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Y&R: May Discussion
Topic Started: May 1 2017, 03:19 AM (15,346 Views)
3WishGenie
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#TeamXander

sensgirl
May 22 2017, 03:33 PM
Panda Panda
May 22 2017, 01:00 PM
I think Ashley has every single right to despise Dina for what she did to the Abbott family and for what she put Ashley through especially. They're just being annoyingly vague about it all and over simplifying it. They should be dragging up every dirty detail of Dina's abandonment and lies.
ICAM! Ashley has even more reason than Jack and Traci to despise Dina. I wouldn't blame Ashley if she never forgave her mother.
Until she learns that she is dying.
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Hmmmm....Even Jamey G. @ DC is b*tching about Y&R. According to him, it is the recent turn of events that has caused him to change his tune (Julie Chen).

B*tch please, Sally's reign has been one big snore fest. It didn't start recently. I have a feeling he's kinda embarrassed because for years he has been begging for Sally's return to Y&R and her return has been a let down. Sh*t happens and sometimes we make wrong calls. Nothin' wrong with that.
Edited by LPS, May 22 2017, 08:18 PM.
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A fine example of "Be careful what you wish for."
Edited by Panda Panda, May 22 2017, 08:16 PM.
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3WishGenie
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Exactly. May has been no different than Feb (which was at that point without "interference"). It's the same stories, with the same characters on daily as 3 months ago. And they wonder why there is no improvement.
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May 22 2017, 08:15 PM
A fine example of "Be careful what you wish for."
IMO, there is no shame in originally wanting Sally to be HW. She worked with Bill Bell and had soap experience. Those are good indicators of potential success. However, his relentless defense of her despite the tanking ratings and saying "everything is okay" kinda bugged me.

However, some of her previously leaked scripts a few years ago should have sent signals. I remember they had to do with Cassandra (they lady who kidnapped Brad). Why would anyone want to watch a storyline from thirty years ago? It would work if the storyline was as big as Kay accidentally killing Philip Chancellor, but the Cassandra storyline was never that important.
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May 22 2017, 06:44 PM
metitle
May 22 2017, 12:24 PM
Victurd's statement to Pathetic-Nikki......."no one will ever love abuse you as I do"
really, Jack loved her. So did David Chow, and so many others.
There I fixed it
hahaha........

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May 22 2017, 08:22 PM
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May 22 2017, 08:15 PM
A fine example of "Be careful what you wish for."
IMO, there is no shame in originally wanting Sally to be HW. She worked with Bill Bell and had soap experience. Those are good indicators of potential success. However, his relentless defense of her despite the tanking ratings and saying "everything is okay" kinda bugged me.

However, some of her previously leaked scripts a few years ago should have sent signals. I remember they had to do with Cassandra (they lady who kidnapped Brad). Why would anyone want to watch a storyline from thirty years ago? It would work if the storyline was as big as Kay accidentally killing Philip Chancellor, but the Cassandra storyline was never that important.
Sussman stories from the beginning is similar to watching paint dry.
I said it before, not everyone who worked with Bell are good writers and Sally is a definite exam.

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I can't believe how bad Sally has been, to be honest. I would have not expected it in a million years. I was excited when I heard she had been named HW. I remember liking her work on DAYS in the late 90s.

I've not only been really disappointed in her work, but have been genuinely shocked by the low quality of it.
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I guess I'm in the minority because even though there are tons of flaws in her writing, I still like her much more than Pratt. Pratts Y&R was honestly the worst. Every character was interchangeable and that alone made it dull for me. At least Sally is writing the characters as individuals.. but I agree with a lot of the things people complain about here when it comes to certain things she's screwing up on.
Edited by Queen B, May 23 2017, 01:11 AM.
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May 23 2017, 01:11 AM
I guess I'm in the minority because even though there are tons of flaws in her writing, I still like her much more than Pratt. Pratts Y&R was honestly the worst. Every character was interchangeable and that alone made it dull for me. At least Sally is writing the characters as individuals.. but I agree with a lot of the things people complain about here when it comes to certain things she's screwing up on.
Pratt with Jill was hands down better than Sally, IMO. After Jill left, yeah, it gets dicey.

I thought MAB's first year as HW with Josh Griffith was by far the best, but afterwards, I would say she was by far the worst with LML in 2nd.

Sally is just different. She's not writing characters in a way so that it paints them in a corner like previously bad HWs, but Y&R is sooooo uneventful and boring with her (I've never seen a soap this boring-for real).

