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Spoilers for Week of September 11
Topic Started: Aug 28 2017, 07:14 PM (25,079 Views)
Loving80sDays


JoeBucs32
Sep 5 2017, 09:13 AM
lysie
Sep 5 2017, 08:21 AM
JoeBucs32
Sep 4 2017, 08:45 PM
The doppleganger storyline just keeps getting dumber and dumber -- I hope this isn't a sign of things to come from Ron. Please tell me he can do better.
I'm meh on the doppelgänger aspect of it, but I don't think it's dumb.
For me, one of the dumbest aspects of it is the stupid the characters around the dopplegangers are acting.

It make the characters appear to have lost what little brains they have -- and is mind-numbing for the viewing audience too.
Exactly!!!


Not even remotely of interest, at least Sam and her attitude towards Marlena made a bit of sense. This just doesn't help any of the characters who are encountering Hattie & Bonnie. Well except for Paul and GOD helps us we have to make Paul look good at all costs!!!
Edited by Loving80sDays, Sep 5 2017, 05:00 PM.
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Lifetime943


I know that I am just wasting my time complaining...BUT...it really bothers me that Paul is the child that finds and rescues John & Marlena. Paul, the made up son of John, who's conception came at a time that honestly does not jive with some of the best John & Marlena storyline and for me is so contrived. It couldn't be Carrie, the girl whose mother wasn't around and Marlena loved to death, the little girl that John raised during his time as Roman.
It couldn't be one of the twinners, you know Marlena's biological children & the kids that John also helped raise when he was Roman & continued to love when he knew he wasn't.
It couldn't be Brady, John & Isabella's boy, whom Marlena stepped up and loved and raised.
Or perhaps even the one and only biological child that John & Marlena actually share, Belle, the daughter they both adore..... Nope ...it's Paul..

The show doesn't care enough about Carrie & Belle to actually have them on the canvas.
Brady and Eric are to busy pleasing Nicole Walker and dealing with her worries to truly care.
Sami might care if she was around, but her return couldn't or wasn't incorporated in her mother's problems..

Nope....after decades of rich history which included Carrie, Sami, Eric, Brady & Belle, none of them will save Marlena & John, of course it will be Paul
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Heatherlynn


Their family will all be together soon enough and I thought hope finds them not their youngest son
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Loving80sDays
Sep 5 2017, 04:58 PM
JoeBucs32
Sep 5 2017, 09:13 AM
lysie
Sep 5 2017, 08:21 AM

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For me, one of the dumbest aspects of it is the stupid the characters around the dopplegangers are acting.

It make the characters appear to have lost what little brains they have -- and is mind-numbing for the viewing audience too.
Exactly!!!


Not even remotely of interest, at least Sam and her attitude towards Marlena made a bit of sense. This just doesn't help any of the characters who are encountering Hattie & Bonnie. Well except for Paul and GOD helps us we have to make Paul look good at all costs!!!
I don't know why you're singling out Paul. He was fooled by Hattie for about the same amount of time as John so far which was 1 day. Justin has been around Bonnie even more and he is still completely in the dark about her which is totally ridiculous. She made a huge mistake in front him today (referred to Alex as Anjelica's son instead of her own) and he didn't even bat an eye.
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Heatherlynn


I would pick Paul over brady Atleast Paul is loyal to their family
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I looked through the thread and didn't see the buzzworthy spoilers. I didn't find it on their website or twitter either.
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Lifetime943


I have never liked dual roles on soaps, ever. I get why the actor or actress likes them, it gives them range and something different todo. But I don't like Adrienne/Bonnie or Marlena/Hatie. If I like a charcter, which I do love Marlena, I would much rather the actual character that I love have more storyline than have it be split with a different version. If I am indifferent to the charcter or don't like them to begin with (which is how I feel about Adrienne) than I have no desire at all to see more than one version of them..

