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Monday, October 16, 2017 Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 15 2017, 02:18 PM (15,818 Views)
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Sami at the grave is ok, but these scenes would have been better if Sami hadn't been so focused on EJ back in 2015.
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It seems like it's been awhile since we had a lot of Eli/Lani interaction. I'm wondering how long it takes us to get to a potential WTD?
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I think the best part of this episode was the look Sami gave Lucas at the end.
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Oct 16 2017, 09:26 PM
Sami at the grave is ok, but these scenes would have been better if Sami hadn't been so focused on EJ back in 2015.
You might disagree, but I think that talking about that on Wednesday might help. It's just irritating to hear her say Will can't be alive because she was with him in the morgue when she was so sure EJ was alive even though she was with him in the morgue. It just doesn't make sense.
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lysie
Oct 16 2017, 07:51 PM
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Oct 16 2017, 07:48 PM
And Sami if you really wanted John and a Paul arrested why in the world would you call Rafe?.. Shoulda known he was just gonna shrug and say “oh well”.
I mean...they didn't actually do anything, so IDK that they could have been arrested anyway. It'd have been better if they'd have mentioned that little nugget.
Only because she stopped them. A crime was still committed because there was intent and tresspass.
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Oct 16 2017, 09:34 PM
lysie
Oct 16 2017, 07:51 PM
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Oct 16 2017, 07:48 PM
And Sami if you really wanted John and a Paul arrested why in the world would you call Rafe?.. Shoulda known he was just gonna shrug and say “oh well”.
I mean...they didn't actually do anything, so IDK that they could have been arrested anyway. It'd have been better if they'd have mentioned that little nugget.
Only because she stopped them. A crime was still committed because there was intent and tresspass.
It's a public cemetery. It's not a crime to walk around in public with shovels and a wheel barrel.
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I haven't watched the episode yet. Was the wheel barrel intended for the body?
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I don't know which scenes were worse for me. Brady and Lucas sharing drinks or Rafe and Hope doing anything together.

Brady is so OTT evil now. He was ridiculous today. EM should have just been twirling a mustache. GV should have been on today. I hate when they play a SL and you know by the first commercial break that they aren't going to be on.

I don't care about Sam iand I don't enjoy drunk Lucas at all so these next couple of months are not going to be fun.

Edited by KBrady, Oct 16 2017, 10:13 PM.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

JTClassicSoaps
Oct 16 2017, 09:26 PM
Sami at the grave is ok, but these scenes would have been better if Sami hadn't been so focused on EJ back in 2015.
You know....she had some dialogue today at the grave talking to his tomb stone that was good....she said something about, 'I practically lost my mind when you died"

That to me was something that could explain her barely morning her son in 2015 to chase Ej's ghost.

I thought Sami's scenes over all were good. I was pleasantly surprised with how touching they were. Total contrast to the coldness Sami portrayed when she got to Salem after he died. I know they were going for the stoic look on her but it felt so bad then...that today was very nice IMHO. Loved the Lumi cliffhanger at the end...looking forward to tomorrow's show....

I'm also looking forward to Nicole leaving now, because I want to see the Eric/Brady story...I really hope that Brady doesn't do anything to hurt Eric....there will be hell to pay. As Lysie said I don't feel sympathetic toward any of the characters in this story....but Brady is behaving like such a douche that I just want him to be suffer badly. Now an we spare Eric any pain....that is all.

Now one tiny thing....Rafe needs to take a long walk off a short pier....dear Lord....this man is infuriating....he always has been but with Hope he's insufferable.

Tomorrow with Ericole and Lumi should be great....heartbreaking but good



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Oct 16 2017, 10:07 PM
JTClassicSoaps
Oct 16 2017, 09:26 PM
Sami at the grave is ok, but these scenes would have been better if Sami hadn't been so focused on EJ back in 2015.
You know....she had some dialogue today at the grave talking to his tomb stone that was good....she said something about, 'I practically lost my mind when you died"

That to me was something that could explain her barely morning her son in 2015 to chase Ej's ghost.


I thought Sami's scenes over all were good. I was pleasantly surprised with how touching they were. Total contrast to the coldness Sami portrayed when she got to Salem after he died. I know they were going for the stoic look on her but it felt so bad then...that today was very nice IMHO. Loved the Lumi cliffhanger at the end...looking forward to tomorrow's show....

I'm also looking forward to Nicole leaving now, because I want to see the Eric/Brady story...I really hope that Brady doesn't do anything to hurt Eric....there will be hell to pay. As Lysie said I don't feel sympathetic toward any of the characters in this story....but Brady is behaving like such a douche that I just want him to be suffer badly. Now an we spare Eric any pain....that is all.

Now one tiny thing....Rafe needs to take a long walk off a short pier....dear Lord....this man is infuriating....he always has been but with Hope he's insufferable.