IMO, Josh Griffith is the best most recent writer at Y&R (he was slow but decent).
Edited by LPS, May 23 2017, 04:22 AM.
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May 22 2017, 08:22 PM
However, some of her previously leaked scripts a few years ago should have sent signals. I remember they had to do with Cassandra (they lady who kidnapped Brad). Why would anyone want to watch a storyline from thirty years ago? It would work if the storyline was as big as Kay accidentally killing Philip Chancellor, but the Cassandra storyline was never that important.
I'd endure watching a Cassandra related story if it brought Brad back to GC as an alive human being.
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May 23 2017, 06:14 AM
LPS
May 22 2017, 08:22 PM
However, some of her previously leaked scripts a few years ago should have sent signals. I remember they had to do with Cassandra (they lady who kidnapped Brad). Why would anyone want to watch a storyline from thirty years ago? It would work if the storyline was as big as Kay accidentally killing Philip Chancellor, but the Cassandra storyline was never that important.
I'd endure watching a Cassandra related story if it brought Brad back to GC as an alive human being.
instead he is over at B&B professing his love to the Walking Mattress who loves no one but herself.
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I am sure Sussman has others around providing story ideas.
however what she has taken from them and written herself is downright DULL.
Yesterday's ratings report showed Y&R is on the verge of going below a 3.0
at least, her previous predecessor (Pratt/Jill) managed to hold their own.
Sussman ratings are going in the same direction as Drucilla.
Edited by metitle, May 23 2017, 08:48 AM.
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May 22 2017, 06:44 PM
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May 22 2017, 12:24 PM
Victurd's statement to Pathetic-Nikki......."no one will ever love abuse you as I do"
really, Jack loved her. So did David Chow, and so many others.
There I fixed it
Yeah poor nikki, she's so abused, Victor would jump into a pit of rattlesnakes for her if she was in danger, that nasty man, how dare he?
No one is abused unless they allow it. She has plenty of money, she can leave him anytime, but she doesn't, she can't be too abused.
He has never physically abused her, the only verbal abuse has been when they're in a fight, and that happens with many couples, it's called the "heat of the moment" and that has happened very rarely.
As disloyal as Nikki is to Victor, always taking everyone else's side except his and running to Jack anytime they're at odds, she knows that will piss Victor off, she's not that stupid, blabbing secrets to Jack over the years, that's why Victor keep her out of the loop most of the time, he might as well go on GC buzz and tell his plans as tell Nikki, same results, everyone will know.
Let's not forget she testified against him in court, when a spouse is not legally obliged to, she couldn't wait.
She's the abuser, not Victor.
Does Victor come up with some totally evil schemes? Hell yeah, but they have nothing to do with how he treats Nikki.
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3WishGenie
May 22 2017, 06:46 PM
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May 22 2017, 03:33 PM
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May 22 2017, 01:00 PM
I think Ashley has every single right to despise Dina for what she did to the Abbott family and for what she put Ashley through especially. They're just being annoyingly vague about it all and over simplifying it. They should be dragging up every dirty detail of Dina's abandonment and lies.
ICAM! Ashley has even more reason than Jack and Traci to despise Dina. I wouldn't blame Ashley if she never forgave her mother.
Until she learns that she is dying.
I've been thinking the same thing, that maybe she is dying, Graham might be her personal physician. :shrug:
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May 22 2017, 01:15 PM
One of Ashley's suitors used to be involved with Dina. Another suitor turned out to be Dina's stepson from her new marriage.

There's also the fact that Dina was proud of her affair with Brent Davis and the entire reveal caused Ashley to develop traumatic amnesia (or whatever it's called) where she literally forgot who she was for months and almost got kidnapped.

Then years later her marriage to Cole was destroyed because she tried to help her half-brother, Rafael Davis.
As I remember, Jack blackmailed Ashley out of being president of Jabot with the truth about John not being her father. She had some kind of break down because of it and ended up in a mental institution. I'm not sure how Jack found out about it. But I do remember those crazy inmates stealing Ashley food lol and her doctor falling in love with her. I loved the actor who played her doctor, he used to play the role of Travis on Search For Tomorrow. Whew! that's going back some years.
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well Cane is definitely over his head in scheming.
he is falling fast and it will be a dreadful fall the truth comes to light.
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oh jeez, DickSea.......this coupling needs to END!
Chelsea definitely can do better than Greasy-Dickolas.
besides has he parked the kid (Christian).
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Well here is Dina visiting Victurd.
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oh crap, Ashley, you are almost 60 years old and Dina probably have one foot in the grave.
so calm the fuck down for a minute.
so Dina has done you wrong, stop carrying so much anger, its not good for your health.
Show Dina that you have moved on and happy without her........instead being angry and pissy all the time.
Edited by metitle, May 23 2017, 11:36 AM.
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