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Oct 14 2017, 09:13 AM
Daysalltheway
Oct 14 2017, 08:40 AM
I love Sami. I used to like Abby but couldn’t stand that story line with her and EJ. I wouldn’t blame Sami for being mad at Abby still. She slept with her fiancée. It was terrible how everyone came to abby’s Defence over that including Will. Totally unbelievable.... plus Sami didn’t have a chance to lay the smack down. Carrie slapped the shit out of Abby when she pretended to sleep with Austin but she actually did sleep with EJ and Sami wasn’t allowed to do anything.
Woah, woah, woah! Sami wasn't allowed to do anything???? She went on the warpath. She berated Abby when she first confronted her. I mean, maybe she didn't slap her, but she went after her hard. She then blackmailed Kayla into firing Abby from the hospital. She was all about punishing Abby and EJ (pretty sure she sent EJ to jail for embezzling or something). To say she didn't get to "lay the smack down" is just false.

As far as people coming to Abby's defense, there were reasons. Jen is Abby's mother, so of course she defended her. Will thought Sami was a big hypocrite for going after Abby given that Sami slept with EJ while married to Rafe. And Sami pretty much killed Kayla's sympathy by blackmailing her. It was Sami's OTT revenge mode that alienated people. And while I don't think that you engaging in bad behavior in the past means that you don't get to get mad at other people doing the same thing to you, I do think you're delusional if you think that people aren't going to be less sympathetic when you go on a rampage about it.
I don't think Kayla (or anybody, for that matter) ever showed any sympathy for Sami, because they all had the attitude that she should have known better than to trust EJ.

I would have been infuriated in her place. Abby got everybody's sympathy. Sami got nobody's. EJ got all the blame for the fling, Abby got none, and Sami got blamed for wanting Abby to be seen as in the wrong.
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gailwinters
Oct 14 2017, 09:37 AM
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Oct 14 2017, 09:13 AM
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Oct 14 2017, 08:40 AM
I love Sami. I used to like Abby but couldn’t stand that story line with her and EJ. I wouldn’t blame Sami for being mad at Abby still. She slept with her fiancée. It was terrible how everyone came to abby’s Defence over that including Will. Totally unbelievable.... plus Sami didn’t have a chance to lay the smack down. Carrie slapped the shit out of Abby when she pretended to sleep with Austin but she actually did sleep with EJ and Sami wasn’t allowed to do anything.
Woah, woah, woah! Sami wasn't allowed to do anything???? She went on the warpath. She berated Abby when she first confronted her. I mean, maybe she didn't slap her, but she went after her hard. She then blackmailed Kayla into firing Abby from the hospital. She was all about punishing Abby and EJ (pretty sure she sent EJ to jail for embezzling or something). To say she didn't get to "lay the smack down" is just false.

As far as people coming to Abby's defense, there were reasons. Jen is Abby's mother, so of course she defended her. Will thought Sami was a big hypocrite for going after Abby given that Sami slept with EJ while married to Rafe. And Sami pretty much killed Kayla's sympathy by blackmailing her. It was Sami's OTT revenge mode that alienated people. And while I don't think that you engaging in bad behavior in the past means that you don't get to get mad at other people doing the same thing to you, I do think you're delusional if you think that people aren't going to be less sympathetic when you go on a rampage about it.
I don't think Kayla (or anybody, for that matter) ever showed any sympathy for Sami, because they all had the attitude that she should have known better than to trust EJ.

I would have been infuriated in her place. Abby got everybody's sympathy. Sami got nobody's. EJ got all the blame for the fling, Abby got none, and Sami got blamed for wanting Abby to be seen as in the wrong.
She didn’t give Kayla a chance to be sympathetic. She was blackmailing her before Kayla even knew what happened. She did get sympathy initially from Marlena and someone else (I can’t remember who was in the scene...Brady maybe?) that went away when they found out what she was doing. She didn’t act sympathetic, so she didn’t get sympathy.
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Oct 14 2017, 09:37 AM
esp13
Oct 14 2017, 09:13 AM
Daysalltheway
Oct 14 2017, 08:40 AM
I love Sami. I used to like Abby but couldn’t stand that story line with her and EJ. I wouldn’t blame Sami for being mad at Abby still. She slept with her fiancée. It was terrible how everyone came to abby’s Defence over that including Will. Totally unbelievable.... plus Sami didn’t have a chance to lay the smack down. Carrie slapped the shit out of Abby when she pretended to sleep with Austin but she actually did sleep with EJ and Sami wasn’t allowed to do anything.
Woah, woah, woah! Sami wasn't allowed to do anything???? She went on the warpath. She berated Abby when she first confronted her. I mean, maybe she didn't slap her, but she went after her hard. She then blackmailed Kayla into firing Abby from the hospital. She was all about punishing Abby and EJ (pretty sure she sent EJ to jail for embezzling or something). To say she didn't get to "lay the smack down" is just false.

