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Thursday, November 3rd Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Nov 2 2016, 08:53 PM (18,405 Views)
KweenBoda
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Waiting on another announcement from KC about saving the show. And this idiotic baby crap fucking storyline is a big fuck you to us Daniel haters.
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sonnyfan
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sonnyfan
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best part of today...Adrienne talking about missing her brother Jack...best part, hands down, IMO.
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laurondo
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I came back from watching Thursday night TV shows to read that we'll be seeing Daniel off/on for months.

Why.
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concerned
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lysie
Nov 3 2016, 09:46 PM
KLK
Nov 3 2016, 01:36 PM
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Nov 3 2016, 01:30 PM
AZ and DH holding hands.

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Oh please! They were posed that way, as was BB on the other side reaching out his arm/hand. :rolleyes:

You don't pose people holding hands.

Brandon and what's her name look like they're bracing themselves to stay upright. They don't look posed either. Those aren't even poses.
But kudos to who ever thought up that pose for fauxman.
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HollyGolightly
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lysie
Nov 3 2016, 10:01 PM
IDK anything about AZ and Dena being friends but AZ did say this about Dena during the reset in 2011. This was interesting at the time, because we were hearing a lot about how happy the cast was to have Dena gone. (this was to DR at the HTS sneak peak)

Part of the show reinventing itself was the firing of headwriter Dena Higley. Zucker tells us she always hates to see someone be fired, and she was particularly sad about Higley. “She wrote my character really well. I got spoiled. I appreciate that because for the first 8 years I was on the show, I was written as either comic relief or as a wedge between somebody. She gave Nicole her own story, and I am very grateful for that.”


Meanwhile, I think Dena and Judi Evans might be friends. One of Dena's daughters has a pic of herself with the two of them with the caption "Some of my favorite people."
Unfortunately, I have to agree with Arianne Zucker about Dena writing her character(Nicole) really well.
As for Dena & Judi Evans(Adrienne) being friends...if it means we'll see more of her and most importantly
more of Justin, Lucas and Jennifer, I'm all for it! These characters have been ignored long enough!
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4ever DAYS
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HollyGolightly
Nov 4 2016, 12:11 AM
lysie
Nov 3 2016, 10:01 PM
IDK anything about AZ and Dena being friends but AZ did say this about Dena during the reset in 2011. This was interesting at the time, because we were hearing a lot about how happy the cast was to have Dena gone. (this was to DR at the HTS sneak peak)

Part of the show reinventing itself was the firing of headwriter Dena Higley. Zucker tells us she always hates to see someone be fired, and she was particularly sad about Higley. “She wrote my character really well. I got spoiled. I appreciate that because for the first 8 years I was on the show, I was written as either comic relief or as a wedge between somebody. She gave Nicole her own story, and I am very grateful for that.”


Meanwhile, I think Dena and Judi Evans might be friends. One of Dena's daughters has a pic of herself with the two of them with the caption "Some of my favorite people."
Unfortunately, I have to agree with Arianne Zucker about Dena writing her character(Nicole) really well.
As for Dena & Judi Evans(Adrienne) being friends...if it means we'll see more of her and most importantly
more of Justin, Lucas and Jennifer, I'm all for it! These characters have been ignored long enough!
On the subject of Judi Evans...Yeah, but in the long run we'll see less of Adrienne...Less hair and eventually lifeless if cancer claims her life!

Related question: Is Dena the creator/a fan of Bonnie Lockhart? If so, there's a strong possibility for the death of Adrienne and the return of Bonnie. My two cents: I'd like to see a storyline with both characters!!
Edited by 4ever DAYS, Nov 4 2016, 12:23 AM.
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Ophelia
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Well, that sucked mad monkey ass and Photobucket seems to be down so I can't bust out the rage icons.

Shut up, Theresa. Leave already.
Shut up, Deimos. You barely know Nicole.
Shut up, Maggie. Just shut up.

I just can't believe that they're going with this story. We all knew it was probably going to happen, but still. I'm still hopeful that the "random drunk" was Eric and we're going to get another twist.

I say that with a caveat -- I have trouble believing that, even drunk, Eric Brady the former priest would just start jerking off in a hospital and do a sperm swap. However, we do know of another person that could have some of his swimmers on ice. What about Kristen? She's a woman with a contingency plan and who really believes she's dead. When she drugged Eric, she could have grabbed a few tadpoles in case of emergency. I would totally accept Kristen is pulling the strings behind all of this if it fixes this mess.

Seriously, I'll accept that:
1. Kristen wants revenge on the Bradys.
2. She sees what state Eric is in and decides he's the most vulnerable. She starts messing with him, spikes his drinks.
3. NYE. Some of us commented that Eric seemed way more drunk than his tolerance/number of drinks should have indicated. So let's go with "Kristen spikes his drink and tampers with his car."
4. Now she's not actually a wizard so she couldn't have predicted the magnitude of the car wreck, but she could have helped set any number of players into motion. Maybe she was aiming for Theresa, not Brady.
5. Chaos ensues, monkey's paw, Eric goes to jail, monkey's paw, monkey's paw.

