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Yoryla
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Aug 31 2017, 04:18 PM
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- Aug 31 2017, 03:59 PM
I'm not quite sure Eileen or anyone else would confirm or deny she has stopped filming. I wouldn't be surprised to see her back before she even airs. Apparently she had said so in the latest Y&R fan event.
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Yoryla
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Aug 31 2017, 04:22 PM
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- Aug 31 2017, 12:49 AM
As much as I want Kristen back .. I really hope they don't do that . She's only on a few episodes and it would be ridiculous to bring her back with such a huge connection to the rest of the characters and get her off that quickly. And we all know if she's alive she won't stop until she gets her hands on Christopher .. uh I mean Tatter Tot. What are they going to do kill her off again? It would by silly. Be prepared for Susan and Sister Mary and it will be over before you know it. The whole problem I have is that she lied about having a hectic schedule with both soaps as her excuse for leaving RHBH. She was there two measly weeks while taping Y&R as boring Ashley. In reality she may have only filmed a couple days within the two weeks. I kind of agree, in the sense that while it would be great to see Kristen, I don't think they would bring her back for a few episodes. She is so integral to everything, she would need to be on screen at the least around three months.
Although I could see Ron doing it like so, that it would be Susan at first, but at the very end, as she is leaving town, she reveals to the audience alone that she was Kristen all along, and leave everyone hanging on when she would really return and if anyone would find out. Actually, that would be very much something Ron could do.
I don't think Eileen lied, though, I don't think she is in a position where she would have to. Besides, I think Bravo's Andy loves her, and while he has shaken things up before, I somehow don't see him firing Eileen.
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Aug 31 2017, 04:52 PM
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I don't know if Bravo fired her or not .. but she definitely lied about the "crazy" schedule at DOOL and Y&R. She was only doing both for two weeks so why didn't she just say because of family reasons or whatever I left. Why throw DOOL in the mix making people believe she is doing both shows for an extended period of time like she made it sound. So something happened she's not being truthful about but it has nothing to do with DOOL and the schedule there.
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Aug 31 2017, 05:01 PM
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Lucas was never homophobic but always worried about his son because of what he and Sami put will through
He was uncomfortable seeing his son with a guy when the time came. That's homophobia. That to me was fear for his son based on some bullying will and Sonny had gone through with some straight guys once I believe when they out in public .Lucas is a loving dad
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Aug 31 2017, 05:05 PM
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There's a difference between a parent seeing their child in a relationship their not used to and homophobia I think that word gets tossed around to much just like the word bully
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Aug 31 2017, 05:08 PM
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I think Lucas recognized himself he had an issue with his son being in relationship with a guy and that he had to work on it, he said he went to meetings with other parents of LGBT kids.
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Aug 31 2017, 05:16 PM
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There's a difference between a parent seeing their child in a relationship their not used to and homophobia I think that word gets tossed around to much just like the word bully That would make sense if Lucas had been uncomfortable with Will dating Gabi or Mia, but he wasn't.
I'm not using the word as a way to insult Lucas. The guy came around and was incredibly supportive. But what I saw was him uncomfortable seeing his son with a guy. That's homophobia. A miiiiiiild form of it, but that's what it was I saw
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Aug 31 2017, 05:18 PM
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He was uncomfortable seeing his son with a guy when the time came. That's homophobia.
That to me was fear for his son based on some bullying will and Sonny had gone through with some straight guys once I believe when they out in public .Lucas is a loving dad I'm not saying he isn't a loving dad. He was just one of those people that were fine if someone is gay until they see a same sex couple kissing. He got over it and got past it. He isn't a terrible person, lol
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Aug 31 2017, 07:21 PM
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- Aug 28 2017, 07:36 PM
I'm still terrified about what version of Sami comes back. If it's scheming Sami and she isn't blathering on about EJ and extolling his honor/virtue, I can put up with it. I still don't know if I can completely forgive her for only taking two seconds to sob over her now "not dead" son because she was propelled to go on some quest to chase a pipe dream in EJ's name.
If she storms in with Will in tow overjoyed and excited, then I will probably be excited to see her in that moment. I would love to have her help Lucas get himself back on track and read "Adrienne" the riot act and be an interloper between Rafe and Hope. GG needs out of that pairing, like forever ago. I've tried to like them together, but it's just not happening.
