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Friday, November 4th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Nov 3 2016, 05:31 PM (9,613 Views)
sonnyfan
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lysie
Nov 5 2016, 12:30 AM
sonnyfan
Nov 5 2016, 12:28 AM
lysie
Nov 5 2016, 12:22 AM

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I've heard people say that hair color is Strawberry Blond...it's Orange...Orange...sorry
Yeah, it's nowhere near strawberry blond.
it wasn't strawberry blond when my MIL have that color either...it was Orange
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this ladies hair is said to be Strawberry blond...it's orange too.
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jen67


I may be in the minority, but I like the backstory for Theresa, not because it is a compelling story (it's not), but because we are finally finding out why she was so rebellious when she came to Salem. I also like the fact that Kim and Shane, my favorite supercouple on Days, are back to see their daughter. Her story has been so frustrating the past three years when it seemed the writers were throwing Kim and Shane under the bus and making it appear that they were the most uncaring parents. That being said, I don't like the sacrifice Theresa feels she has to make in order to protect Brady and Tate, but it does make sense that she does not tell Brady, because the idiot does act first and not think about consequences, and even Victor feels Matteo is too powerful to take him on.

While I want Chloe to tell Nicole about the baby, I understand why Chloe is upset with her for bringing Deimos along. Chloe is afraid he will still be part of that baby's life as he is seeing Nicole, and despite what Deimos says, he has not changed and with his temperament should not be around any child he would have influence over. Between EJ, Daniel, and Deimos, Nicole knows how to pick the worst men to be with.
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jen67
Nov 5 2016, 03:31 AM
I may be in the minority, but I like the backstory for Theresa, not because it is a compelling story (it's not), but because we are finally finding out why she was so rebellious when she came to Salem. I also like the fact that Kim and Shane, my favorite supercouple on Days, are back to see their daughter. Her story has been so frustrating the past three years when it seemed the writers were throwing Kim and Shane under the bus and making it appear that they were the most uncaring parents. That being said, I don't like the sacrifice Theresa feels she has to make in order to protect Brady and Tate, but it does make sense that she does not tell Brady, because the idiot does act first and not think about consequences, and even Victor feels Matteo is too powerful to take him on.

While I want Chloe to tell Nicole about the baby, I understand why Chloe is upset with her for bringing Deimos along. Chloe is afraid he will still be part of that baby's life as he is seeing Nicole, and despite what Deimos says, he has not changed and with his temperament should not be around any child he would have influence over. Between EJ, Daniel, and Deimos, Nicole knows how to pick the worst men to be with.
Theresa is still bashing her parents even now.
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rfsexton
Nov 4 2016, 08:38 PM
Jamiesims918
Nov 4 2016, 08:25 PM
This egg donor baby stuff is random, no? It's so soapy ridiculous, it's fun, in a campy way.
I have the perfect fix for it. Orange Glow's sperm was defective for whatever reason and he asked Eric to help them. So the Baby will be Eric's. He did not tell Chloe
To further expand due to another post I saw....

the baby needs a transfusion.... doctors say Nicole is the mom, but DumbDan can not possibly be the father. Blood testing for a match points to Eric Brady. Nicole goes to Eric and asks how is this possible. He tells her that DumbDan found out his sperm was not compatible with Nicole's and asked his pal Eric to help them. Eric agreed.

Then to add another plot twist....DumbDan put something extra and hard to trace drug in Eric's drink that contributed to the accident to get Eric out of the way because he was afraid if the truth came out, Nicole would dump him and go with Eric.
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Nov 5 2016, 12:11 AM
3WishGenie
Nov 4 2016, 09:34 PM
I just don't understand why Nicole fans have to be screwed over with every passing storyline. Who the eff asked for a Dicole baby?? :soapbox:
Nobody asked for a Dicole baby, LOL!
But I have a hunch that it's not even Daniel's baby that Chloe is carrying, but she doesn't know that yet.
And that's going to be the twist to the story...
The more I think about this, the more I think this baby will stay a Dicole baby.

Story: Chloe is pregnant.

Twist 1: The father is her BFF Nicole's boyfriend!

Twist 2: Philip agrees to be the pretend daddy!

Twist 3: The paternity tests show that neither Philip NOR Deimos is the father!

Twist 4: Daniel is the father... and Nicole is the mother!

Twist 5: Chloe doesn't want to give up the baby. Who will help cover her lie, and how long until Nicole finds out?

That's plenty of twists as far as the show is concerned.

On this board, Eric is popular with and without Nicole. On this board, Daniel is phenomenally unpopular with and without Nicole. If this board were the show's target audience, it would make sense for a final twist to be Eric-as-daddy for the happy ending, like the scrambled eggs story resulting in Shawn fathering what should have been a Philip/Belle baby or Mime!Bo fathering what originally appeared to be Hope's SubSex baby.

