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| Wednesday, October 4, 2017 Episode Discussion | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 3 2017, 05:47 PM (8,776 Views) | |
| funone | Oct 4 2017, 02:50 PM Post #101 |
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Not currently.abby had a mental break whereas Ben is full on cookoo. |
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| Loving80sDays | Oct 4 2017, 02:58 PM Post #102 |
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Anyone else think that possibly Abe said something to John and Marlena, about the new commissioner that we are unaware of? That Hope as commissioner is really a fake out??? Sami strolls into town, J&M are already working on getting to the truth or lies of Ben's claims??? |
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| Rosebud | Oct 4 2017, 03:01 PM Post #103 |
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Hope has the nerve to reprimand JJ when she went over to Stefano’s house, pointed a gun at him and shot? At least Hope asked JJ to come to the station, not meet her in the park. BF has an interesting way of getting choked up in a scene. :blink: |
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| Loving80sDays | Oct 4 2017, 03:12 PM Post #104 |
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Weird, but somehow during the ending moments of show, All I could think was that Peter Blake's son was marrying Abigail. |
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| funone | Oct 4 2017, 03:15 PM Post #105 |
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Why? |
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| The Phoenix | Oct 4 2017, 03:31 PM Post #106 |
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Yeah but with his reasoning Abigail was insane at the time. Despite him saying otherwise back than. I'm not saying she is crazier than Ben but his specific example goes both ways. |
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| funone | Oct 4 2017, 03:33 PM Post #107 |
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But isn't he referring to Ben in the present tense? How does that currently apply to Abby? |
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| PatNS | Oct 4 2017, 03:39 PM Post #108 |
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Please note: This report is not to be copied and pasted to any other sites. Please link only. Link to summary archive: http://www.network54.com/Forum/358635/ Director: Albert Alarr Scriptwriter: Carolyn Culliton Segment 1 Jen is brides room at the church with Thomas on her lap. She guides his finger to hit Submit on her Tablet. There we go. This day did not turn out the way we wanted to, did it sweetie. But you know what everyone is safe and no one got hurt and your Mom and Dad are going to get married again and you're going to have the most beautiful, happy life together. Andre - I do hope you're right about that. Jen - Why wouldn't I be? Andre - Have you had any word on the status of the nuptials? Jen - No we're just in a holding pattern right now. Chad and Abigail don't want to move ahead with anything until they find out what Sonny wants to do. Sonny enters the chapel. Abby goes to him and hugs him. Sonny how are you? Are you okay? Sonny - I guess so. Chad - Hey. Hug. Where's ... why isn't Paul here with you. Paul is sitting on the bench in the square. Lani sees him. Paul, has anything more happened? Paul - Where have you been? Lani sits next to him - They sent me to interview the staff at Bayview where Ben was being held. Paul - Or supposed to be held. Lani - Right. I wish I was dancing at your wedding reception right now. Paul - You have no idea how much I wish that too. What'd you find out? Lani - That Ben managed to steal a set of keys from a nurse and that he was acting alone. Paul - What about that crazy theory that Will's still alive? Lani - No one there knew anything about that. Paul - That's his story and he's sticking to it. Lani - Yeah like he was when I left Headquarters. Paul - They let Sonny talk to him. He just kept talking in circles. Sonny almost lost it. I finally had to drag him out of there. Lani - Maybe a cop will have better luck. Paul - Yeah that's what I'm hoping. When I left JJ was having a go at it. Repeat of the conversation leading to JJ pulling his gun on Ben and Ben leaning into the muzzle. Abe is holding a press conference in the park off the square with Hope at his side. Miss Brady is not only a first rate detective with years of experience but she is also one of the finest people that its ever been my privilege to know and I'm looking forward to working with her as Commissioner. Questions. Man - Mr. Mayor? Abe - Terry. Terry - What's the latest status on Ben Weston? Abe - Weston's in custody and I've been assured by Commissioner Brady that he's going to stay there so the citizens of Salem don't have to worry. Terry - One more thing. Abe - Always one more thing with you Terry. Hope steps aside and joins Rafe. Commissioner Brady ... does have a nice ring to it, doesn't it? I'm going to miss you as my partner but that was going to happen no matter which one of got picked. Hope - You're still my partner in every way. Rafe - Better believe it! We need to find a way to celebrate this fine new position. Kiss. Call me. Hope - Yeah. Sonny - I told Paul that I want to talk to the two of you alone. Abby - Why? Sonny - Because I think he's going to need some breathing room. I just told him I can't marry him today. Chad - Are you sure about that? Ben's insane. He doesn't know what's real and what's not. Abby - I talked to JJ this morning and he said Ben wasn't really saying anything so did something change. Sonny - No. It was just different ways of saying Will is still alive. Chad - And you believe him? Sonny - Paul doesn't. Neither does anybody else but as long as I have the tiniest bit of doubt I have to get to the bottom of this. Abby - Sorry. Chad - If Ben is messing with you, us, I'm going to kill him with my bare hands, I swear. I'm sorry. So what's it going to take to convince you. Sonny - I wish I knew. JJ - You know what, I actually used to feel sorry for you for what Clyde did to you as a kid. But you are just like he is, scum. Ben - You know what you are JJ. A lying, cheating phony just like your whore of a sister. JJ snaps - I told you don't say another word about my sister. Ben - You mean the whore? JJ pulls back the safety. If you don't shut up I will shut you up! Again Ben puts his forehead to the muzzle. Segment 2 Jen puts Thomas down. Abby told me how supportive you were of her when she came back to town and I really appreciate that. Andre - I can see how good she is to my brother. I must say I'm really happy the two of them found a way to come back to each other. Jen smiles - Do you think Kate will ever come around to your way of thinking. Andre - She already is. She's just concerned about your brother as you are. Have you had any word from Lucas? Jen - No and if hears what Ben has to say about Will I have no idea how he'll react. Sonny - The reason I wanted to talk to the two of you is I do not want Ben to ruin your wedding day. Paul and I can't get married but the two of you can. It would really help Paul and me to see you two happy. Chad - Well we'll talk about it. Lani - Where's Sonny now? Paul - With Chad and Abigail. He's telling them that he decided he can't go through with the wedding if there's any chance Will's still alive. Lani - Maybe Sonny just needs time to process everything that happened today. Paul - Yeah, I guess. Lani - I have to get back to the station. Are you going to be okay alone? Do you want me to call your Dad or anything. Paul - No I just need time to process too. Lani - I'll let you know if I find out anything new. Hope and Rafe return to the squad room. The cops there clap. Hope - Thank you. Really. Everyone back to work, business as usual. Thank you. JJ - Life in a rubber room must be pretty boring. A bullet in the head could be just what you came here looking for. Is that why you wrecked my sister's wedding. Is that why you said Will is alive? To make us all as crazy as you are so one of us would put you out of your misery! Ben - I said that Will is alive because he is. JJ - No he is not. Now either you tell me why you're putting his loved ones through this or you will leave this room in a body bag. Hope opens the door, Rafe is behind her. She snaps - Holster your weapon right now. Detective! Segment 3 Abe holds out a chair for Valerie at a table in the Pub. Val - I saw the press conference. How did you finally decide on Hope? Abe - History. She started at the Academy right out of high school. She's got seniority and a distinguished service record. Val - But didn't you also mention that she has a prison record. Abe - She was cleared. Val - Do the people know that? Abe - I checked with my office and we're not being flooded by protests of her selection. Val - Then you were right. Abe - And she's also a member of an old, respected Salem family and the new Commissioner has to be squeaky clean. Val - And Rafe isn't? Abe - His father's in prison and his brother was just arrested for running a counterfeit racket with the previous Commissioner. Val - Wow, that is a lot to get over. Abe - It's not fair but his FBI experience is an asset to the force in any capacity. Val - Well speaking of FBI experience, how are Eli's prospects looking? Abe - I told you I would love to have Eli on the police force. Val - Well that's just great, thank you very much. Abe - No