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Y&R: New Head Writer Sally Sussman Answers Burning Questions!
Topic Started: Nov 11 2016, 05:37 PM (5,944 Views)
Queen B
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I think the point she was making is that she wants Y&R to be so good that people would binge watch it.
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Nov 13 2016, 09:43 AM
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Nov 13 2016, 09:38 AM
3WishGenie
Nov 12 2016, 11:53 PM
Anyhow, she has a long way to go to fix all the damage. Feb sweeps isnt that far off. It'll be refreshing to see real drama and not anything explode for a change.

Will they reveal any of Chloe's secrets?? Not one peep about either Bella or killing Adam.
I seriously doubt that the new writers will address this so quickly.
these are the same writers who write Kay Chancellor pouring tea in January and in October she hasn't even put the tea-pot. Basically you can take a vacation and come back and Nikki, et al will all be wearing the same clothes.
Do you want your tea made properly or do you want to get it from a Keurig?
I am a fan of Keurig's tea.
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Queen B
Nov 13 2016, 01:18 PM
I think the point she was making is that she wants Y&R to be so good that people would binge watch it.
I actually only binge watch soaps when they are so boring that I don't care to watch them the same day or when I'm out of the country and there's no wifi.

Oh, and I like binge re-watching clips of some wrong unlikeable couples created at the expense of both characters.
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Nov 13 2016, 01:51 PM
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Nov 13 2016, 09:43 AM
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Nov 13 2016, 09:38 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepWill they reveal any of Chloe's secrets?? Not one peep about either Bella or killing Adam.
Do you want your tea made properly or do you want to get it from a Keurig?
I am a fan of Keurig's tea.
me too.
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Nov 13 2016, 02:10 PM
Queen B
Nov 13 2016, 01:18 PM
I think the point she was making is that she wants Y&R to be so good that people would binge watch it.
I actually only binge watch soaps when they are so boring that I don't care to watch them the same day or when I'm out of the country and there's no wifi.

Oh, and I like binge re-watching clips of some wrong unlikeable couples created at the expense of both characters.
I only binge watch when others stories are on that I am NOT interested in, then I can FF through them.
I spent a lot of time FF through Boretoria/Billy years and apparently I am going to be doing that again soon.
too bad for Jason T (Billy) because I actually like him.
I also did the same for Phick............could not stand Michelle Stafford.
thank goodness for the FF
Edited by metitle, Nov 13 2016, 02:20 PM.
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Nov 12 2016, 11:53 PM
Anyhow, she has a long way to go to fix all the damage. Feb sweeps isnt that far off. It'll be refreshing to see real drama and not anything explode for a change.

Will they reveal any of Chloe's secrets?? Not one peep about either Bella or killing Adam.
They'll have a huge Valentine's Day celebration with Phack, Villy, Lane and Nictor holding their hands and smiling shily at each other.
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Nov 13 2016, 02:22 PM
3WishGenie
Nov 12 2016, 11:53 PM
Anyhow, she has a long way to go to fix all the damage. Feb sweeps isnt that far off. It'll be refreshing to see real drama and not anything explode for a change.

Will they reveal any of Chloe's secrets?? Not one peep about either Bella or killing Adam.
They'll have a huge Valentine's Day celebration with Phack, Villy, Lane and Nictor holding their hands and smiling shily at each other.
oh noooooooooooooooo........................
dont even think it because they will do it.
If that is what is coming, I will definitely skip that episode.
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2 things I didn't like about the interview which is that she uses Villy in the same sentence as Shick and those two couples cannot be compared. Nick and Sharon are a supercouple, there's a reason they keep coming back to eachother. The other thing is that Nick will remain Christians dad. Those 2 things I can live with though simply because everything else she said is 100% on point. I honestly doubt that she's going to keep Billy and Victoria together though, I just can't for the life of me understand why any writer could see them as this great love and she'll come to her senses just wait and see.
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The other thing is, SSM also mentions that she thinks Victor is the only man that worked for Ashley but I don't see anyone saying that means she's automatically going to end up with Victor. I think people have just been too conditioned to think that Billy and Victoria are never going to end but these are completely new writers now, who knows what's in store.
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Nov 13 2016, 04:23 PM
The other thing is, SSM also mentions that she thinks Victor is the only man that worked for Ashley but I don't see anyone saying that means she's automatically going to end up with Victor. I think people have just been too conditioned to think that Billy and Victoria are never going to end but these are completely new writers now, who knows what's in store.
I don't know whether it's about new scenes or the old ones but:

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metitle
Nov 13 2016, 02:23 PM
thepadange
Nov 13 2016, 02:22 PM
3WishGenie
Nov 12 2016, 11:53 PM
Anyhow, she has a long way to go to fix all the damage. Feb sweeps isnt that far off. It'll be refreshing to see real drama and not anything explode for a change.