But in this case, this board is not the show's target audience. The show doesn't see Eric/Nicole as equivalent to Shawn/Belle in 2005 or Bo/Hope in 2000 as a rooting couple. If anything, the show sees Daniel/Nicole as on par with Shawn/Belle or Bo/Hope. The show has spent over a year driving home the story that Daniel was the love of Nicole's life and that she will never stop mourning him. And you KNOW that according to the show, Daniel as a flawless human being who was never wrong no matter how many relationships he wrecked or how many patients he molested.

So I don't see the show ending the story by "stealing" Nicole's last chance for a Daniel baby. That would be ending the arc on a sour note because in the show's world, Daniel >>>> Eric and Danicole >>>>> Ericole.

This is a distorted reflection of Dena's last big Nicole and babies story. Then, Sydney had to end up with Sami and Nicole had to end up childless and in prison, even though I personally wanted none of those three things to happen. Here, the baby has to be Daniel's and has to end up with Nicole, even though I personally don't want that to happen.
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I want the writers to do whatever it takes to get rid of any view of Orangey being a good guy.
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Nov 4 2016, 11:34 PM
Nicole and Deimos flew to NYC? :blulaugh: And Chloe's at the same empty cafe her mom was in? :blulaugh:

I don't care if Nicole ever has a baby. Not everyone has to have a baby.
Wow, look! The cafe is on the pier "outside" of Chicago...eyeroll.
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Nov 5 2016, 12:30 AM
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Nov 5 2016, 12:28 AM
lysie
Nov 5 2016, 12:22 AM

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I've heard people say that hair color is Strawberry Blond...it's Orange...Orange...sorry
Yeah, it's nowhere near strawberry blond.
I'M a strawberry blonde...and that color looked like it was out of a Clairol kit, sorry
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I just want them to stop retconning things and write normal soapy stories with build-ups, culminations, fall-outs. Maybe then I'll start to care again.
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Now that we know Chloe is carrying a boy, what will his name be? Will Nicole keep the name that Chloe gives him or will she rename him....maybe Chloe will name him Daniel, so Nicole won't have to.
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concerned
Nov 5 2016, 12:16 AM
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Nov 5 2016, 12:12 AM
HollyGolightly
Nov 5 2016, 12:11 AM

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I foresee a little Eric Brady, Jr. coming!!! :cheer: :rockon: :wub:
I don't find Nicole having Eric's baby due to a mixed up embryo sampler even remotely romantic.

It might have worked for Belle and Shawn but it's not at all working for me. ANd due to lack of clips I can't even check if I'm remembering that storyline correctly.
I'm pretty bipolar about this so I may be contradicting myself and just want anyone reading to know that I know that I may be contradicting myself.

But...I'd take it! The most detestable thing to me would be a Dickole baby and I'd hope for it's death (sorry other Nicole fans, but you know that's how I feel...it's not meant to be a slam). So if this story is saved with a last minute switch to an Ericole baby...no matter HOW (except that if Eric is in anyway made to be the villain I will be eternally pissed, but I'll totally get over it if I get Ericole in the end, but I'll totally be pissed I'm not cool with it at the moment...NO...Eric does not need to be the villain here at all...he has been through enough so that isn't a feasible option for me, but remember I'm bipolar about this) I'll probably accept it as the most amazing, romantic story DAYS has ever done (ok...that might have been a smidge hyperbolic, but it's not like I'm known for being reasonable).

Yes an Ericole baby saves this story for me. Not for others, I get that, but for me.

ETA: And I'm not even really comfortable speculating that it could be an Ericole baby because this show is phenomenally famous for screwing Ericole fans over.
Edited by jennmarie, Nov 5 2016, 09:01 AM.
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Cimz
Nov 5 2016, 07:17 AM
HollyGolightly
Nov 5 2016, 12:11 AM
3WishGenie
Nov 4 2016, 09:34 PM
I just don't understand why Nicole fans have to be screwed over with every passing storyline. Who the eff asked for a Dicole baby?? :soapbox:
Nobody asked for a Dicole baby, LOL!
But I have a hunch that it's not even Daniel's baby that Chloe is carrying, but she doesn't know that yet.
And that's going to be the twist to the story...
The more I think about this, the more I think this baby will stay a Dicole baby.

Story: Chloe is pregnant.

Twist 1: The father is her BFF Nicole's boyfriend!

Twist 2: Philip agrees to be the pretend daddy!

Twist 3: The paternity tests show that neither Philip NOR Deimos is the father!

Twist 4: Daniel is the father... and Nicole is the mother!

Twist 5: Chloe doesn't want to give up the baby. Who will help cover her lie, and how long until Nicole finds out?

That's plenty of twists as far as the show is concerned.

On this board, Eric is popular with and without Nicole. On this board, Daniel is phenomenally unpopular with and without Nicole. If this board were the show's target audience, it would make sense for a final twist to be Eric-as-daddy for the happy ending, like the scrambled eggs story resulting in Shawn fathering what should have been a Philip/Belle baby or Mime!Bo fathering what originally appeared to be Hope's SubSex baby.