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Aug 31 2017, 07:27 PM
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- Aug 31 2017, 05:18 PM
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That to me was fear for his son based on some bullying will and Sonny had gone through with some straight guys once I believe when they out in public .Lucas is a loving dad
I'm not saying he isn't a loving dad. He was just one of those people that were fine if someone is gay until they see a same sex couple kissing. He got over it and got past it. He isn't a terrible person, lol Lucas definitely was lightweight homophobic when Will first came out. Yes, a lot of it was concern for Will's well being and what kind of life he would have, but he really made a concerted effort to grow, understand and get past his initial preconceived and backwards way of thinking. But that's one of the reasons that Lucas' character is so endearing to so many of us is because he has shown so much growth and evolution over the years and has always tried to grow beyond whatever shortcomings he has had. He is definitely a loving father and one of the more moral minded characters on the show by far.
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Aug 31 2017, 07:37 PM
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I wish I was excited about Will and Sami coming back but I am not.
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Aug 31 2017, 10:11 PM
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- laurondo
- Aug 29 2017, 01:49 AM
Gabi is only important because she's Arianna HORTON's mom. Otherwise lol, important my ass.
Lucas has a problem with Sonny moving on? Sonny has been dating Paul for how long now? He should've already had a problem if he was going to.
What exactly is a cops worst nightmare... (re: JJ) I can understand your perspective on Lucas and him just suddenly having a problem with Sonny and Paul. As we all know, there were so many beats that Dena missed that could have been played up and this was one of them. We've seen Kate take a little exception once and that's pretty much it. It would have made perfect sense months ago to have created this opposition and conflict, but I guess I'm at least grateful that they finally did it. It's about time someone stood up for Will's best interests and tried to add a little bit of perspective to the whole thing. That's why it bothered me when Kate basically got pissed for 2 seconds and then just glossed over it like the conversation didn't even happen and was just okay with it.
I personally like Gabi, but she has her moments when she tries my last nerve. I do agree with you that her being Ari's mom is a big reason why she's been able to retain some level of "importance".
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Aug 31 2017, 10:19 PM
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I'm not liking that Lucas has an issue with Paulson getting married. It reminds me when Will came out and started dating Sonny and they made Lucas not accepting it right away. I know that it's a plot point for WILL, but it's a bit late for them to have Lucas be vocal about Paul and Sonny when he never said anything against them and they have been dating for months. :rolleyes:
My memory of it was that Lucas was OK with Will being gay (under MarDar) and it was Sami who had the issue with it until EJ told her what to think and patted her on the hand ..... then for some inexplicable reason Lucas regressed under TomSell and had an issue with it later on. Well, yes and no. Lucas started out okay with it, but the reason he regressed (so to speak) is that he wasn't ready to see his son in a relationship with another guy. To a lot of parents (from what I hear), there is a stark difference between accepting a gay child and then seeing them in a relationship. From my recollection, I suspect that was probably the angle that they were taking at that point in time.
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Aug 31 2017, 10:22 PM
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Gabi is only important because she's Arianna HORTON's mom. Otherwise lol, important my ass.
Lucas has a problem with Sonny moving on? Sonny has been dating Paul for how long now? He should've already had a problem if he was going to.
What exactly is a cops worst nightmare... (re: JJ)
I can understand your perspective on Lucas and him just suddenly having a problem with Sonny and Paul. As we all know, there were so many beats that Dena missed that could have been played up and this was one of them. We've seen Kate take a little exception once and that's pretty much it. It would have made perfect sense months ago to have created this opposition and conflict, but I guess I'm at least grateful that they finally did it. It's about time someone stood up for Will's best interests and tried to add a little bit of perspective to the whole thing. That's why it bothered me when Kate basically got pissed for 2 seconds and then just glossed over it like the conversation didn't even happen and was just okay with it. I personally like Gabi, but she has her moments when she tries my last nerve. I do agree with you that her being Ari's mom is a big reason why she's been able to retain some level of "importance". Yeah. The only reason the Lucas thing bothers me is because they should've done it much sooner, like when Sonny started dating Paul again.
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Aug 31 2017, 10:34 PM
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Gabi is only important because she's Arianna HORTON's mom. Otherwise lol, important my ass.
Lucas has a problem with Sonny moving on? Sonny has been dating Paul for how long now? He should've already had a problem if he was going to.
What exactly is a cops worst nightmare... (re: JJ)
I can understand your perspective on Lucas and him just suddenly having a problem with Sonny and Paul. As we all know, there were so many beats that Dena missed that could have been played up and this was one of them. We've seen Kate take a little exception once and that's pretty much it. It would have made perfect sense months ago to have created this opposition and conflict, but I guess I'm at least grateful that they finally did it. It's about time someone stood up for Will's best interests and tried to add a little bit of perspective to the whole thing. That's why it bothered me when Kate basically got pissed for 2 seconds and then just glossed over it like the conversation didn't even happen and was just okay with it. I personally like Gabi, but she has her moments when she tries my last nerve. I do agree with you that her being Ari's mom is a big reason why she's been able to retain some level of "importance".
