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Thursday, August 31, 2017 Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Aug 30 2017, 05:35 PM (6,303 Views)
talbab1994
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I have found this week of episodes to be kind of boring. I know it'll get better.....
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lbchatterbox
Aug 31 2017, 11:10 AM
JJ closes blinds cause told Raines was meeting w/suspect-really wants romantic lunch w/Lani; L tells JJ he's weird & amazing

Lani tells JJ she's grateful to have him in her life-they have sweet moment-then kiss; Claire tells Theo stuff on table click-bait
J.J. should have taken Loni to the park for their romantic lunch.
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Kayla worried about Joe in prison and will have hard life when released. Eric and Gabi both served time in prison & were released. They seem to be doing ok.
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kay
Aug 31 2017, 07:02 PM
Kayla worried about Joe in prison and will have hard life when released. Eric and Gabi both served time in prison & were released. They seem to be doing ok.
It's be nice to see Kayla have a scene with Eric talking about this.
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Aug 31 2017, 11:30 AM
lbchatterbox
Aug 31 2017, 11:19 AM
Theo upset he'll have no parents, no one in his life if Abe goes to jail; Theo angry feeling sorry for self; Claire says can feel upset

Claire assures Theo that he does have ppl like Lani, Brandon, & her who all love & care about him; Kayla talks to Val about team
Poor Theo. That's exactly why I don't think Abe would have done this.

A Brandon name check? I appreciate that.
Who is Brandon?
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kay
Aug 31 2017, 06:54 PM
lbchatterbox
Aug 31 2017, 11:10 AM
JJ closes blinds cause told Raines was meeting w/suspect-really wants romantic lunch w/Lani; L tells JJ he's weird & amazing

Lani tells JJ she's grateful to have him in her life-they have sweet moment-then kiss; Claire tells Theo stuff on table click-bait
J.J. should have taken Loni to the park for their romantic lunch.
Yea, maybe Rope's pup tent is still there!
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I really don't MIND Lani anymore, and I find her and JJ pleasant, but something's definitely missing. The writing for them today showed definite effort, and I liked the whole "resetting their beginning" bit. I think what's really missing is that we never saw them longing for each other or falling for one another. They had that "miscommunication" offscreen and the fallout, and then they were dating. It's really tough to build a soap couple without those near-misses and unrequited longing and such. I feel like if I met them IRL, I'd be like, "Oh, they're cute together," but that doesn't make for compelling television.
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The Steve I remember wouldn't be so passive about his son going to jail or someone holding a knife to his wife and son. Steve always got angry about things. We're just not seeing any conflict with Steve.

I'm so annoyed with it.
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J&M and Family Fanatic!

Does Claire know how crazy her mom was about Brandon when she was a teen?
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This was a solid and very enjoyable episode. It was tremendously helped by not having the characters that I despise (Paul, Andre etc) and characters that I'm currently indifferent about (Chabby etc). Lani and JJ were sweet and I'm really trying to invest in them knowing what is likely to come with the Theo story. I can't believe how much I am liking Nicole again, and I'm determined to enjoy the ride while it lasts, Ericole still has the most potential by far out of any couple on this show. Theo and Claire were nice and I'm really going to miss KP, especially since I loved what I saw from Nu-Ciara. I also loved the simpleness of the Valerie and Kayla scenes and it was nice to see Kayla with a friend.
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berwyn
Aug 31 2017, 08:05 PM
Cimz
Aug 31 2017, 11:30 AM
lbchatterbox
Aug 31 2017, 11:19 AM
Theo upset he'll have no parents, no one in his life if Abe goes to jail; Theo angry feeling sorry for self; Claire says can feel upset

Claire assures Theo that he does have ppl like Lani, Brandon, & her who all love & care about him; Kayla talks to Val about team
Poor Theo. That's exactly why I don't think Abe would have done this.

A Brandon name check? I appreciate that.

Who is Brandon?
Brandon is Nicole's brother. He is also Abe's son with Faye. He was last played by Matt Cedeno.
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talbab1994
Aug 31 2017, 06:51 PM
I have found this week of episodes to be kind of boring. I know it'll get better.....
I admire your optimism
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Hugo


That episode was a little slow for me but I didn't hate it.

