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Oct 21 2017, 10:11 AM
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- Oct 21 2017, 12:09 AM
Maybe Paul sees Will first.
Could Justin and Adrienne's reunion be any more rushed? What changed Adrienne's mind all the sudden? They could have shown her having flashbacks of their love story or dreaming about Justin while she was locked up. This is stupid. I tend to agree. All she talked about was Lucas while in prison. I get her and Lucas not reuniting when she gets out of prison since Lucas is drinking again and she doesnt want to be around that. But getting back with Justin seems out of left field.
I also have a feeling Paul finds Will first. The question is will he reveal that or keep it a secret?
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Oct 21 2017, 10:13 AM
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- Oct 21 2017, 09:19 AM
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- Oct 21 2017, 06:45 AM
Yeah, I wish they wouldn't have rushed this Justin and Adrienne thing....her and Lucas should have come to an agreement that they shouldn't be together but not this rushed.
It sounds worse than what Bonnie did to Lucas. Adrienne comes back, she's with both Lucas and Justin in Memphis on the 1st and on the 3rd she's back with Justin? She recommits? It sounds like she's doing what Bonnie did to Lucas only Adrienne knows Lucas is in a very fragile condition because he recently fell off the wagon and now is chasing a dream that his beloved son is alive. I hope it plays out better than I am imagining it. I agree. that surprised me just now when i read that bc Adrienne has been talking so lovingly about lucas while in prison. But I am psyched for the scene with J&A. I just want some happiness for Lucas.
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sincerelytj
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Oct 21 2017, 10:24 AM
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- lysie
- Oct 21 2017, 09:48 AM
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- Oct 21 2017, 09:23 AM
IMO, the Will story has lost momentum for a couple of reasons. Pacing is number one. Thus far we have only seen imaginary Will. There should have been glimpses of Will or parts of scenes that suggested Will's presence. Secondly the whole AZ exit, AS entrance was all tangled up and frankly it messed up the whole show. AZ and Nicole's shabby exit should have played out before Sami arrived. It was not necessary in any way that Nicole and Sami share scenes. As it was, the scene was kind of useless. If Nicole and her drama had been over, the mystery of Will and urgency to find the truth would have been more dramatic. The story has been broken up and it lessens and diminishes the whole thing. For instance, why did Lucas disappear? He should be seen daily. He is Will's Dad. His drama should be visible. The Bonnie story should be confined to days when the Will story is not burning bright because the camp does make the other story seem less urgent.
Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but in Days past, the show juggled usually three stories per day and did it successfully for years. It is all in the order in which the stories are shown. A day off will not kill a story unless the drama is very high and needs to be shown right away, for instance, Hope over the vat of boiling acid. Pacing is very important. The ingredients are all there to have happy, sad, funny and very dramatic stories play out for the audience but the pacing is terrible.
I feel like they were too worried about having Ali interact with different people. They couldn’t even keep up with Sami’s feelings about Will and the grave digging from scene to scene. They also brought her in and kind of immediately dropped everyone else that had been heavily involved in the Will story. It’s good to involve so many people, but you can’t have Paul, Sonny, and John doing all the work and then drop them to have Sami just run around talking about them. Meanwhile, the Sami/Sonny scene should have actually been onscreen. They could have had Sami involved in other things but they did a poor job of connecting it all to why she’s actually there. For example, the birthday could have been acknowledged at the police station with more of the people involved in the search. Eric should have gotten off his ass and come to see his sister whose dead son might be alive. She shouldn’t have gone to him. you have been spot on about sami's roll out. as much as i love seeing her there was a strange disconnect btwn bringing her back an the urgency of digging up will's grave. then, she wants to put John in prison wtf? some would say that is like sami but it's not, she is all about family.
also i was expecting her to dig up the grave right then and there, the whole scene threw me a bit. but still so glad she's back!
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lysie
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Oct 21 2017, 10:38 AM
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Monday, October 30, 2017 Sami lands in hot water. Tuesday, October 31, 2017 Steve gets devastating news about Kayla. Wednesday, November 1, 2017 Eli bonds with Gabi and Arianna. Thursday, November 2, 2017 Eve learns about Will and wonders if Paige could be alive as well. Lani defends JJ to Abe. Friday, November 3, 2017 Sami, John, and Marlena get answers about Will.
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KBrady
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Oct 21 2017, 10:40 AM
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Uhh Kayla?
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Oct 21 2017, 10:51 AM
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I really want Justin and Adrienne back together but not like this. I was hoping for a little more.....
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sincerelytj
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Oct 21 2017, 10:57 AM
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maybe the phone call Lucas gets from Adrienne may shed some light on what happens with her and Justin.
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Oct 21 2017, 10:58 AM
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Of course they had to rush Justin/Adrienne....grrr. So not surprised. It’s so damn annoying. I guess once they are reunited, I can take this show off my DVR. Sorry Ron, but this pisses me off. Can’t get one decent reunion with these two. Rush, rush, rush...so over it.
