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Tuesday, November 1st Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 31 2016, 06:38 PM (14,755 Views)
DCgirl
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While Stefano was an evil bastard and I'm glad he is gone, Hope deserved Chad going after her. She took the law into her own hands and then covered it up. She then kept lying to Chad's face.

I don't trust Andre at all. I still think he is going to screw Chad over.

I wonder if Chad will find out that Rafe and Roman covered up what Hope did??
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PetrovaSalvatore
Nov 1 2016, 03:43 PM
"What gave you the right to shoot my father?" Chad I love ya but are you serious with this question? Can Chad stop saying "my brother Andre" we know he's your brother buddy no need to specify every time you mention him.
I agreed about Andre...but not Chad...nothing gave Hope the right to shoot Stefano.

Even if was Stefano, it was Hope's job to prove it and arrest him, or at least try...She's not even interested in going after Deimos, pathetic little Rafe's lapdog Hope hasn't even really tried.
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DCgirl
Nov 1 2016, 04:22 PM
While Stefano was an evil bastard and I'm glad he is gone, Hope deserved Chad going after her. She took the law into her own hands and then covered it up. She then kept lying to Chad's face.

I don't trust Andre at all. I still think he is going to screw Chad over.

I wonder if Chad will find out that Rafe and Roman covered up what Hope did??
Chad guessed it about Rafe, you could tell that.
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So, the Orpheus wrap up was clearly affected by Drake's absence. The one scene/shot of John and Steve at the town square was definitely filmed prior to the day they filmed the rescue. I'm curious if anybody has paused the scene where John rushes into the warehouse to see if you can tell if that is actually Drake because I'm betting it wasn't. I bet it was a stunt person. Not just because of the timing, but because we didn't see/hear any signs of any actual rescue taking place. Rather, after Orpheus was killed, Steve just stood there watching him slide down the wall. It was all very strange. I'll forgive them because they were obviously hamstrung by Drake's absence, but it's still disappointing that they couldn't even really try to make the rescue bigger. I did like the moments with S&K afterward, but I bet that's pretty much all we see of them until next week.

As for Hopefest 2016, the only part I cared for was her conversation with Chad. As somebody said above, I think it was one of those conversations where they are both right and both wrong. I did feel a little too much like the scriptwriter had simply perused the boards for everything we had already said about the whole thing, but Chad was still making good points. And while I'm tired of Hope in general, KA did well in that scene with trying to explain, but knowing that she never really could.

I also liked Rafe's comments to Chad. Unlike others, I don't think the parallel between what Abby did to Ben and what Hope did to Stefano is THAT far off. No, the situations weren't exactly the same, and Abby's psychosis was certainly more expressly portrayed. But Rafe's point is that Hope snapped that night after being pushed to the brink, similar to where Abby was at when she set Ben on fire. And I don't think that's such a stretch. The difference is that Hope participated in a frame-up and cover-up and her snap was temporary, whereas Abby's was much more permanent. I don't think the similarities mean that Chad has to forgive Hope, but I also don't think it's some horrible crime to provide a little different perspective of things. And, IMO, that's what Rafe did. And, quite frankly, more of these types of conversations where both sides have valid points is not a bad thing.

Andre's involvement in all this stuff was interesting in a "I can't figure out where they are going with him" kind of way.

