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Y&R: New Head Writer Sally Sussman Answers Burning Questions!
Topic Started: Nov 11 2016, 05:37 PM (5,942 Views)
Sammie Jo
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3WishGenie
Nov 17 2016, 06:59 PM
thepadange
Nov 17 2016, 06:34 PM
How come PB didn't get a similar clause lol? I would be angry lol.
I wonder what they will do with him now. He's spent so long chasing Victor, do we go back to kumbaya Jack of the last 2 yrs? One of many characters that need direction.
I liked "Jack" better when he was "Marco". I think maybe Phyliss did too. :P
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I've been watching soaps for a LONG time and I've seen many of my favorite characters/couples come and go, BUT
somehow I always managed to get hooked/interested in other storylines. And that's the way it goes with soaps!
Am I disappointed that Philly "seems" to be dead for now? Yes! But that's only because nothing else interesting is
playing right now on Y&R.
If SSM can bring some balance with more than ONE interesting storyline, I say, bring it on!
Right now, what we are seeing is the tail-end of Pratt's material and frankly, it's boring.
Even the Sully/Christian reveal was disappointing.
So, I am keeping an open mind to what the new regime will bring.
I'll bitch later, LOL!
Edited by HollyGolightly, Nov 17 2016, 09:37 PM.
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thepadange
Nov 17 2016, 06:34 PM
How come PB didn't get a similar clause lol? I would be angry lol.
You have to keep in mind he was a recast of a very very popular actor so he was at a disadvantage for years. I will say, the show is fine when they don't focus on Victor vs Jack. That way when they DO feature the feud it's more exciting.
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HollyGolightly
Nov 17 2016, 09:32 PM
I've been watching soaps for a LONG time and I've seen many of my favorite characters/couples come and go, BUT
somehow I always managed to get hooked/interested in other storylines. And that's the way it goes with soaps!
Am I disappointed that Philly "seems" to be dead for now? Yes! But that's only because nothing else interesting is
playing right now on Y&R.
If SSM can bring some balance with more than ONE interesting storyline, I say, bring it on!
Right now, what we are seeing is the tail-end of Pratt's material and frankly, it's boring.
Even the Sully/Christian reveal was disappointing.
So, I am keeping an open mind to what the new regime will bring.
I'll bitch later, LOL!
So true. I think part of the reason why people are so upset over Philly is because it was one of the ONLY bright spots from Pratts tenure, so people held onto that. If Sally can make a great show again than I'm show people will forget about them.
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Reading this after these past few months is so surreal. All that bravado Sally displayed in the interview but all her ideas were flops.

Lol, and it's obvious tptb stepped in when her ideas weren't cutting it. Grandpa Victor, Victoria & Reed, Jack not fighting Victor. Sally was on the right track but heading in the wrong direction.
Edited by Panda Panda, May 13 2017, 12:46 AM.
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May 13 2017, 12:27 AM
Reading this after these past few months is so surreal. All that bravado Sally displayed in the interview but all her ideas were flops.

Lol, and it's obvious tptb stepped in when her ideas weren't cutting it. Grandpa Victor, Victoria & Reed, Jack not fighting Victor. Sally was on the right track but heading in the wrong direction.
I thought she finally did a new interview LOL.

I don't have to read that interview again, I still remember almost everything she said back then.

Arrogance is not a good thing, especially when you are just starting.
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The biggest thing was the adam recast. We were told there would be none for awhile. I am not excited for his return but the fact they made the decision to bring him back shows how desperate they are. They won't even write properly for nick now so what happens when Adam is back.
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May 13 2017, 01:50 AM
Panda Panda
May 13 2017, 12:27 AM
Reading this after these past few months is so surreal. All that bravado Sally displayed in the interview but all her ideas were flops.

Lol, and it's obvious tptb stepped in when her ideas weren't cutting it. Grandpa Victor, Victoria & Reed, Jack not fighting Victor. Sally was on the right track but heading in the wrong direction.
I thought she finally did a new interview LOL.

I don't have to read that interview again, I still remember almost everything she said back then.

Arrogance is not a good thing, especially when you are just starting.

I never thought she was arrogant. At all. I thought she was just speaking the facts about the prior few years.
Edited by nananana7, May 13 2017, 02:15 PM.
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I think she was a bit arrogant in some parts relating to Y&R, HOWEVER, I think she was spot-on about the problems with the current soap industry and how Soaps are falling behind in a medium they made popular and viable. We don't see many people be so frank about exactly what's going wrong with soap operas nowadays. We usually get vague statements about how times have changed and the audience has changed too. But that has always been the case w/ soaps and it will always be the case. Soaps should be able to adapt to changes while still maintaining the integrity of what made them famous in the first place. SSM's comments were something that needed to be address frankly.
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Yeah I'm willing to admit I was wrong for putting so much faith into SS back then. I really thought she had what it takes based on her previous work in 2005 and beyond because I thought some of those ideas were GREAT but this time around her ideas have fallen flat. I think Kay Alden should be head writer with her.
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May 13 2017, 02:14 PM
thepadange
May 13 2017, 01:50 AM
Panda Panda
May 13 2017, 12:27 AM
Reading this after these past few months is so surreal. All that bravado Sally displayed in the interview but all her ideas were flops.

