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Spoilers for the Week of November 14th; Updated 11/6
Topic Started: Nov 4 2016, 11:05 PM (18,892 Views)
gailwinters
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DaysBopeLuv
Nov 5 2016, 11:47 AM
Well at least we apparently don't have Abigail lurking alone around Salem for weeks, but I wonder if the person that discovers her keeps quiet and only they will know.
My money's on Andre. She will sneak into the DiManse to see Thomas and run into Andre.
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I believe Andre already knows Abby is in Salem. Per spoilers for this week, Laura calls him with news which I think is that Abby left to go to Salem.
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Nov 5 2016, 08:49 AM
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Nov 5 2016, 12:37 AM
I will say that Hopes trial is apparently going to be one of the quickest in the shows history! Guess the story is supposed to be the prison part, not the trial part. Honestly though, I'm glad it doesn't seem to get drawn out, and we don't have to see every town resident get on the stand and talk about how wonderful Hope normally is... like they did last time.
I don't think it is a trial per say, it is more like a sentencing hearing. Hope confessed which pretty much means no actual trial, they just present evidence, etc so that the judge can rule on the sentence. I think she is waiving all her rights to a trial to keep Rafe and Roman out of it. Doesn't sound like they are presenting much though. They are just calling it a trial maybe instead of a sentencing hearing :shrug:
I agree it's not an actual trial, per se, but at sentencing hearings people are allowed to speak both for a stronger sentence and for a more lenient sentence. It doesn't sound like enough time to parade everyone in town thru to speak. I just need this horrible Stefano storyline wrapped up quickly and move on from a story that shouldn't have happened. We all know Hope won't be in jail for long and most will be complaining that she didn't serve enough time, however they decide to get her released. I just want to put the whole thing behind and chalk it up to another one of Griffith missteps during his tenure as HW.
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I want Jennifer to be the first one to see Abigail. It will probably be someone like Gabi though.
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Restless84
Nov 5 2016, 12:08 PM
I believe Andre already knows Abby is in Salem. Per spoilers for this week, Laura calls him with news which I think is that Abby left to go to Salem.
Yeah, I figured that Andre and Laura would already know, so I'm guessing it will be somebody else. I don't think it will be Jennifer or JJ, but you never know.
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Dr. Chip


Let's say the writers were set on having Hope shoot Stefano. What could have been interesting for the resolution is having Hope stand trial, but have characters come out of the woodwork to testify for Hope or about what Stefano was capable of. If done for the 50th, there could have been returns and flashbacks (Neil and Liz, Alex, David, Melissa, Rex and Cassie, Vivian, Delia, Nurse Honeycutt, Celeste, Anna, Drew, Shane and Kimberly, Hattie, Carrie, Eric, Susan Banks, Diana, Eugene, etc.). So many wasted opportunities to celebrate 50 years of fans' patience for this increasingly frustrating show...
Edited by Dr. Chip, Nov 5 2016, 01:35 PM.
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Nov 5 2016, 01:32 PM
Let's say the writers were set on having Hope shoot Stefano. What could have been interesting for the resolution is having Hope stand trial, but have characters come out of the woodwork to testify for Hope or about what Stefano was capable of. If done for the 50th, there could have been returns and flashbacks (Neil and Liz, Alex, David, Melissa, Rex and Cassie, Vivian, Delia, Nurse Honeycutt, Celeste, Anna, Drew, Shane and Kimberly, Hattie, Carrie, Eric, Susan Banks, Diana, Eugene, etc.). So many wasted opportunities to celebrate 50 years of fans' patience for this increasingly frustrating show...
That could have been quite cool! Especially if Hope was honest up front that she killed him while not in imminent danger, and her attorney mounted an insanity defense based on 30 years of Stefano torturing the people she loved.
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Cimz
Nov 5 2016, 01:43 PM
Dr. Chip
Nov 5 2016, 01:32 PM
Let's say the writers were set on having Hope shoot Stefano. What could have been interesting for the resolution is having Hope stand trial, but have characters come out of the woodwork to testify for Hope or about what Stefano was capable of. If done for the 50th, there could have been returns and flashbacks (Neil and Liz, Alex, David, Melissa, Rex and Cassie, Vivian, Delia, Nurse Honeycutt, Celeste, Anna, Drew, Shane and Kimberly, Hattie, Carrie, Eric, Susan Banks, Diana, Eugene, etc.). So many wasted opportunities to celebrate 50 years of fans' patience for this increasingly frustrating show...
That could have been quite cool! Especially if Hope was honest up front that she killed him while not in imminent danger, and her attorney mounted an insanity defense based on 30 years of Stefano torturing the people she loved.
That would have been great. Honestly I think ALL of the soaps are in desperate need of new blood with fresh ideas, and they need to stop recycling the same writers who fail at one soap then go on and fail at another one.
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Thank you JCP.

