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Y&R: New Head Writer Sally Sussman Answers Burning Questions!
Topic Started: Nov 11 2016, 05:37 PM (5,945 Views)
Drew
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Nov 12 2016, 06:57 PM
I also think it would be a mistake for SSM to completely ignore major storylines of the previous regimes. You don't have to go in their direction, but you should address it. Most viewers don't know about the writing regime change, therefore, they will be confused about the sudden change in storyline.

I don't think it's going to be as literal as people are interpreting it from the article. She's still ultimately a writer with a track record rooted in history.

Will Jill be calling Lauren up and being all "hey sis!"? Probably not. Will she suddenly walk in and go "hey, not sister of mine, your dad's my age"? No. But she may unlink them if the opportunity arises otherwise it will go unmentioned.

It's not like we reference every story ever told on every episode. The focus would be on current stories with nods to the past as they fit in with them.
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Nov 12 2016, 07:37 PM
Most of the disappointment I've seen in regards to this interview (on other boards as well as this one) are mostly Chelsea and Philly stans and no offence to them but we need a writer who's not going to cater to that bullshit anymore. It's just not how a soap should be written. Catering to those annoying fans are the very reason we've been stuck with fucking Lane for almost 10 years.
Well to be fair, I liked most of the interview except for 2 points.

#1. Not addressing the Christian's paternity.
#2. And yes, totally dismissing Billy & Phyllis.

It's not a question of catering to one fan base in particular, it's more a question of completely ignoring one.
Of course, a soap is not about just one storyline or one pairing in particular and I agree with that. It's an ensemble of characters
that makes the show. But IMO, she should have waited before passing any judgment on "Philly". Check first who/what you have on
canvas, what is working or not, who/what is igniting fire and THEN form an opinion.
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That was a pretty refreshing interview. I like that she was honest and is not about playing games. Every writing regime since LML has done that.

Now whether she can deliver interesting storylines that makes viewers reinvest in the show...we shall see.
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I loved her writing when Sheila returned the first time. That storyline was spooky as hell
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Drew
Nov 12 2016, 06:34 PM
thepadange
Nov 11 2016, 06:59 PM
If I go to a dentist and she/he starts talking crap about my previous dentists' work, I never go there again.
You're on a board where everyone talks crap about the previous dentist and you keep coming back.
No we don't talk crap about our fellow DR posters - not allowed to ;) .
Previous dentists are a whole different matter ;) .
Edited by thepadange, Nov 12 2016, 10:47 PM.
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Queen B
Nov 12 2016, 07:37 PM
Most of the disappointment I've seen in regards to this interview (on other boards as well as this one) are mostly Chelsea and Philly stans and no offence to them but we need a writer who's not going to cater to that bullshit anymore. It's just not how a soap should be written. Catering to those annoying fans are the very reason we've been stuck with fucking Lane for almost 10 years.
First, nobody is catering to nobody.
Second, fans or stans aren't out of nowhere. We weren't born to love Chadam or Philly or Shick (aren't you a Shick/Sharon fan?). We become fans because we like (or at some point liked) storyline, chemistry or whatever. This means the show did something right. Therefore it would be stupid for the show to allienate fanbases.

Third, what they did with Philly and why fans are unhappy is that they did an 180 on their storyline and now pretend some things never happened. Why should I be happy that someone thinks I'm amnesiac or brainless just because I love soaps. :flipoff: or did it just because they didn't like the previous HWs' work.
Edited by thepadange, Nov 13 2016, 02:16 PM.
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#TeamXander

Anyhow, she has a long way to go to fix all the damage. Feb sweeps isnt that far off. It'll be refreshing to see real drama and not anything explode for a change.

Will they reveal any of Chloe's secrets?? Not one peep about either Bella or killing Adam.
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Nov 12 2016, 06:57 PM
I also with SSM agree that art/Nazi storyline with Victoria sucked.
That story was really the start of the deconstruction of Brad Carlton and it still pisses me off that he and Colleen aren't still characters on the show. At least Don is on B&B now. ^_^
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Nov 12 2016, 07:34 PM
Its such a slap in the face to Jill fans for Devon (a nobody) to receive all of Katherine's wealth. It made no sense. I'm glad SSM is going to fix this.
that upcoming storyline I am extremely happy about.
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Nov 12 2016, 11:53 PM
Anyhow, she has a long way to go to fix all the damage. Feb sweeps isnt that far off. It'll be refreshing to see real drama and not anything explode for a change.

Will they reveal any of Chloe's secrets?? Not one peep about either Bella or killing Adam.
I seriously doubt that the new writers will address this so quickly.
these are the same writers who write Kay Chancellor pouring tea in January and in October she hasn't even put down the tea-pot. Basically you can take a vacation and come back and Nikki, et al will all be wearing the same clothes.
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Nov 13 2016, 09:38 AM
3WishGenie
Nov 12 2016, 11:53 PM
Anyhow, she has a long way to go to fix all the damage. Feb sweeps isnt that far off. It'll be refreshing to see real drama and not anything explode for a change.

Will they reveal any of Chloe's secrets?? Not one peep about either Bella or killing Adam.
I seriously doubt that the new writers will address this so quickly.
these are the same writers who write Kay Chancellor pouring tea in January and in October she hasn't even put the tea-pot. Basically you can take a vacation and come back and Nikki, et al will all be wearing the same clothes.
Do you want your tea made properly or do you want to get it from a Keurig?
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metitle
Nov 13 2016, 09:38 AM
3WishGenie
Nov 12 2016, 11:53 PM
Anyhow, she has a long way to go to fix all the damage. Feb sweeps isnt that far off. It'll be refreshing to see real drama and not anything explode for a change.