Will they reveal any of Chloe's secrets?? Not one peep about either Bella or killing Adam.
They'll have a huge Valentine's Day celebration with Phack, Villy, Lane and Nictor holding their hands and smiling shily at each other.
oh noooooooooooooooo........................
dont even think it because they will do it.
If that is what is coming, I will definitely skip that episode.
The image of that :shithitfan:

I'm with you. I'll be binge watching something else.
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Queen B
Nov 13 2016, 01:18 PM
I think the point she was making is that she wants Y&R to be so good that people would binge watch it.
I don't think that term quite fits with Soap Operas. Netflix, Hulu, and primetime shows? Sure. But not daily soaps. That desire to tune in every weekday to see what happens next is more accurate.

I was like that when Phyllis and Billy started as a tag-team duo against Victor and then later when they became romantic, I couldn't wait for the next episode to come on. It was surprising for me because I haven't been invested in Y&R in a long time. In fact, I was just watching out of habit which I feel like a lot of people tend to do now with Soaps.

SSM may be trying to bring that excitement back for everyone - to which I say, hallelujah - but I have to admit I'm going to be disappointed if she removes Billy and Phyllis from each other's orbit. They don't have to be romantic but platonic like Michael and Phyllis. The actors have such a genuinely great and playful chemistry it would be terrible to waste it.

The other stuff, I totally get not bringing up Christians paternity right now. I was hoping they wouldn't, They never let good story beats stew and mature anymore. The writers throw all their cards on the table at once and then move on. It's annoying and almost all the soaps are doing this. I would kill for a story or character beat that is allowed to remain on canvas for more than 6 months.
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Nov 14 2016, 04:24 AM
Queen B
Nov 13 2016, 01:18 PM
I think the point she was making is that she wants Y&R to be so good that people would binge watch it.
I don't think that term quite fits with Soap Operas. Netflix, Hulu, and primetime shows? Sure. But not daily soaps. That desire to tune in every weekday to see what happens next is more accurate.

I was like that when Phyllis and Billy started as a tag-team duo against Victor and then later when they became romantic, I couldn't wait for the next episode to come on. It was surprising for me because I haven't been invested in Y&R in a long time. In fact, I was just watching out of habit which I feel like a lot of people tend to do now with Soaps.

SSM may be trying to bring that excitement back for everyone - to which I say, hallelujah - but I have to admit I'm going to be disappointed if she removes Billy and Phyllis from each other's orbit. They don't have to be romantic but platonic like Michael and Phyllis. The actors have such a genuinely great and playful chemistry it would be terrible to waste it.

The other stuff, I totally get not bringing up Christians paternity right now. I was hoping they wouldn't, They never let good story beats stew and mature anymore. The writers throw all their cards on the table at once and then move on. It's annoying and almost all the soaps are doing this. I would kill for a story or character beat that is allowed to remain on canvas for more than 6 months.
Well said. I agree except for the platonic part. I think they shouldn't waste GT and JT romantic chemistry, especially as they don't have any other new fresh couples with chemistry even remotely similar to theirs or any other couples for that matter.
I see a pretty heavy fan reaction on SM about the SSM Philly comment (maybe it's because I participate in it, IDK). I hope it makes them think twice before shooting themselves in the foot.
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To thepadange, continuing our conversation from the Days social media thread.

I agree with you about the biased way Michael Logan was asking the questions.
For instance, he didn't ask what was going to happen to the Billy & Phyllis relationship. He flat out said and I quote:
"The Billy & Phyllis hookup left both characters highly unsympathetic. There's no reason to give a damn about
either one", end of quote. Maybe it was purposely done to see/hear reactions from the viewers, I don't know...