don't thank me yet. Whoever we hire is going to work with Rafe and Rafe has a vote and he might have a problem working with Eli. Hope - I said holster your weapon Detective. JJ does. He's playing games. He's not answering my questions. He needed to know I meant business. Ben - He said he wanted to put a bullet in my head so he could ... JJ freaks - Shut your mouth or I'll shut it for you! Rafe - Deveraux! Hope - I think you're done here JJ. JJ - I don't think you can make that call. Rafe - Actually she can make that call. Why don't you say hello to the new Commissioner. Hope - You pull yourself together and we'll talk later. JJ - Yes ma'am. He leaves the room. Lani sees JJ in the squad room. Hey what happened in there? JJ - Can we just get out of here? Lani - Yeah sure. Hope sits down across the table from Ben. Ben - That was police brutality. I'll be suing this department. Rafe - You should do that. You'd make a great witness for yourself. Ben - Sonny Kiriakis believes what I say. Hope - I wouldn't count on that. All this little stunt is going to get you is a one way ticket back to Bayview. Ben yells - You try and send ... you send me back there you will never find out what I know about Will. Sonny finds Paul on the bench in the square. He sits down next to him. Hey. Paul - Did you go to the church? Chad and Abigail going to go through with the wedding? Sonny - I hope so. I did my best to sell them on the idea. What about us? Paul - What about us? Sonny - I'm so sorry. Paul - For what? Sonny - For everything that happened today. I'm so sorry. Paul - You didn't make it happen. Sonny - I was sure you'd be my husband by now. Paul - Well you need to know whether Ben's lying about Will, I understand. Sonny - Do you? I mean do you really. Paul - Yeah I'm trying hard to understand, I really am but I have to admit it's really hard. Abby - Sonny says this is what he really wants so do we bring all of the guests back or not? I just think it's been a pretty stressful day. I don't really feel like a blushing bride right now. Chad - I know this isn't the wedding that you wanted. We can call the guests and get them back here ... Abby - No, no, it's too much. Andre - Do you think we should try and reach Lucas? Jen - I left him a message before you got here. Thank you, it's nice of you to care. Andre - Well we're family now. Family's as important to the DiMera's as it is to the Hortons. Two of Salem's greatest dynasties will be joined forever. Jen - Okay we Hortons do not think of ourselves as a dynasty. Andre - Well you're part of that now. Chad and Abby come in. Andre - Oh Chad and Abigail, we were so concerned about you. Jen - He just fell asleep. Abby - Poor guy. Chad - What are you doing here? Andre - I came to see Jennifer to see if the wedding was going to take place today. Abby - We just spoke to Sonny and he says he wants us to go ahead with it. Jen - And are you? Abby - I think so. Chad was just getting ready to contact everybody to have them come back but I just think it's too much. Jen - Why? Abby - I don't know. They've all seen us do it before and the important thing is he and I still have each other. We got him, we got ourselves a couple witnesses right here. Jen - Oh wait so you are going to do it then. Chad - Yes. Jen - I'm so glad. Andre - So am I. Abby - There's one problem though. Segment 4 Abby - There's just nobody to marry us. Chad - It seems kind of insensitive to get Justin back here now that Sonny's not getting married. Jen - I see what you mean. Andre - Well certainly there must be someone in the glut of the family members that were here that could be ordained quickly. Chad - Marlena's dealing with what she heard about Will and Adrienne. Andre - This is ridiculous. Listen I can find a list of people who can perform the duties even if I have to ... Chad - Don't finish that sentence. Abby - We have a licence. Maybe we can just over to City Hall. Jen - No you can't do that. This church is where you got christened, where you made your Holy Communion and I ... Andre - I have a list of licenced officiates. They look at his phone. Chad - I don't want to get married by an officiate from Weddings R Us. Abby laughs - Me either. Fr. Louis walks in - Oh, you're still here. Abby - Father! Oh my gosh, how are you? Hug. I thought you had a family emergency. Fr. L - Yes my sister took ill but she's in the hospital. She's doing much better, thank you. Jen - Father that's great. Fr. L - I was sorry to hear you postponed your wedding. Chad - Actually we decided to go through with it. Abby - Especially if you'd be willing to marry us. If you're up for it. Fr. L - Absolutely and it would be my pleasure. Lani follows JJ through the gates into the park. JJ - I shouldn't have pulled my gun on Ben. I was out of control and