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Tuesday, November 1st Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 31 2016, 06:38 PM (14,750 Views)
sonnyfan
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Nanalora
Nov 1 2016, 07:17 PM
HoritaFan
Nov 1 2016, 07:08 PM
laurondo
Nov 1 2016, 06:05 PM
The Derrick, Paul and Sonny scenes are so cringeworthy. That time off did Freddie no favors, jeez.
Without Will, the flaws and weaknesses of the Sonny character & the forced pairing of PaulSon are becoming glaringly obvious. Both are so full of holes there's almost nothing there. I'd rather Sonny go back to Paris & they pair up Paul & Derrick ( tho' they'd have to do some work on Derrick)
I actually have wanted Paul and Sonny together from the first time Paul showed up. I wish the writers knew how to write for them better. I think Derrick may be there to push them together. I don't think he will be there long.
I think he might end up playing matchmaker

What I didn't like about the PaulSon/Derrick scenes...

the football game, it seemed like they weren't familiar with each others calls about the game...they needed more practice on those lines...

I mean all watching should see the plays, so they're reaction was strange.

I think the PaulSon odd around each other, is intentional, JMO

I also didn't like Steve's reaction in the situation, ok, attack Orpheus, but when O's down don't stand there and watch...go help!!
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laurondo
Nov 1 2016, 07:39 PM
HoritaFan
Nov 1 2016, 07:08 PM
laurondo
Nov 1 2016, 06:05 PM
The Derrick, Paul and Sonny scenes are so cringeworthy. That time off did Freddie no favors, jeez.
Without Will, the flaws and weaknesses of the Sonny character & the forced pairing of PaulSon are becoming glaringly obvious. Both are so full of holes there's almost nothing there. I'd rather Sonny go back to Paris & they pair up Paul & Derrick ( tho' they'd have to do some work on Derrick)
I disagree that they're a forced pairing. I also think Freddie was fine without having Will (Chandler or Guy) around. I actually ended up preferring him without having Will around, lol. I just think the time off that Freddie took made him really... out of practice.

I dislike Derrick so much I would hate him with Paul.
I don't dislike Derrick and Will wasn't any good after the actor was replaced the last time, IMO
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laurondo
Nov 1 2016, 06:05 PM
The Derrick, Paul and Sonny scenes are so cringeworthy. That time off did Freddie no favors, jeez.
Yes, it was bad.
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KweenBoda
Nov 1 2016, 09:55 PM
Heroines don't murder a old man then cover it up with help from the police department. She was smug at times afterwards. I do not buy her PTSD BS...Rafe is a corrupt POS but in the end she chose to go along with it all. Even if Stefano was alive..she could never be redeemed for me..and this ROPE crap makes me hate her and Rafe even more.
And where Hope is feeling remorse and responsibility
And Roman is realizing the severity of this
Rafe seems perfectly fine and is only upset it came out and people like Chad don't act like, that nasty Stefano, he deserved it.

I mean Chad was asked what she said, and he said something like nothing that can be used, it was bull, she told him everything of the crime...so why did he do that...
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Thank you JCP.

The trouble with joining John to help free the ladies is the show was not filming any scenes to show John free them, so Steve couldn't be shown running over to help. Nothing was going to be shown.Knowing Orpheus, Steve probably decided if he didn't fight him and the guy helping him that O. might have found a way to leave the four of them in building to burn up. It would have been nice to show Steve yelling for Kayla and at least run across the room like John did. It might have been some of the cut scenes that S. and MBE were handed revised scripts of a few months ago.
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Kinay
Nov 1 2016, 06:30 PM
Rosebud
Nov 1 2016, 06:21 PM
esp13
Nov 1 2016, 05:46 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephim and his family...
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I never said that. And I know all that. Rafe is still a wannabe and I just do not care about anything Stefano did to him.
It doesn't matter if you care about what happened to Rafe or not, it still happened and it's the reason he doesn't care that the monster is dead!
Oh for Christ sake, I wasn't arguing that it never happened. I was voicing my own opinion that Rafe is pointless as a foe of Stefano's and meaningless to me in the grand view of Stefano DiMera's history on the show.
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Tammy
Nov 1 2016, 06:47 PM
I am just happy I didn't have to see that friggin flashback of Hope shooting Stefano again! :thumbsup:
I thought for sure they were going to show one when Hope started to tell Chad what happened. What a relief.
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I didn't pay close attention to the Andre/Hope scene but what I gathered was that he agreed to not implicate Faux and Rafe if Hope pleads guilty? Why would he do that? He has proof of all three committing a crime, right?
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Thank you JCP.

He also illegally obtained it.
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bygnedys
Nov 1 2016, 10:48 PM
He also illegally obtained it.
Did he illegally obtain it - I thought Aiden illegally taped it and handed it on to him.