Tomorrow with Ericole and Lumi should be great....heartbreaking but good



I agree about that line. I think Wednesday will provide some context for some of her dialogue today. If she thinks now that she was losing her mind then, that explains why she's so slow to believe Will is alive now. She clearly believes he's dead in today's episode.

I think they laid a nice foundation with her dialogue. It's just a little hard to take in that way when comparing to the last time we saw her. If they're doing what I think they're doing, they're doing a lot to repair how badly she looked in 2015 (I felt then that if she felt so strongly EJ was alive, she should have also wondered if Will might be), and I'm glad about that. Regardless, it was a little disorienting today because it just didn't jive with her previous stance at all.

All of that being said...once they find Will, IDK how she'd stop herself from looking for EJ again. As a matter of fact, once they find Will, IDK how anyone in that town stops themselves from looking for various dead loved ones. Eve and Hope should be first in line to exhume some bodies.
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The episode was flat on so many levels. Sami was actually the highlight of the show but she was surrounded by blah..
How is it possible that John & Sami were at Will's grave sight and Paul got to to do all the talking and reasoning? John came across as a little boy who was folloeing his leader's wishes. Paul should have shut up, John shouldn't have run off, he should have stayed worked thru things with Sami.

Why did Sami call Rafe & not Hope, Hope is her family.
Having Sami & Rafe in that one scene just highlighted how their is no chemistry between Rafe & Hope. Rafe & Hope are just horrible. I hated the JJ stuff and the Eli Gabi stuff.
So Lani begs Hope to reinstate JJ & she does, then Gabi goes and advocates for Eli to Hope &'she hires him also. Of course she has to explain her actions to Rafe like he is really the commissioners.

Enough of the Brady & Nicole junk already, that's 3 days of it. I already don't buy the entire triangle because I just don't by that anyone truly loves anyone else. Brady's going crazy is crazy, Eric treating Nicole like a nun is crazy & that anyone can believe that a relationship with Nicole is forever is beyond me. She has spent the last 4yrs falling in love and then crying & then falling in love again. I cannot watch her crying face anymore.

Did not like drunk Lucas & drunk Brady. I also didn't like how Brady was turning his nose at Lucas about hiring him, Brady is drunk mess like Lucas & he needs to look in the mirror.

I think today was AZ last scenes with EM and NB, all of their eyes were really teary.
Edited by Lifetime943, Oct 17 2017, 07:07 AM.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

lysie
Oct 16 2017, 10:18 PM
LuvingLumi
Oct 16 2017, 10:07 PM
JTClassicSoaps
Oct 16 2017, 09:26 PM
Sami at the grave is ok, but these scenes would have been better if Sami hadn't been so focused on EJ back in 2015.
You know....she had some dialogue today at the grave talking to his tomb stone that was good....she said something about, 'I practically lost my mind when you died"

That to me was something that could explain her barely morning her son in 2015 to chase Ej's ghost.


I thought Sami's scenes over all were good. I was pleasantly surprised with how touching they were. Total contrast to the coldness Sami portrayed when she got to Salem after he died. I know they were going for the stoic look on her but it felt so bad then...that today was very nice IMHO. Loved the Lumi cliffhanger at the end...looking forward to tomorrow's show....

I'm also looking forward to Nicole leaving now, because I want to see the Eric/Brady story...I really hope that Brady doesn't do anything to hurt Eric....there will be hell to pay. As Lysie said I don't feel sympathetic toward any of the characters in this story....but Brady is behaving like such a douche that I just want him to be suffer badly. Now an we spare Eric any pain....that is all.

Now one tiny thing....Rafe needs to take a long walk off a short pier....dear Lord....this man is infuriating....he always has been but with Hope he's insufferable.

Tomorrow with Ericole and Lumi should be great....heartbreaking but good



I agree about that line. I think Wednesday will provide some context for some of her dialogue today. If she thinks now that she was losing her mind then, that explains why she's so slow to believe Will is alive now. She clearly believes he's dead in today's episode.

I think they laid a nice foundation with her dialogue. It's just a little hard to take in that way when comparing to the last time we saw her. If they're doing what I think they're doing, they're doing a lot to repair how badly she looked in 2015 (I felt then that if she felt so strongly EJ was alive, she should have also wondered if Will might be), and I'm glad about that. Regardless, it was a little disorienting today because it just didn't jive with her previous stance at all.

All of that being said...once they find Will, IDK how she'd stop herself from looking for EJ again. As a matter of fact, once they find Will, IDK how anyone in that town stops themselves from looking for various dead loved ones. Eve and Hope should be first in line to exhume some bodies.
I believe the writing for her was just so blatantly bad back then, that they need to do something to actually fix some of it now, not mentioning Ej today was likely part of that even if it made some sense to at least mention her failed search as part of today's scenes. I also like how the minute John mentioned Rolf she seemed to reconsider her stance, momentarily. It seems from the preview that by tomorrow she's already believing that it may be a possibility because of her talk with Lucas about Rolf...