The Sonny/Paul/Derrick stuff was a nice contrast to the heavier scenes. But Paul needs to decide if he knows Kayla or not. He went from Dr. Brady, to Kayla, to Dr. Brady. And it would have been nice if Sonny would have reacted just a little more given that Kayla is his aunt. But I'm sure he's forgotten that already.
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I don't care if this is when Drake was injured.... Patch beating up Orpheus then just standing there, and standing there, and continuing to stand there looking at Orpheus die while John is supposedly rescuing Patch's wife and Marlena, and never once turning around to see what's going on, was beyond ridiculous. Why not have him run towards them off screen and later worry if Orpheus is still dead. He just looked like a fool.
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I think it was disingenuous for thesoapmag to publish a story and interview with Deidre and all of it pretending there was an actual on screen rescue by John of Marlena. Unless I missed the part where they bothered to inform the reader that it wouldn't be on screen and the reason why.
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Rosebud
Nov 1 2016, 04:43 PM
I think it was disingenuous for thesoapmag to publish a story and interview with Deidre and all of it pretending there was an actual on screen rescue by John of Marlena. Unless I missed the part where they bothered to inform the reader that it wouldn't be on screen and the reason why.
I find most everything about this situation disingenuous.
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Had to mute most the Hope. I tried to listen to the Chad part, but I can't get past that Chad did not grow up with the criminal father and most the time was not speaking to him so I could care less about som recon that he cares.
Why weren't Kayla and Marlena screaming during the coffin scenes? It just made it obvious that they were not inside during most those scenes. I think Derrick should go for Sonny. The show is way too bright again. The docks should have been moodier and the Kiriakas Mansion seemed to be lit by overhead floods instead of table lamps.
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Cortwright
Nov 1 2016, 04:54 PM
Had to mute most the Hope. I tried to listen to the Chad part, but I can't get past that Chad did not grow up with the criminal father and most the time was not speaking to him so I could care less about som recon that he cares.
This.

ETA: The whole murder was stupid and the cover-up was horrible, but the show is emphasizing some barely existent Chad-Stefano relationship over decades of Stefano's atrocities. Hope murdering Stefano was written poorly - both in plot/execution and in character (i.e., it is not like Hope to so callously hide the body, cover it up, and move on with life without excruciating, daily guilt) but the fact is that Stefano had it coming.
Edited by frivolity, Nov 1 2016, 05:11 PM.
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frivolity
Nov 1 2016, 05:05 PM
Cortwright
Nov 1 2016, 04:54 PM
Had to mute most the Hope. I tried to listen to the Chad part, but I can't get past that Chad did not grow up with the criminal father and most the time was not speaking to him so I could care less about som recon that he cares.
This.
actually you didn't see Chad acting all..."you killed my beloved father"

he looked for a reason she killed him and gave her plenty of space to explain why she killed him...He didn't act in anyway like his father was a good man
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Thank you JCP.

I watched again, it sure looked like Drake came in the door with S.N. He then ran fast to the coffins. The writers still don't know Steve, real Steve would have let O. go and rushed to the coffins with John to get the women free.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Nov 1 2016, 03:54 PM
Seriously it took them 1 hour to set fire to those coffins and why did Marlena and Kayla stop screaming?

I had to remember that they were on in every scene. lol
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Rafe confronting Chad about all the terrible things Stefano did to him and his family...
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bygnedys
Nov 1 2016, 05:11 PM
I watched again, it sure looked like Drake came in the door with S.N. He then ran fast to the coffins. The writers still don't know Steve, real Steve would have let O. go and rushed to the coffins with John to get the women free.
I really think the original plan was Orpheus got away. Maybe after Steve scuffled with him, he was supposed to run after John to the women.
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esp13
Nov 1 2016, 04:30 PM
So, the Orpheus wrap up was clearly affected by Drake's absence. The one scene/shot of John and Steve at the town square was definitely filmed prior to the day they filmed the rescue. I'm curious if anybody has paused the scene where John rushes into the warehouse to see if you can tell if that is actually Drake because I'm betting it wasn't. I bet it was a stunt person. Not just because of the timing, but because we didn't see/hear any signs of any actual rescue taking place. Rather, after Orpheus was killed, Steve just stood there watching him slide down the wall. It was all very strange. I'll forgive them because they were obviously hamstrung by Drake's absence, but it's still disappointing that they couldn't even really try to make the rescue bigger. I did like the moments with S&K afterward, but I bet that's pretty much all we see of them until next week.

As for Hopefest 2016, the only part I cared for was her conversation with Chad. As somebody said above, I think it was one of those conversations where they are both right and both wrong. I did feel a little too much like the scriptwriter had simply perused the boards for everything we had already said about the whole thing, but Chad was still making good points. And while I'm tired of Hope in general, KA did well in that scene with trying to explain, but knowing that she never really could.