What I didn't like was that the people who came back from the dead or were brainwashed and tortured :whip: and had amnesia :hypnotize: were expected to just get over it, while Stefano stayed in Salem in front of their loved ones and went on with his life like he never did anything wrong.

I am sure J.M. wanted to work as long as he could, but they waited too long for it to have meaning for me that he was killed for something he didn't do. :tclosed:
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Nov 5 2016, 02:14 PM
What I didn't like was that the people who came back from the dead or were brainwashed and tortured :whip: and had amnesia :hypnotize: were expected to just get over it, while Stefano stayed in Salem in front of their loved ones and went on with his life like he never did anything wrong.


I had trouble seeing Stefano dining at Brady's Pub. Why did Caroline allow this?!? And Maggie at Tuscany, after what he did to Mickey?!? And since I was watching during the Salem Slasher murders, I have a really hard time seeing Andre in his current incarnation.

Andre murdered Marlena's cousin (Eugene's wife, Trista) and did horrible things to her (Melaswen anyone?). Someone posted that Eugene could be returning for a visit. I don't know if that's true or not, but if it is...I hope Eugene doesn't smile at, and joke with, Andre like Marlena does these days.
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Nov 5 2016, 01:50 PM
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Nov 5 2016, 01:43 PM
Dr. Chip
Nov 5 2016, 01:32 PM
Let's say the writers were set on having Hope shoot Stefano. What could have been interesting for the resolution is having Hope stand trial, but have characters come out of the woodwork to testify for Hope or about what Stefano was capable of. If done for the 50th, there could have been returns and flashbacks (Neil and Liz, Alex, David, Melissa, Rex and Cassie, Vivian, Delia, Nurse Honeycutt, Celeste, Anna, Drew, Shane and Kimberly, Hattie, Carrie, Eric, Susan Banks, Diana, Eugene, etc.). So many wasted opportunities to celebrate 50 years of fans' patience for this increasingly frustrating show...
That could have been quite cool! Especially if Hope was honest up front that she killed him while not in imminent danger, and her attorney mounted an insanity defense based on 30 years of Stefano torturing the people she loved.
That would have been great. Honestly I think ALL of the soaps are in desperate need of new blood with fresh ideas, and they need to stop recycling the same writers who fail at one soap then go on and fail at another one.
in this case, Dena is recycling a prison story she wrote for Hope the last time she was head writer. (Even the timing for when Hope's going to be released (based on KA's instagram posts) seems to match up with the last prison story.)
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Nov 5 2016, 01:43 PM
Dr. Chip
Nov 5 2016, 01:32 PM
Let's say the writers were set on having Hope shoot Stefano. What could have been interesting for the resolution is having Hope stand trial, but have characters come out of the woodwork to testify for Hope or about what Stefano was capable of. If done for the 50th, there could have been returns and flashbacks (Neil and Liz, Alex, David, Melissa, Rex and Cassie, Vivian, Delia, Nurse Honeycutt, Celeste, Anna, Drew, Shane and Kimberly, Hattie, Carrie, Eric, Susan Banks, Diana, Eugene, etc.). So many wasted opportunities to celebrate 50 years of fans' patience for this increasingly frustrating show...
That could have been quite cool! Especially if Hope was honest up front that she killed him while not in imminent danger, and her attorney mounted an insanity defense based on 30 years of Stefano torturing the people she loved.
