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Friday, October 13th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 12 2017, 06:53 PM (19,013 Views)
Lovejm


To the point above, it's almost a shame that that isn't what happens because that would've been a pretty wild moment for John and Sami to see that the grave was empty and for Paul to realize it. Then they would've had to go back and tell Marlena and Sonny and Lucas etc that there was nothing in the grave
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laurondo
Oct 16 2017, 02:54 AM
Rosebud
Oct 16 2017, 01:08 AM
laurondo
Oct 16 2017, 12:27 AM

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by Paul Narita
That’s not the only reason he shouldn’t have dragged John into it. It was selfish.
Well I agree he shouldn't have dragged John into it but John is a grown ass man. He's capable of saying no.
I already don’t like this new writing regime... John wouldn’t do this, John wouldn’t tell Paul Sami’s a loose cannon...even when Sami was at her worst and treated John horribly he was always there for her and he would never say things like that about her (except during other bad writing that didn’t get John and Sami...I hope this regime isn’t similar to those). I’m not looking forward to more of this family “drama” that seems it will pit John and his two sons against Marlena and her children. John and Marlena would never take sides! That’s 💩

And John wouldn’t dig up Will’s body in the dead of night for anyone. Dear god, that’s the kind of thing Kristen used to do. And he wouldn’t do it without telling Marlena. Hanging up on her? Rubbish.
Edited by Rosebud, Oct 16 2017, 10:34 AM.
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Tammy
Oct 16 2017, 06:01 AM
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Oct 16 2017, 04:52 AM
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Oct 16 2017, 02:54 AM

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by Paul Narita
I agree. Paul and John are doing this together. If you're mad at Paul, you should be mad at John too. They are both responsible for their own actions.
I agree... John looked like a pretty big dumbass!
Paul tends to make him look that way.
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Oct 16 2017, 04:52 AM
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Oct 16 2017, 02:54 AM
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Oct 16 2017, 01:08 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThree Quick Steps to Respectfully Digging Up a Grave

by Paul Narita
Well I agree he shouldn't have dragged John into it but John is a grown ass man. He's capable of saying no.
I agree. Paul and John are doing this together. If you're mad at Paul, you should be mad at John too. They are both responsible for their own actions.
Yes, but who was it that had the idea to do this? Who was the one in such a rush to do it? Who wanted to do it for totally selfish reasons? Who asked John to do it? Who came up with the stupid BS excuse of doing it with respect?
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Lovejm


John and Marlena haven't taken sides. Not yet at least. If anything John's been balancing Marlena's hope with Paul's misery and Marlena now needs to turn around and tell John tomorrow about Eric and Brady. As far at they know, Eric is the one who caused Brady's broken heart (since they don't know what Brady's doing)

For all we know their exact conversation tomorrow is that they realize they can't and won't take sides. There's nothing wrong with complexity.
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Forgot to say that I don't buy, even for a second, that deadbeat Bill Horton has ever given JJ or any of his grandchildren anything. Miss me with this bs.
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Oct 16 2017, 10:42 AM
Forgot to say that I don't buy, even for a second, that deadbeat Bill Horton has ever given JJ or any of his grandchildren anything. Miss me with this bs.
Horace the binturong!?
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Finally watched this morning. Brady was awesome!
He's acting a lot like Victor, I assume that is the point.
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Oct 16 2017, 10:28 AM
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Oct 16 2017, 04:52 AM
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Oct 16 2017, 02:54 AM

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by Paul Narita
I agree. Paul and John are doing this together. If you're mad at Paul, you should be mad at John too. They are both responsible for their own actions.
Yes, but who was it that had the idea to do this? Who was the one in such a rush to do it? Who wanted to do it for totally selfish reasons? Who asked John to do it? Who came up with the stupid BS excuse of doing it with respect?
Clearly you put most of the blame on Paul for this. But at the end of the day, John is a willing participant. I think the blame should be equal but I could make a case that John is older, wiser, is used to people returning from the dead, and should be able to think a lot more clearly than Paul whose life blew up the day before.
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Hugo
Oct 16 2017, 11:37 AM
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Oct 16 2017, 10:28 AM
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Oct 16 2017, 04:52 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThree Quick Steps to Respectfully Digging Up a Grave

by Paul Narita
Yes, but who was it that had the idea to do this? Who was the one in such a rush to do it? Who wanted to do it for totally selfish reasons? Who asked John to do it? Who came up with the stupid BS excuse of doing it with respect?
Clearly you put most of the blame on Paul for this. But at the end of the day, John is a willing participant. I think the blame should be equal but I could make a case that John is older, wiser, is used to people returning from the dead, and should be able to think a lot more clearly than Paul whose life blew up the day before.
Plus Ima need them to exhume that grave before they use not exhuming it to undo this story in a year.
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lysie
Oct 16 2017, 11:40 AM
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Oct 16 2017, 11:37 AM
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Oct 16 2017, 10:28 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThree Quick Steps to Respectfully Digging Up a Grave

by Paul Narita
Clearly you put most of the blame on Paul for this. But at the end of the day, John is a willing participant. I think the blame should be equal but I could make a case that John is older, wiser, is used to people returning from the dead, and should be able to think a lot more clearly than Paul whose life blew up the day before.
Plus Ima need them to exhume that grave before they use not exhuming it to undo this story in a year.
As a viewer, I'm rooting for the people who want to dig up the grave because I'm curious. And that's on any show. I'm surprised so many people have a big issue with this. Yes it's wrong and illegal but a lot of times heroes do things like this. I suppose we'll see if John and Paul are vilified for their actions or not.
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Oct 16 2017, 11:47 AM
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Oct 16 2017, 11:40 AM
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Oct 16 2017, 11:37 AM

