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| Tuesday, October 3, 2017 Episode Discussion | |
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| Half Halt | Oct 3 2017, 01:38 PM Post #141 |
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Loved Ben's lament he didn't get a piece of wedding cake!! :blulaugh: |
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| seanny | Oct 3 2017, 01:38 PM Post #142 |
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I've always wanted to see Paul be a "gray" villain type character but not under this circumstance. |
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| PetrovaSalvatore | Oct 3 2017, 01:38 PM Post #143 |
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.
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Love that Marlena is investigating!! |
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| kay | Oct 3 2017, 01:39 PM Post #144 |
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Exactly. Paul is not being very patient with Sonny right now. He is coming across as selfish (didn't Sonny describe an ex as selfish and controlling?). Maybe Paul'S true personality is going to surface. |
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| Will'sgirl2017 | Oct 3 2017, 01:46 PM Post #145 |
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RSW once again did a great job today. Love his I didn't get a piece of wedding cake :blulaugh: Paul, he just needs to tone it down. Let Sonny deal with this his way. Will is dead, uh No Paul he is not, can't wait for Chandler (Will) his return. |
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| kay | Oct 3 2017, 01:46 PM Post #146 |
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Thank you. |
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| kay | Oct 3 2017, 01:48 PM Post #147 |
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Well if he did it did not last long because he was constantly showing up wher ever Sonny was. |
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| PetrovaSalvatore | Oct 3 2017, 01:48 PM Post #148 |
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.
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As much as I believe that neither Hope or Rafe deserve to be commissioner. I think it makes more sense for it to be Hope considering her legacy & long years on the show & the force. |
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| JarlenaLante | Oct 3 2017, 01:55 PM Post #149 |
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This was a good follow up episode to yesterday. I loved how much focus Marlena and Kate had, that Kate was so worried how Lucas would handle this given the state he's in, that Jarlena were open to the idea Will could be alive given their history. Now I really want to see Thursday's episode to see Lucas's reaction. CrazyBen was awesome, as always. |
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| Nanalora | Oct 3 2017, 01:59 PM Post #150 |
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JJ looked a!most as crazy as Ben at the end. To much chad and Abby today. Liked the exchange between Ben and Sonny. Sonny is a wreck over this. |
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| PetrovaSalvatore | Oct 3 2017, 02:05 PM Post #151 |
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.
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I wonder how Will survived did Kristen inject him with some kind of serum like she did EJ!? Who for all we know could still be well and alive living in Graceland!! lol |
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| PetrovaSalvatore | Oct 3 2017, 02:06 PM Post #152 |
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.
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For a minute there I honestly thought Ben was gonna reveal Paige is Alice too!! 👀👀😳 |
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| PatNS | Oct 3 2017, 02:09 PM Post #153 |
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Robert Scott Wilson just owns his scene. He plays crazy Ben so well. I didn't really expect him to give Sonny anything substantial but I was hoping. I guess we wait longer. Don't see why Chad and Abby were on today, they added nothing to the show. I liked the Kate / Andre convo ... it fit in the context of what happened and what was playing out. Really enjoyed John and Marlena. He knows her so well and knew that his place was with her, not with Paul. Seriously I could care less about who Abe named Commissioner ... the only way I'll ever care is if it leads to Rafe and Hope ending their romantic relationship. Again Paul's tone and attitude just rubbed me the wrong way. I understand his position, I really do ... I just wish he wasn't coming off as if he's scared to death Ben is telling the truth even though he keeps insisting Ben is lying. |
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| nikemi | Oct 3 2017, 02:09 PM Post #154 |
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Hope Paul isn't ruined for WilSon.
Edited by nikemi, Oct 3 2017, 02:09 PM.
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| PetrovaSalvatore | Oct 3 2017, 02:15 PM Post #155 |
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.
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They can't do any worse than what did to Aiden for Bope and Rope 😂😂😂 |
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| PetrovaSalvatore | Oct 3 2017, 02:18 PM Post #156 |
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.