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Oct 21 2017, 11:15 AM
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- Mirage75
- Oct 21 2017, 10:58 AM
Of course they had to rush Justin/Adrienne....grrr. So not surprised. It’s so damn annoying. I guess once they are reunited, I can take this show off my DVR. Sorry Ron, but this pisses me off. Can’t get one decent reunion with these two. Rush, rush, rush...so over it. Im thinking about it and we dont know how it happens yet. Maybe theyre drugged or hypnotized or something. We also dont know what happens before then. Its a wait and see thing.
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Oct 21 2017, 11:26 AM
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- Oct 21 2017, 10:13 AM
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- Oct 21 2017, 09:19 AM
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- Oct 21 2017, 06:45 AM
Yeah, I wish they wouldn't have rushed this Justin and Adrienne thing....her and Lucas should have come to an agreement that they shouldn't be together but not this rushed.
It sounds worse than what Bonnie did to Lucas. Adrienne comes back, she's with both Lucas and Justin in Memphis on the 1st and on the 3rd she's back with Justin? She recommits? It sounds like she's doing what Bonnie did to Lucas only Adrienne knows Lucas is in a very fragile condition because he recently fell off the wagon and now is chasing a dream that his beloved son is alive. I hope it plays out better than I am imagining it.
I agree. that surprised me just now when i read that bc Adrienne has been talking so lovingly about lucas while in prison. But I am psyched for the scene with J&A. I just want some happiness for Lucas. I haven't missed any part of the Bonnie/Adrienne story, and always felt cheated that Adrienne was not in her own story because Bonnie was running away with it.
I don't have any recollection of Adrienne talking so lovingly about Lucas in prison at all, as was stated. She was upset and cried when she was told that Bonnie had broken up with Lucas of course, but her talking about Lucas or even Justin in conversation with Hattie or Sheila was non existent in my recollection.
I wished we would have seen scenes of her thinking about either or both of Justin/Lucas but Ron didn't go there, but he definitely should have knowing now that it seems he is reuniting J & A almost immediately. Believe me, I am in seventh heaven that J & A are reuniting, only wished Ron would have let their story play out. IMO, Ron gave us no indication as to what lays ahead for Adrienne other than she will be one of the characters going to Memphis on the 25th.
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Oct 21 2017, 11:35 AM
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I don't have any recollection of Adrienne talking so lovingly about Lucas in prison at all, as was stated. She was upset and cried when she was told that Bonnie had broken up with Lucas of course, but her talking about Lucas or even Justin in conversation with Hattie or Sheila was non existent in my recollection.
We never had many scenes with Bonnie and Justin. Justin had just reunited with he thinks Adrienne and he just went on with his day to day business. So many missed beats in this story.
I need to know what happens to Kayla. I'm guessing since its Halloween its some sort of fake out.
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Oct 21 2017, 11:43 AM
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- Oct 21 2017, 10:58 AM
Of course they had to rush Justin/Adrienne....grrr. So not surprised. It’s so damn annoying. I guess once they are reunited, I can take this show off my DVR. Sorry Ron, but this pisses me off. Can’t get one decent reunion with these two. Rush, rush, rush...so over it. Ron rushed Chabby back together as well. I don't know if he rushed couples back together on GH, but this pattern is annoying.
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Oct 21 2017, 11:46 AM
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I'm beginning to think that Ron was told he had to go with Chabby, Rope, and Justine/Adrienne, so he is obeying the letter of the law, but in the most unappealing way possible.
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Oct 21 2017, 11:47 AM
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- esp13
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- Oct 21 2017, 09:48 AM
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- Oct 21 2017, 09:23 AM
IMO, the Will story has lost momentum for a couple of reasons. Pacing is number one. Thus far we have only seen imaginary Will. There should have been glimpses of Will or parts of scenes that suggested Will's presence. Secondly the whole AZ exit, AS entrance was all tangled up and frankly it messed up the whole show. AZ and Nicole's shabby exit should have played out before Sami arrived. It was not necessary in any way that Nicole and Sami share scenes. As it was, the scene was kind of useless. If Nicole and her drama had been over, the mystery of Will and urgency to find the truth would have been more dramatic. The story has been broken up and it lessens and diminishes the whole thing. For instance, why did Lucas disappear? He should be seen daily. He is Will's Dad. His drama should be visible. The Bonnie story should be confined to days when the Will story is not burning bright because the camp does make the other story seem less urgent.
Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but in Days past, the show juggled usually three stories per day and did it successfully for years. It is all in the order in which the stories are shown. A day off will not kill a story unless the drama is very high and needs to be shown right away, for instance, Hope over the vat of boiling acid. Pacing is very important. The ingredients are all there to have happy, sad, funny and very dramatic stories play out for the audience but the pacing is terrible.