Lol, and it's obvious tptb stepped in when her ideas weren't cutting it. Grandpa Victor, Victoria & Reed, Jack not fighting Victor. Sally was on the right track but heading in the wrong direction.
I thought she finally did a new interview LOL.

I don't have to read that interview again, I still remember almost everything she said back then.

Arrogance is not a good thing, especially when you are just starting.

I never thought she was arrogant. At all. I thought she was just speaking the facts about the prior few years.
I don't want to read that interview again because it left a bad taste in my mouth back then. But I remember her and Logan making fun of her predecessors' work/plots. I call it arrogance. I might not be a fan of them either but I don't think it's a way to speak about your colleagues. I wonder how she would feel if the next new HW made fun of her stories (I want to write an example here, but no story comes to my mind and it's not a compliment), let's say Scott's rescue or Victor's book.
Btw, will they continue with whatever was it between Scott and Christine?

I think soaps just have to write interesting stories. Every time they say they'll do something new - it backfires. I don't think casting a bunch of teens (which they typically see as a solution to attract younger audience) is what will help them either.
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IMO, Pratt (prior to JFP leaving) was a better HW than Sally. I completely concede the point that his work was total shit when Jill left, but overall, his plots were more entertaining.
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May 14 2017, 01:37 AM
IMO, Pratt (prior to JFP leaving) was a better HW than Sally. I completely concede the point that his work was total shit when Jill left, but overall, his plots were more entertaining.
I think they dropped a lot of Pratt's ideas when JFP left. (Now we hear about Chance etc). Mal had a different vision - lighter stuff. They couldn't work together.
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Pratt's show was ten million times better than Sussman's.
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I think one of the current regime's problems is their incapability to write A level storylines. And when they try to pass their C-D storylines for A s/l it isn't working. Victoria is their most featured character and I can't say any of her stories were/are A stories.
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May 14 2017, 04:26 AM
I think one of the current regime's problems is their incapability to write A level storylines. And when they try to pass their C-D storylines for A s/l it isn't working. Victoria is their most featured character and I can't say any of her stories were/are A stories.
that's because they put too much on a WEAK actress.
I bet if Gina T (current Phyllis) was cast as Victoria.......Yeah I said Victoria......she would have played Victoria and NOT Boretoria.


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Pratt's writing was so manic it made you want to rip your hair out. SS is the polar opposite. It makes you indifferent to the show. Pick your poison I guess lol.

As it was said before what Sally does is give us these mini plots and it feels like there is no progression to the end game....if there even is one. The A story that she has is Chloe/Chelsea but she insists on making it a C story because this has to be the Victoria and Billy show. That story actually had the ratings going upwards but they screw it up and continue to shovel B&S down our throats.
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metitle
May 14 2017, 10:24 AM
thepadange
May 14 2017, 04:26 AM
I think one of the current regime's problems is their incapability to write A level storylines. And when they try to pass their C-D storylines for A s/l it isn't working. Victoria is their most featured character and I can't say any of her stories were/are A stories.
that's because they put too much on a WEAK actress.
I bet if Gina T (current Phyllis) was cast as Victoria.......Yeah I said Victoria......she would have played Victoria and NOT Boretoria.


That would've worked. She would be paired with JT no problem :popcorn:
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May 14 2017, 10:45 AM
Pratt's writing was so manic it made you want to rip your hair out. SS is the polar opposite. It makes you indifferent to the show. Pick your poison I guess lol.

As it was said before what Sally does is give us these mini plots and it feels like there is no progression to the end game....if there even is one. The A story that she has is Chloe/Chelsea but she insists on making it a C story because this has to be the Victoria and Billy show. That story actually had the ratings going upwards but they screw it up and continue to shovel B&S down our throats.
Chelsea 's s/l was still Pratt's stuff. I am surprised SSM touched it at all.

We may have liked or hated Pratt/JPF but their ratings were high. That I have to give them.
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Pratt made a complete mess of some his storylines but at least he HAD storylines. I thought the show was relatively focused during his run and often rather compelling. He's definitely more plot driven and goes for shock a lot of the time, but at least the show was overall more entertaining and watchable during his run. At least it was for me. I have to FF thru SO much of Sussman's work.

I don't want him back, though. He ran out of steam during the last part of his run. I don't want Sussman to continue. I don't want another hack like Dena Higley or Josh Griffith to come on. My vote would be for Gary Tomlin. I know many probably consider him a hack as well, but I thought his work on DAYS the last time around was great.
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