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But they'd never ruin Daniel though 😂😂😂 the back from the dead love would be vilified & turned into a villain to prop her Dan as the new & true soulmate!! People would walk down the street and throw rocks and tomatoes at him & saying "How dare you come from dead & break up Daniel and his love!!" |
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| lbchatterbox | Oct 3 2017, 02:36 PM Post #157 |
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I loved today! RSW is the perfect villian for an arc here and there. love him! He was great taunting Sonny and then with JJ. Poor JJ going off the edge. So glad at least someone else mentioned Ben's other victims. I really loved so much focus on both Marlena and Kate as the grandmothers today. Really glad John stayed with Marlena the entire time cause she needed him. I love Jarlena and I loved how they could say they'd be overjoyed to see their grandson, they'd still feel for Paul. I love everything Kate said too and even reaching out to Hope to see if Clyde was involved and them both acknowledging how hard this was. bubbles popping. I would've enjoyed the rest of what Kate was saying about Lucas and Will if it wasn't to Andre but this softer side of Kate was a good start. Sonny is in a tight spot. I can see why he needs the truth and Ben keeps talking in riddles,lol. and Paul really does seem desparate. I really hope it's because he's not used to people coming back to life vs him having something to do with Will's disapearrance. I like Paul. |
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| PatNS | Oct 3 2017, 03:10 PM Post #158 |
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Please note: This report is not to be copied and pasted to any other sites. Please link only. Link to summary archive: http://www.network54.com/Forum/358635/ Director: Grant A. Johnson Scriptwriter: Richard Culliton (An abbreviated version today) Segment 1 Abby joins Chad on the front pew in the chapel. Thomas is napping. Chad asks how Abby is doing. She's okay but worried about Sonny. She knows that Ben is a liar and a psychopath but in her heart she wishes that what he said about Will being alive was true. Will is the love of Sonny's life. I can't imagine what it would be like for him to hear that. Chad - Paul too. Abby says Ben is lying. What he says is not possible. Ben - Sonny, I thought you might stop by. I'm sorry I was late for the wedding but I'm glad that I made it time to hear that touching speech you said about our friend Will. And baseball guy ... Paul, isn't it, he took that well. I mean there he is about to get married and he's listening to what could very well be a love letter to the first husband. Sonny - Tell me what you were going to say about Will. Ben - Sure, I'm glad to help just as soon as my lawyer's present. Sonny - Are you kidding! You're already convicted. Ben - Well I was convicted of killing Will but the dude ain't dead. Sonny - You were convicted of a hell of a lot more than that. Ben - But legally that conviction has to be questioned. Sonny - You said you were going to do the right thing or is this just a scheme to get away with murder. Ben - Are you calling me a liar? Sonny - You are a liar Ben. I should have known. This is all just a sick game. He heads to the door. Ben - Sonny you walk away now you'll never know the truth. Can you live with that? Kate is at home talking on the phone to Hope who is the squad room. Hope tells her Ben hasn't said anything yet about Will, he's demanding a lawyer ... don't get your hopes up about Will. Kate isn't. She wonders if someone helped Ben escape from Bayview. The police are looking into it. If Kate is thinking Clyde Weston Hope thought the same so put a call into the prison where he is. She'll let Kate know as soon as she has confirmation that he's still behind bars. Kate is startled when someone puts their hand on her shoulder. John and Marlena enter the Brady Pub. Marlena thinks John should go be with Paul. John told Paul to call him if he needs him. He doesn't want to leave Marlena alone. She insists she's fine. John disagrees. After what just happened honey you're not fine. Marlena cries - You're right. I'm not fine at all. John holds her. Rafe gets off the phone and informs her that Lani called. She's confirmed Ben's story of how he escaped. Hope says the timing seems too easy, odd for her. She's looking into it. They're not sending Ben back to Bayview until they're sure he'll be secure. Rafe agrees but he wants Ben out of here ASAP. Hope knows, who knows what else he'll try to pull. Rafe - Or before someone tries to make sure he never hurts someone again. Paul is ranting about why Ben would lie and say that Will is alive. JJ stops Paul from going after Ben. Sonny - Okay fine then say