Wasn't a fan of the multiple Rafe's, not a fan of Hope/Gina, not a fan of John/father John or Robo John. Did not enjoy all the versions of Kristen
GH. Hated Bill E /Luke....hate the Anna/Alex stuff..
AMC hated Stuart/Adam
OLTL. Never liked Vicky/Nicky and hated Jessica/Tess.

I really don't understand why writers think the majority of viewers actually enjoy this stuff.
It's seems like more a means to write them out of character and not worry about it.

Please..I doubt the audience had a desire for Marlena showing interest in Roman ever again, yet as a writer RC did it anyway via Hattie.
If people weren't into Lucas & Adrienne then Lucas & Bonnie is a mess.
If I want Adrienne & Justin, then I have no desire to see Justin & Bonnie and hardly any Adrienne airtime.
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Heatherlynn


Lifetime943
Sep 6 2017, 11:19 AM
I have never liked dual roles on soaps, ever. I get why the actor or actress likes them, it gives them range and something different todo. But I don't like Adrienne/Bonnie or Marlena/Hatie. If I like a charcter, which I do love Marlena, I would much rather the actual character that I love have more storyline than have it be split with a different version. If I am indifferent to the charcter or don't like them to begin with (which is how I feel about Adrienne) than I have no desire at all to see more than one version of them..

Wasn't a fan of the multiple Rafe's, not a fan of Hope/Gina, not a fan of John/father John or Robo John. Did not enjoy all the versions of Kristen
GH. Hated Bill E /Luke....hate the Anna/Alex stuff..
AMC hated Stuart/Adam
OLTL. Never liked Vicky/Nicky and hated Jessica/Tess.

I really don't understand why writers think the majority of viewers actually enjoy this stuff.
It's seems like more a means to write them out of character and not worry about it.

Please..I doubt the audience had a desire for Marlena showing interest in Roman ever again, yet as a writer RC did it anyway via Hattie.
If people weren't into Lucas & Adrienne then Lucas & Bonnie is a mess.
If I want Adrienne & Justin, then I have no desire to see Justin & Bonnie and hardly any Adrienne airtime.
None of these other characters on other shows you are talking about are dopple gangers though gh Luke and bill were cousins Adam and Stuart on amc were twins staurt was a beautiful character .oltl viki and Jess alters were due to abuse .you can't compare with the exception of bill eckert the characters and storylines these shows created were powerful imo
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Heatherlynn


On amc Stuart was the first major character ever with developmental disability Viki and Jess tackled sexual abuse and mental illness those are serious issues
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Sep 5 2017, 04:16 PM
Lovejm
Sep 5 2017, 03:23 PM
sitrian
Sep 5 2017, 03:18 PM

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Idk if they think of it as an insult or much of anything now. SN and MBE sign their posts #patchandkaylaforever. So you'd think they'd use Steve instead if it was an issue
Stephen Nichols genuinely doesn't care. Heck he often prints "Patch" underneath his signature when he signs autographs.

But it was a plot point that Kayla cared in the 80s so it would be strange if Kayla stopped caring now.

This is open to interpretation, obviously.

But I feel like it meant something to Steve that Kayla cared but that Steve doesn't care that much. But again that part is my interpretation.
I don't really care what the actors think about their characters when it comes to things like this...

It's more important what is logical for the character to think about it given their history, circumstances etc.

eg AS can tell me being a mum is the most important thing to Sami but I just don't buy it based on the characters actions on the show.
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Lifetime943
Sep 6 2017, 11:19 AM
I have never liked dual roles on soaps, ever. I get why the actor or actress likes them, it gives them range and something different todo. But I don't like Adrienne/Bonnie or Marlena/Hatie. If I like a charcter, which I do love Marlena, I would much rather the actual character that I love have more storyline than have it be split with a different version. If I am indifferent to the charcter or don't like them to begin with (which is how I feel about Adrienne) than I have no desire at all to see more than one version of them..