Which leads us to Chloe and the "miracle" baby. Dan and Nicole at the hospital with an unruly drunk in the next room. Eric follows Dan and Nicole, Kristen follows Eric. Kristen replaces Dan's sample with the one of Eric's she took during the rape and sits back to see what happens.

Motives? Nicole tried to run Kristen off the road and was a general thorn in her side. Many many motives with the Bradys -- Eric is just the most convenient pawn. Chloe? No beef there that I remember. Now if Broe were together, I could see her setting up a scenario in which there is "proof" that Chloe cheated on Brady with his brother. Frankly, Kristen has enough grudges with the Bradys for all of it.

Why I would be okay with it -- some of the culpability for Dan's death is removed from Eric. Some, not all. An Ericole baby would force Nicole and Eric to be civil with each other (or Nicole civil to him) and maybe start to reconnect. Kristen would be back, but as a less crazy, more strategic villain in her father's image. Deimos would be pissed at everyone, even though he had zero role in it, and I wouldn't hate a Deimos-led Kiriakis vs. Dimera battle. (On paper, at least.)

None of this will happen. We'll get Daniel Jonas Walker/Daniel Jr. and it will suck so hard because his name will NEVER go away.

If any of you need me, I'll be back in my happy place -- Eric and Nicole are hallucinating and still in the Furnace of Love-land.
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tiff5555


Today's episode....well it was a doozy for me, on Chloe's part! She is having Nicole's kid.... :blah:
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DJsMommy
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Nov 3 2016, 09:19 PM
Off topic, Jason Brooks is on How to Get Away with Murder tonight and looks really good.
Don't even get me started on how much I love that man! :wub: His Peter & Nicole are like my holy grail pairing. I'll never give up the dream!


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The Scorpion
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Right now, when everything sucks on the show I just want to tell about an amazing fan video with the song Pillowtalk. Eric and Jennifer my goodness, I could easily get interested in them together only after having looked at the video :) just saying.
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DJsMommy
Nov 4 2016, 03:56 AM
camera shy
Nov 3 2016, 09:19 PM
Off topic, Jason Brooks is on How to Get Away with Murder tonight and looks really good.
Don't even get me started on how much I love that man! :wub: His Peter & Nicole are like my holy grail pairing. I'll never give up the dream!



I personally found Peter and Jennifer sexy as hell back in the day ;)
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KLK
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lysie
Nov 3 2016, 10:01 PM
IDK anything about AZ and Dena being friends but AZ did say this about Dena during the reset in 2011. This was interesting at the time, because we were hearing a lot about how happy the cast was to have Dena gone. (this was to DR at the HTS sneak peak)

Part of the show reinventing itself was the firing of headwriter Dena Higley. Zucker tells us she always hates to see someone be fired, and she was particularly sad about Higley. “She wrote my character really well. I got spoiled. I appreciate that because for the first 8 years I was on the show, I was written as either comic relief or as a wedge between somebody. She gave Nicole her own story, and I am very grateful for that.”


Meanwhile, I think Dena and Judi Evans might be friends. One of Dena's daughters has a pic of herself with the two of them with the caption "Some of my favorite people."
I've seen nothing to suggest they're friends outside of work, but if they are I don't think it reflects negatively on Ari as has been implied several times in this thread. Every writer has their favorites that they like to write for, I don't think that gives those actors the power to dictate their storylines. Several actors have benefitted from the change from Josh to Dena......JE, BD, WK, MR, JR to name some, I won't even include Ari in that list because I don't feel she has gained much as of yet. Josh had his "pets" and those actors dominated the show for months while he was in control. I'm glad that so far Dena/Ryan have a much more balanced show.

Dena wrote some great stuff for Ari/Nicole in the baby switch storyline, so I can see Ari speaking about her during that time in a positive way.
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I'm pretty sure someone on the writing team reads this board, then structures all of the stories based on our most hated worst case scenarios.
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HollyGolightly
Nov 4 2016, 12:11 AM
lysie
Nov 3 2016, 10:01 PM
IDK anything about AZ and Dena being friends but AZ did say this about Dena during the reset in 2011. This was interesting at the time, because we were hearing a lot about how happy the cast was to have Dena gone. (this was to DR at the HTS sneak peak)

Part of the show reinventing itself was the firing of headwriter Dena Higley. Zucker tells us she always hates to see someone be fired, and she was particularly sad about Higley. “She wrote my character really well. I got spoiled. I appreciate that because for the first 8 years I was on the show, I was written as either comic relief or as a wedge between somebody. She gave Nicole her own story, and I am very grateful for that.”


Meanwhile, I think Dena and Judi Evans might be friends. One of Dena's daughters has a pic of herself with the two of them with the caption "Some of my favorite people."
Unfortunately, I have to agree with Arianne Zucker about Dena writing her character(Nicole) really well.
As for Dena & Judi Evans(Adrienne) being friends...if it means we'll see more of her and most importantly
more of Justin, Lucas and Jennifer, I'm all for it! These characters have been ignored long enough!
Yeah. Everything AZ said there is true. That baby switch storyline was the major switch from Nicole as foil to Nicole as protagonist. She had her fans and she had her motivations prior to it, but that story was what made rooting for her mainstream. It's when I turned from hating Nicole to cheering her on, as far as that goes.

