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| Monday, November 7th Episode Discussion | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 6 2016, 03:56 PM (9,709 Views) | |
| am103 | Nov 7 2016, 02:40 PM Post #141 |
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I don't consider Nicole the villain, but I definitely can't bring myself to drum up any sympathy for her. I haven't had any emotional investment in her character since the Furnace of Love. She's not Nicole to me because she's been ruined by Daniel and Deimos. And yes, the only person I feel sorry for is Chloe when Deimos constantly tears her down and Nicole just stands by to watch. These characters suck. |
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| bygnedys | Nov 7 2016, 02:49 PM Post #142 |
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Thank you JCP.
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Yeah, and these are some of Dena's favs. Just imagine what she is going to do the characters she doesn't care about. |
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| Inara Serra | Nov 7 2016, 02:55 PM Post #143 |
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Anyway, this works fine. Honey, you look horrific.
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Daniel ruined EVERYONE he ever came in contact with. If we are going to be subjected to Daniel flashbacks for months, I hope they plan on tarnishing his orange halo in the process and that we NEVER have to hear about his ass again. I would much rather see Chloe struggling to give up the baby because she bonded with it instead of this Deimos is a monster crap - she slept with him willingly enough. Of course, he's been treating her like shit since he found out she was pregnant so NOW she has reason to hate his guts but not before. I don't even mind if Chloe refuses to give up the baby for awhile - but not too long because dammit Nicole has waited long enough for a baby of her own - and I don't want her to miss out on the infant part of a baby (if they plan on that I would just rather Baby Ejole be found alive instead of this nonsense). I assume if the baby is born alive they will manufacture some health emergency for the baby and then it will come out that Nicole is the mother (and hopefully that Daniel is not the father and that Eric is). If that's the road they are going to take I want Deimos to find out about it and keep it from Nicole. That would put an end to NicoDeimos for sure considering how he's treated her about keeping Chloe's secret (hoist him with his own petard). Unless Brady is going to come down on Nicole's side, he can just stay off in the corner and lick his wounds while remembering that he's a Black not a Kiriakis once Theresa leaves. |
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| ICan'tWithTrump | Nov 7 2016, 02:57 PM Post #144 |
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I love Chloe Lane. Period. Hope she stays on this show for a long time! |
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| LuvingLumi | Nov 7 2016, 03:11 PM Post #145 |
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!
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Yeah the setup isn't brilliant but there is a nice out if you want to even call it that. At least they are not taking their clothing off and sleeping together by now...it's a plus, a really small plus but a plus nonetheless. If Dena wanted them to kiss each other, she would have done it without a reason given...same with sleeping together...Dena would have thrown them in bed by now, without Gabi having the excuse to react to JJ cheating (which BTW I don't believe he did it but I believe he thinks he did).... I know where this is going...Abby will most likely peek through the window to see Chad and realize that Gabi and him and doing the nasty....I do think it's a good setup for crazy Abby to get some kind of revenge on Gabi...instant enemies seems the most logical story for those two.. For once I wish this show would write something different, I really do want Chad to reject Gabi if she comes around wanting to be comforted. I want him to tell her that it's too soon, that his wife just died and he's not ready. That is really the only thing you need, nothing more, heck I wouldn't even mind if they show Chad waffling between his attraction to Gabi and not being really ready to move on. I think that would be wonderful and then he starts to see someone in town that looks like Abby and that is all he needs....maybe he even thinks he's hallucinating at first....but I know better with this show... |
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| PatNS | Nov 7 2016, 03:12 PM Post #146 |
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Deimos and his gloating over Nicole being 'loyal' to him over her friendship with Chloe was tasteless. Seriously Nicole, did Daniel take away every bit of your self respect that you don't realise that Deimos expects to be the center of your universe to the exclusion of all others. So stupid. Deimos aside I don't think Chloe has the right to keep Nicole's child from her as long as Nicole remains with Deimos. I wished she hadn't mentioned Daniel's name when talking to Philip because it just muddied the waters. So if this child wasn't Daniel's child, Parker's brother would that mean she wouldn't feel the baby needed to be protected from Deimos. Philip, you shouldn't have agreed to keep this a secret. It's not going to work out well in the end. Speaking of secrets, JJ spilled his to Jen. I'm so not here for a triangle between Chad, Gabi and JJ ... especially not with Abby returning. I can understand what happened ... he doesn't even remember having sex with that girl but he should tell Gabi and let the chips fall where they may ... at least there wouldn't be any lies between them. I wonder if Gabi is going to tell JJ she kissed Chad to save him from a vamp ... hmm. Speaking of Chad - Chad stating that he will make sure Hope is held accountable for her crime rubbed me the wrong way. I mean Chad is guilty of obstructing justice and giving false testimony and he's an accessory after the fact in an attempted murder ... does he feel that because a person's surname is DiMera that they don't have to help accountable for anything they do. Hypocrisy lives and thrives very well in Salem ... and I'm applying that to Hope and her protectors as well ... not just Chad and Kate. Kate stating that Hope had to be held accountable was laughable considering she never faced any jail time for trying to murder Chloe or framing Sami for murder. Julie sure doesn't like Gabi does she and she's going to have even more reason to dislike her if Gabi and Chad become involved. It's not going to be pretty! |
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| LuvingLumi | Nov 7 2016, 03:12 PM Post #147 |
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!
