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Spoilers for the Week of October 30th
Topic Started: Oct 18 2017, 07:20 PM (28,199 Views)
Hugo


Maybe Paul sees Will first.

Could Justin and Adrienne's reunion be any more rushed? What changed Adrienne's mind all the sudden? They could have shown her having flashbacks of their love story or dreaming about Justin while she was locked up. This is stupid.
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I LOVE that Halloween is actually going to be an event in Salem this year, whether characters will be in costume or not. It's been six years since they made a big deal out of Halloween!

The Adrienne/Justin spoiler is RIDICULOUS. She and Lucas were together when Anjelica made the Bonnie switch happen! She just comes out of Statesville and goes back to Justin? Sounds terribly rushed.
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Long Live Stefano (RIP JOE)

And there you have it Justin and Adrienne are officially back together Now we need Jack and Jennifer back..
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Will'sgirl2017


I bet Paul does find Will first :cheer: :cheer: :applause:
I wish Dr. Rolf was staying longer.
Poor Lucas, can't catch a break with the ladies. :(
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

Yeah, I wish they wouldn't have rushed this Justin and Adrienne thing....her and Lucas should have come to an agreement that they shouldn't be together but not this rushed.
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Hugo
Oct 21 2017, 12:09 AM
Maybe Paul sees Will first.

Could Justin and Adrienne's reunion be any more rushed? What changed Adrienne's mind all the sudden? They could have shown her having flashbacks of their love story or dreaming about Justin while she was locked up. This is stupid.
I thought Sami was a bit ridiculous about Adrienne the other day but now I think I'd be ok with her blasting her. Is she really going to dump Lucas again, in this state, with all this going on?

I don't get how they handled Hattie J&M so well and botched Bonnie Adrienne Lucas Justin so badly.
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am103
Oct 21 2017, 12:14 AM
I LOVE that Halloween is actually going to be an event in Salem this year, whether characters will be in costume or not. It's been six years since they made a big deal out of Halloween!

The Adrienne/Justin spoiler is RIDICULOUS. She and Lucas were together when Anjelica made the Bonnie switch happen! She just comes out of Statesville and goes back to Justin? Sounds terribly rushed.
Adrienne might not be too happy with Lucas if/when she finds out he trashed her son in a drunken rage. Her dad was a drunk, remember? Bad memories might resurface.
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Lovejm
Oct 21 2017, 07:25 AM
Hugo
Oct 21 2017, 12:09 AM
Maybe Paul sees Will first.

Could Justin and Adrienne's reunion be any more rushed? What changed Adrienne's mind all the sudden? They could have shown her having flashbacks of their love story or dreaming about Justin while she was locked up. This is stupid.
I thought Sami was a bit ridiculous about Adrienne the other day but now I think I'd be ok with her blasting her. Is she really going to dump Lucas again, in this state, with all this going on?

I don't get how they handled Hattie J&M so well and botched Bonnie Adrienne Lucas Justin so badly.
I am just happy that this Bonnie nonsense is coming to an end.
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Lovejm


Lifetime943
Oct 21 2017, 07:30 AM
Lovejm
Oct 21 2017, 07:25 AM
Hugo
Oct 21 2017, 12:09 AM
Maybe Paul sees Will first.

Could Justin and Adrienne's reunion be any more rushed? What changed Adrienne's mind all the sudden? They could have shown her having flashbacks of their love story or dreaming about Justin while she was locked up. This is stupid.
I thought Sami was a bit ridiculous about Adrienne the other day but now I think I'd be ok with her blasting her. Is she really going to dump Lucas again, in this state, with all this going on?

I don't get how they handled Hattie J&M so well and botched Bonnie Adrienne Lucas Justin so badly.
I am just happy that this Bonnie nonsense is coming to an end.
The Bonnie stuff could have ended without a Justin Adrienne reunion thirty seconds later. I don't even want Lucas and Adrienne together but this is a mess of a rushed ending.
Edited by Lovejm, Oct 21 2017, 07:32 AM.
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janem