As far as people coming to Abby's defense, there were reasons. Jen is Abby's mother, so of course she defended her. Will thought Sami was a big hypocrite for going after Abby given that Sami slept with EJ while married to Rafe. And Sami pretty much killed Kayla's sympathy by blackmailing her. It was Sami's OTT revenge mode that alienated people. And while I don't think that you engaging in bad behavior in the past means that you don't get to get mad at other people doing the same thing to you, I do think you're delusional if you think that people aren't going to be less sympathetic when you go on a rampage about it.
I don't think Kayla (or anybody, for that matter) showed any sympathy for Sami, because they all had the attitude that she should have known better than to trust EJ.

I would have been infuriated in her place. Abby got everybody's sympathy. Sami got nobody's. EJ got all the blame for the fling, Abby got none, and Sami got blamed for wanting Abby to be seen as in the wrong.
Maybe, but given what EJ did to Kayla and Steve, I have a hard time blaming her too much. But beyond that, Sami didn't give Kayla a chance to have any sympathy. She asked to meet her (which Kayla assumed was about John who was in a coma at the time), announced that Abby and EJ had an affair and before Kayla could react to that for more than two seconds, promptly told Kayla that she had to fire Abby or lose funding for the hospital. I honestly don't know how Kayla would have reacted if Sami had done things differently. She was close to Abby (at that time) and despised EJ, but I think she'd have still been sympathetic to Sami's feelings. But she was never given the chance to be.

Sami can be infuriated all she wants. It wasn't her anger that was the problem. But given everything she did to Austin, Carrie, Lexie, and a large portion of the population of Salem, her painting Abby as the devil incarnate was never going to go over that well. It was her scorched earth method of dealing with Abby that was the problem.
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gailwinters
Oct 14 2017, 09:37 AM
esp13
Oct 14 2017, 09:13 AM
Daysalltheway
Oct 14 2017, 08:40 AM
I love Sami. I used to like Abby but couldn’t stand that story line with her and EJ. I wouldn’t blame Sami for being mad at Abby still. She slept with her fiancée. It was terrible how everyone came to abby’s Defence over that including Will. Totally unbelievable.... plus Sami didn’t have a chance to lay the smack down. Carrie slapped the shit out of Abby when she pretended to sleep with Austin but she actually did sleep with EJ and Sami wasn’t allowed to do anything.
Woah, woah, woah! Sami wasn't allowed to do anything???? She went on the warpath. She berated Abby when she first confronted her. I mean, maybe she didn't slap her, but she went after her hard. She then blackmailed Kayla into firing Abby from the hospital. She was all about punishing Abby and EJ (pretty sure she sent EJ to jail for embezzling or something). To say she didn't get to "lay the smack down" is just false.

As far as people coming to Abby's defense, there were reasons. Jen is Abby's mother, so of course she defended her. Will thought Sami was a big hypocrite for going after Abby given that Sami slept with EJ while married to Rafe. And Sami pretty much killed Kayla's sympathy by blackmailing her. It was Sami's OTT revenge mode that alienated people. And while I don't think that you engaging in bad behavior in the past means that you don't get to get mad at other people doing the same thing to you, I do think you're delusional if you think that people aren't going to be less sympathetic when you go on a rampage about it.
I don't think Kayla (or anybody, for that matter) ever showed any sympathy for Sami, because they all had the attitude that she should have known better than to trust EJ.

I would have been infuriated in her place. Abby got everybody's sympathy. Sami got nobody's. EJ got all the blame for the fling, Abby got none, and Sami got blamed for wanting Abby to be seen as in the wrong.
Given Ej (and frankly Sami's) history,I could see why people sided with Abby. Salemites knew it was only a matter of time before Ej hurt her again so why side with someone who sort of knew he would hurt her and stayed around anyway. Plus Ej was the one in a committed relationship...vs Abby who was unattached...not saying she was not wrong for what she did, but the one with more to lose including his family was him....so people blamed him more and rightly so
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Oct 14 2017, 09:48 AM
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Oct 14 2017, 09:37 AM
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Oct 14 2017, 09:13 AM

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I don't think Kayla (or anybody, for that matter) ever showed any sympathy for Sami, because they all had the attitude that she should have known better than to trust EJ.

