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Topic Started: Aug 28 2017, 07:15 PM (21,950 Views)
Laur


lysie
Aug 29 2017, 05:58 PM
I do not agree with what I'm about to say.

I think Days thinks they "fixed" Hope and Rafe with that Prague story. I don't think it being a problem is even on their radar. Maybe it is now based on twitter feedback, but I bet it wasn't on anyone's list of needs when they started planning/writing.
I am certainly not a Rafe and Hope fan, but I feel like they don't know what to do with Hope romantically with Bo gone. So, to make it easy, they've just left her with Rafe. I think they should just have her be single and focused on her family for a while though. As it is, they're transitioning Jennifer from that role with her Eric coupling.
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six
Aug 29 2017, 04:18 PM
Deverauxfan
Aug 29 2017, 04:10 PM
Can JJ be considered racist when he's dating an AA detective? Especially, since his gf is the victim's sister.

I thought there was a pic of CM with blood on his shirt. So maybe JJ was shot during the shootout along with Theo.
Actually, this would be the sort of thing it would be nice for a show to tackle. From lifelong personal experience - dating, being friends with or having a child who's part of a certain group does not mean you're free of bias toward that group. Even being a member the group doesn't mean you're immune from absorbing some of society's bias about said group.
This is very true.

That said, I don't think Days has the balls to tackle this kind of storyline. And even if they did, I don't think they would do it right.
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concerned
Aug 29 2017, 05:43 PM
Deverauxfan
Aug 29 2017, 04:17 PM
I'm not liking that Lucas has an issue with Paulson getting married. It reminds me when Will came out and started dating Sonny and they made Lucas not accepting it right away. I know that it's a plot point for WILL, but it's a bit late for them to have Lucas be vocal about Paul and Sonny when he never said anything against them and they have been dating for months. :rolleyes:
My memory of it was that Lucas was OK with Will being gay (under MarDar) and it was Sami who had the issue with it until EJ told her what to think and patted her on the hand ..... then for some inexplicable reason Lucas regressed under TomSell and had an issue with it later on.
Lucas was fine with it up until he started seeing Will being intimate with another guy. That happens sometimes.
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Deverauxfan
Aug 29 2017, 04:10 PM
Can JJ be considered racist when he's dating an AA detective? Especially, since his gf is the victim's sister.
You can have small racist views pushed onto you by society that you're not even truly aware of and still date a POC. Locking your door or holding tightly onto your purse when a black person walks by, for example.

Not saying JJ falls under that category, though.
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jane31
Aug 28 2017, 07:15 PM
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Aug 29 2017, 08:04 PM
Michael_WHIS
Aug 29 2017, 07:33 PM
The most annoying thing about the Prague story is that they came thisclose to actually fixing what Rope did. Obviously it required some white-washing of how they handled the fallout of Stefano's death, but establishing that Stefano had survived and somehow tricked them really took a lot of the burden away of the aftermath -- it kind of reframed it as Stefano pulling one over on his enemies (as implausible as that was given what we saw play out). And then they blew it in the final moments with that stupid Shane fakeout! I know there was that tease that Stefano actually did survive, but it was too little, too late, after they had Steve and Shane compromise themselves to save Hope from what they "knew" she had done.
I'm fairly comfortable labeling that twist as the dumbest thing Days has ever done. They'd salvaged rope, and given the best goodbye to Stefano that they could, under the circumstances, provided closure for the Marlena/Stefano story, one of the most important relationships in the history of the show, then they threw it all away. For no good reason at all. The editing department had no qualms about butchering scenes, but no one thought to cut that reveal after JM died and they knew this would be the last time the audience would see him. Now I'm annoyed all over again lol.
And it reminds me of another reason to be annoyed with Steve's zen-ness about Joey going to prison. He engaged in an elaborate scheme to get Hope out of prison AND take her guilt away - a scheme he also kept from his wife. And then with Tripp he's all "prison would kill him." But with Joe, he's like "eh, it's his decision, so whatever."