Would have been an amazing send off for Joe too.
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Dr. Chip
Nov 5 2016, 01:32 PM
Let's say the writers were set on having Hope shoot Stefano. What could have been interesting for the resolution is having Hope stand trial, but have characters come out of the woodwork to testify for Hope or about what Stefano was capable of. If done for the 50th, there could have been returns and flashbacks (Neil and Liz, Alex, David, Melissa, Rex and Cassie, Vivian, Delia, Nurse Honeycutt, Celeste, Anna, Drew, Shane and Kimberly, Hattie, Carrie, Eric, Susan Banks, Diana, Eugene, etc.). So many wasted opportunities to celebrate 50 years of fans' patience for this increasingly frustrating show...
And don't forget the Soup Natzi! Oh wait...LOL!
Edited by 4ever DAYS, Nov 5 2016, 09:13 PM.
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concerned
Nov 5 2016, 03:49 PM
Cimz
Nov 5 2016, 01:43 PM
Dr. Chip
Nov 5 2016, 01:32 PM
Let's say the writers were set on having Hope shoot Stefano. What could have been interesting for the resolution is having Hope stand trial, but have characters come out of the woodwork to testify for Hope or about what Stefano was capable of. If done for the 50th, there could have been returns and flashbacks (Neil and Liz, Alex, David, Melissa, Rex and Cassie, Vivian, Delia, Nurse Honeycutt, Celeste, Anna, Drew, Shane and Kimberly, Hattie, Carrie, Eric, Susan Banks, Diana, Eugene, etc.). So many wasted opportunities to celebrate 50 years of fans' patience for this increasingly frustrating show...
That could have been quite cool! Especially if Hope was honest up front that she killed him while not in imminent danger, and her attorney mounted an insanity defense based on 30 years of Stefano torturing the people she loved.
Would have been an amazing send off for Joe too.
It would be kind of interesting to find out if Stefano was actually goading Hope into shooting him as it sure seemed like it. It would've been even better to have let Stefano survive the shooting and then disappear out of the hospital and let everyone wonder if he was actually dead and, if not, where was he and would he return again. It would've been in keeping with the mystique of the character and the whole idea of the Phoenix who kept rising from the ashes.
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concerned
Nov 5 2016, 03:49 PM
Cimz
Nov 5 2016, 01:43 PM
Dr. Chip
Nov 5 2016, 01:32 PM
Let's say the writers were set on having Hope shoot Stefano. What could have been interesting for the resolution is having Hope stand trial, but have characters come out of the woodwork to testify for Hope or about what Stefano was capable of. If done for the 50th, there could have been returns and flashbacks (Neil and Liz, Alex, David, Melissa, Rex and Cassie, Vivian, Delia, Nurse Honeycutt, Celeste, Anna, Drew, Shane and Kimberly, Hattie, Carrie, Eric, Susan Banks, Diana, Eugene, etc.). So many wasted opportunities to celebrate 50 years of fans' patience for this increasingly frustrating show...
That could have been quite cool! Especially if Hope was honest up front that she killed him while not in imminent danger, and her attorney mounted an insanity defense based on 30 years of Stefano torturing the people she loved.
Would have been an amazing send off for Joe too.
It would have! I'm still annoyed that Stefano's last scene wasn't a dying dream/hallucination of him presiding over a dinner table surrounded by all of his children, dead and alive. (As universally beloved as Joe is, I think even the retired actors would show up for an afternoon to shoot it.)

Then the trial is full of Stefano-centric flashbacks, but also reactions from the current Salemites as they watch the testimony.