But in this case, this board is not the show's target audience. The show doesn't see Eric/Nicole as equivalent to Shawn/Belle in 2005 or Bo/Hope in 2000 as a rooting couple. If anything, the show sees Daniel/Nicole as on par with Shawn/Belle or Bo/Hope. The show has spent over a year driving home the story that Daniel was the love of Nicole's life and that she will never stop mourning him. And you KNOW that according to the show, Daniel as a flawless human being who was never wrong no matter how many relationships he wrecked or how many patients he molested.

So I don't see the show ending the story by "stealing" Nicole's last chance for a Daniel baby. That would be ending the arc on a sour note because in the show's world, Daniel >>>> Eric and Danicole >>>>> Ericole.

This is a distorted reflection of Dena's last big Nicole and babies story. Then, Sydney had to end up with Sami and Nicole had to end up childless and in prison, even though I personally wanted none of those three things to happen. Here, the baby has to be Daniel's and has to end up with Nicole, even though I personally don't want that to happen.
The unfortunate truth. We need to view the story from the lens of TPTB and obviously they worship the character of Daniel Jonas.
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concerned
Nov 5 2016, 12:16 AM
AmbernOK
Nov 5 2016, 12:12 AM
HollyGolightly
Nov 5 2016, 12:11 AM

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I foresee a little Eric Brady, Jr. coming!!! :cheer: :rockon: :wub:
I don't find Nicole having Eric's baby due to a mixed up embryo sampler even remotely romantic.

It might have worked for Belle and Shawn but it's not at all working for me. ANd due to lack of clips I can't even check if I'm remembering that storyline correctly.
I agree that it is not even remotely romantic, but if it spares us of anymore of Daniel's spawns, I'm all for it!

Besides, if the child is Eric's, it will put Nicole in a tricky situation... Right now, she blames Eric for the death
of the "love" of her life and probably will never forgive him, BUT she might have to change her attitude, once
she realizes he's the biological father. Just saying...
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gailwinters
Nov 5 2016, 08:35 AM
Now that we know Chloe is carrying a boy, what will his name be? Will Nicole keep the name that Chloe gives him or will she rename him....maybe Chloe will name him Daniel, so Nicole won't have to.
Oh God. Do we really need another child named after Daniel?

Johnny and Sydney's half-brother was already named Daniel, as in Daniel Rafael Hernandez (and I'm sure he was buried as Daniel Rafael DiMera) so does his half-brother REALLY have to have the same first name.

Oh wait. I forgot this is Delusional Dena writing with probably no input from Rickety Ryan so the next 10 or so kids will have some form of Daniel in their names.
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Worse than the orange hair was the hair style. A big bouffant with a swirly bang like that was never, ever in style.....where's the layering? She needed either a full sideswept bang or a wispy bang or just some scrunching. It was just so distracting; it was a helmet.
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Trying to fix things.

The baby is Daniel and Nicole's.
Chloe's leukhemia comes back.
Chloe refuses to have treatment because it will affect the baby.
Nicole goes through a lot of pain and self assessment.
Realises all the signs are just pointing to her and Daniel were never meant to be.
Nicole sacrifices the baby to save Chloe.

The whole town is happy chloe is going to survive.
Nicole goes somewhere to quietly cry.
Eric follows her.
Eric acknowledges how much she has lost and how being able to give up the one thing she has wanted the most in her life to save her friend is the Nicole he has always known was there.
Eric hugs her, in her grief Nicole lets him.
They both are shocked as they realise that spark between them is still there.
They try to fight it for a while.
They end up giving in.

Miracle baby 3# / 4# happens the old fashioned way,
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Nov 5 2016, 03:44 PM
Trying to fix things.

The baby is Daniel and Nicole's.
Chloe's leukhemia comes back.
Chloe refuses to have treatment because it will affect the baby.
Nicole goes through a lot of pain and self assessment.
Realises all the signs are just pointing to her and Daniel were never meant to be.
Nicole sacrifices the baby to save Chloe.

The whole town is happy chloe is going to survive.
Nicole goes somewhere to quietly cry.
Eric follows her.
Eric acknowledges how much she has lost and how being able to give up the one thing she has wanted the most in her life to save her friend is the Nicole he has always known was there.
Eric hugs her, in her grief Nicole lets him.
They both are shocked as they realise that spark between them is still there.
They try to fight it for a while.
They end up giving in.

Miracle baby 3# / 4# happens the old fashioned way,
What a beautiful story about friendship and forgiveness and multifaceted women who have agency.

So basically the opposite of anything Dena would ever write.
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From the recap:

Rafe pulls Hope out of holding to give her a break as Theo confronts Ciara over her mother murdering his grandfather. Ciara is driven to seek out Hope for answers... Meanwhile, Rafe helps Theo grapple with his own confusion over what happened.

Was the Theo and Ciara bit shown?
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Restless84
Nov 5 2016, 10:33 PM
From the recap:

Rafe pulls Hope out of holding to give her a break as Theo confronts Ciara over her mother murdering his grandfather. Ciara is driven to seek out Hope for answers... Meanwhile, Rafe helps Theo grapple with his own confusion over what happened.

Was the Theo and Ciara bit shown?
No. Just the Ciara and Theo after she talked to Hope.
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