In the context of what we saw today and what we'll likely see tomorrow, I can see her breaking down on Wednesday with Marlena, because she knows how fruitless her efforts were with Ej and she wants to have success with Will now that she knows Rolf was involved apparently, so the breakdown makes sense....

If it plays out the way I hope it will I will be pleasantly surprised with the beginning of this story.
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Oct 16 2017, 08:20 PM
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Oct 16 2017, 08:19 PM
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Oct 16 2017, 08:15 PM

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JER wasn’t writing in 99, that was Sussman Morina. Not sure when he came back. 2003?
Yeah that's what I was referring to, Sami made significant progress under SSM, Langan and B&C but JER returned in 2003 and ignored it all..
Ah, sorry I misunderstood. I get ya now, thanks! Yes, I agree. I think JER liked Sami the way he always wrote her. I totally hated Sami during the serial killer stuff he wrote.
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Oct 16 2017, 03:15 PM
I am ok with Sami wanting them arrested, even if it's just to aggravate them. John knew that Sami had been called, he knew Sami was on her way home. He should not have agreed to dig that grave up with Paul (the person who was about to marry Sonny),he should have waited for Sami to get back & had Marlena reason with her.
Ok, that’s funny! Reason with Sami? :blulaugh: :blulaugh: :blulaugh:

When did John hear Sami was coming home? I missed the first 15 min or so of Friday’s show. I saw Marlena call .sami, but I don’t remember her telling John.

I don’t see why it’s ok to have John arrested even just to aggravated him. That’s just stupid. What’s the point? [Rhetorical question]
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Oct 16 2017, 08:22 PM
Ooh Brady that "Misty Circle" comment was low.
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Oct 16 2017, 08:26 PM
I liked the "I'm sorry sweetheart" and John trying to be comforting.
And he got nothing for it.
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lysie
Oct 16 2017, 10:18 PM
LuvingLumi
Oct 16 2017, 10:07 PM
JTClassicSoaps
Oct 16 2017, 09:26 PM
Sami at the grave is ok, but these scenes would have been better if Sami hadn't been so focused on EJ back in 2015.
You know....she had some dialogue today at the grave talking to his tomb stone that was good....she said something about, 'I practically lost my mind when you died"

That to me was something that could explain her barely morning her son in 2015 to chase Ej's ghost.


I thought Sami's scenes over all were good. I was pleasantly surprised with how touching they were. Total contrast to the coldness Sami portrayed when she got to Salem after he died. I know they were going for the stoic look on her but it felt so bad then...that today was very nice IMHO. Loved the Lumi cliffhanger at the end...looking forward to tomorrow's show....

I'm also looking forward to Nicole leaving now, because I want to see the Eric/Brady story...I really hope that Brady doesn't do anything to hurt Eric....there will be hell to pay. As Lysie said I don't feel sympathetic toward any of the characters in this story....but Brady is behaving like such a douche that I just want him to be suffer badly. Now an we spare Eric any pain....that is all.

Now one tiny thing....Rafe needs to take a long walk off a short pier....dear Lord....this man is infuriating....he always has been but with Hope he's insufferable.

Tomorrow with Ericole and Lumi should be great....heartbreaking but good



I agree about that line. I think Wednesday will provide some context for some of her dialogue today. If she thinks now that she was losing her mind then, that explains why she's so slow to believe Will is alive now. She clearly believes he's dead in today's episode.

I think they laid a nice foundation with her dialogue. It's just a little hard to take in that way when comparing to the last time we saw her. If they're doing what I think they're doing, they're doing a lot to repair how badly she looked in 2015 (I felt then that if she felt so strongly EJ was alive, she should have also wondered if Will might be), and I'm glad about that. Regardless, it was a little disorienting today because it just didn't jive with her previous stance at all.

All of that being said...once they find Will, IDK how she'd stop herself from looking for EJ again. As a matter of fact, once they find Will, IDK how anyone in that town stops themselves from looking for various dead loved ones. Eve and Hope should be first in line to exhume some bodies.
I'm sure Eve would do anything to bring her Paigey back from the dead, if only to make sure she can go to Stanford. But Foolish Face Hernandez? That stranger wouldn't do a thing to bring Bo back from the dead :(
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I thought AS was really bad in the way she seemed to be playing some of her scenes. I would expect Sami to be angry when showing up at Will’s grave finding John and Paul there about to dig it up, but it felt to me more like AS was playing Sami as being flippant and snarky, not upset or shocked. And she played calling the police on them as though it was a joke. I dunno maybe I’m just not getting who Sami is this time around.
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I don't care if I'm in the minority here, but I enjoyed the Safe sparks after they gave John & Paul the boot. It's abundantly clear that they have so much more chemistry than Rope ever had or ever will have.
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Oct 16 2017, 11:26 AM
Nicole blasts Brady for being a monster and worse than any man she ever knew.
Worse than dear old dad?

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