something damn it. Why do you think Will is alive? Are you saying you didn't attack him. Ben - I told you I'll give you what you want when you give me what I want. Kate snaps at Andre - Don't you ever do that to me again! Chad and Abby are trying to figure out why Ben would say what he said. Insane or not he still has reasons. Chad is going to treasure the moment she decked Ben ... he's going to tell their grandchildren about it. Abby had to do it ... she wanted him to know that he didn't have any power over her. Chad says she showed that to Ben, him, and everyone here. Abby - And to myself. Hope wonders why Ben didn't just make a run for it when he left Bayview. Why did he go to the church. He said he read an article about the wedding. As much as his obsession has been about Abigail I couldn't help notice that he seemed much more focused on Sonny. Rafe feels it's because Ben knows Sonny would be hit hardest by the news that Sonny is still alive. Hope - Yeah but he knew we'd all know that was a lie so why'd he say it. Sonny - If you knew Will wasn't dead why didn't you bring that up at your trial. Ben - There's a reason for that. Sonny - There isn't a lawyer alive that could get you that deal now. Ben - Well then I guess I'll just have to settle for the next best thing. Sonny - And what's that. Ben - Sonny, you're not that bright are you. Sonny - Abigail? Ben - Are you crazy? Actually Chad's the crazy one for marrying the bitch again. I suppose he thinks they'll just end up happily ever after like no one will suffer the same way Will suffered. Mark my words, they will. Segment 2 Abe calls Hope from the park off the square. He needs to meet with her and Rafe privately right away. Andre apologises for startling Kate. He can see how strung out she is. Kate is - to have all those terrible memories come back at an occasion that's supposed to be happy. Andre is sure it was very painful. Kate - Will really was an extraordinary young man. Andre heard that. Kate - He was so smart. He was kind. He was such a gifted writer. Andre - And everyone who knew him loved him apparently. Kate smiles - We did. He had that thing people have you know of when you're with them they make you feel like you're so very important to them. He'd always give you his undivided attention. Andre - That's unusual for young people, isn't it cause they're always on the phone Tweeting and texting. Kate - Not Will, at least not with me. Andre surmises they were close. Kate says they were close but she just didn't spend enough time with him. He was such great company and they had so much fun together. He was so charming and funny and he really reminded me of Lucas so much. They had the same humour and they both had such big hearts. (Kate keeps wiping her tears) Andre is sorry Lucas had a relapse. So is Kate. She just wishes she could help him. Andre asks if she heard anything about Ben. Kate called Hope but Ben is refusing to say anything else until he has a lawyer. Not that it makes any difference because everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie. Andre says it still doesn't make him saying Will is alive any easier. I can't imagine how that affected you. Kate - How it affected everyone. But how it affected me was it brought back that horrible, horrible moment when we found out he was gone forever. Andre - But him saying that Will was alive even though he's a lunatic, was there a moment there that you hoped. Kate - Hope is a cruel thing. I never hope anymore. Abby thought she was losing her mind for a minute there but she realised Ben was real. I'm not sick any more. I'm strong, healthy. He can't control me, manipulate me. Chad feels she proved that by decking him plus there were a lot of people including him that would never let Ben hurt her. Abby - I've come a long way baby. We're going to make it through this and so are Sonny and Paul. I just wish we'd hear from that. JJ tells Paul there's no way in hell this could be true. Will's body was brought to the morgue. His parents identified him. Sonny - You think I'm going to help you hurt Abigail. I don't need to hear any more of these lies. Ben - But you're not sure I'm lying, not really or else you wouldn't be hanging on to my every word. John brings Marlena coffee. She tells him she's called Bayview and asked to consult on Ben's case. I would like to find out if he talked about Will being alive before today. John - What if they claim patient privilege. Marlena - After what they did to me in that place if they try not to answer me they will have a lawsuit on their hands and Will is my grandson after all. John - What are you thinking Doc? Marlena - I'm a realist and I understand that what Ben said might be a complete lie but honey you and I have seen such strange things go on over the years that a little part of me is thinking ... well I'm wondering if it might be true. Segment 3 Rafe and Hope join Abe in the park. Abe tells them that it's hit the news that a convicted serial killer has escaped from Bayview Sanitarium. Now after all the coverage about John and Marlena everyone's on edge. Salem PD is in shambles after the Raines scandal. The town needs to know that there is someone in charge to keep them safe so I need to appoint a Commissioner immediately. He's made a decision. Marlena - Wow, now that I've said it out loud it just sounds ridiculous. John - No it doesn't. Sweetheart after everything Stefano DiMera has done to us I'd never say never. Marlena - Ben is no Stefano. I know that I'm grasping at straws here but wouldn't it be so wonderful if Will were alive. I know Kate must be feeling the same way. Andre - That's pretty cynical even for you. Kate - Well I don't think anyone could spend time in a room with Ben Weston and not be cynical. Andre thinks she needs a drink. Kate does but if I need a drink how is Lucas going to deal when he finds out. OMG. He's in such terrible shape. He refuses to go to rehab. He's right on the edge but I have to tell him. Andre - Are you sure you want to do that. Abby talks about the pain she saw in people's faces. She mentions Kate and Marlena and Gabi. She thinks they should call Gabi. Sonny - You strangled Will. Gabi found him. So many people saw his body. Ben - You didn't. Sonny snaps - If it's true you need to tell me Ben. Ben - Sonny sometimes things aren't always the way they seem to be. Sometimes there's more to the story. Segment 4 Andre suggests it's better to wait to talk to Lucas until she has more information. Kate agrees. I couldn't get hold of him if I wanted to. I don't even know where he is. He hasn't answered my phone calls for days. When I fired him I really thought I was doing the best thing for him as his mother and the CEO. But my son is a train wreck and I'm the one to blame. Andre asks if she'd like some of their men go look for him. After all they're housemates and friends, that's why he'd do this for her. Marlena - Oh my gosh I'm so sorry. John - Sorry for what? Marlena - Because I'm going on and on about wonderful it would be to have Will back. I do know what that would do to your son. John - Oh come on Doc, I'd be doing backflips if that young man were alive. I loved him too you know but that doesn't mean I'm not feeling for what Paul's going through on what should have been the happiest day of his life. Paul is pacing. WTH is going on in there. Sonny - What is that supposed to mean? Sonny - That's for me to know and for you to find out. Sonny - That's all you're going to give me? Ben - For now. Sonny - You need to answer me this one question. Why are you doing this now? Will has been dead for almost two years, why are you doing this now! Ben - Why do you think. Paul & JJ walk in. Ben continues - I heard you were getting married and I thought for God's sake he's already married ... to Will. Abby ends her call with Gabi. Gabi is hanging in there. Abby is glad Arianna wasn't there for the most of it. It would be horrible for her to hear her Dad was alive and then find out it wasn't true. Chad is really proud of Abigail. You could have easily flipped out with everything leading up to this ... Fr. Louis backing out, the annulment ... Abby thinks they both freaked out when the annulment almost didn't go through. But you're right the old Abby would have thought this was some kind of omen, a sign that we were jinxed. Chad calls the new Abby a 'prize fighter'. Abby doesn't expect smooth sailing but she knows they'll make it to the other side. Abe needs to know that neither of them has changed their mind about being considered for the position especially given the minefield they're going to step into on day one. They haven't. They're both fine with answering to the other. They love and respect each other and they respect him and the decision he's made. Segment 5 Abe - Congratulations and good luck. He leaves. Hope and Rafe both say are you sure you're okay with this. Rafe is okay. So is Hope. Kiss. Hug. Abby tells Chad where she got that right hook. Will taught her how to stand up for herself when she was a little girl. Will tends to do that. He does things for other people and doesn't take credit for it. Gosh I miss him. So does Chad. Paul - Sonny is not married to Will. You killed him. He's dead! Ben - You're wrong. JJ - Put up or shut up Weston. If Will is alive where's the evidence. Paul - Oh he's got no evidence because there is no evidence. Sonny you know that to be true. Sonny - I know it doesn't seem possible. Paul - Sonny you listened to what he had to say. You gave him a chance. He had nothing to say. Look Will is as dead today as he was 2 years ago. Marlena - I should tell you that even before Ben interrupted