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Y&R: February Discussion
Topic Started: Jan 29 2017, 08:41 PM (16,850 Views)
Panda Panda
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Thoughts on the storylines so far:

I'm disliking the Victoria/Reed stuff because it's so predictable and uninteresting.

The Hevon/Buzz storyline is moving a little slower than I would like it to but I'm enjoying it.

I haven't cared about Lily/Cane for years. Their last interesting story was the Joe affair.

Gloria is a bit much but I like the show going a more comedic route than it has been. I would have preferred her in Clovin's storyline but they don't even have one without the Bella paternity questions.

I like the Fenmores storyline with Lauren, I'm just glad we finally have a business storyline that doesn't involve Jabot/Newman Enterprises fighting it out. Although I'm totally disappointed in them not allowing Eric to invest in Fenmores. The missed crossover potential!

All the Dylan/Sharon/Nick/Nikki/Faith stuff is just leftovers that need to be thrown away already.

Going forward:

I would like to see more philly (obviously) and Billy striking out on his own for real this time. I really really want him to join or start some third party business that competes with Jabot and Newman. It'll help get him from under Jack and Victor's shadow a little.

Phyllis is doing okay for now but I would like to see her getting back to her bad ass ways and also finding a new place to live.

Victoria getting her act together and growing up. I would love to see her enjoy Reed being with her for more than 5 minutes per episode before they fight again. I would also love if Reed just got over himself and the stupidity of his teenage "rebellion". If he would stop being dumb for 10 minutes then he would see that everyone would dote on him and spoil him if he behaved in public. Or at least not get caught doing stupid crap.

Someone needs to put their foot down regarding Faith. I know she has a screwed up family but she's just acting like a spoiled and disrespectful brat and the adults, other than Noah, refuse to do anything about it. Either get her a child therapist or send her to "boarding school". This back and forth with her can't last.

Chick friendship but no romance (yet). They both just lost their spouses and they both have toddlers to deal with. Let them bond as friends for a good year (or 3) before throwing them together in a romantic relationship.

Sharon. I basically want the same thing for Sharon as I do Billy. They both need to distance themselves from the Newman/Abbotts for a while and build relationships outside of those families.

Where in the hell is Tracy? Summer and Kyle can stay gone. Abby can leave too. She doesn't really add anything to the show.
Edited by Panda Panda, Feb 7 2017, 12:41 AM.
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3WishGenie
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#TeamXander

I am not looking forward to Billy having to take orders from Boretoria for a living ugh ugh ugh.
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I don't have a problem with any of the current stories. I even think this Gloria (and Glack) is (are) very entertaining to watch.
I still think they have to up the stakes. They seem to want to write business stories (Fenmore's, now they'll start B&S war). At this point I don't know what they can do with Fenmore's more - Ashley/Phyllis, Lauren/Jack war? Are those storylines(Fenmore's, B&S) done to provide angst and reunite Phack and Villy? (Because it seems they don't involve any other personal drama, oops, forgot Ashvi). If that's what they are going for it is hugely disappointing. IMO it would show they have no idea what this show needs to survive. They need to attract new viewers and only fresh stuff (fresh stories, fresh couples, which btw doesn't mean all of them have to be young) could win them new eyeballs. If they continue with the same old.... :shame: .
Where are their new romances? Ashvi? Continuation of Chick? Who else?
Edited by thepadange, Feb 7 2017, 02:37 AM.
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3WishGenie
Feb 7 2017, 02:20 AM
I am not looking forward to Billy having to take orders from Boretoria for a living ugh ugh ugh.
Neither am I. So now we know Victoria and Cane want to buy B&S for themselves. We have no idea about Billy. But in the true soap opera fashion it has to be a third party who actually buys the company - Billy or someone else entirely 😁. (I haven't watched the CND episode yet lol).
Edited by thepadange, Feb 7 2017, 02:35 AM.
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nananana7
Feb 6 2017, 08:46 PM
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Feb 6 2017, 01:45 PM

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Feb 6 2017, 12:13 PM
Sally said she wants to be current, yet she has Gloria saying she was sexually harassed by Jack when she wasn't. In these times, does she really want to show a woman lying about being sexually harassed?

Actually that is current and it should be shown that women and men can and do lie about these matters. We should not train everyone to believe a someone because it seems heart felt...We should teach critical thinking. Many women lie about being sexually harassed and raped. All you need is 1 person to claim sexual assault and about 50 will follow with NO one truly checking the veracity or validity or claims. Common thinking, which is stupid-naive thinking is that it has to be true if more than 1 person says it...That many people cannot make it up right? Wrong!

I don't have statistics or proof handy at the moment; but it is my understanding that most claims of sexual harassment are true.
Of course lies can happen in any situation; but it's rare.

The issue is that for centuries, people didn't believe women who made such claims. The woman was perceived by society as always being at fault.

There is a subconscious bias in much of society, even nowadays, that tends to disbelieve claims of sexual harassment.

I understand that the show is going for comedy.
I understand your point about using critical thinking.

But I think the show could address this issue in a subtle way ...
Some ideas ...

Maybe if Mariah learns that Gloria is a scam artist, then maybe .... Mariah could think about the issues involved and do a PSA on GC Buzz about supporting women in these situations. It would make sense Mariah to do that on GC Buzz so it wouldn't detract from the flow of Y&R as a whole.