I'm relieved the Holly saga is over. I wish the Deimos saga was over too but I bet his murder will come back to haunt Nicole soon. I don't know if I like the Eric/Nicole/Brady triangle at this point. I still love Ericole but I don't know, I feel like the show is wasting time and I worry nothing will happen before Nicole leaves.

I enjoyed JJ/Lani, I think those were their best scenes since the island. I'm intrigued by the potential but I'm not sold on them as a couple yet. I'm going back and forth with Claire/Theo, I think I can't really get into them because they don't feel right for each other.

I didn't like the Steve/Tripp and Kayla/Valerie scenes in this episode. I mean it makes sense that there's some tension but I'm not enjoying watching those scenes.
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Lovejm


So JJ and lani were kinda cute. Who knew? I still don't see great chemistry but the writing was the best they've gotten.

Claire is pretty much fixed for me. She's way better. I did like that she called Marlena but they have got to remember she's related to half the town. She'd be a logical person to mention to hope she hasn't heard from J&M and then hope could recall her conversation with John a few weeks ago. I really liked Val stopping by to see the kids too. It wasn't in a butt in kind of way.

I really like seeing female doctors and seeing them be friends and not rivals so those scenes were fine if a little filler-y. A cool tie they both have loved ones in jail. I wish I felt more for the Val Abe relationshp though. I just don't.

The Steve tripp scenes were frustrating. I get wanting a relationship with your son but it's heavy handed at this point. I'd except Steve to be furious over what he did to Kayla. Not just the scalpel but the whole framing thing was dropped. He's so blasé about the whole thing. I also don't blame Kayla for being livid at the end even if I haven't totally agreed with her all along. I'm guessing Steve is pissy when Kayla rebuffs Tripp's efforts next week too.
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I've hesitated to comment on this one as some of what I'll say probably isn't very popular but what the heck.

I am a Stayla fan but this storyline isn't a good luck for either of them. I know many of their fans wanted them to have these fights/talks with "real" conflict and discussion and I get it, but everytime I hear Kayla do the "our son vs his son" I cringe. I understand she's angry about Joe being in prison but coming from a blended family that it one of my pet peeve's that just bugs me!

While I understand Steve wanting to still bond with Tripp, I do wish it hadn't been crammed into one day. Sure, he can love the kid unconditionally, its what parents do, I have no issue with that, and I can see Steve having a kinship with him as Tripp is the most like his younger self. But I do want to see Tripp earn his forgiveness and way back into the family. When they're on so infrequently it loses it's punch too.

I do like that they'll be incorporating Tripp soon more in with Theo and Claire. I think that will get interesting, now that I like them more.
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Sep 1 2017, 10:01 AM
I've hesitated to comment on this one as some of what I'll say probably isn't very popular but what the heck.

I am a Stayla fan but this storyline isn't a good luck for either of them. I know many of their fans wanted them to have these fights/talks with "real" conflict and discussion and I get it, but everytime I hear Kayla do the "our son vs his son" I cringe. I understand she's angry about Joe being in prison but coming from a blended family that it one of my pet peeve's that just bugs me!

While I understand Steve wanting to still bond with Tripp, I do wish it hadn't been crammed into one day. Sure, he can love the kid unconditionally, its what parents do, I have no issue with that, and I can see Steve having a kinship with him as Tripp is the most like his younger self. But I do want to see Tripp earn his forgiveness and way back into the family. When they're on so infrequently it loses it's punch too.

I do like that they'll be incorporating Tripp soon more in with Theo and Claire. I think that will get interesting, now that I like them more.
The blended family issues on this show drive me crazy. They did a MUCH better job in the 80's and 90's with that. They've even regressed with families that were raised with good blended families.

I'm also not sure how I feel about Tripp with Claire. I really wish there was more weight put behind the fact he could have killed Kayla and ruined her career. And I get he knows it was a mistake but he was so easily manipulated by Jade and Angelo, I can't get past it yet.
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Lovejm
Sep 1 2017, 10:25 AM
lbchatterbox
Sep 1 2017, 10:01 AM
I've hesitated to comment on this one as some of what I'll say probably isn't very popular but what the heck.

