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Y&R: New Head Writer Sally Sussman Answers Burning Questions!
Topic Started: Nov 11 2016, 05:37 PM (5,939 Views)
Sammie Jo
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LPS
May 15 2017, 04:32 PM
Sammie Jo
May 15 2017, 09:41 AM
LPS
May 14 2017, 07:03 PM
Also, Sally is stuck in the past and that not good. It's like she hasn't realized Y&R and soaps have changed in 20 years. For instance, this amazingly fucking slow pace may have worked in the 90's, but it doesn't work well in contemporary TV.

Also, this might be an unpopular opinion, but Dina won't help the ratings. She was on Y&R over 30 years ago. No one cares (and I'm using "no one" as a figure of speech). Sally needs to enter the 21st century and not ignore the changes that's occurred on Y&R. Also, it f Sally wanted Dina back, why didn't she do it like Patty's return (not necessarily crazy but more dramatic).
You say she's stuck in the past, but when a writer ignores past history, people are all , oh, they're ignoring the history. :shrug:
If you noticed, I didn't say Y&R should ignore its history and I made it a point not to. It's called balance and Sally doesn't have it. She's the first to try going balls to the walls with the older characters and it ain't working. She needs to find a balance.
That was MY opinion, not directed toward anyone in particular, but you did say " Sally is stuck in the past and that not good"
The past is history.
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May 15 2017, 04:27 PM
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May 15 2017, 12:53 PM
thepadange
May 15 2017, 11:21 AM
Of course our personal enjoyment of the show doesn't depend on ratings.
But they are very important in the sense that the show's existence depends on them, their budget, production values etc. I actually don't care which headwriter will write but I wish for this show to survive. So if it's not going well they need to do some changes.
Everyone has different taste and obviously there will be a group of people who love the show right now. But the ratings are indicating that there is a greater number of people who are no longer enjoying the show. I don't see the point of getting Sussman fired. There's no one else they could hire. They need a co-headwriter or at the very least get a different Story Consultant because Kay Alden doesn't seem to be cutting the mustard.
Exactly! Yeah, there will be some who enjoy Sally's writing, but the ratings suggest more are bored by it. In the business world, larger ratings are what matters.

And these aren't small dips in the ratings either.
Other writers before her have gotten the boot with better numbers. She hasn't held a writing position in a decade before taking this job. Maybe it was unrealistic to expect her to work magic when she's been out of the game for that long and it explains the outdated nature of her ideas. The two big reveals she's sitting on are Pratt storylines. She hasn't come up with any of her own. And now we're moving into a bunch of asinine triangles that really aren't needed. It's made the characters vapid without much substance. I hope she gets help and soon!!!
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I think Mal's contract is soon up for renewal. Didn't he start in June with first episodes airing in July.
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May 15 2017, 10:53 AM
I'll take a "boring" show that makes sense over a plot-driven show that destroys every last character on it any day.
I don't know why it has to be one or the other. I don't know why it's impossible to find a writer that can balance plot-driven and character-driven writing.

You have to have to have that balance as a writer, because otherwise, your material is going to be bad.

Is it REALLY that hard to find a writer that can produce compelling material that is grounded in character-driven story while still having thrilling and intricate plots? I just don't get it.

You need both. Sussman has proven that she can't do this.
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Apparently, those type of writers are going extinct. All the soaps have been suffering from the same type of unbalanced writing for the past decade.
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May 16 2017, 12:13 AM
Apparently, those type of writers are going extinct. All the soaps have been suffering from the same type of unbalanced writing for the past decade.
They are all writing fan fiction instead :teehee:
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May 16 2017, 12:04 AM
DrewHamilton
May 15 2017, 10:53 AM
I'll take a "boring" show that makes sense over a plot-driven show that destroys every last character on it any day.
I don't know why it has to be one or the other. I don't know why it's impossible to find a writer that can balance plot-driven and character-driven writing.

You have to have to have that balance as a writer, because otherwise, your material is going to be bad.

Is it REALLY that hard to find a writer that can produce compelling material that is grounded in character-driven story while still having thrilling and intricate plots? I just don't get it.

You need both. Sussman has proven that she can't do this.
all those writers have successful careers writing prime-time or Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon shows. I dont believe for a minute that Sussman hadn't tried to hawk her writings to networks over the last ten years when she wasn't writing soaps.

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