I would have been infuriated in her place. Abby got everybody's sympathy. Sami got nobody's. EJ got all the blame for the fling, Abby got none, and Sami got blamed for wanting Abby to be seen as in the wrong.
Given Ej (and frankly Sami's) history,I could see why people sided with Abby. Salemites knew it was only a matter of time before Ej hurt her again so why side with someone who sort of knew he would hurt her and stayed around anyway. Plus Ej was the one in a committed relationship...vs Abby who was unattached...not saying she was not wrong for what she did, but the one with more to lose including his family was him....so people blamed him more and rightly so
I think more than anything (aside from Will which was majorly problematic) people were siding against EJ, not against Sami until Sami when into destruction mode. I didn't care for how Abby-focused she was at the time. I'd think she'd have found Abby to be irrelevant and not worth her time. I didn't like the "the women are the ones at fault" tone each side took on later (and one of the most sexist scenes this show has ever done happened in the middle of that Kami/DE stuff). Man, I really don't miss TomSell.
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I don't disagree that history dictated that no one would sympathize with Sami. I do think that everyone immediately assuming that EJ seduced "poor little Abby" fueled Sami's anger. Instead of acknowledging that Abby was in the wrong, too, everyone wanted her to let Abby slide.

I'm not saying Sami didn't employee a scorched earth policy against Abby. I just understand why she would do it: no one else was going to hold Abby accountable in the least. She was right about that.
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gailwinters
Oct 14 2017, 10:13 AM
I don't disagree that history dictated that no one would sympathize with Sami. I do think that everyone immediately assuming that EJ seduced "poor little Abby" fueled Sami's anger. Instead of acknowledging that Abby was in the wrong, too, everyone wanted her to let Abby slide.

I'm not saying Sami didn't employee a scorched earth policy against Abby. I just understand why she would do it: no one else was going to hold Abby accountable in the least. She was right about that.
IDK why that would fuel Sami's anger, though. It's a natural conclusion that she probably should have come to, too (in addition to being way more grossed out than she was). Especially since she didn't know what happened either.
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Oct 14 2017, 10:13 AM
I don't disagree that history dictated that no one would sympathize with Sami. I do think that everyone immediately assuming that EJ seduced "poor little Abby" fueled Sami's anger. Instead of acknowledging that Abby was in the wrong, too, everyone wanted her to let Abby slide.

I'm not saying Sami didn't employee a scorched earth policy against Abby. I just understand why she would do it: no one else was going to hold Abby accountable in the least. She was right about that.
Given EJ's history, including the awful things he did to most of Sami's family, I don't think people's assumptions about EJ being the aggressor in the relationship were unreasonable. They disliked EJ and most of them liked Abby. But, to assume that nobody would hold Abby accountable is a bit of a leap. Jack and Jennifer held her accountable for the Austin stuff (I don't think anybody else in town knew about it). Had Sami not immediately gone to the scorched earth policy against Abby, people might have reacted differently after a little bit of time. But Sami's actions dictated their reactions.

Plus, I'm with lysie. Abby wasn't the one in a committed relationship. EJ betrayed Sami, not Abby. They weren't even friends until Sami started pretending like they were AFTER she knew about the affair. And by that time, the affair was over. I don't expect Sami to be friends with Abby or not be angry with her, but Abby didn't betray Sami, EJ did.
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Oct 14 2017, 10:25 AM
gailwinters
Oct 14 2017, 10:13 AM
I don't disagree that history dictated that no one would sympathize with Sami. I do think that everyone immediately assuming that EJ seduced "poor little Abby" fueled Sami's anger. Instead of acknowledging that Abby was in the wrong, too, everyone wanted her to let Abby slide.

I'm not saying Sami didn't employee a scorched earth policy against Abby. I just understand why she would do it: no one else was going to hold Abby accountable in the least. She was right about that.
Given EJ's history, including the awful things he did to most of Sami's family, I don't think people's assumptions about EJ being the aggressor in the relationship were unreasonable. They disliked EJ and most of them liked Abby. But, to assume that nobody would hold Abby accountable is a bit of a leap. Jack and Jennifer held her accountable for the Austin stuff (I don't think anybody else in town knew about it). Had Sami not immediately gone to the scorched earth policy against Abby, people might have reacted differently after a little bit of time. But Sami's actions dictated their reactions.

Plus, I'm with lysie. Abby wasn't the one in a committed relationship. EJ betrayed Sami, not Abby. They weren't even friends until Sami started pretending like they were AFTER she knew about the affair. And by that time, the affair was over. I don't expect Sami to be friends with Abby or not be angry with her, but Abby didn't betray Sami, EJ did.
Sami has a way of making people do exactly what she assumes they'll do. She's the queen of self-fulfilling prophecies.