that's on me but Hope could have done this another way. She busted my chops in front of the guy who kidnapped my sister. He murdered my girlfriend. Lani - What's going to happen now? JJ - Hope said she wanted to talk to me. I don't know what she's going to say. Lani - She knows what Ben put your family through okay. She'll probably just take you off the case. JJ - You should have heard him Lani. The way he talked to me about Paige. He called my sister a whore. Lani - You should have never been in that room alone with him. JJ - Well I didn't get anything out of him, that's for sure. That smug little S.O.B. ... he was having a blast and I let him get to me. I was just trying to scare him but the only person that's going to pay is me. Rafe grabs Ben by the throat and pushes him back in his chair - Let's get something straight. You're not the one issuing ultimatums. Do you hear me! Hope snaps - Back off Hernandez. Rafe - What is it with you? You got a sweet spot for this guy. Hope - I'd rather have him in police custody then send him back to the place he's already escaped from. Should I have Rafe take you down to a cell. Rafe - It's a long way. Hope - Ben, if Will really is alive and your sentence reflects a crime you didn't commit ... okay ... she gets up and gets a legal pad and pen and then sits on the table. If you don't feel like talking I'll take off the cuffs and you can write down everything that you know. Swear it's the truth and sign it and maybe we can work something out. Paul - Sonny you were in Paris when Will died. Lucas and Sami identified his body. Now how could a doctor and Will's parents make that kind of mistake. Sonny - I know. I totally get that and I agree with you. But what does Ben get out of saying what he knows is an out and out lie. Paul - Ben's psychotic. Who knows what he gets out of it. What I do know is that when we thought Ben was safely locked up in Bayview you were feeling guilty about moving on with me. Maybe this is giving you a reason not to ... Sonny - Hold on Paul. You're the first man that I ever loved. I love you with all of my heart and soul. Paul - Well I may have been the first but I let you down. And then you met Will and you loved him with all of your heart and soul and you want what Ben said to be true. So yeah I get it. I mean I wish that I could take the pain away of Will's from you and all the people who loved him. I mean that. I wish I really could. I wish that what Ben was saying was true. Sonny - Really? Paul - Yeah. God yes. Sonny - You're amazing and I know I'm asking so much of you. With a guy like Ben just leaves me wondering ... is there any truth to it. He's close to crying. Paul - Takes you back to that time, right. Sonny - I just feel like I'm losing Will all over again. Paul - Sorry. Sonny - No you have nothing to be sorry for. Paul - I meant that I'm sorry for you. Sonny - Paul are you willing to wait until I get the answers I need or did I ruin everything between us. The wedding party is at the altar. Fr. L - We have gathered to celebrate the joining of Abigail and Chad in a covenant of love. This covenant is a promise of hope between two people who love each other, who understand that their love is a gift from God and to trust that that love will unite them forever. Segment 5 Fr. L - The union of husband and wife in heart, body and mind is intended by God for their mutual joy, for the health and comfort given each other in the wealth of prosperity and adversity. And when it is God's will, for the procreation of children and their nurturing in the knowledge and love of the Lord. Therefore marriage is not to be entered into unadvisedly, lightly but relevantly and deliberately. Thomas starts to fuss. Chad - Sorry Father, we did this part the first time. I think my son would really appreciate it if you just speed it up. Fr. L - Okay. So if anyone here has just cause to ... Abby laughs and says something and turns to comfort Thomas. Ben - I want a lawyer. Hope - You've already been convicted. No lawyer will agree to represent you without knowing you have something concrete to give us. Ben - So I'm just supposed to tell you what you want to know and then I get sent back to the cracker factory. Hope - I didn't say that. Ben - I'm not an idiot. Hope - Ben you went to a lot of trouble to escape Bayview on Abigail's and Sonny's wedding day now you've got nothing to say. You had a lot to say before. I can ship you back to Bayview or prison, whatever I want. You're on borrowed time, you realise that, don't you. She slams her hand on the table. You need to tell me right now what you know about Will or there will be no deal to be made. Do you understand, not ever. Paul - I know Ben's just screwing with us and I also know you don't want to believe that, do you? Sonny - I just