I am a Stayla fan but this storyline isn't a good luck for either of them. I know many of their fans wanted them to have these fights/talks with "real" conflict and discussion and I get it, but everytime I hear Kayla do the "our son vs his son" I cringe. I understand she's angry about Joe being in prison but coming from a blended family that it one of my pet peeve's that just bugs me!

While I understand Steve wanting to still bond with Tripp, I do wish it hadn't been crammed into one day. Sure, he can love the kid unconditionally, its what parents do, I have no issue with that, and I can see Steve having a kinship with him as Tripp is the most like his younger self. But I do want to see Tripp earn his forgiveness and way back into the family. When they're on so infrequently it loses it's punch too.

I do like that they'll be incorporating Tripp soon more in with Theo and Claire. I think that will get interesting, now that I like them more.
The blended family issues on this show drive me crazy. They did a MUCH better job in the 80's and 90's with that. They've even regressed with families that were raised with good blended families.

I'm also not sure how I feel about Tripp with Claire. I really wish there was more weight put behind the fact he could have killed Kayla and ruined her career. And I get he knows it was a mistake but he was so easily manipulated by Jade and Angelo, I can't get past it yet.
The other issue with the Tripp is that that's all we know about him. That's now his whole history and personality. Why would I want any character with him?
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lbchatterbox
Sep 1 2017, 10:01 AM
I've hesitated to comment on this one as some of what I'll say probably isn't very popular but what the heck.

I am a Stayla fan but this storyline isn't a good luck for either of them. I know many of their fans wanted them to have these fights/talks with "real" conflict and discussion and I get it, but everytime I hear Kayla do the "our son vs his son" I cringe. I understand she's angry about Joe being in prison but coming from a blended family that it one of my pet peeve's that just bugs me!

While I understand Steve wanting to still bond with Tripp, I do wish it hadn't been crammed into one day. Sure, he can love the kid unconditionally, its what parents do, I have no issue with that, and I can see Steve having a kinship with him as Tripp is the most like his younger self. But I do want to see Tripp earn his forgiveness and way back into the family. When they're on so infrequently it loses it's punch too.

I do like that they'll be incorporating Tripp soon more in with Theo and Claire. I think that will get interesting, now that I like them more.
I don't generally like the "our son vs. his son" idea either and I got in some arguments when Tripp first came to town because I was adamant that I did not want Kayla rejecting him or being hesitant about him simply because he was Ava's son - or only Steve's son. It might have been a traditionally soapy way to do things, but I didn't like it because of exactly what you said - I come from a blended family and hate those kinds of lines being drawn. But, I don't have that big of a problem with it now. Kayla welcomed Tripp into the family. She encouraged him, she mentored him, she did everything she could to try and make Tripp accept Steve. And Tripp spit on that. He sabotaged her career and held a scalpel to her throat. He's earned the "his son" label at this point. He's earned her anger, her hurt, her lack of trust, and her rejection. So, I've got no problem with the change in how Kayla views Tripp because it isn't based on who he is, but on what he has done. And I understand why Kayla feels like Steve's chosen Tripp over Joe. I might not agree with that description, but I understand why she would feel that way.

And I liked almost nothing about the Steve/Tripp scenes. I didn't, and don't, expect Steve to disown Tripp. But there is a compromise between sending him away and telling him it's all just fine. Steve could have simply said that Tripp was his son and he loved him, but what he did nearly destroyed his family. That he couldn't pretend that it hadn't happened and that it was all just okay. That before he could trust him, he needed to be sure that Tripp really wanted to be a part of the family and make amends and wasn't just trying to make sure Kayla didn't send him to prison. That Tripp needed to give them all some time to deal with the hurt and betrayal. Instead, he basically told him that no matter what Tripp did, Steve would be okay with it. And he proved that he was totally choosing Tripp over Kayla when he volunteered to help Tripp make things better with Kayla - with no regard for how Kayla might feel about that. What he should have said is that whether Tripp could earn back Kayla's trust was up to Kayla, that Steve was staying out of their relationship. But no, he's going to make everything better regardless of what Kayla wants.