It does sound like PERHAPS Adrienne thinks that Lucas caved in too easily to drinking again, and after all she has been through, more than she can handle right now. She just is not going to deal with his drinking, trying to get him sober, with still worrying about her son, her own health, recovery, etc.
Definitely a surprising turn of events.....did not expect her to go running back into Justin's arms.......Hey, he still cheated on her, using any excuse. Only wanted her back when someone else hooked up with her. Oh, well.
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Not surprised at the J/A rushed reunion. Ron has done little to give me confidence in his ability to give us a satisfactory payoff to his stories.
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LuvingLumi
Oct 21 2017, 06:45 AM
Yeah, I wish they wouldn't have rushed this Justin and Adrienne thing....her and Lucas should have come to an agreement that they shouldn't be together but not this rushed.
It sounds worse than what Bonnie did to Lucas. Adrienne comes back, she's with both Lucas and Justin in Memphis on the 1st and on the 3rd she's back with Justin? She recommits? It sounds like she's doing what Bonnie did to Lucas only Adrienne knows Lucas is in a very fragile condition because he recently fell off the wagon and now is chasing a dream that his beloved son is alive.

I hope it plays out better than I am imagining it.
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IMO, the Will story has lost momentum for a couple of reasons. Pacing is number one. Thus far we have only seen imaginary Will. There should have been glimpses of Will or parts of scenes that suggested Will's presence. Secondly the whole AZ exit, AS entrance was all tangled up and frankly it messed up the whole show. AZ and Nicole's shabby exit should have played out before Sami arrived. It was not necessary in any way that Nicole and Sami share scenes. As it was, the scene was kind of useless. If Nicole and her drama had been over, the mystery of Will and urgency to find the truth would have been more dramatic. The story has been broken up and it lessens and diminishes the whole thing. For instance, why did Lucas disappear? He should be seen daily. He is Will's Dad. His drama should be visible. The Bonnie story should be confined to days when the Will story is not burning bright because the camp does make the other story seem less urgent.

Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but in Days past, the show juggled usually three stories per day and did it successfully for years. It is all in the order in which the stories are shown. A day off will not kill a story unless the drama is very high and needs to be shown right away, for instance, Hope over the vat of boiling acid. Pacing is very important. The ingredients are all there to have happy, sad, funny and very dramatic stories play out for the audience but the pacing is terrible.
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I agree with others. I knew that Justin/Adrianne we're the goal, and I'm okay with that, but not like that. Poor Lucas always gets the shaft. :(
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pspcindy
Oct 21 2017, 09:23 AM
IMO, the Will story has lost momentum for a couple of reasons. Pacing is number one. Thus far we have only seen imaginary Will. There should have been glimpses of Will or parts of scenes that suggested Will's presence. Secondly the whole AZ exit, AS entrance was all tangled up and frankly it messed up the whole show. AZ and Nicole's shabby exit should have played out before Sami arrived. It was not necessary in any way that Nicole and Sami share scenes. As it was, the scene was kind of useless. If Nicole and her drama had been over, the mystery of Will and urgency to find the truth would have been more dramatic. The story has been broken up and it lessens and diminishes the whole thing. For instance, why did Lucas disappear? He should be seen daily. He is Will's Dad. His drama should be visible. The Bonnie story should be confined to days when the Will story is not burning bright because the camp does make the other story seem less urgent.

Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but in Days past, the show juggled usually three stories per day and did it successfully for years. It is all in the order in which the stories are shown. A day off will not kill a story unless the drama is very high and needs to be shown right away, for instance, Hope over the vat of boiling acid. Pacing is very important. The ingredients are all there to have happy, sad, funny and very dramatic stories play out for the audience but the pacing is terrible.
I feel like they were too worried about having Ali interact with different people. They couldn’t even keep up with Sami’s feelings about Will and the grave digging from scene to scene. They also brought her in and kind of immediately dropped everyone else that had been heavily involved in the Will story. It’s good to involve so many people, but you can’t have Paul, Sonny, and John doing all the work and then drop them to have Sami just run around talking about them. Meanwhile, the Sami/Sonny scene should have actually been onscreen.

They could have had Sami involved in other things but they did a poor job of connecting it all to why she’s actually there. For example, the birthday could have been acknowledged at the police station with more of the people involved in the search. Eric should have gotten off his ass and come to see his sister whose dead son might be alive. She shouldn’t have gone to him.
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Oct 20 2017, 11:05 PM
Soaps.com Spoilers

Monday October 30:
Sonny, Paul, Sami, John, and Marlena question a mysterious person about Will.

Tuesday October 31:
It’s Halloween night and there are plenty of tricks and treats for Salem’s heroes…
William Utay's last day as Dr. Rolf

Wednesday November 1:
Justin, Adrienne, and Lucas arrive in Memphis.