have to know 100% and I think Will's parents are going to feel the same way. Paul - Okay if you want to know the truth ... Sonny - Of course I do. Paul - And multiple eye witnesses aren't enough for you and a coroner's report than what you need to do is exhume Will's body. Segment 6 Val - What could Rafe Hernandez possibly have against my son. Abe - You remember that incident with ex-Commissioner Raines. Val - When Raines was holding Rafe's sister hostage, yes of course and Eli saved Gabi's life. Abe - Well Rafe might have a different perspective. Val - And what perspective would that be? Abe - He thinks that Eli took an enormous chance by firing at Raines while he was holding Gabi in front of him. Val - Well what was he supposed to do? Let Raines push Gabi into a car and take off with her? Abe - I understand what you're saying. Val - And didn't you just say Raines partner was Rafe's own brother. Abe - Val I'm not arguing with you, I'm just telling you how Rafe feels. He's a very protective big brother. Val - I see that. Abe - You know he might also be a little touchy because he lost the Commissioner job to his fiancée but I will definitely speak to Hope about Eli. Val - Thank you, I'm counting on you. Abe - But Eli should be prepared for the fact that it might not be smooth sailing. Rafe returns to the interrogation room. Hope - Did you get Ben to the holding cell safely without incident. Rafe - And I made sure that he was alone. Hope - I wasn't really going to ask the DA to make a deal with him, you know that right. Rafe - The law says we can use trickery to get information out of a suspect. Hope - I'd say anything to get that particular information. Rafe - Yup and Ben would say just about anything to keep from going back to Bayview. Hope - I have to try for Lucas, Sami and Sonny. Rafe - What about what JJ did? Hope shakes her head - Threatening somebody in custody with a gun obviously there's got to be a consequence. How harsh do you think I should be? Rafe - It's up to you boss. JJ sits on the bench. I know I have a temper but I'm not going to apologise for what I did today. I was never going to hurt the guy. Lani - I know that. JJ - As much as I wanted to! His cell rings. Deveraux. I'll be right there. Hope wants me back at the squad room ASAP. Lani - Was that her on the phone? Any idea what she's going to say? JJ - I guess I'm about to find out. Sonny - You want me to have Will's body exhumed! Paul - Sorry but DNA testing is the only way to prove that Ben is lying. Sonny - No. No. No, no. There has to be another way. Paul - Okay Sonny judging by your reaction you know that Will is in that cemetery. I know that too. But if absolute proof is the only way that you're going to get closure then there's no other way to do this. Abby - It's okay, I think he just wants his Mom. She takes Thomas from Jen. Look there's Daddy. We're getting married again. I'll just keep holding him if that's okay. Fr. L - It's okay. Abby - Awesome. Our love's the reason he's here. He makes our love stronger every day. Chad - You are the one and only love of my life and if you ever have any doubts about that put them away because I'm yours forever. He leans in for a kiss. Fr. L - Wait, not quite yet. Chad - Okay. The last three months has shown me that the three of us can't live without each other. It's just the way it belongs and I want him to the best of us ... smart, funny, strong ... Abby - Like you. Chad - Actually I was talking about you. Segment 7 Fr. L - Chad will you have Abigail to be your wife to love her, comfort her, honour and keep her in sickness and in health and forsaking all others be faithful to her for as long as you both shall live. Chad - I will. Fr. L - Abigail ... Chad - One second. I know it's unorthodox since we've passed the engagement stage but this belongs to you. He has her ring. Abby - How do you still have that? Chad - It's the first ring I ever gave you. Sorry. Fr. L - It's okay. Abigail will you have Chad to be your husband to love him, comfort him, honour and keep him in sickness and in health and forsaking all others be faithful to him for as long as you both shall live. Abby - She nods. Fr. L - Oh God, faithful and true, whose steadfast love endures forever we give thanks to You for supporting Abigail and Chad in their life together and for bringing them to this day. Nurture them and fill them with joy in their life together now and forever. Amen. Hope is pacing in the interrogation room. JJ comes in. Hope - Sit down. He does. Hope - I wish this wasn't my first personnel decision as Commissioner. We're family. You've become a damned good cop JJ. I can't look past what happened today. You are suspended without pay until further notice. Give me your badge and your service weapon. JJ puts them on the