Will they reveal any of Chloe's secrets?? Not one peep about either Bella or killing Adam.
I seriously doubt that the new writers will address this so quickly.
these are the same writers who write Kay Chancellor pouring tea in January and in October she hasn't even put the tea-pot. Basically you can take a vacation and come back and Nikki, et al will all be wearing the same clothes.
I'm not sure if I know what time period you're referring to but I know she was an associate head writer from June 05-November 06 and during that time we got Sheila's return, Phick affair which gave us Daniel/Lily and tons of drama that affected almost the entire canvas. Victor was backburned. I enjoyed her writing very much! Kay Alden was also writing the show for most of Y&R's entire existence until 2006 when she was fired by LML. So are you saying the show sucked the whole time it was on the air until 2005? Because in my opinion, that's when it started going downhill. Now we may have gotten some good major characters since then like Adam, Chelsea etc. But besides a few bright spots the show has been awful
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Drew
Nov 13 2016, 09:43 AM
metitle
Nov 13 2016, 09:38 AM
3WishGenie
Nov 12 2016, 11:53 PM
Anyhow, she has a long way to go to fix all the damage. Feb sweeps isnt that far off. It'll be refreshing to see real drama and not anything explode for a change.

Will they reveal any of Chloe's secrets?? Not one peep about either Bella or killing Adam.
I seriously doubt that the new writers will address this so quickly.
these are the same writers who write Kay Chancellor pouring tea in January and in October she hasn't even put the tea-pot. Basically you can take a vacation and come back and Nikki, et al will all be wearing the same clothes.
Do you want your tea made properly or do you want to get it from a Keurig?
technology has advanced so much that Keurig aren't bad.
planes can also fly and land on auto pilot.
its the same technology that is allowing viewers to comment on storylines................back in the day we didn't do that.

but I get where you are going with the Keurig hint.
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Fact is when we think back to the classic stories from this show, or others, we loved them and they're still memorable because they evolved organically and took their time to hit all the needed beats and allowed the characters within them to be characters not caricatures.

25 years later would anyone care about Sheila Carter if she was a 18 week psycho? Would we have had the Jill and Katherine legacy if Jill was a flash in the pan temptress? Would we have cared about Nina if she banged Phillip and tangled with Jill and Katherine for 18 weeks? Would Lauren Fenmore even still be a character if she was just a quicky bully for Traci? Nope.

Can anyone with a straight face name a story in the last 5 years that anyone will be remembering for decades as being either amazing or a tent-pole event?
Edited by Drew, Nov 13 2016, 10:03 AM.
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Hugo


I haven't watched Y&R since March but I'm willing to give it another try. About the interview, I'm conflicted. I think you have to build on what you have instead of ignoring what the previous writers did. Because that's how you lose viewers too, when you take away the reasons some were watching and show no respect for them, when you tell them what they were watching doesn't matter anymore. But I did like the part when she said the show must be binge worthy, that she wants fans to watch the whole thing. I think soaps are not addictive and cohesive enough these days, that's why fans FF so much.
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Every head writer ignores certain things from the previous. I'm not mad about it.
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Nov 13 2016, 11:15 AM
Every head writer ignores certain things from the previous. I'm not mad about it.
I get that and for me personnally it's not a problem, since I haven't watched it that much those past few years.
I'm just afraid the fans who were watching and loved Chadam or Philly or whatever will see the changes and think it's not their show anymore.
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Nov 12 2016, 06:57 PM
I also think it would be a mistake for SSM to completely ignore major storylines of the previous regimes. You don't have to go in their direction, but you should address it. Most viewers don't know about the writing regime change, therefore, they will be confused about the sudden change in storyline.

Also, I am glad Chelsea was not listed as a core character! I like MCE and Chelsea is okay, but the obsession that Pratt has with this character is mind boggling.

I also with SSM agree that art/Nazi storyline with Victoria sucked.
That SL with the art, was the worrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrst ever in the history of television. The only one that came close was when Ashley had something to do with a painting and the world's worst actor was involved, he was supposed to be an artist from spain? I can't remember his name off hand, but I think it started with an R.
Wait, I think it's Raphael?

What is it with stories about art on this show always going south? lol
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3WishGenie
Nov 12 2016, 11:53 PM
Anyhow, she has a long way to go to fix all the damage. Feb sweeps isnt that far off. It'll be refreshing to see real drama and not anything explode for a change.

Will they reveal any of Chloe's secrets?? Not one peep about either Bella or killing Adam.
Unfortunately, I think we'll be stuck with Chloe's secret until such time Adam re-appears. It's going to take them a long time to replace JH.
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Nov 13 2016, 11:00 AM
I haven't watched Y&R since March but I'm willing to give it another try. About the interview, I'm conflicted. I think you have to build on what you have instead of ignoring what the previous writers did. Because that's how you lose viewers too, when you take away the reasons some were watching and show no respect for them, when you tell them what they were watching doesn't matter anymore. But I did like the part when she said the show must be binge worthy, that she wants fans to watch the whole thing. I think soaps are not addictive and cohesive enough these days, that's why fans FF so much.
I thought it was weird she mentioned binging. I doubt that's what CBS wants. They want viewers to watch live or same day rec. (that's ratings we see). Of course, there's +7 days, but I don't think that's what the network wants). I think their goal should be - people can't wait to watch their episodes live or as soon as they have the possibility to do that. And then binge-rewatch because it was so good :D .
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