I also liked Rafe's comments to Chad. Unlike others, I don't think the parallel between what Abby did to Ben and what Hope did to Stefano is THAT far off. No, the situations weren't exactly the same, and Abby's psychosis was certainly more expressly portrayed. But Rafe's point is that Hope snapped that night after being pushed to the brink, similar to where Abby was at when she set Ben on fire. And I don't think that's such a stretch. The difference is that Hope participated in a frame-up and cover-up and her snap was temporary, whereas Abby's was much more permanent. I don't think the similarities mean that Chad has to forgive Hope, but I also don't think it's some horrible crime to provide a little different perspective of things. And, IMO, that's what Rafe did. And, quite frankly, more of these types of conversations where both sides have valid points is not a bad thing.

Andre's involvement in all this stuff was interesting in a "I can't figure out where they are going with him" kind of way.

The Sonny/Paul/Derrick stuff was a nice contrast to the heavier scenes. But Paul needs to decide if he knows Kayla or not. He went from Dr. Brady, to Kayla, to Dr. Brady. And it would have been nice if Sonny would have reacted just a little more given that Kayla is his aunt. But I'm sure he's forgotten that already.
I agree.

Today's ep was good...one the best in a long while actually, but it was also a bit frustrating. It had potential to have been a really GREAT episode if they hadn't been for Drake's absence in the final scene with Orpheus (not their fault, I know) and- more importantly--if any of these SL's had been properly developed from the beginning so that I truly care when this happened (rather than just hitting plot points all along). And...there was something I couldn't quite put my finger on....it felt...choppy? Like maybe there were missing scenes or something. Like Friday's ep, something felt a bit off.

Marlena's screaming was annoying and distracting, but that scene where they were passed out in the coffins was creepy & chilling. They should have done that scene twice & done away with that ridiculous caterwauling.

For once I really enjoyed the PaulSon/Derrick scene. Personally, I could have done without the flashbacks, but what would a PaulSon scene be without flashbacks. Without flashbacks there wouldn't be a PaulSon story. (so it's their usual crutch). The fact that this couple needs a crutch (Flashbacks; a 3rd wheel, etc). But I digress. I actually enjoyed this scene. If they're not gonna make me happy & bring Will back then I'd rather see Paul with Derrick. I actually like their scenes. #TeamPaulDer

LOVED the Hope/Chad scene! Best part of the show. I even kinda liked the Justin & Hope scene, but again I had this feeling I was missing something. Like maybe something got edited out?. And Chad confronting Salem's crooked cops. LOVED that. God, I'd love to see Rafe & Roman fry.
Edited by HoritaFan, Nov 1 2016, 05:45 PM.
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I honestly believe they could have fixed that scene if they wanted to. Honestly, the biggest part of the story... John rescuing Marlena... And nothing. At least get a body double in there. Really makes me nervous about them just writing John in and out of the room for the next couple of months. I would have much rather have John kidnapped by Orpheus than this. This is nothing against Drake bc I know accidents happen and I'm glad he is doing ok, but this is about the characters and disappointment in the writers on being creative enough to fill in characters that are crucial to a storyline in order to make the audience happy.
Edited by lilparisbabe, Nov 1 2016, 05:45 PM.
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lysie


I wish Justin would decide that it's worth is law career to just tell on Roman and Rafe.
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I like Chad better than Rafe, but "What have I ever done to you?" Chad got him thrown off the Salem PD. I mean it was more like a favor to the viewers when he did that, but THAT is what he did to Rafe. This fake, manufactured bromance is just dumb. Aside from the fact that they haven't even interacted since last fall.
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So not here for Stefano being made out to be some kind of martyr! Doesn't everybody know that Stefano and Andre were the ones behind the plans for Aiden to murder Hope for no apparent reason that was ever explained. Why is everybody surprised that Hope would be pushed beyond her limits after being goaded and laughed at by that evil maniac who spent his life destroying hers. Chad needs to take a seat , he had no love lost for his father when he was alive so all these fake sentiments now sound fake.
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I do think that Chad makes Rafe more likable...sort of. Okay, maybe not likable...he just has a nice chemistry with him. I guess.
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