Or ... maybe Ashley could find out about Gloria's scam and then Ashley could confront Gloria and say "how dare you fake harassment when so many woman really are harrassed?".

Any of these ideas could take up only a minute or two on the show ... It doesn't have to be a big thing ... but I think it's appropriate in this day and age.
Worse than the fake sexual harassment suits are women who lie in court and then after the guy spends years in prison, they confess it was all bullshit.
You can always tell the fake harassment suits, the women and their attys always disappear after making a lot of noise.
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nananana7
Feb 6 2017, 08:46 PM
faith101
Feb 6 2017, 01:45 PM

camera shy
Feb 6 2017, 12:13 PM
Sally said she wants to be current, yet she has Gloria saying she was sexually harassed by Jack when she wasn't. In these times, does she really want to show a woman lying about being sexually harassed?

Actually that is current and it should be shown that women and men can and do lie about these matters. We should not train everyone to believe a someone because it seems heart felt...We should teach critical thinking. Many women lie about being sexually harassed and raped. All you need is 1 person to claim sexual assault and about 50 will follow with NO one truly checking the veracity or validity or claims. Common thinking, which is stupid-naive thinking is that it has to be true if more than 1 person says it...That many people cannot make it up right? Wrong!

I don't have statistics or proof handy at the moment; but it is my understanding that most claims of sexual harassment are true.
Of course lies can happen in any situation; but it's rare.

The issue is that for centuries, people didn't believe women who made such claims. The woman was perceived by society as always being at fault.

There is a subconscious bias in much of society, even nowadays, that tends to disbelieve claims of sexual harassment.

I understand that the show is going for comedy.
I understand your point about using critical thinking.

But I think the show could address this issue in a subtle way ...
Some ideas ...

Maybe if Mariah learns that Gloria is a scam artist, then maybe .... Mariah could think about the issues involved and do a PSA on GC Buzz about supporting women in these situations. It would make sense Mariah to do that on GC Buzz so it wouldn't detract from the flow of Y&R as a whole.

Or ... maybe Ashley could find out about Gloria's scam and then Ashley could confront Gloria and say "how dare you fake harassment when so many woman really are harrassed?".

Any of these ideas could take up only a minute or two on the show ... It doesn't have to be a big thing ... but I think it's appropriate in this day and age.

They did something like that today! Hilary said it!

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^ I was just coming here to post that! I'm watching now and saw that!

Hillary said to Jack:
"I have done some horrible things and I've told some terrible lies,
but I swear, I could kill Gloria for what she did.
Lying about being harassed -- it betrays every single person who's actually been harassed,
not to mention trying to ruin a good man."

Perfect!
Edited by nananana7, Feb 7 2017, 12:22 PM.
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I like Hilary and Jack talking but the episode is pretty boring so far.

The highlight of the episode - Nick saying to Victoria someone has to teach Reed how to get porn for free :blulaugh:
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Devon is such a fucking dick to Hilary. Sending her a cheque like that as if she is for sale. He's really became a fucking an arrogant POS. I loved when Hilary ripped up the cheque and threw it in his face.

Sharon and Faith scenes were cute. She reminds me of my mom. Maybe that's why I've always loved Sharon. She's a damaged person, and she knows it wouldn't be right for Faith to come home right now.

I LOL'd when Victoria said to Nick "Everyone can see the chemistry between you and Chelsea". I mean, really? Like who?? Cause I don't see it.

So Gloria is the new secretary at Jabot? I guess she finally got what she wanted. Her and Jack will be fighting non stop everyday at work now though. Lol
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oh gosh, I really hate when the show opens with Boretoria.
its always a sign that the Bore-meter will be trending seriously high.
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seriously, when did Sharon & Chelsea became BFFs?
I guess I must have been asleep.
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well the extra playing the new hostess looks familiar.
looks like the woman from the RHOBH.
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really Bitchlary?
she is acting like a saint these days.
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what the hell is Chloe wearing?
is that an Amish dress?

hahaha........the look on Gloria's face when Chloe showed her outstanding household bills was freaking hilarious.
Edited by metitle, Feb 7 2017, 12:36 PM.
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Oh there's Glack in the second half of the show! I like it! :D
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Lily/40-Watt should be asking the woman questions.......at least Lily is giving real situations and now 40-Watt thinks Lily is sabotaging the interview.
doesn't 40-Watt know that the perspective replacement will face?
40-Wat is really dunce.
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thepadange
Feb 7 2017, 12:38 PM
Oh there's Glack in the second half of the show! I like it! :D
thank goodness.
because I was ready to mute until Gloria and her one-liners was on-screen.
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I am not really interested in the Boretoria/Reed story.
nor am interesting in Greasy-Dickolas and his pathetic life.
Boretoria........STFU!!!
stop with the fucking whining.
Edited by metitle, Feb 7 2017, 12:43 PM.
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really, if TPTB wanted Chick to be interesting...........dont use Boretoria as a propping mouth piece.
no one takes that heifer seriously.
Edited by metitle, Feb 7 2017, 12:45 PM.
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I dont know how Sharon keeps up with the many questions from different people about Dylan.
how does she manage to keep the answers straight.
at least she is doing a good job in evading many of the questions.
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