table. Hope - Stay the hell away from Ben Weston, understood? JJ - Anything else. Hope - You're dismissed. Lani sees him in the squad room - JJ. He walks out. Lani looks at Hope and follows. Hope says something to Rafe about not getting this job (I think she asks if he regrets not getting it). Sonny - I know Ben is out of his mind. I despise the idea of disrupting anyone's grave, especially Will's but I feel that I have to ask for this to be done. Chad is putting a ring on Abby's finger. Abigail receive this ring as a symbol of my everlasting love. Abby puts a ring on Chad's finger. Chad receive this ring as a symbol of my everlasting love. Fr. L - Please join your right hands. As Chad and Abigail have exchanged vows of love and fidelity in the presence of God and the church I now pronounce that they are bound to each other in the Holy Covenant as long as they both shall live. Andre claps - Finally. Fr. L - And now you can kiss the bride. Kiss. Andre and Jen and Thomas use bubble makers so that bubble float over the couple. |
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| concerned | Oct 4 2017, 03:51 PM Post #109 |
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Abby is going to start needing a wedding dress room as big as Sami's. |
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| concerned | Oct 4 2017, 03:56 PM Post #110 |
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Well there goes that sense of excitement from yesterday.... |
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| KweenBoda | Oct 4 2017, 04:00 PM Post #111 |
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So Hope will be a corrupt commissioner too. I'm shocked!..coughs. |
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| KBrady | Oct 4 2017, 04:07 PM Post #112 |
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Why is Rafe standing behind Hope speaking for her. So annoying. Too much of the same characters over several days. I need a break from every single one of them. |
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| missmeka1987_ | Oct 4 2017, 04:08 PM Post #113 |
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Long Live Stefano (RIP JOE)
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Pretty good episode.. |
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| Amazee-Dayzee | Oct 4 2017, 04:19 PM Post #114 |
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Question about something. Wasn't there something said about them recreating the scene where Ben murdered GW!Will with CM!Will or did I just imagine that? |
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| sway | Oct 4 2017, 04:28 PM Post #115 |
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It has been confirmed that Will's death was reshot with CM. |
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| Will'sgirl2017 | Oct 4 2017, 04:29 PM Post #116 |
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I think those scenes might be coming up, they did reshoot the strangling with CM will. It was an okay ep, not that exciting. |
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| KBrady | Oct 4 2017, 04:34 PM Post #117 |
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Abe and Valerie discussing Rafe is the worst! If I were Hope I would have punched Rafe out when he asked her if she had a crush on Ben Edited by KBrady, Oct 4 2017, 05:21 PM.
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| The Phoenix | Oct 4 2017, 05:19 PM Post #118 |
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If Ben is insane for that than Abby would also be considered insane despite Chad saying otherwise at the time. So it is a hypocritical thing to say regardless if she is better now as he would never classify Abby as insane. Furthermore Mental Illnesses don't vanish and Abby almost relapsed on Monday so in essence it STILL does apply to her. |
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| talbab1994 | Oct 4 2017, 05:20 PM Post #119 |
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Love JJ's suit! Again, loving me some RSW too! When Abe said that they wanted someone with a squeaky clean record and that's why Hope got the Commissioner job, my hubby and I rolled our eyes. Yeah, she just killed a man and then she and her partner took his dead body and put him in a building that was being demolished. Then and THEN, she suspends JJ....major eye rolling.... I've completely lost any respect for the characters of Hope and Rafe. Absolutely lost.... |
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| funone | Oct 4 2017, 05:21 PM Post #120 |
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But at least (with the exception of Dario) it's all to the same man. |
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