Anyhow, this is SSM's first interview and I don't think that everything she said is necessarily set in stone.
I also do not believe that she's the only one making the decisions(story-wise). If you recall awhile back,
Angelica McDaniel(Head of CBS Daytime) sent a tweet(can't find it now) with a picture entitled "new writers
first meeting". Sitting at that table were SSM, Kay Alden, Mal Young, Steve Kent(from Sony) and Angelica(CBS).
Their top priority for now, is probably to restore some of the damage that was done to the show and give it back its
original family feel and character-driven storylines and I'm OK with that. Maybe some of them even like the"Philly" dynamic,
but it was put on hold for now...who knows? They'll probably have to re-adjust as they go along.
I'm willing to give them that time.
Edited by HollyGolightly, Nov 14 2016, 05:44 PM.
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Yea, I had more of an issue with how some of the questions were loaded than I did the actual answers from SSM. It's just a weird and pretty unprofessional way to hold an interview.
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Nov 14 2016, 08:43 AM
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Nov 14 2016, 04:24 AM
Queen B
Nov 13 2016, 01:18 PM
I think the point she was making is that she wants Y&R to be so good that people would binge watch it.
I don't think that term quite fits with Soap Operas. Netflix, Hulu, and primetime shows? Sure. But not daily soaps. That desire to tune in every weekday to see what happens next is more accurate.

I was like that when Phyllis and Billy started as a tag-team duo against Victor and then later when they became romantic, I couldn't wait for the next episode to come on. It was surprising for me because I haven't been invested in Y&R in a long time. In fact, I was just watching out of habit which I feel like a lot of people tend to do now with Soaps.

SSM may be trying to bring that excitement back for everyone - to which I say, hallelujah - but I have to admit I'm going to be disappointed if she removes Billy and Phyllis from each other's orbit. They don't have to be romantic but platonic like Michael and Phyllis. The actors have such a genuinely great and playful chemistry it would be terrible to waste it.

The other stuff, I totally get not bringing up Christians paternity right now. I was hoping they wouldn't, They never let good story beats stew and mature anymore. The writers throw all their cards on the table at once and then move on. It's annoying and almost all the soaps are doing this. I would kill for a story or character beat that is allowed to remain on canvas for more than 6 months.
Well said. I agree except for the platonic part. I think they shouldn't waste GT and JT romantic chemistry, especially as they don't have any other new fresh couples with chemistry even remotely similar to theirs or any other couples for that matter.
I see a pretty heavy fan reaction on SM about the SSM Philly comment (maybe it's because I participate in it, IDK). I hope it makes them think twice before shooting themselves in the foot.
Well, romantic Philly is preferential but I would settle for them being great friends too. I feel like very few characters have actual non-family friendships these days.


As for the reaction to the SSM philly comment, I've seen some negative reactions from people who aren't into philly as a couple but still liked their interactions; which goes back to what I was getting at in my other posts. People respond to great chemistry even if they're not necessarily into a particular romantic pairing.

Don't re-bury your gold nugget in the far out hopes of finding a gold bar. :shrug:
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Transferring part of my tweet from Days section.

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To be fair IMO it was Logan who was 98% responsible for the dismissive tone of the interview. His leading on questions had nothing to do with journalistic neutrality.
I wanted to make that comment on his site but then decided to tweet some not so very nice words to him but haven't yet. LOL

SS of course could have stopped him and answered more neutrally but she just went along. Maybe they're friends and she was relaxed and talking to him like a friend. :shrug:

Re: the audience's reaction. Theoretically it could be possible they wanted it. And got :lol: . But what she said about "wrong to have them be in love" is actually the reason why we see the love/feelings part neglected on-screen. There has to be some true in it. The interesting thing is Sony and, especially CBS were here for the original story, they must have greenlighted it. I doubt JFP and Pratt could do it without their permission. I wonder what happened in the process. What/who changed CBS's position?