I also really don't like how passive Steve has been. I didn't like it in the summer of '16 when he and Kayla were separated and Steve did nothing and I don't like it now. Steve's a lot of things, good and bad, but passive has never been one of them. I understand that he could decide that Joey had to do what Joey had to do, but I don't believe for a minute he would be so ho hum about the whole thing. And accepting Joey's decision doesn't mean not questioning it. And maybe that's what bugs me the most. Steve told Kayla that going to prison would kill Tripp, but never showed that same concern or emotion about Joey. He could have expressed his concerns, his fear, his anger and still told Kayla they had to accept Joey's decision. As it is, it just feels like Steve just doesn't care all that much. And some of it is the writing, but some of it is how SN is playing this and I don't understand that acting choice. Maybe he feels like this is Steve's time to be the strong one who holds the family together, but it's not coming off very well.

I do appreciate that Kayla gets to be mad, but it sure feels like this is all yet another set up for her to be the bad guy. Tripp's sad and sorry and Steve's on his side, so if she doesn't give the insta-forgiveness they are looking for, she's going to be the bitch once again. And boy does that get tiresome.
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Sep 1 2017, 10:25 AM
lbchatterbox
Sep 1 2017, 10:01 AM
I've hesitated to comment on this one as some of what I'll say probably isn't very popular but what the heck.

I am a Stayla fan but this storyline isn't a good luck for either of them. I know many of their fans wanted them to have these fights/talks with "real" conflict and discussion and I get it, but everytime I hear Kayla do the "our son vs his son" I cringe. I understand she's angry about Joe being in prison but coming from a blended family that it one of my pet peeve's that just bugs me!

While I understand Steve wanting to still bond with Tripp, I do wish it hadn't been crammed into one day. Sure, he can love the kid unconditionally, its what parents do, I have no issue with that, and I can see Steve having a kinship with him as Tripp is the most like his younger self. But I do want to see Tripp earn his forgiveness and way back into the family. When they're on so infrequently it loses it's punch too.

I do like that they'll be incorporating Tripp soon more in with Theo and Claire. I think that will get interesting, now that I like them more.
The blended family issues on this show drive me crazy. They did a MUCH better job in the 80's and 90's with that. They've even regressed with families that were raised with good blended families.

I'm also not sure how I feel about Tripp with Claire. I really wish there was more weight put behind the fact he could have killed Kayla and ruined her career. And I get he knows it was a mistake but he was so easily manipulated by Jade and Angelo, I can't get past it yet.
Ironically, they totally avoided the issue when Tripp first arrived. He was totally accepted by Kayla and Joey and everyone else. At least this time, the divisions are earned and not based on bloodlines.
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esp13
Sep 1 2017, 10:35 AM
Lovejm
Sep 1 2017, 10:25 AM
lbchatterbox
Sep 1 2017, 10:01 AM
I've hesitated to comment on this one as some of what I'll say probably isn't very popular but what the heck.

I am a Stayla fan but this storyline isn't a good luck for either of them. I know many of their fans wanted them to have these fights/talks with "real" conflict and discussion and I get it, but everytime I hear Kayla do the "our son vs his son" I cringe. I understand she's angry about Joe being in prison but coming from a blended family that it one of my pet peeve's that just bugs me!

While I understand Steve wanting to still bond with Tripp, I do wish it hadn't been crammed into one day. Sure, he can love the kid unconditionally, its what parents do, I have no issue with that, and I can see Steve having a kinship with him as Tripp is the most like his younger self. But I do want to see Tripp earn his forgiveness and way back into the family. When they're on so infrequently it loses it's punch too.

I do like that they'll be incorporating Tripp soon more in with Theo and Claire. I think that will get interesting, now that I like them more.
The blended family issues on this show drive me crazy. They did a MUCH better job in the 80's and 90's with that. They've even regressed with families that were raised with good blended families.

I'm also not sure how I feel about Tripp with Claire. I really wish there was more weight put behind the fact he could have killed Kayla and ruined her career. And I get he knows it was a mistake but he was so easily manipulated by Jade and Angelo, I can't get past it yet.
Ironically, they totally avoided the issue when Tripp first arrived. He was totally accepted by Kayla and Joey and everyone else. At least this time, the divisions are earned and not based on bloodlines.
Agreed and it's funny because it seems that may have just been plotty to set up the betrayal. Even if they do it right it's for the wrong reasons.
Edited by Lovejm, Sep 1 2017, 10:50 AM.
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