the wedding I'd been thinking of Will all day. I was watching Justin performing the ceremony and I saw it back too ... the day I married Will and Sonny. That was perfect. Will had accepted who he was. He was so proud. He'd found Sonny and he loved him so and the three of them, Will, Sonny and Arianna were about to have a beautiful, long life together. The kind of wonderful and happy life that we've had the great good fortune to enjoy. John - Yes we have. Segment 6 Kate thinks they're more fren-enemy than friend. Andre - Depends on the day. Kate is glad that he was there today. Maybe the light of Chad and Abigail's love did make your heart less dark. Andre - Are you mocking my speech. She isn't. She thought it was a lovely speech. Thank you for everything. Hug. Andre is going to check with Chad. Abby asks if they should call Doug and Julie and have them donate the reception food to the Food Bank. Chad thinks they should check on Sonny and Paul first. He's surprised they haven't called yet. Abby says maybe they can ask someone else. She calls JJ. JJ tells her that Ben is still stringing Sonny along. He still says he's telling the truth but he's got no details, nothing to back it up. Of course he doesn't, it's a lie. Don't let this ruin your day. Abby doesn't think anything could ruin this day. Thanks for having my back JJ. JJ - Always. Ben - Sonny doesn't know Will's dead. You feel it in your heart, don't you? Will's out there. Paul - Sonny I know you feel you owe Will every chance there is to find out if this is true. You've given him that chance now let's just go before he spews anymore of this crap. Sonny - You're right. This was a waste of time. Ben - You'll see that it wasn't in good time. Paul - Sonny hey do not let him steal your happiness. Let's get married today ... now. They leave. Segment 7 JJ goes into the interrogation room. Ben has his head on the table. Hey man, I'm hungry. I was really hoping I'd get a piece of that wedding cake. The sanitarium slop is even worse then the jail slop. JJ - You know how they should have fixed that for you, the electric chair. Ben - Weren't you listening to me, I'm innocent. I didn't kill Will. JJ grabs him by the hair - You didn't kill Will. What about the others huh! What about Serena. What about Paige. Did you kill them or are they alive too. Abe joins John and Marlena in the Pub. Marlena - Alright tell me, what's happening with Ben? Abe - Just as we expected, nothing. Marlena - Well there's no surprise. Abe - I thought you'd like to know I've chosen a new Police Commissioner. John - Yeah, alright who? Hope is on the phone with Kate. No need to be concerned, Clyde is still safely behind bars. She sits on the bench with Rafe. Are you okay? Rafe - Yeah I was thinking about Paige. Hope - It's got to be tough seeing Ben. Rafe - We've got a lot of work to focus on ... I'm going to keep my head on straight Commissioner Brady ... or should I call you boss. Kiss. Abby - Guess now all we do is wait. Chad only has sex on the brain. Abby suggest they practice. They kiss. Paul is following Sonny through the square. You have to tell me what you're thinking. Sonny - I love you but I can't do this. Paul - You actually believe what he said. Sonny - I thought I'd hear him out and I'd know for sure that he was lying to me. Paul - But you don't know for sure. Sonny - I don't know. I just know that I can't marry you, not today. Ben - I told you JJ I'm innocent. I wouldn't have been driven to do any of this if it wasn't for your slut of a sister. JJ - Don't say another word about her. One more time, what about Paige. Ben - WTH do you care about Paige. Aren't you the one that broke her heart sleeping with her Mama. Eve was hot! JJ snaps - Shut up. Ben - Oh everyone keeps telling me to talk and to shut up. It's very confusing. JJ - For the third time, what about Paige! Ben - Paige ... Paige ... is she dead or alive ... she's worm-food, I'm sorry. He starts to laugh. JJ pulls his gun and aims it Ben's head. I could do this world a favour and wipe you off the planet right now. Ben stands up and puts his forehead against the muzzle and stares at JJ. |
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| laurondo | Oct 3 2017, 03:34 PM Post #159 |
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Yes! There are plenty of other ways for them to put WilSon back together if that's what they're going for. |
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| moniker11 | Oct 3 2017, 03:35 PM Post #160 |
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I think in Paul's mind by getting married they've dismissed Ben's crazy rantings and can move on in their lives. As long as they remain apart and listen to Ben he's basically torturing Sonny and Paul cannot handle that. |
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