You want to integrate the teens with the rest of the cast? Excellent! I'm sure Claire/Ciara/Joey would never hold what they're hearing against their pal Theo, but Theo feels awkward as hell, right? Meanwhile, Joey's getting a deeper understanding of what makes his parents tick and Ciara's mourning Bo all over again while worrying about Hope.

You want to center the young adult story around Chad's struggle with the future of the DiMera name? Here's a great opportunity for him to hear all of the dirty laundry and be reminded anew that there was a reason his mother went to great lengths to make sure he wasn't raised DiMera. After this trial, does he still want to live in that house, call his company DiMera Enterprises, and work with Andre of all people? Maybe, he, Abby, and Thomas will all want to go by Deveraux by the time this is over. :blulaugh:

You aren't sure what to do with the thirtysomethings? Here's what to do with them: Shawn would obviously be testifying a lot. Does that bring Belle closer to him? What's it like for Shawn and Belle to hear about brain chips and SubSex as adults, rather than as teenagers who were mainly concerned that it was icky to share a sibling? What's it like for Belle and Brady to hear their older siblings talk about being subjected to the Roman/John switcheroo? Does Austin do something romantic for Carrie after she testifies? Does Nicole feel anything for Eric after listening to him, or is she just the dispassionate reporter covering the trial of the century for the tv station?

And I'm just gonna assume that the vets who were on the front lines of those Stefano stories for so many years get together and drink heavily while waiting for Hope's verdict to come down, while sharing stories (flashbacks) of their happier memories instead of the traumatic ones.
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Nov 4 2016, 11:53 PM
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Nov 4 2016, 11:46 PM
As much as I continue to prefer a more backburnered Joey than a Jade pregnancy is leading to... I do appreciate that he isn't trying to hide things or work it out completely on his own. Glad he's talking to Steve and while I think Kay is who in general he should go to for advice about any real life issues I appreciate that he'd go to Steve here because Kay hates Jade and because impending father to father... I guess.

I don't love this Hope story at all but at least it seems to be rolling along at a pretty good clip. I am looking forward to jailed Hope.
I haven't been following the threads on a daily basis.I was wondering if it is possible that Jade is lying about being pregnant,if she is in fact going to claim she is pregnant
One pregnancy SL isn't enough??? Geesh

I was hoping Jade's secret would be that she's Ava's daughter!!!

BORING
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Thank you JCP.

Well, Dena said nobody was going to stop her from writing the stories she wants this time. So it will be Dena crappy stories all the way.
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Yeeesshhh...to have JJ cheat again just seems so stupid. Where did he find the time? It's not like he had some sour relationship with Gabi...they were barely onscreen and when they were, they were sweet with one another. Did he get bored or something? Moreover, if he's going to cheat, why would it be someone like Lani? I mean, she was just trying to get into bed with Shawn not too long ago. I'm really hoping that whatever JJ is hiding is something far more interesting than a cheating storyline. If this is really the route that they're going though...I would love for at least some kind of explanation. :glare:
Edited by truluvpassions07, Nov 5 2016, 06:19 PM.
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As much as I love Lucas, the fact that he is supposedly getting married and there has been so little buildup makes it difficult for me to care. Especially since it seems Justin or someone interrupts and he doesn't even GET married. What exactly was the point of that storyline?
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I know that Andre and Laura know that Abby is alive but I'm still going with Andre being the one to find her.

I still love Gabi and JJ and are rooting for them like Chabby. I hope we get to see the story from both POVs.

So I'm guessing that they fake Theresa's death?

I feel bad for Philip. I'm glad that he wants to tell Nicole the truth. My guess is that soon Brady and Deimos will find out who the baby really belongs too. I'm thinking that either Philip gets mad and leaves on his own or to keep him from spilling the beans Deimos ships him off to Titan's Europe division.

I wonder if something or someone will stop Lucas and Adrienne''s wedding? I would still like for them to find Lucas another love interest and give him an actual storyline. Then put Justin and Adrienne back together.
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