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Tuesday, November 1st Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 31 2016, 06:38 PM (14,753 Views)
laurondo
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The Derrick, Paul and Sonny scenes are so cringeworthy. That time off did Freddie no favors, jeez.
Edited by laurondo, Nov 1 2016, 06:05 PM.
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Kinay
Nov 1 2016, 06:03 PM
funone
Nov 1 2016, 06:00 PM
Kinay
Nov 1 2016, 05:58 PM
Exactly Rafe! Hope was a victim of Stefano just like Abbigail was a victim of Ben. Hope shooting this demented man was no worse than Abbigail setting Ben on fire.
Dude was in a wheel chair and was no physical threat to her. I don't agree.
Abbigail seduced Ben in a bed and tied him up to set him on fire . He was no threat to her and the time and Chad covered that up too.
She seduced him, and tied him up it was an effort to detain him. When she set on fire that's when it went to far and she snapped. But at no point during Hope's confrontation with Stefano was he ever a physical threat to her. She snapped and shot him after he goaded her.
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lysie
Nov 1 2016, 06:04 PM
Kinay
Nov 1 2016, 06:03 PM
funone
Nov 1 2016, 06:00 PM

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Abbigail seduced Ben in a bed and tied him up to set him on fire . He was no threat to her and the time and Chad covered that up too.
She did that BECAUSE he was a threat to her and the baby. The whole reason he was there was to be a threat to her. That was not the case at all with Stefano.
I'm on record as saying I didn't think the comparison that Rafe was trying to make was that big of a stretch, but even I agree that trying to compare the threat levels is ridiculous. Not to mention that Abby wasn't a cop.
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Kinay
Nov 1 2016, 06:03 PM
funone
Nov 1 2016, 06:00 PM
Kinay
Nov 1 2016, 05:58 PM
Exactly Rafe! Hope was a victim of Stefano just like Abbigail was a victim of Ben. Hope shooting this demented man was no worse than Abbigail setting Ben on fire.
Dude was in a wheel chair and was no physical threat to her. I don't agree.
Abbigail seduced Ben in a bed and tied him up to set him on fire . He was no threat to her and the time and Chad covered that up too.
Ben was no threat to her? lol were you watching the same episodes... because I disagree.
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esp13
Nov 1 2016, 06:07 PM
lysie
Nov 1 2016, 06:04 PM
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Nov 1 2016, 06:03 PM

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She did that BECAUSE he was a threat to her and the baby. The whole reason he was there was to be a threat to her. That was not the case at all with Stefano.
I'm on record as saying I didn't think the comparison that Rafe was trying to make was that big of a stretch, but even I agree that trying to compare the threat levels is ridiculous. Not to mention that Abby wasn't a cop.
Agreed on all counts.
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funone
Nov 1 2016, 05:58 PM
Lovejm
Nov 1 2016, 05:55 PM
Also paul is stepson of the year. Love him. He cares about Marlena.
Better than Brady whom she raised.
Brady who IS a freaking Kiriakis, as the show loves to remind us every three seconds, and who therefore wouldn't have to take the extra step of asking his ex to check with the Kiriakis employees. (I know it's been said already but it bears repeating.)

Dena is partial to Brady. Can she please, please notice how terrible he looks in the slot the show currently has him in and fix it?

Lol, though, that none of Steve/John/Paul thought Brady was the guy to call for help as the only mother he ever knew burned to death...
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laurondo
Nov 1 2016, 06:05 PM
The Derrick, Paul and Sonny scenes are so cringeworthy. That time off did Freddie no favors, jeez.
why do I think Derrick might try to play matchmaker??
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funone
Nov 1 2016, 06:06 PM
Kinay
Nov 1 2016, 06:03 PM
funone
Nov 1 2016, 06:00 PM

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Abbigail seduced Ben in a bed and tied him up to set him on fire . He was no threat to her and the time and Chad covered that up too.
She seduced him, and tied him up it was an effort to detain him. When she set on fire that's when it went to far and she snapped. But at no point during Hope's confrontation with Stefano was he ever a physical threat to her. She snapped and shot him after he goaded her.
and as that might be defendable...her actions afterwards are not!

Abby went crackers...(sorry I know that's not PC)
Edited by sonnyfan, Nov 1 2016, 06:20 PM.
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Cimz
Nov 1 2016, 06:14 PM
funone
Nov 1 2016, 05:58 PM
Lovejm
Nov 1 2016, 05:55 PM
Also paul is stepson of the year. Love him. He cares about Marlena.
Better than Brady whom she raised.
Brady who IS a freaking Kiriakis, as the show loves to remind us every three seconds, and who therefore wouldn't have to take the extra step of asking his ex to check with the Kiriakis employees. (I know it's been said already but it bears repeating.)

Dena is partial to Brady. Can she please, please notice how terrible he looks in the slot the show currently has him in and fix it?

Lol, though, that none of Steve/John/Paul thought Brady was the guy to call for help as the only mother he ever knew burned to death...
The kicker is Dena wrote Brady really good with them the last run before they left in 09.
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esp13
Nov 1 2016, 05:46 PM
Rosebud
Nov 1 2016, 05:19 PM
Rafe confronting Chad about all the terrible things Stefano did to him and his family...
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I'm pretty sure Stefano had Rafe kidnapped and replaced by an imposter which directly affected his wife and stepkids at the time, i.e. his family. Just because it wasn't as bad as things he has done to other people doesn't make it nothing, or non-existent.
I never said that. And I know all that. Rafe is still a wannabe and I just do not care about anything Stefano did to him.
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sonnyfan
Nov 1 2016, 06:20 PM
funone
Nov 1 2016, 06:06 PM
Kinay
Nov 1 2016, 06:03 PM

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She seduced him, and tied him up it was an effort to detain him. When she set on fire that's when it went to far and she snapped. But at no point during Hope's confrontation with Stefano was he ever a physical threat to her. She snapped and shot him after he goaded her.
and as that might be defendable...her actions afterwards are not!