I feel like they were too worried about having Ali interact with different people. They couldn’t even keep up with Sami’s feelings about Will and the grave digging from scene to scene. They also brought her in and kind of immediately dropped everyone else that had been heavily involved in the Will story. It’s good to involve so many people, but you can’t have Paul, Sonny, and John doing all the work and then drop them to have Sami just run around talking about them. Meanwhile, the Sami/Sonny scene should have actually been onscreen. They could have had Sami involved in other things but they did a poor job of connecting it all to why she’s actually there. For example, the birthday could have been acknowledged at the police station with more of the people involved in the search. Eric should have gotten off his ass and come to see his sister whose dead son might be alive. She shouldn’t have gone to him.
If they wanted to keep the momentum going, they should have had Sami come in full throttle believing Will was alive or at least wanting to find out the truth from minute one. John and Paul deciding to dig up the grave was a momentum pusher, creating some suspense. Sami coming in could have pushed it with a true confrontation ending with Sami saying yes, let's do this. Even if the grave digging got interrupted after that, the momentum could have carried through. Instead, it all got ground to a halt because, as has been said, we had to have Sami's teary trail through Salem. Emotional scenes are nice and I appreciate them, but not when it grinds everything else to a halt. And while I am not a Sami fan, she's never been a passive character so they needed to use that energy from the character in a much better way. It appears that might happen going forward, but I'm not sure it makes up for the lurching stop the story came to this week. I think not having Sami join in the digging was the biggest mistake last week. That could have been a really amazing scene when they saw the empty grave.
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Oct 21 2017, 11:51 AM
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If they wanted to keep the momentum going, they should have had Sami come in full throttle believing Will was alive or at least wanting to find out the truth from minute one. John and Paul deciding to dig up the grave was a momentum pusher, creating some suspense. Sami coming in could have pushed it with a true confrontation ending with Sami saying yes, let's do this. Even if the grave digging got interrupted after that, the momentum could have carried through. Instead, it all got ground to a halt because, as has been said, we had to have Sami's teary trail through Salem. Emotional scenes are nice and I appreciate them, but not when it grinds everything else to a halt. And while I am not a Sami fan, she's never been a passive character so they needed to use that energy from the character in a much better way. It appears that might happen going forward, but I'm not sure it makes up for the lurching stop the story came to this week.
I think not having Sami join in the digging was the biggest mistake last week. That could have been a really amazing scene when they saw the empty grave. And it's exactly the sort of thing she would do.
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Oct 21 2017, 11:53 AM
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I think not having Sami join in the digging was the biggest mistake last week. That could have been a really amazing scene when they saw the empty grave.
And it's exactly the sort of thing she would do. Exactly! That's what makes it so frustrating
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Oct 21 2017, 11:54 AM
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If they wanted to keep the momentum going, they should have had Sami come in full throttle believing Will was alive or at least wanting to find out the truth from minute one. John and Paul deciding to dig up the grave was a momentum pusher, creating some suspense. Sami coming in could have pushed it with a true confrontation ending with Sami saying yes, let's do this. Even if the grave digging got interrupted after that, the momentum could have carried through. Instead, it all got ground to a halt because, as has been said, we had to have Sami's teary trail through Salem. Emotional scenes are nice and I appreciate them, but not when it grinds everything else to a halt. And while I am not a Sami fan, she's never been a passive character so they needed to use that energy from the character in a much better way. It appears that might happen going forward, but I'm not sure it makes up for the lurching stop the story came to this week.
I think not having Sami join in the digging was the biggest mistake last week. That could have been a really amazing scene when they saw the empty grave. Maybe it's the budget issue as well. I think they should have filmed on location for the grave digging/empty grave too look somewhat real.
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Oct 21 2017, 12:00 PM
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I think not having Sami join in the digging was the biggest mistake last week. That could have been a really amazing scene when they saw the empty grave.
Maybe it's the budget issue as well. I think they should have filmed on location for the grave digging/empty grave too look somewhat real. The could have showed a pile of dirt or something too and cut to an empty box. I don't think this one is on the budget.
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Oct 21 2017, 12:00 PM
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Poor Lucas. Putting Justin and Adrienne back together this fast makes no sense at all.
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Oct 21 2017, 12:29 PM
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Poor Lucas. Putting Justin and Adrienne back together this fast makes no sense at all. I have a feeling Lucas will move on and be over his breakup with real Adrienne much faster than he was his breakup with fake Adrienne, with the Will story taking precedence for him.
I’m not surprised Ron rushed the J/A reunion. It became clear pretty quickly that he was more interested in telling a Bonnie story than a J/A story. As someone said, it would have been so easy to at least show Adrienne having flashbacks about Justin or something in jail. Maybe she will have some when she gets out to show that she’s had an epiphany or something, idk. I’m glad they’ll be back together but it’s disappointing that it’s so fast, and I bet they go straight to the back burner.
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