Wasn't a fan of the multiple Rafe's, not a fan of Hope/Gina, not a fan of John/father John or Robo John. Did not enjoy all the versions of Kristen
GH. Hated Bill E /Luke....hate the Anna/Alex stuff..
AMC hated Stuart/Adam
OLTL. Never liked Vicky/Nicky and hated Jessica/Tess.

I really don't understand why writers think the majority of viewers actually enjoy this stuff.
It's seems like more a means to write them out of character and not worry about it.

Please..I doubt the audience had a desire for Marlena showing interest in Roman ever again, yet as a writer RC did it anyway via Hattie.
If people weren't into Lucas & Adrienne then Lucas & Bonnie is a mess.
If I want Adrienne & Justin, then I have no desire to see Justin & Bonnie and hardly any Adrienne airtime.
Fake Rafe AKA Arnold Finnegan was the most enjoyable GG has ever been on the show.. IMO
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Heatherlynn
Sep 6 2017, 03:19 PM
Lifetime943
Sep 6 2017, 11:19 AM
I have never liked dual roles on soaps, ever. I get why the actor or actress likes them, it gives them range and something different todo. But I don't like Adrienne/Bonnie or Marlena/Hatie. If I like a charcter, which I do love Marlena, I would much rather the actual character that I love have more storyline than have it be split with a different version. If I am indifferent to the charcter or don't like them to begin with (which is how I feel about Adrienne) than I have no desire at all to see more than one version of them..

Wasn't a fan of the multiple Rafe's, not a fan of Hope/Gina, not a fan of John/father John or Robo John. Did not enjoy all the versions of Kristen
GH. Hated Bill E /Luke....hate the Anna/Alex stuff..
AMC hated Stuart/Adam
OLTL. Never liked Vicky/Nicky and hated Jessica/Tess.

I really don't understand why writers think the majority of viewers actually enjoy this stuff.
It's seems like more a means to write them out of character and not worry about it.

Please..I doubt the audience had a desire for Marlena showing interest in Roman ever again, yet as a writer RC did it anyway via Hattie.
If people weren't into Lucas & Adrienne then Lucas & Bonnie is a mess.
If I want Adrienne & Justin, then I have no desire to see Justin & Bonnie and hardly any Adrienne airtime.
None of these other characters on other shows you are talking about are dopple gangers though gh Luke and bill were cousins Adam and Stuart on amc were twins staurt was a beautiful character .oltl viki and Jess alters were due to abuse .you can't compare with the exception of bill eckert the characters and storylines these shows created were powerful imo
I don't like actors or actresses playing dual roles, even via split personality. It's just not my think. So if it's the same actor or actress playing a lookalike, dual personality or a twin I just don't like it. That's just me... Amnesia doesn't bother me as much.
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Lifetime943
Sep 5 2017, 08:07 PM
I know that I am just wasting my time complaining...BUT...it really bothers me that Paul is the child that finds and rescues John & Marlena. Paul, the made up son of John, who's conception came at a time that honestly does not jive with some of the best John & Marlena storyline and for me is so contrived. It couldn't be Carrie, the girl whose mother wasn't around and Marlena loved to death, the little girl that John raised during his time as Roman.
It couldn't be one of the twinners, you know Marlena's biological children & the kids that John also helped raise when he was Roman & continued to love when he knew he wasn't.
It couldn't be Brady, John & Isabella's boy, whom Marlena stepped up and loved and raised.
Or perhaps even the one and only biological child that John & Marlena actually share, Belle, the daughter they both adore..... Nope ...it's Paul..

The show doesn't care enough about Carrie & Belle to actually have them on the canvas.
Brady and Eric are to busy pleasing Nicole Walker and dealing with her worries to truly care.
Sami might care if she was around, but her return couldn't or wasn't incorporated in her mother's problems..

