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Jan 11 2017, 07:24 PM
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Those Dylan scenes would be much better if SB tried to play Derek differently than he plays Dylan.
Yeah, he should be playing Derek as dynamic, charismatic, and suave, and I'm just not seeing that at all today (Weds US show). Dylan looked hot, it's not cheating and drugging if it's your undercover job... good thing she wasn't fugly. ;) :P
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Jan 11 2017, 07:44 PM
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Amelia Heinle and Crystal Chappell as lesbian lovers? That actually might be good. Too bad it's too late to make Victoria a lesbian now.
It's never too late to make her bi. But they won't. This show is too conservative.
of course......TPTB are a bunch of wuss MAB was the only one with balls. She had two gay characters, Rafe and PC3 ...and Adam for a brief moment :blulaugh:
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Jan 11 2017, 07:46 PM
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I think Reed might be gay. I hope he is.
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Jan 11 2017, 07:47 PM
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Amelia Heinle and Crystal Chappell as lesbian lovers? That actually might be good. Too bad it's too late to make Victoria a lesbian now.
It's never too late. Women are coming out of the closet after raising families and being married for decades. :shrug: It's like that movie Carol and that took place in the 50s lol
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Jan 11 2017, 10:31 PM
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its like TPTB dont know what to do with Pathetic-Nikk/Victurd......its awful. :shame: He was supposed to take her on a cruise around the World when she recovered from her MS, but they only took a cruise around the Newman Compound. :-/ Posted Image
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Jan 12 2017, 12:38 AM
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I think Reed might be gay. I've been wondering about that.
The casting call described the character as "sensitive". Victoria asked if he would be on the Genoa City High baseball team, and he replied with something like "No Mom, I haven't done that since I was a little kid, you don't know me at all."
In real life, a person of any gender or sexual orientation could be "sensitive". In real life, a person of any gender or sexual orientation could dislike sports. And furthermore, the character of Reed is a musician, and many musicians are "sensitive" types who aren't into sports.
But showbiz sometimes uses these descriptors as ways to hint that a character is gay.
There was a casting call for a "sensitive teen boy" on Days of Our Lives to begin airing in January 2016. When he began appearing, we learned that he was gay. (This was the character Henry who appeared intermittently for several months, and then it was said that Henry had left town to go to college.)
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Jan 12 2017, 12:38 AM
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Those Dylan scenes would be much better if SB tried to play Derek differently than he plays Dylan. SBu seems to have two emotions: Jason with a sweater vest and Jason in the leather jacket. I swear to God I thought I had turned on GH by accident,but then I saw that weird outfit Abby was on and knew I was safe. Lol
Speaking of Abby,this was the first time I enjoyed her since she was a kid. Dare I say there was a bit of the old Victoria with her desire to work at Newman?
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Jan 12 2017, 01:15 AM
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To touch back on villy. The pairing sucked the life out of Billy Miller and he had to do all of the heavy lifting in their scenes. It was cringe worthy to see MAB and Co. doing some weird 'Father Knows Best' inspired stories;that's why Victoria's house looks the way it does. I'm sure BM liked that he got so much screen time because he was ALWAYS fighting with Victor during that,but I always thought he was phoning it in towards the end of his stay on Y&R and I thought part of that had to do with the Villy pairing completely neutering the Billy character.
My favorite Billy pairing was with Lily. I'll give MAB that The Lily/cane/billy/Chloe quad was good soap ,but I didn't like how in the end they just ended lily/billy and put her back with cane far too fast. Then we got the stupid I'm Phillip, wait no I'm not but did it because I had no family,Oh wait no I have a mom ,dad and twin brother...etc. I think I read the story was cut short and was supposed to have gone on longer. I believe this was when MAB had JScott Hamner pushed out;if rumors were true he was a big lane fan and the OG story was for Lily/Billy to get all the way to engagement before it was revealed Delia was Billy's. To me,lily and Billy in a pairing made sense due to their family history's. The Abbotts and Winters have a connection that goes all the way back to John and Mamie .