Another thing that kinda scared me is that Sally went to message boards to read comments. You must have some message board experience to be able to interpret trends there. Because it's not as simple as it seems. Most comments on message boards are negative in general (like 80% or something like that). But does it mean we think the shows are so bad? It doesn't. When we like something we say it several times and it's enough. Or we don't even have to come to a message board, we are just happy. But when we don't like or hate something we say it over and over and over again. And then come back for more rounds of the same. Because it's human psychology, people like to unburden themselves.
When you go to a message board and it's new to you you'll think that everything is horrible. Imagine she went to SOC and read some posts about the show and, for example, Philly :blulaugh: , it really could have looked like the show is 100% destroyed and Philly are the worst thing that ever happened :blulaugh: . But these things are said about almost anything. As much as they'll try to do their best I'm pretty sure in 3-6 months people will complain about their work too. That's how we roll lol.
IMO the worst sign about a show or a story is when nobody is talking about it. It means nobody cares/watches LOL.
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HollyGolightly
Nov 14 2016, 05:42 PM
To thepadange, continuing our conversation from the Days social media thread.

I agree with you about the biased way Michael Logan was asking the questions.
For instance, he didn't ask what was going to happen to the Billy & Phyllis relationship. He flat out said and I quote:
"The Billy & Phyllis hookup left both characters highly unsympathetic. There's no reason to give a damn about
either one", end of quote. Maybe it was purposely done to see/hear reactions from the viewers, I don't know...

Anyhow, this is SSM's first interview and I don't think that everything she said is necessarily set in stone.
I also do not believe that she's the only one making the decisions(story-wise). If you recall awhile back,
Angelica McDaniel(Head of CBS Daytime) sent a tweet(can't find it now) with a picture entitled "new writers
first meeting". Sitting at that table were SSM, Kay Alden, Mal Young, Steve Kent(from Sony) and Angelica(CBS).
Their top priority for now, is probably to restore some of the damage that was done to the show and give it back its
original family feel and character-driven storylines and I'm OK with that. Maybe some of them even like the"Philly" dynamic,
but it was put on hold for now...who knows? They'll probably have to re-adjust as they go along.
I'm willing to give them that time.
It's Michael Logan. He only likes the vets and he is biased towards Stafford and Miller. I don't think he has any taste for Tognoni and Thompson in these roles. I think he has insinuated that in the past. Maybe SSM agrees with him. Who knows. She seemed to play along in the bitching session which is basically what this interview was. Not that she didn't make any good points. I think she did in terms of what the show should be. Something that you watch as a whole and not just for specific characters or couples which we have been conditioned to do for a long time. It'll just take some getting used to. Maybe after Mal and Angelica shows her the comparison of Philly and Villy scenes, she will wake up and smell the coffee!
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I don't think SSM is new to reading message boards. Fans used to complain about Bill Bell's writing and the state of the show.
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Nov 14 2016, 05:42 PM
To thepadange, continuing our conversation from the Days social media thread.

I agree with you about the biased way Michael Logan was asking the questions.
For instance, he didn't ask what was going to happen to the Billy & Phyllis relationship. He flat out said and I quote:
"The Billy & Phyllis hookup left both characters highly unsympathetic. There's no reason to give a damn about
either one", end of quote. Maybe it was purposely done to see/hear reactions from the viewers, I don't know...

Anyhow, this is SSM's first interview and I don't think that everything she said is necessarily set in stone.
I also do not believe that she's the only one making the decisions(story-wise). If you recall awhile back,
Angelica McDaniel(Head of CBS Daytime) sent a tweet(can't find it now) with a picture entitled "new writers
first meeting". Sitting at that table were SSM, Kay Alden, Mal Young, Steve Kent(from Sony) and Angelica(CBS).
Their top priority for now, is probably to restore some of the damage that was done to the show and give it back its
original family feel and character-driven storylines and I'm OK with that. Maybe some of them even like the"Philly" dynamic,
but it was put on hold for now...who knows? They'll probably have to re-adjust as they go along.
I'm willing to give them that time.
Oh, I don't think, everything is set in stone. It never is. If I thought it was I wouldn't bother to tweet them lol. What bothers me right now is that they're trying to ignore a very important part of the story onscreen and I feel like they want to insult my inteligence, and I don't like it LOL. Even if Philly will be back down the road I still feel like they're destroying my favorite storyline. And for what - to show Phyllis using blackmail to be in Jack's orbit :shrug: . Not worth it.

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