Surely he can come forward as a concerned citizen / next of kin with new evidence that's been handed to him particularly if it deals with widespread police corruption.

You'd be a very brave police force to arrest someone for illegally obtained recordings when the recording relates to police corruption.
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Just saw the episode. Gosh this whole Hope/Rafe thing is such an epic fail. Yeah, I'm a broken record, but it is really weird to see Hope play-acting lovey-dovey with someone like Rafe after decades with Bo. It just rings forced and phony - and is not helped by GG's Frankensteinian acting.

Hope would have done so much better as a character on her own, taking care of her family as the fierce new up-and-coming matriarch of the Horton clan.

Oh, well ... in an alternate writing universe ... where Billie and Carly also did not exist ... :D
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When Hope told Chad she cared about him I was like "really? REALLY?!" But in the end when Chad grabbed her hands, that was sweet.
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frivolity
Nov 1 2016, 11:21 PM
Just saw the episode. Gosh this whole Hope/Rafe thing is such an epic fail. Yeah, I'm a broken record, but it is really weird to see Hope play-acting lovey-dovey with someone like Rafe after decades with Bo. It just rings forced and phony - and is not helped by GG's Frankensteinian acting.

Hope would have done so much better as a character on her own, taking care of her family as the fierce new up-and-coming matriarch of the Horton clan.

Oh, well ... in an alternate writing universe ... where Billie and Carly also did not exist ... :D
What did you think of the Chope scenes?
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funone
Nov 1 2016, 11:30 PM
When Hope told Chad she cared about him I was like "really? REALLY?!" But in the end when Chad grabbed her hands, that was sweet.
I think she does care for Chad because she knows he's a good guy and she hurt him. I did like Chad grabbing her hands as well. BF and KA did a good job in those scenes.
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concerned
Nov 1 2016, 10:51 PM
bygnedys
Nov 1 2016, 10:48 PM
He also illegally obtained it.
Did he illegally obtain it - I thought Aiden illegally taped it and handed it on to him.

Surely he can come forward as a concerned citizen / next of kin with new evidence that's been handed to him particularly if it deals with widespread police corruption.

You'd be a very brave police force to arrest someone for illegally obtained recordings when the recording relates to police corruption.
no he stole the tape from Aiden's room and made copies of it.
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funone
Nov 1 2016, 11:30 PM
When Hope told Chad she cared about him I was like "really? REALLY?!" But in the end when Chad grabbed her hands, that was sweet.
it shows Chad as the better man...

What is funny is Chad made a comment to Roman, Justin, & Rafe...about them having "better " families... Roman didn't react, Justin didn't react, and Rafe rolled his eyes...what a douche bag.
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KweenBoda
Nov 1 2016, 09:55 PM
Heroines don't murder a old man then cover it up with help from the police department. She was smug at times afterwards. I do not buy her PTSD BS...Rafe is a corrupt POS but in the end she chose to go along with it all. Even if Stefano was alive..she could never be redeemed for me..and this ROPE crap makes me hate her and Rafe even more.
The murder itself isn't my issue. Stefano did nothing in all those years but hurt, torment, kidnap, brainwash, and otherwise torture (literally) John, Hope, Steve, and their families. He caused a lot of suffering, and proof was never evident, so he never paid for it. When you treat people like that, sooner or later, someone you hurt is going to reach the end of their rope, and that's how it is.

I understood why it happened. I just hate how she behaved afterward. She should've come forward and taken whatever consequences there were to take, instead of hiding the body and helping frame Andre. She crossed a line there that to me was harder to deal with than the one she crossed when she killed Stefano.
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I think what would have been a better story: Hope kills Stefano but then she passes out. Rafe arrives and decides to get rid of the body. Hope wakes up at the hospital and has no memory of the incident. Rafe doesn't tell her what she did. Then Rafe frames Andre. Hope's memories of that night slowly come back and she wants to confess but Rafe convinces her not to.
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Hugo


Good episode!

My favorite part was Paul, Sonny, Derrick, it's nice to see some fun scenes like that for PaulSon, and not always the same sad/angsty stuff. I wish they showed Sonny with Arianna today, it's good that they talk about that relationship a little bit but I would love to see it too. Maybe soon they'll have scenes together.

Billy Flynn was great today, I love the part with Hope/Chad at the station but then it was ruined by Rafe when he threw Abby/Ben to Chad's face. I hate Rafe so much.

The Orpheus stuff was a little disappointing but I'll give the show a pass because Drake was sick and they couldn't really do it the way they wanted.
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I think my favorite part is how Paul was all super worried for his stepmother and his dad going off to rescue his stepmother and is hanging out at the house where Brady lives and never once thinks that maybe he should ask after Brady or try to inform Brady of their stepmother's kidnapping/rescue.
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