And if I'm to be completely honest, EH really does not have romantic chemistry with anyone. The only pairing that worked of hers was when she played Maggie on AMC and they paired her with Eden Riegel's Bianca . EH's Chloe has good friendship chemistry, but lacks in the romantic department.
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Jan 12 2017, 03:44 AM
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What did Griffith do with Lane when he came back in 2012-2013? I can't remember.
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Jan 12 2017, 07:14 AM
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Those Victor/Nick/Nikki scenes (a while ago) annoyed me so much: "Nikki: It's a text from Nicholas. He and Phyllis are having a surprise birthday party for summer, and we are invited. But only if you promise me you'll be on your best behavior. Victor: Well, that, I cannot promise, but I will try my hardest.""Nick: Ah, well, thanks for coming. And, thanks for keeping the peace, too. Getting along with Phyllis." (from transcripts) Why not ask her how she feels? He wasn't a victim. She was. UGH.
I think they're putting the Marco caper in a tomb. Phyliss is going to be asking Victor to help Lauren, I'd bet on it, and it will be like nothing ever happened. I hope Victor isn't the one who will be asked for help this time ;) .
Speaking of Marco s/l, I think it's worth noting how different and more sensitive (in a good sense) is the society to issues like these now than it was a couple of decades ago. I'm re-watching Sunset Beach and they had a twin of one character take over his brother's life; he slept with his brother's fiance withouth her knowledge that he was a different person. So when it was revealed he was a twin, they never addressed it as a rape/assault. She apologized to her real fiance for sleeping with his brother, and they never explored it. They probably intended the same on Y&R but the reaction from the audience and press was too heavy to ignore, so they revisited it and had this go to court.
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Jan 12 2017, 09:01 AM
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What did Griffith do with Lane when he came back in 2012-2013? I can't remember. If memory serves me right he was there when they were created and that was before MAB . According to one of the reasons he was let go, he was changing MAB'S stories. It's similar to what happened on DAYS where someone altered scripts. At that time both he and MAB worked together but it was speculated one of the things he altered was how the quad story ended. He was a lane fan and that could explain why the story ended so soon and both were just slapped back together with Cane as if nothing had ever happened. They were rushed together and then just removed from that story. It was weird and a shame imo. CK has good chemistry with bothe actors and that could have driven story for years. Granted by then I was off the lane train,and wanted a refund lol ,but still.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep"Nikki: It's a text from Nicholas. He and Phyllis are having a surprise birthday party for summer, and we are invited. But only if you promise me you'll be on your best behavior. Victor: Well, that, I cannot promise, but I will try my hardest."
"Nick: Ah, well, thanks for coming. And, thanks for keeping the peace, too. Getting along with Phyllis." (from transcripts)
Why not ask her how she feels? He wasn't a victim. She was. UGH.
I think they're putting the Marco caper in a tomb. Phyliss is going to be asking Victor to help Lauren, I'd bet on it, and it will be like nothing ever happened.
I hope Victor isn't the one who will be asked for help this time ;) . Speaking of Marco s/l, I think it's worth noting how different and more sensitive (in a good sense) is the society to issues like these now than it was a couple of decades ago. I'm re-watching Sunset Beach and they had a twin of one character take over his brother's life; he slept with his brother's fiance withouth her knowledge that he was a different person. So when it was revealed he was a twin, they never addressed it as a rape/assault. She apologized to her real fiance for sleeping with his brother, and they never explored it. They probably intended the same on Y&R but the reaction from the audience and press was too heavy to ignore, so they revisited it and had this go to court. I think it was also harder because now we have the Internet. Now you can get instant backlash for certain things.
I also think there is a double standard depending on the gender of the character. A few years ago MAB had patty cakes take Emily's place just like Marco did to Phyllis. I remember everyone said how stupid jack was to not notice it was a different woman;which I do agree with. But nobody said it was assault and seemed to act like Jack had it coming. Very different reaction indeed.
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What did Griffith do with Lane when he came back in 2012-2013? I can't remember.