Nope....after decades of rich history which included Carrie, Sami, Eric, Brady & Belle, none of them will save Marlena & John, of course it will be Paul
Lifetime, don't feel like you have to apologize for how you feel. Paul's contrived incorporation into J&M's family has always been utterly ridiculous to me. I'm not dissing CS because he really is a good actor, but I am so sick and tired of how noble and kind and saccharine and proper that they make the character of Paul. If someone approached this show on the surface without knowing the history, you would think that J&M only cared about Paul and to hell with all their other kids (aside from maybe Eric and Brady on occasion). It's too bad that Brady can't get his head out of his ass long enough to be the one to help find J&M and be the hero for his father and stepmother instead of being obsessed with Nicole.
Edited by truluvpassions07, Sep 6 2017, 10:48 PM.
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truluvpassions07
Sep 6 2017, 10:47 PM
Lifetime943
Sep 5 2017, 08:07 PM
I know that I am just wasting my time complaining...BUT...it really bothers me that Paul is the child that finds and rescues John & Marlena. Paul, the made up son of John, who's conception came at a time that honestly does not jive with some of the best John & Marlena storyline and for me is so contrived. It couldn't be Carrie, the girl whose mother wasn't around and Marlena loved to death, the little girl that John raised during his time as Roman.
It couldn't be one of the twinners, you know Marlena's biological children & the kids that John also helped raise when he was Roman & continued to love when he knew he wasn't.
It couldn't be Brady, John & Isabella's boy, whom Marlena stepped up and loved and raised.
Or perhaps even the one and only biological child that John & Marlena actually share, Belle, the daughter they both adore..... Nope ...it's Paul..

The show doesn't care enough about Carrie & Belle to actually have them on the canvas.
Brady and Eric are to busy pleasing Nicole Walker and dealing with her worries to truly care.
Sami might care if she was around, but her return couldn't or wasn't incorporated in her mother's problems..

Nope....after decades of rich history which included Carrie, Sami, Eric, Brady & Belle, none of them will save Marlena & John, of course it will be Paul
Lifetime, don't feel like you have to apologize for how you feel. Paul's contrived incorporation into J&M's family has always been utterly ridiculous to me. I'm not dissing CS because he really is a good actor, but I am so sick and tired of how noble and kind and saccharine and proper that they make the character of Paul. If someone approached this show on the surface without knowing the history, you would think that J&M only cared about Paul and to hell with all their other kids (aside from maybe Eric and Brady on occasion). It's too bad that Brady can't get his head out of his ass long enough to be the one to help find J&M and be the hero for his father and stepmother instead of being obsessed with Nicole.
The sad part about Brady is Marlena is his mother not step Mom he should be getting Eric and try to find them not be jelous of Eric
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Can't wait for T-Boz to be back on Days! I'm a major TLC fan so this is great news. Wonder what will Sheila be up to this time especially now since she's out of prison.
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Sep 7 2017, 12:12 PM
Can't wait for T-Boz to be back on Days! I'm a major TLC fan so this is great news. Wonder what will Sheila be up to this time especially now since she's out of prison.
She'll be "cleaning" up her act.
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Sep 7 2017, 12:21 PM
TTJessATWT
Sep 7 2017, 12:12 PM
Can't wait for T-Boz to be back on Days! I'm a major TLC fan so this is great news. Wonder what will Sheila be up to this time especially now since she's out of prison.
She'll be "cleaning" up her act.
Yeah I've noticed :D Hope she'll get to interact with some of the other characters too.
Edited by TTJessATWT, Sep 7 2017, 12:34 PM.
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lysie


OMG, they have such a good set up for a scrubs joke.
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Thank you JCP.

Did I read somewhere that Abe wants Roman to come back to Police Station?
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Bellarke <3

bygnedys
Sep 8 2017, 12:12 PM
Did I read somewhere that Abe wants Roman to come back to Police Station?
That'll suck. Roman is better off running the pub.

They should just hire a random dayplayer as Commissioner. It shouldn't be a corrupt criminal like Hope and Rafe.
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