That friendship thing isn't accurate though. She started that "friendship" before she knew. But I still don't think the betrayal there was Abby/Sami. Especially since the affair was before the friendship, and it wasn't like it was a deep friendship from either side anyway. The bigger betrayal there was Abby pretending to be friends in the first place. But like...that was no real loss lol.
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lysie
Oct 14 2017, 10:16 AM
gailwinters
Oct 14 2017, 10:13 AM
I don't disagree that history dictated that no one would sympathize with Sami. I do think that everyone immediately assuming that EJ seduced "poor little Abby" fueled Sami's anger. Instead of acknowledging that Abby was in the wrong, too, everyone wanted her to let Abby slide.

I'm not saying Sami didn't employee a scorched earth policy against Abby. I just understand why she would do it: no one else was going to hold Abby accountable in the least. She was right about that.
IDK why that would fuel Sami's anger, though. It's a natural conclusion that she probably should have come to, too (in addition to being way more grossed out than she was). Especially since she didn't know what happened either.
EJ took advantage of Abby. EJ was the person in the relationship & the person who cheated.
I wouldn't have expected Sami to have Abby slide, because Sami was really good at looking the other way when it came to how horrible EJ really was. Abby is and has always been a bit Loco, but Sami is not the type to let anyone skate & as usual she remained in denial when it came to EJ.

But..
I don't see anything wrong with Sami bringing her mother upto date on what she is doing.
If EJ is still dead and Sami has been running around searching for any chance that he was alive, it would be understandable that would be tiring for her & her kids. Now she is in a place in which someone else she lost, her son is hinted at being alive. For her she might just believe that someone is playing a cruel joke on her to get revenge. It makes Will being alive seem less possible. I would imagine she is broken and fearful if she goes on a wild goose chase looking for Will it might break her. I also doesn't surprise me that she goes to the D mansion, most likely looking for Andre in an attempt to locate dr Rolf since he did work & live in the D mansion. I also think it's natural for her to remember times with EJ there.

As for the kiss with Chad, it's clearly RC attempt at shock. It's him bringing the Abby & Sami situation to the surface by having Abby walk in.
It's kinda like RC had Sami show up just as John & Paul were about to dig Will's grave up.
It's for shock value, it's campy & it's soapy.
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Look at Nicole's hair, these are old pictures or they were definitely filmed out of order. Her bangs were spikey and her hair was chopped in places and shorter. and all of a sudden they are long. Bang and hair don't grow overnight. Her hair looked awful and dark roots and spikey in her last week of filming when she did her videos saying goodbye. I guess we will see this week what her hair looks like because it is a drastic change.
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lysie
Oct 14 2017, 10:29 AM
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Oct 14 2017, 10:25 AM
gailwinters
Oct 14 2017, 10:13 AM
I don't disagree that history dictated that no one would sympathize with Sami. I do think that everyone immediately assuming that EJ seduced "poor little Abby" fueled Sami's anger. Instead of acknowledging that Abby was in the wrong, too, everyone wanted her to let Abby slide.

I'm not saying Sami didn't employee a scorched earth policy against Abby. I just understand why she would do it: no one else was going to hold Abby accountable in the least. She was right about that.
Given EJ's history, including the awful things he did to most of Sami's family, I don't think people's assumptions about EJ being the aggressor in the relationship were unreasonable. They disliked EJ and most of them liked Abby. But, to assume that nobody would hold Abby accountable is a bit of a leap. Jack and Jennifer held her accountable for the Austin stuff (I don't think anybody else in town knew about it). Had Sami not immediately gone to the scorched earth policy against Abby, people might have reacted differently after a little bit of time. But Sami's actions dictated their reactions.

Plus, I'm with lysie. Abby wasn't the one in a committed relationship. EJ betrayed Sami, not Abby. They weren't even friends until Sami started pretending like they were AFTER she knew about the affair. And by that time, the affair was over. I don't expect Sami to be friends with Abby or not be angry with her, but Abby didn't betray Sami, EJ did.
Sami has a way of making people do exactly what she assumes they'll do. She's the queen of self-fulfilling prophecies.

That friendship thing isn't accurate though. She started that "friendship" before she knew. But I still don't think the betrayal there was Abby/Sami. Especially since the affair was before the friendship, and it wasn't like it was a deep friendship from either side anyway. The bigger betrayal there was Abby pretending to be friends in the first place. But like...that was no real loss lol.
I guess I got the timing wrong on the friendship thing and I agree Abby was wrong to pretend to be Sami's friend, but my recollection was that Sami was pushing a lot of things (in the time period just before the wedding) and we saw a fair amount of guilt from Abby in that. But yeah, the loss of that "friendship" wasn't any big deal anyway.
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Sami has a way of making people do exactly what she assumes they'll do. She's the queen of self-fulfilling prophecies.