If memory serves me right he was there when they were created and that was before MAB . According to one of the reasons he was let go, he was changing MAB'S stories. It's similar to what happened on DAYS where someone altered scripts. At that time both he and MAB worked together but it was speculated one of the things he altered was how the quad story ended. He was a lane fan and that could explain why the story ended so soon and both were just slapped back together with Cane as if nothing had ever happened. They were rushed together and then just removed from that story. It was weird and a shame imo. CK has good chemistry with bothe actors and that could have driven story for years. Granted by then I was off the lane train,and wanted a refund lol ,but still. You know what? I have to correct myself. Griffith was there during the creation of lane, but it was Scott Hamner who was let go during MAB'S first run due to him altering her stories and he was a big lane fan. Sorry,it's been so long I got the people,and regimes, confused.
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What did Griffith do with Lane when he came back in 2012-2013? I can't remember.
If memory serves me right he was there when they were created and that was before MAB . According to one of the reasons he was let go, he was changing MAB'S stories. It's similar to what happened on DAYS where someone altered scripts. At that time both he and MAB worked together but it was speculated one of the things he altered was how the quad story ended. He was a lane fan and that could explain why the story ended so soon and both were just slapped back together with Cane as if nothing had ever happened. They were rushed together and then just removed from that story. It was weird and a shame imo. CK has good chemistry with bothe actors and that could have driven story for years. Granted by then I was off the lane train,and wanted a refund lol ,but still.
You know what? I have to correct myself. Griffith was there during the creation of lane, but it was Scott Hamner who was let go during MAB'S first run due to him altering her stories and he was a big lane fan. Sorry,it's been so long I got the people,and regimes, confused. :) Not that it matters but maybe it was still Griffith (his 1st run). I started watching during MAB, so I am not very familiar with pre-MAB and Griffith's 1st run, but I think Hamner was writing with MAB through the end of her run and a week or so with Griffith. Or maybe it was the co-EP- Paul Rauch? (just a guess - I have no idea).
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep"Nikki: It's a text from Nicholas. He and Phyllis are having a surprise birthday party for summer, and we are invited. But only if you promise me you'll be on your best behavior. Victor: Well, that, I cannot promise, but I will try my hardest."
"Nick: Ah, well, thanks for coming. And, thanks for keeping the peace, too. Getting along with Phyllis."
I hope Victor isn't the one who will be asked for help this time ;) . Speaking of Marco s/l, I think it's worth noting how different and more sensitive (in a good sense) is the society to issues like these now than it was a couple of decades ago. I'm re-watching Sunset Beach and they had a twin of one character take over his brother's life; he slept with his brother's fiance withouth her knowledge that he was a different person. So when it was revealed he was a twin, they never addressed it as a rape/assault. She apologized to her real fiance for sleeping with his brother, and they never explored it. They probably intended the same on Y&R but the reaction from the audience and press was too heavy to ignore, so they revisited it and had this go to court.
I think it was also harder because now we have the Internet. Now you can get instant backlash for certain things. I also think there is a double standard depending on the gender of the character. A few years ago MAB had patty cakes take Emily's place just like Marco did to Phyllis. I remember everyone said how stupid jack was to not notice it was a different woman;which I do agree with. But nobody said it was assault and seemed to act like Jack had it coming. Very different reaction indeed. Just like they now never mention that Chelsea actually raped Billy (and the show never treated her actions as such). She drugged Billy and had sex with him which is a drug facilitated rape. Also a double standard.
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I think Reed might be gay.
I've been wondering about that. The casting call described the character as "sensitive". Victoria asked if he would be on the Genoa City High baseball team, and he replied with something like "No Mom, I haven't done that since I was a little kid, you don't know me at all." In real life, a person of any gender or sexual orientation could be "sensitive". In real life, a person of any gender or sexual orientation could dislike sports. And furthermore, the character of Reed is a musician, and many musicians are "sensitive" types who aren't into sports. But showbiz sometimes uses these descriptors as ways to hint that a character is gay. There was a casting call for a "sensitive teen boy" on Days of Our Lives to begin airing in January 2016. When he began appearing, we learned that he was gay. (This was the character Henry who appeared intermittently for several months, and then it was said that Henry had left town to go to college.) The same thought passed through my head, and if he is gay, I think he will confide in Billy first, which of course, will piss off Victoria.