I do get that it was Joe's decision, but I can't reconcile Steve's attitude about Hope with his attitude about Joe. I appreciate the emotional material MBE got to work with, but I will always believe that if they had truly been written in character, Kayla would have been the one support Joey's decision and Steve would have been the one insisting his son couldn't go to jail.
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Aug 29 2017, 02:01 AM

[twitter=lysie1984/status/902319423008235520]

Interesting....the people who head to Memphis are, or used to be, couples: Paulson, Jarlena, J&A, Lumi. I mean I guess it has to do with Will, as that ties all of them together, but still, it was weird to me.
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Aug 29 2017, 11:24 AM
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Aug 28 2017, 10:59 PM
SoapsandDaysfan
Aug 28 2017, 09:59 PM

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What sort of interaction did Eric/Eve have and when? I don't remember this.
They had a friendship a few years back I believe it was. It sort of looked like they could be heading toward a dating thing but nothing ever came of it. This was back when Paige was still alive.
Thanks. That was during one of the times I wasn't watching.
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Aug 29 2017, 11:29 AM
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Aug 29 2017, 07:53 AM
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Aug 29 2017, 07:51 AM

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Don't worry. No one will ever try that again.
Yep, it's once again the Sam, Sonny, Jason and Carly hour with a side dash of Roger Howarth and Michelle Stafford wasting my time and sucking up two contracts. It's still a bit better than when Guza was destroying the show but still. Look at the ridiculous storyline they had Sam and Sonny just in. And now Steve Burton is back.
I would take Guza's GH any day over the last three years of GH.
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ScorpioGirl1987
Aug 29 2017, 06:07 PM
six
Aug 29 2017, 05:52 PM
I thought Lucas's issue under tomsell was that he thought Sonny was a player and not good enough for Will.
Yeah, I never understood that. Why did Lucas say that? It was so random!
Not really.

Sonny is older, has travelled the world and has had prior relationships (aka Paul, etc.)

Will was a naive small town boy when he met Sonny.
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Aug 29 2017, 11:58 PM
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Aug 29 2017, 11:29 AM
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Aug 29 2017, 07:53 AM

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Yep, it's once again the Sam, Sonny, Jason and Carly hour with a side dash of Roger Howarth and Michelle Stafford wasting my time and sucking up two contracts. It's still a bit better than when Guza was destroying the show but still. Look at the ridiculous storyline they had Sam and Sonny just in. And now Steve Burton is back.
I would take Guza's GH any day over the last three years of GH.
GH would probably be off the air.
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seanny
Aug 30 2017, 01:41 AM
ScorpioGirl1987
Aug 29 2017, 06:07 PM
six
Aug 29 2017, 05:52 PM
I thought Lucas's issue under tomsell was that he thought Sonny was a player and not good enough for Will.
Yeah, I never understood that. Why did Lucas say that? It was so random!
Not really.

Sonny is older, has travelled the world and has had prior relationships (aka Paul, etc.)

Will was a naive small town boy when he met Sonny.
Yes that's exactly what Lucas was thinking. He pretty much said so.

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seanny
Aug 30 2017, 01:41 AM
ScorpioGirl1987
Aug 29 2017, 06:07 PM
six
Aug 29 2017, 05:52 PM
I thought Lucas's issue under tomsell was that he thought Sonny was a player and not good enough for Will.
Yeah, I never understood that. Why did Lucas say that? It was so random!
Not really.

Sonny is older, has travelled the world and has had prior relationships (aka Paul, etc.)

Will was a naive small town boy when he met Sonny.
That doesn't mean he's a player though. I highly doubt Sonny was dating multiple people at a time for sex, lol
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Partnersincrime
Aug 29 2017, 02:00 PM
sonny deserves the attitude from lucas sonny seem to care marlena feeling over he getting married again but he ignored lucas feeling
Sonny is raising will child so if he married paul it means paul will be part of arianna something will not want to since will had problem with paul
Will had no problem with Paul the problem was always will .Sonny wanted to tell will about ex bf Paul being in town but will didn't wanna talk about Sonny's ex's yet wills ex was living with them.so then will goes and cheats not knowing who Paul was yet when he learned who Paul was he put all blame on Sonny .and insecurities messed Wilson up .I think Lucas is drunk when he lashes out
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Sindacco
Aug 29 2017, 11:58 PM
KMan101
Aug 29 2017, 11:29 AM
DiMera87
Aug 29 2017, 07:53 AM

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Yep, it's once again the Sam, Sonny, Jason and Carly hour with a side dash of Roger Howarth and Michelle Stafford wasting my time and sucking up two contracts. It's still a bit better than when Guza was destroying the show but still. Look at the ridiculous storyline they had Sam and Sonny just in. And now Steve Burton is back.
I would take Guza's GH any day over the last three years of GH.
Well, by "better" I meant the use of the canvas, the show has been abysmal for a while now. I think Guza helped destroy the core of the show so I'd never want him back but I guess I can at least say he wrote actual stories with emotional impact. Now the show is on auto-pilot, which is how I felt with Jean's ATWT.
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laurondo
Aug 30 2017, 02:48 AM
seanny
Aug 30 2017, 01:41 AM
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he thought Sonny was a player
Not really.