Abby went crackers...(sorry I know that's not PC)
You are referring to Hope's behavior afterwards right?
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lysie
Nov 1 2016, 06:04 PM
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Nov 1 2016, 06:03 PM
funone
Nov 1 2016, 06:00 PM

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Abbigail seduced Ben in a bed and tied him up to set him on fire . He was no threat to her and the time and Chad covered that up too.
She did that BECAUSE he was a threat to her and the baby. The whole reason he was there was to be a threat to her. That was not the case at all with Stefano.
I wouldn't say Stefano wasn't a threat to Hope. He was a threat to her for most of her life! She had just gone through trauma and he pushed her to her limits. He got what he deserved.
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sonnyfan
Nov 1 2016, 06:18 PM
laurondo
Nov 1 2016, 06:05 PM
The Derrick, Paul and Sonny scenes are so cringeworthy. That time off did Freddie no favors, jeez.
why do I think Derrick might try to play matchmaker??
Oh hey, he'd be useful!
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Kinay
Nov 1 2016, 06:21 PM
lysie
Nov 1 2016, 06:04 PM
Kinay
Nov 1 2016, 06:03 PM

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She did that BECAUSE he was a threat to her and the baby. The whole reason he was there was to be a threat to her. That was not the case at all with Stefano.
I wouldn't say Stefano wasn't a threat to Hope. He was a threat to her for most of her life! She had just gone through trauma and he pushed her to her limits. He got what he deserved.
Again, he was not a threat to her at the moment she was pointing a gun at him.
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lysie
Nov 1 2016, 06:09 PM
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Nov 1 2016, 06:07 PM
lysie
Nov 1 2016, 06:04 PM

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I'm on record as saying I didn't think the comparison that Rafe was trying to make was that big of a stretch, but even I agree that trying to compare the threat levels is ridiculous. Not to mention that Abby wasn't a cop.
Agreed on all counts.
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Then you arrest him! You're a cop that's your job. Rafe - Of course, that's your job. You find proof but what if you're emotionally spent. What if you were pushed to the breaking point. Chad - You don't take matters into your own hands Rafe


This is the big truth...

You don't take the law in your own hands, you are a cop, you've sworn to uphold the law...and everytime Bo stepped outside of it, Abe or even Roman would let him know.

And, BTW, why were Hope and Rafe getting citations for what happened concerning the criminals??

Patch Black, Andre/Chad/Lucas & Adrienne, & JJ were responsible for the take down. Rafe & Hope were too tied up in the cover up to care.
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Nov 1 2016, 06:21 PM
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Nov 1 2016, 06:04 PM
Kinay
Nov 1 2016, 06:03 PM

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She did that BECAUSE he was a threat to her and the baby. The whole reason he was there was to be a threat to her. That was not the case at all with Stefano.
I wouldn't say Stefano wasn't a threat to Hope. He was a threat to her for most of her life! She had just gone through trauma and he pushed her to her limits. He got what he deserved.
Whatever he did to her in the past doesn't mean she had a right to shoot him.

Like, she wouldn't go to court and say, "He harassed me my entire life, he deserved it!" Because that doesn't work lol
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Nov 1 2016, 06:21 PM
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Nov 1 2016, 06:20 PM
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Nov 1 2016, 06:06 PM

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and as that might be defendable...her actions afterwards are not!

Abby went crackers...(sorry I know that's not PC)
You are referring to Hope's behavior afterwards right?
right, her acting like she did nothing wrong, covering it up, framing Andre, etc.
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Kinay
Nov 1 2016, 06:21 PM
lysie
Nov 1 2016, 06:04 PM
Kinay
Nov 1 2016, 06:03 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
She did that BECAUSE he was a threat to her and the baby. The whole reason he was there was to be a threat to her. That was not the case at all with Stefano.
I wouldn't say Stefano wasn't a threat to Hope. He was a threat to her for most of her life! She had just gone through trauma and he pushed her to her limits. He got what he deserved.
Right...but we were talking about whether he was a physical threat to her at the time, and he wasn't.
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Rosebud
Nov 1 2016, 06:21 PM
esp13
Nov 1 2016, 05:46 PM
Rosebud
Nov 1 2016, 05:19 PM
Rafe confronting Chad about all the terrible things Stefano did to him and his family...
Posted Image
I'm pretty sure Stefano had Rafe kidnapped and replaced by an imposter which directly affected his wife and stepkids at the time, i.e. his family. Just because it wasn't as bad as things he has done to other people doesn't make it nothing, or non-existent.
I never said that. And I know all that. Rafe is still a wannabe and I just do not care about anything Stefano did to him.
It doesn't matter if you care about what happened to Rafe or not, it still happened and it's the reason he doesn't care that the monster is dead!
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laurondo
Nov 1 2016, 06:28 PM
Kinay
Nov 1 2016, 06:21 PM
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Nov 1 2016, 06:04 PM

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I wouldn't say Stefano wasn't a threat to Hope. He was a threat to her for most of her life! She had just gone through trauma and he pushed her to her limits. He got what he deserved.
Whatever he did to her in the past doesn't mean she had a right to shoot him.

Like, she wouldn't go to court and say, "He harassed me my entire life, he deserved it!" Because that doesn't work lol
and if she had the right to shoot, him...

her love had died
"Aiden" tried to kill her
Stefano goated her
Stefano laughed at her
Made fun of her
Made snide comments about Bo...even if pulling the trigger is justified

her next steps and steps ever since are just NOT, IMO.
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