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by Paul Narita
Plus Ima need them to exhume that grave before they use not exhuming it to undo this story in a year.
As a viewer, I'm rooting for the people who want to dig up the grave because I'm curious. And that's on any show. I'm surprised so many people have a big issue with this. Yes it's wrong and illegal but a lot of times heroes do things like this. I suppose we'll see if John and Paul are vilified for their actions or not.
This is also something John's actually done before too. Like lysie said, what happens if they don't dig up this grave, find will and then later it's so easy to say this new will is an imposter and that Will's still in that grave.
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Oct 16 2017, 11:37 AM
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Oct 16 2017, 10:28 AM
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Oct 16 2017, 04:52 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThree Quick Steps to Respectfully Digging Up a Grave

by Paul Narita
Yes, but who was it that had the idea to do this? Who was the one in such a rush to do it? Who wanted to do it for totally selfish reasons? Who asked John to do it? Who came up with the stupid BS excuse of doing it with respect?
Clearly you put most of the blame on Paul for this. But at the end of the day, John is a willing participant. I think the blame should be equal but I could make a case that John is older, wiser, is used to people returning from the dead, and should be able to think a lot more clearly than Paul whose life blew up the day before.
My argument is with the writing. I’ve never said a John is right in this. I think he’s being stupid, but also manipulated. I don’t like what Paul said in these scenes, and I don’t care how old either of them are. Paul doesn’t get a pass just because he’s younger and not as wise as John or he’s scared Will is alive. And John doesn’t get a pass for letting Paul talk him into it. I actually don’t get the point of this little plot point other than to give Sweeney a way to enter dramatically.
Edited by Rosebud, Oct 16 2017, 12:11 PM.
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Oct 16 2017, 12:03 PM
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Oct 16 2017, 11:47 AM
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Oct 16 2017, 11:40 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThree Quick Steps to Respectfully Digging Up a Grave

by Paul Narita
As a viewer, I'm rooting for the people who want to dig up the grave because I'm curious. And that's on any show. I'm surprised so many people have a big issue with this. Yes it's wrong and illegal but a lot of times heroes do things like this. I suppose we'll see if John and Paul are vilified for their actions or not.
This is also something John's actually done before too. Like lysie said, what happens if they don't dig up this grave, find will and then later it's so easy to say this new will is an imposter and that Will's still in that grave.
They've hit a lot of beats in this story so far that I feel they will take this step eventually. Maybe not until they all get back from Memphis, but it seems like such an obvious move if they think they've brought Will home. It would be beyond jarring to be able to visit your own grave (not just a plot that was purchased for future use), lol, so I hope they'd want to remove the headstone and figure out who or what is in the casket.
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Lovejm
Oct 14 2017, 08:18 AM
Loving80sDays
Oct 14 2017, 02:48 AM
Lovejm
Oct 13 2017, 11:43 AM
Marlena tells Eric she's heartbroken for Paul but has to wish Will is alive
Yeah Doc is all over the place with her emotions. There is a lot going
on, still in the past, but as recently as 2015 she was very anti Nicole.

After New Orleans 1998, while John was in Lugano with Hope, she
expressed a lot of displeasure with Eric seeing Nicole. I'm not really
trying to make a specific point about this, except to ask a question
Why has she suddenly become so reluctant to express her concern
with Eric? It feel very disingenuous coming from her.

Because in 1998 Eric was a kid and now he's a grown ass man. A man who cuts himself off when things get tough. Like roman did.

And John and Marlena's emotions are going to be all over the place, they have a mess of kids in bad situations
Also like that 20 years ago lol people change their minds, opinions, views.. she obviously isn't gonna interfere in her 40 year old son's love life lol She's not Kate haha
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Rosebud
Oct 16 2017, 10:28 AM
Hugo
Oct 16 2017, 04:52 AM
laurondo
Oct 16 2017, 02:54 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThree Quick Steps to Respectfully Digging Up a Grave

by Paul Narita
I agree. Paul and John are doing this together. If you're mad at Paul, you should be mad at John too. They are both responsible for their own actions.
Yes, but who was it that had the idea to do this? Who was the one in such a rush to do it? Who wanted to do it for totally selfish reasons? Who asked John to do it? Who came up with the stupid BS excuse of doing it with respect?
But John still chose to do it. I've realised that John coddles his kids too much and can't seem to say no to them. He could've said no and found another way to look into it.
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Wow Sami returns and we get 18 pages of comments... 😂😏🤔
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PetrovaSalvatore
Oct 16 2017, 01:49 PM
Wow Sami returns and we get 18 pages of comments... 😂😏🤔
Dark side brady helped too
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Cimz
Oct 16 2017, 10:59 AM
GoneGirl
Oct 16 2017, 10:42 AM
Forgot to say that I don't buy, even for a second, that deadbeat Bill Horton has ever given JJ or any of his grandchildren anything. Miss me with this bs.
Horace the binturong!?
:laugh: Later-day Bill seems like the kind of patriarch to compensate for his absence with material gifts.
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Oct 16 2017, 10:59 AM
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Forgot to say that I don't buy, even for a second, that deadbeat Bill Horton has ever given JJ or any of his grandchildren anything. Miss me with this bs.
Horace the binturong!?
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