Sonny is older, has travelled the world and has had prior relationships (aka Paul, etc.)

Will was a naive small town boy when he met Sonny.
That doesn't mean he's a player though. I highly doubt Sonny was dating multiple people at a time for sex, lol

I'm not sure Lucas ever used the word "player". (He might have, but I don't remember the details of what was said).

My impression at the time was that, after he got over being homophobic, Lucas switched to protective mode ...
I thought he was reacting like some parents would:

Lucas' thoughts toward Will might have been thus:
You have lived here most of your life (except for those few years in Switzerland with Carrie and Austin), and you haven't dated anyone except Mia and Gabi in high school, neither of which went anywhere, and you haven't dated anyone of your preferred romantic gender.
But your boyfriend is slightly older, more worldly, and has traveled with family, and then traveled on his own as an adult, and he has had an opportunity to date while living as an adult.

That's the sort of reaction a parent of an inexperienced older teen girl would have ... if she wanted to date a guy who had been living/traveling and dating as an adult. Would this man hurt my child?
Edited by nananana7, Aug 30 2017, 07:50 AM.
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concerned
Aug 29 2017, 05:24 PM
EndOfDays
Aug 29 2017, 02:58 AM
concerned
Aug 29 2017, 01:45 AM

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NB most likely went on maternity leave a few weeks ago. She hasn't even given birth yet according to her last few tweets. There is no reason for her to be MIA when this stuff was taped in March/April.
She already looks pretty pregnant on screen...
Shocker! A pregnant woman looks pregnant. :rolleyes: That's not an excuse for her to not have a storyline and I'm pretty sure that's discrimination. Pregnant actresses have always been involved in stories and some have even led the show, most recently AZ and AS. NB's maternity leave would most likely affect episodes airing in 2018, so there is no reason for her to be on the sidelines this fall.
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nikemi


I want to see how Will come back to the canvas but that's about.
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Aug 30 2017, 02:48 AM
seanny
Aug 30 2017, 01:41 AM
ScorpioGirl1987
Aug 29 2017, 06:07 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephe thought Sonny was a player
Not really.

Sonny is older, has travelled the world and has had prior relationships (aka Paul, etc.)

Will was a naive small town boy when he met Sonny.
That doesn't mean he's a player though. I highly doubt Sonny was dating multiple people at a time for sex, lol
First let me start saying paul less screw up that will and probably better i actually think paul deserve better than sonny and if Arianna was not part of sonny life nobody should give attitude on sonny marrying paul but since Arianna is part of sonny life he should get attitude from someone of will family
It because will had problem with paul despite will was on wrong not paul it does not changed that fact will will not want paul to be part of arianna life.so unless sonny stop being arianna life sonny deserves any attitude he get from will family for not wanting someone will hated be part of arianna
Especially sonny is not arianna bio dad and will family can go to court and cause problems and can try to keep him from arianna
And at least Lucas will not go behind sonny back unlike sonny that pretend he okay for his mom marring lucas and agree while he encourage his dad to stop the wedding and get lucas left at altar
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nananana7
Aug 30 2017, 07:48 AM
laurondo
Aug 30 2017, 02:48 AM
seanny
Aug 30 2017, 01:41 AM

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That doesn't mean he's a player though. I highly doubt Sonny was dating multiple people at a time for sex, lol

I'm not sure Lucas ever used the word "player". (He might have, but I don't remember the details of what was said).

I don't know if he used the word player either, but he did blatantly state that Sonny intended to get Will into bed, then move on after he got what he wanted. He also thought Sonny was likely stringing multiple guys along. Sonny. The guy who moved to Salem and pretty much devoted all of his free time to helping and supporting Will. Lucas let his imagination run away with him due to homophobia and over-protectiveness.
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