If AZ pushed for the current story, her taste is terrible and her wishes should have been ignored. But the quotes that have been brought up in this thread... that she loves her boyfriend and appreciated her character's signature story... aren't proof positive that she likes the current stuff, let alone authored it.

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lysie


KLK
Nov 4 2016, 06:51 AM
lysie
Nov 3 2016, 10:01 PM
IDK anything about AZ and Dena being friends but AZ did say this about Dena during the reset in 2011. This was interesting at the time, because we were hearing a lot about how happy the cast was to have Dena gone. (this was to DR at the HTS sneak peak)

Part of the show reinventing itself was the firing of headwriter Dena Higley. Zucker tells us she always hates to see someone be fired, and she was particularly sad about Higley. “She wrote my character really well. I got spoiled. I appreciate that because for the first 8 years I was on the show, I was written as either comic relief or as a wedge between somebody. She gave Nicole her own story, and I am very grateful for that.”


Meanwhile, I think Dena and Judi Evans might be friends. One of Dena's daughters has a pic of herself with the two of them with the caption "Some of my favorite people."
I've seen nothing to suggest they're friends outside of work, but if they are I don't think it reflects negatively on Ari as has been implied several times in this thread. Every writer has their favorites that they like to write for, I don't think that gives those actors the power to dictate their storylines. Several actors have benefitted from the change from Josh to Dena......JE, BD, WK, MR, JR to name some, I won't even include Ari in that list because I don't feel she has gained much as of yet. Josh had his "pets" and those actors dominated the show for months while he was in control. I'm glad that so far Dena/Ryan have a much more balanced show.

Dena wrote some great stuff for Ari/Nicole in the baby switch storyline, so I can see Ari speaking about her during that time in a positive way.
Idk if they're friends or not but for me it would reflect negatively on her for a couple of reasons. One, because Dena is a whackadoo and two, because every writer has their favorites but if their favorite also happens to be their friend, that's an issue. But no. Them holding hands in that pic isn't a sign that they're BFFs. It is a sign that they're friendly though, which is more than I'd like...because Dena is a whackadoo.

The stuff about thinking AZ has influenced story is separate and doesn't have much to do with Dena. I think there's probably some truth to that, but I can't imagine it having been the case here.
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I figured that Daniel would be the father of Nicole's baby. I'm glad that Nicole will be getting her child, at some point, I didn't hate Daniel as much as everyone else on here, and while I was watching, I did see the love between Nicole and Daniel. I never watched the great love story between Nicole and Eric, which I'm sure was great. But, as others have mentioned, the drunk guy in the clinic could very well be Eric. I hope not, mainly because he will be vilified for his sperm being used and not Daniel's. I really don't want to see that.

In my mind, there is a little Serena and Eric child out there somewhere to be found.
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lysie


Meanwhile, if they are friends, Ari needs a new one. This story is bad.
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KLK
Nov 4 2016, 06:51 AM
lysie
Nov 3 2016, 10:01 PM
IDK anything about AZ and Dena being friends but AZ did say this about Dena during the reset in 2011. This was interesting at the time, because we were hearing a lot about how happy the cast was to have Dena gone. (this was to DR at the HTS sneak peak)

Part of the show reinventing itself was the firing of headwriter Dena Higley. Zucker tells us she always hates to see someone be fired, and she was particularly sad about Higley. “She wrote my character really well. I got spoiled. I appreciate that because for the first 8 years I was on the show, I was written as either comic relief or as a wedge between somebody. She gave Nicole her own story, and I am very grateful for that.”


Meanwhile, I think Dena and Judi Evans might be friends. One of Dena's daughters has a pic of herself with the two of them with the caption "Some of my favorite people."
I've seen nothing to suggest they're friends outside of work, but if they are I don't think it reflects negatively on Ari as has been implied several times in this thread. Every writer has their favorites that they like to write for, I don't think that gives those actors the power to dictate their storylines. Several actors have benefitted from the change from Josh to Dena......JE, BD, WK, MR, JR to name some, I won't even include Ari in that list because I don't feel she has gained much as of yet. Josh had his "pets" and those actors dominated the show for months while he was in control. I'm glad that so far Dena/Ryan have a much more balanced show.

Dena wrote some great stuff for Ari/Nicole in the baby switch storyline, so I can see Ari speaking about her during that time in a positive way.
About Dena being good about giving some other characters a story, I have a few thoughts. I think the show is slightly more balanced now (although very vet heavy during the villains) but not nearly as one sided as it was during Josh.

That being said, Lucas and Adrianne and Justin have had like two episodes setting up this big triangle for a November sweeps wedding. Giving recurring characters that big a story when you don't plan on really using them doesn't do the characters or the story justice. I feel the same way about Abe's stuff. JR is on contract but his guarantee can't possible be enough that this isn't spotty the way it has been.

Lastly about Nicole. I don't think Dena's done her a lot of favors so far. Especially if she takes Deimos back. She's looked foolish enough already and now there's more daniel wailing coming.
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WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY???
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