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This is exactly like the Abby/Austin setup of a few years ago.... |
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| Cimz | Nov 7 2016, 03:18 PM Post #148 |
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I really like this post. It's not that I think Nicole is a villain or that I actively want anything bad to happen to her. It's that I have no interest in her when she's functioning as a Daniel stand-in who never had any personality, experiences, or connections prior to being blessed with Daniel's presence. That was a problem when she was his girlfriend telling him how lucky she was to have him and when she was his "widow" mourning him month after month while other dead characters are as forgotten as the parts of Nicole's past that didn't involve Daniel. I expect it would continue to be a problem if she were blessed with his posthumous miracle baby. Meanwhile, I have a bit of an emotional reaction when Chloe runs away from a man who frightens her and who has actively treated her like an incubator with no rights to her own body, and her "friend" throws her to the man in question. I had the exact same reaction the last time Dena did one of her grand baby stories. Sami didn't deserve to have her baby stolen, but I had no interest in her when she had a full harem of men between whom she bounced and a full complement of children she already ignored. So my emotional investment was in Nicole, who perpetually lost what little she had to a woman who already had more than she knew what to do with. When Sami went from scrappy underdog to flower around whom all the bees buzzed, she lost rooting value for me. When Nicole went from character in her own right to pale shadow of Daniel, she lost rooting value for me. When I wish, in vain, for Chloe to keep the baby from Nicole, what I'm really wishing for is a Nicole who can be her own woman instead of forever a satellite of the burned-out sun that was Dr. Jonas. Or to use a different metaphor, give her a baby by this man and the albatross will never be off her neck. |
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| jennmarie | Nov 7 2016, 03:35 PM Post #149 |
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I do feel sympathy for Chloe and I do detest how Deimos is treating both women. I hate that Nicole is allowing herself to be manipulated like this. I hate a lot of things she has done and said lately, but I don't hate her and can still have sympathy for her. But I also have the hope that she will be fixed at some point. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm still hoping. I still see shades of the Nicole I love even though a lot of the things that come out of her mouth in reference to the disgusting one are detestable to me. |
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| funone | Nov 7 2016, 03:37 PM Post #150 |
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What was that purple shirt Chad was wearing and why doesn't he have an office instead of constantly being shown in the den? |
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| missmeka1987_ | Nov 7 2016, 03:49 PM Post #151 |
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Long Live Stefano (RIP JOE)
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I would have liked this baby sl better if Nicole and Chloe were getting along and Chloe gives a water birth and then they find out the baby is Ericole's :)
Edited by missmeka1987_, Nov 7 2016, 03:50 PM.
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| JTClassicSoaps | Nov 7 2016, 03:54 PM Post #152 |
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J&M and Family Fanatic!
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If Dena had any worth as a writer she would use a scheming Lexie as springboard for some good scenes where Abe had to reflect on the "Evil Lexie" years. As it is I doubt this will even be much of an actual story. :rolleyes: Edited by JTClassicSoaps, Nov 7 2016, 03:54 PM.
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| concerned | Nov 7 2016, 03:57 PM Post #153 |
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I need Nicole to see a text message from Xander to Deimos very soon. |
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| concerned | Nov 7 2016, 03:58 PM Post #154 |
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And even if they did momentarily think it was Eric's no doubt they'd rewrite it at the first opportunity. |
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| peaches179 | Nov 7 2016, 04:02 PM Post #155 |
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The more they talk about this baby storyline the more ridiculous it sounds. :rolleyes: |
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| Deverauxfan | Nov 7 2016, 04:38 PM Post #156 |
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Bellarke <3
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This baby story is the pits. Everyone looks bad. Posted Image |
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| Schumi_F1 | Nov 7 2016, 04:42 PM Post #157 |
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I wonder if the writers are kidding, believe what they say or just enjoy mocking fans? Is there even one scene where Deimos demonstrates his good heartedness? |
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| DCgirl | Nov 7 2016, 04:45 PM Post #158 |
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AMEN!! Nicole deserves her child. |
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| Schumi_F1 | Nov 7 2016, 04:47 PM Post #159 |
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What? Oh, Philip :facepalm: |
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| DrewHamilton | Nov 7 2016, 04:50 PM Post #160 |
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Was Lani actually in today's episode? I'm wondering what's making everyone suspect it was her who JJ slept with. And why she's lying about it and making JJ think they did this. Has that been spoiled already and I missed it? From the way the Twitter recaps sound, it sounds like the girl was a random girl in Florida. It seems odd that JJ would speak of Lani that way, considering they know each other.
Edited by DrewHamilton, Nov 7 2016, 04:50 PM.
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