That friendship thing isn't accurate though. She started that "friendship" before she knew. But I still don't think the betrayal there was Abby/Sami. Especially since the affair was before the friendship, and it wasn't like it was a deep friendship from either side anyway. The bigger betrayal there was Abby pretending to be friends in the first place. But like...that was no real loss lol.
I guess I got the timing wrong on the friendship thing and I agree Abby was wrong to pretend to be Sami's friend, but my recollection was that Sami was pushing a lot of things (in the time period just before the wedding) and we saw a fair amount of guilt from Abby in that. But yeah, the loss of that "friendship" wasn't any big deal anyway.
There was one time in particular that Abby tried to get rid of Sami by saying she was too sick to work so she'd come home to have some tea and Sami was all "make me some too." Abby did her best to stear clear of Sami and Sami kept demanding more from Abby: Teach me about art! Bake cupcakes with my kids! If I can't find you at work I'll follow you home!
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Oct 14 2017, 10:41 AM
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I guess I got the timing wrong on the friendship thing and I agree Abby was wrong to pretend to be Sami's friend, but my recollection was that Sami was pushing a lot of things (in the time period just before the wedding) and we saw a fair amount of guilt from Abby in that. But yeah, the loss of that "friendship" wasn't any big deal anyway.
There was one time in particular that Abby tried to get rid of Sami by saying she was too sick to work so she'd come home to have some tea and Sami was all "make me some too." Abby did her best to stear clear of Sami and Sami kept demanding more from Abby: Teach me about art! Bake cupcakes with my kids! If I can't find you at work I'll follow you home!
That was so weird, and I remember people thinking at the time that it was going to be revealed she knew all along. That was so unSami like.
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Oct 14 2017, 09:37 AM
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Oct 14 2017, 09:13 AM
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Oct 14 2017, 08:40 AM
I love Sami. I used to like Abby but couldn’t stand that story line with her and EJ. I wouldn’t blame Sami for being mad at Abby still. She slept with her fiancée. It was terrible how everyone came to abby’s Defence over that including Will. Totally unbelievable.... plus Sami didn’t have a chance to lay the smack down. Carrie slapped the shit out of Abby when she pretended to sleep with Austin but she actually did sleep with EJ and Sami wasn’t allowed to do anything.
Woah, woah, woah! Sami wasn't allowed to do anything???? She went on the warpath. She berated Abby when she first confronted her. I mean, maybe she didn't slap her, but she went after her hard. She then blackmailed Kayla into firing Abby from the hospital. She was all about punishing Abby and EJ (pretty sure she sent EJ to jail for embezzling or something). To say she didn't get to "lay the smack down" is just false.

As far as people coming to Abby's defense, there were reasons. Jen is Abby's mother, so of course she defended her. Will thought Sami was a big hypocrite for going after Abby given that Sami slept with EJ while married to Rafe. And Sami pretty much killed Kayla's sympathy by blackmailing her. It was Sami's OTT revenge mode that alienated people. And while I don't think that you engaging in bad behavior in the past means that you don't get to get mad at other people doing the same thing to you, I do think you're delusional if you think that people aren't going to be less sympathetic when you go on a rampage about it.
I don't think Kayla (or anybody, for that matter) ever showed any sympathy for Sami, because they all had the attitude that she should have known better than to trust EJ.

I would have been infuriated in her place. Abby got everybody's sympathy. Sami got nobody's. EJ got all the blame for the fling, Abby got none, and Sami got blamed for wanting Abby to be seen as in the wrong.
She should have known better than to trust EJ...
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I guess I got the timing wrong on the friendship thing and I agree Abby was wrong to pretend to be Sami's friend, but my recollection was that Sami was pushing a lot of things (in the time period just before the wedding) and we saw a fair amount of guilt from Abby in that. But yeah, the loss of that "friendship" wasn't any big deal anyway.
There was one time in particular that Abby tried to get rid of Sami by saying she was too sick to work so she'd come home to have some tea and Sami was all "make me some too." Abby did her best to stear clear of Sami and Sami kept demanding more from Abby: Teach me about art! Bake cupcakes with my kids! If I can't find you at work I'll follow you home!
That was weird as hell. Sami was borderline stalking Abby, I thought she was into her. :blulaugh:
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