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of course......TPTB are a bunch of wuss
MAB was the only one with balls. She had two gay characters, Rafe and PC3 ...and Adam for a brief moment :blulaugh: Don't forget the caterer, he was a hoot.
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To touch back on villy. The pairing sucked the life out of Billy Miller and he had to do all of the heavy lifting in their scenes. It was cringe worthy to see MAB and Co. doing some weird 'Father Knows Best' inspired stories;that's why Victoria's house looks the way it does. I'm sure BM liked that he got so much screen time because he was ALWAYS fighting with Victor during that,but I always thought he was phoning it in towards the end of his stay on Y&R and I thought part of that had to do with the Villy pairing completely neutering the Billy character.
My favorite Billy pairing was with Lily. I'll give MAB that The Lily/cane/billy/Chloe quad was good soap ,but I didn't like how in the end they just ended lily/billy and put her back with cane far too fast. Then we got the stupid I'm Phillip, wait no I'm not but did it because I had no family,Oh wait no I have a mom ,dad and twin brother...etc. I think I read the story was cut short and was supposed to have gone on longer. I believe this was when MAB had JScott Hamner pushed out;if rumors were true he was a big lane fan and the OG story was for Lily/Billy to get all the way to engagement before it was revealed Delia was Billy's. To me,lily and Billy in a pairing made sense due to their family history's. The Abbotts and Winters have a connection that goes all the way back to John and Mamie .
And if I'm to be completely honest, EH really does not have romantic chemistry with anyone. The only pairing that worked of hers was when she played Maggie on AMC and they paired her with Eden Riegel's Bianca . EH's Chloe has good friendship chemistry, but lacks in the romantic department. Omg, billy with lily, how did you remember that, that was sooooo long ago. lol That was when he was on a online dating site as LIAM?
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep"Nikki: It's a text from Nicholas. He and Phyllis are having a surprise birthday party for summer, and we are invited. But only if you promise me you'll be on your best behavior. Victor: Well, that, I cannot promise, but I will try my hardest."
"Nick: Ah, well, thanks for coming. And, thanks for keeping the peace, too. Getting along with Phyllis." (from transcripts)
Why not ask her how she feels? He wasn't a victim. She was. UGH.
I think they're putting the Marco caper in a tomb. Phyliss is going to be asking Victor to help Lauren, I'd bet on it, and it will be like nothing ever happened.
I hope Victor isn't the one who will be asked for help this time ;) . Speaking of Marco s/l, I think it's worth noting how different and more sensitive (in a good sense) is the society to issues like these now than it was a couple of decades ago. I'm re-watching Sunset Beach and they had a twin of one character take over his brother's life; he slept with his brother's fiance withouth her knowledge that he was a different person. So when it was revealed he was a twin, they never addressed it as a rape/assault. She apologized to her real fiance for sleeping with his brother, and they never explored it. They probably intended the same on Y&R but the reaction from the audience and press was too heavy to ignore, so they revisited it and had this go to court. Remember Blade and his evil twin sleeping with Ashley?
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep"Nikki: It's a text from Nicholas. He and Phyllis are having a surprise birthday party for summer, and we are invited. But only if you promise me you'll be on your best behavior. Victor: Well, that, I cannot promise, but I will try my hardest."
"Nick: Ah, well, thanks for coming. And, thanks for keeping the peace, too. Getting along with Phyllis."
I hope Victor isn't the one who will be asked for help this time ;) . Speaking of Marco s/l, I think it's worth noting how different and more sensitive (in a good sense) is the society to issues like these now than it was a couple of decades ago. I'm re-watching Sunset Beach and they had a twin of one character take over his brother's life; he slept with his brother's fiance withouth her knowledge that he was a different person. So when it was revealed he was a twin, they never addressed it as a rape/assault. She apologized to her real fiance for sleeping with his brother, and they never explored it. They probably intended the same on Y&R but the reaction from the audience and press was too heavy to ignore, so they revisited it and had this go to court.
Remember Blade and his evil twin sleeping with Ashley? Those soaps... How did they handle the situation? Sources say Ashley was happy with nu"Blad".
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