Thursday November 2:
John, Marlena, and Sami are stunned when they come face-to-face with someone from their past.

Friday November 3:
Paul makes a startling discovery.
Adrienne and Justin recommit to their love.

http://soaps.sheknows.com/days-of-our-lives/spoilers/4322/days-of-our-lives-spoilers-october-23-november-3
Monday has to be Rolf or someone connected to him who will lead them to Rolf.

Tuesday--hey they are actually doing a holiday. :)

Wednesday--Lucas yes, Justin and Adrienne have no vested interest in Will

Thursday--wondering who it will be.... Susan, Kristen, Princess Gina..


Friday--tired of Paul...can they please kill him off, so Adrienne sticks it to Lucas who she says she loves and goes back to the jerk who CHEATED on her.
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KBrady
Oct 21 2017, 08:30 AM
Not surprised at the J/A rushed reunion. Ron has done little to give me confidence in his ability to give us a satisfactory payoff to his stories.
I don't know, but RC does seem to have a recent pattern of rushing things to get the end result pairings he wants. Not sure if this is still him setting up storyline that he felt Dena H messed up. He did rush the Eric & Nicole stuff, but that could have been because of AZ's departure (even Eric having framed photos of Nicole 24hrs after their 24hr romp was much).
He rushed Chad & Abby to biss. He rushed Sonny & Paul to the alter. He's kinda just allowing JJ & Lani to advance without any actual supportive storyline. He rushed the Steve & Kayla angst to insta reunion off screen. So it doesn't shock me about the insta Justin & Adrienne stuff.

I am more interested in seeing what RC does from Nov sweeps on, because for me that is when every setup & storyline is 100% him & his ideas.
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lysie
Oct 21 2017, 09:48 AM
pspcindy
Oct 21 2017, 09:23 AM
IMO, the Will story has lost momentum for a couple of reasons. Pacing is number one. Thus far we have only seen imaginary Will. There should have been glimpses of Will or parts of scenes that suggested Will's presence. Secondly the whole AZ exit, AS entrance was all tangled up and frankly it messed up the whole show. AZ and Nicole's shabby exit should have played out before Sami arrived. It was not necessary in any way that Nicole and Sami share scenes. As it was, the scene was kind of useless. If Nicole and her drama had been over, the mystery of Will and urgency to find the truth would have been more dramatic. The story has been broken up and it lessens and diminishes the whole thing. For instance, why did Lucas disappear? He should be seen daily. He is Will's Dad. His drama should be visible. The Bonnie story should be confined to days when the Will story is not burning bright because the camp does make the other story seem less urgent.

Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but in Days past, the show juggled usually three stories per day and did it successfully for years. It is all in the order in which the stories are shown. A day off will not kill a story unless the drama is very high and needs to be shown right away, for instance, Hope over the vat of boiling acid. Pacing is very important. The ingredients are all there to have happy, sad, funny and very dramatic stories play out for the audience but the pacing is terrible.
I feel like they were too worried about having Ali interact with different people. They couldn’t even keep up with Sami’s feelings about Will and the grave digging from scene to scene. They also brought her in and kind of immediately dropped everyone else that had been heavily involved in the Will story. It’s good to involve so many people, but you can’t have Paul, Sonny, and John doing all the work and then drop them to have Sami just run around talking about them. Meanwhile, the Sami/Sonny scene should have actually been onscreen.

They could have had Sami involved in other things but they did a poor job of connecting it all to why she’s actually there. For example, the birthday could have been acknowledged at the police station with more of the people involved in the search. Eric should have gotten off his ass and come to see his sister whose dead son might be alive. She shouldn’t have gone to him.
If they wanted to keep the momentum going, they should have had Sami come in full throttle believing Will was alive or at least wanting to find out the truth from minute one. John and Paul deciding to dig up the grave was a momentum pusher, creating some suspense. Sami coming in could have pushed it with a true confrontation ending with Sami saying yes, let's do this. Even if the grave digging got interrupted after that, the momentum could have carried through. Instead, it all got ground to a halt because, as has been said, we had to have Sami's teary trail through Salem. Emotional scenes are nice and I appreciate them, but not when it grinds everything else to a halt. And while I am not a Sami fan, she's never been a passive character so they needed to use that energy from the character in a much better way. It appears that might happen going forward, but I'm not sure it makes up for the lurching stop the story came to this week.
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esp13
Oct 21 2017, 09:56 AM
lysie
Oct 21 2017, 09:48 AM
pspcindy
Oct 21 2017, 09:23 AM
IMO, the Will story has lost momentum for a couple of reasons. Pacing is number one. Thus far we have only seen imaginary Will. There should have been glimpses of Will or parts of scenes that suggested Will's presence. Secondly the whole AZ exit, AS entrance was all tangled up and frankly it messed up the whole show. AZ and Nicole's shabby exit should have played out before Sami arrived. It was not necessary in any way that Nicole and Sami share scenes. As it was, the scene was kind of useless. If Nicole and her drama had been over, the mystery of Will and urgency to find the truth would have been more dramatic. The story has been broken up and it lessens and diminishes the whole thing. For instance, why did Lucas disappear? He should be seen daily. He is Will's Dad. His drama should be visible. The Bonnie story should be confined to days when the Will story is not burning bright because the camp does make the other story seem less urgent.

Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but in Days past, the show juggled usually three stories per day and did it successfully for years. It is all in the order in which the stories are shown. A day off will not kill a story unless the drama is very high and needs to be shown right away, for instance, Hope over the vat of boiling acid. Pacing is very important. The ingredients are all there to have happy, sad, funny and very dramatic stories play out for the audience but the pacing is terrible.
I feel like they were too worried about having Ali interact with different people. They couldn’t even keep up with Sami’s feelings about Will and the grave digging from scene to scene. They also brought her in and kind of immediately dropped everyone else that had been heavily involved in the Will story. It’s good to involve so many people, but you can’t have Paul, Sonny, and John doing all the work and then drop them to have Sami just run around talking about them. Meanwhile, the Sami/Sonny scene should have actually been onscreen.

They could have had Sami involved in other things but they did a poor job of connecting it all to why she’s actually there. For example, the birthday could have been acknowledged at the police station with more of the people involved in the search. Eric should have gotten off his ass and come to see his sister whose dead son might be alive. She shouldn’t have gone to him.
If they wanted to keep the momentum going, they should have had Sami come in full throttle believing Will was alive or at least wanting to find out the truth from minute one. John and Paul deciding to dig up the grave was a momentum pusher, creating some suspense. Sami coming in could have pushed it with a true confrontation ending with Sami saying yes, let's do this. Even if the grave digging got interrupted after that, the momentum could have carried through. Instead, it all got ground to a halt because, as has been said, we had to have Sami's teary trail through Salem. Emotional scenes are nice and I appreciate them, but not when it grinds everything else to a halt. And while I am not a Sami fan, she's never been a passive character so they needed to use that energy from the character in a much better way. It appears that might happen going forward, but I'm not sure it makes up for the lurching stop the story came to this week.
The problem is the budget & the filming. We have not seen John & Marlena share scenes together with Sami. Why couldn't the there be a John, Marlena, Sami, Eric, Brady & Paul scene? Why is Hope alone with Rolf and not following the lead with John & Marlena.

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Oct 21 2017, 10:03 AM
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Oct 21 2017, 09:56 AM
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Oct 21 2017, 09:48 AM

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If they wanted to keep the momentum going, they should have had Sami come in full throttle believing Will was alive or at least wanting to find out the truth from minute one. John and Paul deciding to dig up the grave was a momentum pusher, creating some suspense. Sami coming in could have pushed it with a true confrontation ending with Sami saying yes, let's do this. Even if the grave digging got interrupted after that, the momentum could have carried through. Instead, it all got ground to a halt because, as has been said, we had to have Sami's teary trail through Salem. Emotional scenes are nice and I appreciate them, but not when it grinds everything else to a halt. And while I am not a Sami fan, she's never been a passive character so they needed to use that energy from the character in a much better way. It appears that might happen going forward, but I'm not sure it makes up for the lurching stop the story came to this week.
The problem is the budget & the filming. We have not seen John & Marlena share scenes together with Sami. Why couldn't the there be a John, Marlena, Sami, Eric, Brady & Paul scene? Why is Hope alone with Rolf and not following the lead with John & Marlena.

Some things are definitely budget related, but Sami's trail of (almost) tears through Salem isn't one of them. She had scenes with both John and Marlena, so they definitely could have done one with both, or with most of the family together. But they apparently wanted her to see everybody individually. I don't think that was the best choice, but I also don't think it was because of a budget issue.
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