Yeah. The only reason the Lucas thing bothers me is because they should've done it much sooner, like when Sonny started dating Paul again. Exactly. The fact that everyone has been so gushy and accepting of their involvement has bothered me from the start. Especially Marlena. I mean, never mind the fact that Will was her "precious grandson". Even if Will wasn't one of my favorite characters, I would still think that there would at least be some kind of conflict that they've had to face as a "pairing".
I think if Lucas had more screen time and hadn't been so absorbed in Adrienne for all this time, we might have seen him play this angle sooner as well.
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Aug 31 2017, 11:13 PM
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There's a difference between a parent seeing their child in a relationship their not used to and homophobia I think that word gets tossed around to much just like the word bully
That would make sense if Lucas had been uncomfortable with Will dating Gabi or Mia, but he wasn't. I'm not using the word as a way to insult Lucas. The guy came around and was incredibly supportive. But what I saw was him uncomfortable seeing his son with a guy. That's homophobia. A miiiiiiild form of it, but that's what it was I saw I think there are a ton of people out there who would say, yeah date whoever you want because they don't know you and they don't care. It's completely different when it's your child and your worldview of that child, now man, has been changed.
I don't know that homophobe is the exact term but unsettled parent about your child's life choice is very common on a wide range of topics, including their sexual orientation.
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Aug 31 2017, 11:26 PM
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There's a difference between a parent seeing their child in a relationship their not used to and homophobia I think that word gets tossed around to much just like the word bully
That would make sense if Lucas had been uncomfortable with Will dating Gabi or Mia, but he wasn't. I'm not using the word as a way to insult Lucas. The guy came around and was incredibly supportive. But what I saw was him uncomfortable seeing his son with a guy. That's homophobia. A miiiiiiild form of it, but that's what it was I saw Actually lucas had problem with will dating mia just because the show pretend later it did not happen.it does not mean it never happened i remember will was busy bonding with rafe over give advice over mia. and when will dated gabi lucas was offscreen So lucas never showed approval onscreen on the women will dated
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I'm still terrified about what version of Sami comes back.
If it's scheming Sami and she isn't blathering on about EJ and extolling his honor/virtue, I can put up with it. I still don't know if I can completely forgive her for only taking two seconds to sob over her now "not dead" son because she was propelled to go on some quest to chase a pipe dream in EJ's name. If she storms in with Will in tow overjoyed and excited, then I will probably be excited to see her in that moment. I would love to have her help Lucas get himself back on track and read "Adrienne" the riot act and be an interloper between Rafe and Hope. GG needs out of that pairing, like forever ago. I've tried to like them together, but it's just not happening. I think AS shot herself in the foot demanding that EJ be alive - there's not really many valid reasons for her to return without him ( unless they are mercifully short term) if he's supposedly alive and it limits Sami from pairing up with anyone new.
She would have been better off with him dead.
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Sep 1 2017, 04:05 AM
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I'm still terrified about what version of Sami comes back.
If it's scheming Sami and she isn't blathering on about EJ and extolling his honor/virtue, I can put up with it. I still don't know if I can completely forgive her for only taking two seconds to sob over her now "not dead" son because she was propelled to go on some quest to chase a pipe dream in EJ's name. If she storms in with Will in tow overjoyed and excited, then I will probably be excited to see her in that moment. I would love to have her help Lucas get himself back on track and read "Adrienne" the riot act and be an interloper between Rafe and Hope. GG needs out of that pairing, like forever ago. I've tried to like them together, but it's just not happening.
I think AS shot herself in the foot demanding that EJ be alive - there's not really many valid reasons for her to return without him ( unless they are mercifully short term) if he's supposedly alive and it limits Sami from pairing up with anyone new. She would have been better off with him dead. But are we sure he is alive? That story never amounted to anything.
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Yeah. The only reason the Lucas thing bothers me is because they should've done it much sooner, like when Sonny started dating Paul again.
Exactly. The fact that everyone has been so gushy and accepting of their involvement has bothered me from the start. Especially Marlena. I mean, never mind the fact that Will was her "precious grandson". Even if Will wasn't one of my favorite characters, I would still think that there would at least be some kind of conflict that they've had to face as a "pairing". I think if Lucas had more screen time and hadn't been so absorbed in Adrienne for all this time, we might have seen him play this angle sooner as well. It's obviously just lashing out about Sonny and Paul because he's once again sloshed from alcohol look how he acted in abby's hospital room .it's nobody's business who Sonny marries except gabi the mother of his child and she is happy .will disrespected his marriage before he died Sonny can do as he wants
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