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Monday, October 16, 2017 Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 15 2017, 02:18 PM (15,819 Views)
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Oct 16 2017, 08:15 PM
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Oct 16 2017, 08:00 PM
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Oct 16 2017, 02:57 PM

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I was watching some stuff I have from’99 when Sami was in jail for being accused of murdering Franco, and she was talking to Eric about how she now understood what Marlena went through when she loved both John and her dad, and how she wasn’t going to blame her mom for her own troubles. Before jail she’d been living with J&M and was being nice to them, and little Brady and Belle. I’m not sure but I think this was the first time Sami turned over a new leaf about her mom and John. There have been so many regressions I can’t remember them all. And it seems now that she might be back again to being that old Sami who hates John. Yawn. Can’t stand that Sami.
JER did so much damage when he ignored all the progress Sami had made from 1999-2002 in regards to her relationships with J&M. He regressed her right back to 1995.
JER wasn’t writing in 99, that was Sussman Morina. Not sure when he came back. 2003?
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My only interest in Gabi was her going the "Kristen" route and continuing to cause problems for Chabby. She has nearly ruined Eli for me.
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Oct 16 2017, 08:19 PM
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JER did so much damage when he ignored all the progress Sami had made from 1999-2002 in regards to her relationships with J&M. He regressed her right back to 1995.
JER wasn’t writing in 99, that was Sussman Morina. Not sure when he came back. 2003?
Yeah that's what I was referring to, Sami made significant progress under SSM, Langan and B&C but JER returned in 2003 and ignored it all..
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Ooh Brady that "Misty Circle" comment was low. Also I've never bought that Nicole loved Brady beyond friendship. I think she was obsessed with him ala Sami/Austin back in the 2000s.
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EM is great as a sarcastic villain, this is a far cry from "Ethan Crane".
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I liked the "I'm sorry sweetheart" and John trying to be comforting.
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Chloe desperately needs JKJ.
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I usually skip Paul scenes but today I just can't take Rafe.
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I'm interested in seeing how far a potential Eric/Brady war goes. Hopefully Ron plans for an eventual reconciliation, this could be the story I've always wanted for Sami and Carrie.
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The show should have done the Ciara "obsession" with Chad and they should have let Gabi become more of a villian. Playing it safe does Chabby no favors.
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Brady was horrible to Nicole today. I don't think Nicole should have slept with Eric until she had broken it off with Brady but that's no excuse to throw her 'forced porn star' past in her face. Nicole was right when she called him the worse monster she's ever known. That's what Brady is ... he's the new Deimos. The one thing that ticked me off even more than the Misty Circle comment is that Nicole did not defend Eric when Brady said that Eric slept with Kristen. She knows that Eric was drugged and raped but she never said a word and Brady yammers on like Eric set out to seduce Kristen away from him. This time he can hit rock bottom and stay there. I just Eric to mop the floor with Brady's face and tell him he no longer considers hi family.

Sami sure strung John and Paul along. I wasn't expecting her to call Rafe. Sigh, Sami and Rafe have more chemistry than Rafe and Hope and that's not saying anything because Rafe and Hope have ZERO chemistry. I take it by Sami's reaction to Lucas that she didn't know he'd fallen off the wagon.

Hope needs to stop asking Rafe what he'd do. You're in charge Hope, start acting that way!
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I wish the writing would have allowed Nicole to have a little more fire.
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Brady channeled Victor on Friday and today I feel like he's channeling old school Sami a bit especially with the "halo" reference. It reminded me of how Sami always talked about Carrie.
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"Everyone here loves him", Paul loves Will too?
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John knew he messed up badly. That's what happens when you listen to a retcon.
Edited by JTClassicSoaps, Oct 16 2017, 08:56 PM.
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Oct 16 2017, 08:28 PM
Chloe desperately needs JKJ.


You got that right and so do we :wub2:
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Lucas in the K-mansion! It's like 2000 again.
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I disliked this episode so much that I didn't even want to discuss it. But I think I'm over it now lol.

I HATE this Brady/Nicole/Eric stuff. I knew it was coming, and really did not expect to hate it anywhere near this much. Look. It's not that the stuff Brady is saying isn't wrong. It's just that this whole relationship has been a scam, and he is the one who started it. I don't feel bad for Nicole, but I am so damn sick of her crying all the time, and it IS disappointing that this is how she'll exit. I don't really feel bad for Eric either (may change when I see his beautiful face) because I do think that what he did was WAY OOC. And really...that's the problem. I feel bad for no one. I don't find the scenes entertaining at all. I also find it really annoying that while the stuff Brady is saying to Nicole fits her history, it actually doesn't fit this particular story. It was incredibly OOC for her to come to Brady and tell him the truth and not run around behind his back for months. But mostly, three episodes in a row of this is just too much.

Also, I LOATHE that Brady is enabling Lucas' drinking. This is a weird thing to point out because Brady has relapsed, too, but Lucas is much farther gone, and Brady keeps enabling him. He practically pushed him off the wagon. I don't really enjoy BD's performances, but Lucas is a much more sympathetic drunk than Brady is.

The cop stuff...I just...there are so many issues with Hope being commissioner and she and Rafe talking about rules and blah blah blah. But let's put that aside because broken record. Hope has continuously asked Rafe how to do her job since being given her job. He was the one who hired Eli today. They give a woman this big, gender-role busting job, and they have her run all of it by the douchebag she's sleeping with. Constantly. It's just so bad.

Gabi is a waste of space. They keep trying to make her feisty, and quite frankly, Camila doesn't pull that off. She can pull off one thing: ditzy. I like her as the ditzy bff. She can't do feisty.

John/Sami/Paul was just so much more boring than I anticipated. They let Paul talk way too much. Sami's arguments really didn't make any sense. I do appreciate that John looked like he felt bad (and while I think they should dig that grave up, I also fully believe he should feel hella bad). The scenes were just meh all the way around. IDK how they managed to make a return where a mother shows up at a graveyard and finds her stepfather and stepbrother (who slept with her son) digging up her son's grave boring, but boy did they manage.
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In the past week, Brady has become one of my favorite characters. Love him as a bad guy. EM is nailing this material. Definitely some Emmy reels these past few episodes. Loved the Nicole/Brady scenes. Such great dialog. Also really liked Chloe and Nicole’s scene. So glad their friendship was repaired. And drunk Brady and Lucas is the best.

So happy Sami is back. One of my all time favorite characters. Great scenes with John and Paul. Her reaction to Paul was perfect. And loved her calling Rafe. And happy to get the Lumi cliffhanger.

Kind of fast forwarded the rest. I think I’ll get interested in Rafe, Hope, and Eli when the JJ story starts!
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BD/EM made the Lucas/Brady scenes for me, I think they have great "buddy" chemistry.
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