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Tuesday, October 24th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 23 2017, 06:10 PM (8,625 Views)
Rosebud
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LOL at Maggie’s “No! I can’t believe it!” Really Maggie? You could believe Adrienne wanted to marry Victor but you’re bowled over by this new revelation? :rolleyes: :blulaugh:
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dayssoapfan


I enjoyed today's episode. Bonnie sure did go out with a bang!
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nikemi


I will probably like the J&A stuff on today's show, but that's probably it. I really don't care about WilSon or PaulSon relationship.
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esp13
Oct 24 2017, 12:28 PM
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Oct 24 2017, 11:47 AM
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Oct 24 2017, 11:26 AM

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I think the difference really is that the Hattie story focused on Marlena and John, whereas the Bonnie story was about Bonnie, not J&A - they were merely role players for her. Ron did say in his Voldemort interview that he needs someone to keep him in line to write romance, and maybe Sheri had more input in the J&M arc, which helped that come along a lot better. Whatever happens in the next two weeks to somehow magically bring J&A together, I hope Sheri had a hand in that too, even if it won't make up for what a disservice this story was for their reunion.
I think you are exactly right about the focus of the stories. Hattie's purpose was to give John and Marlena a reunion story of sorts after all of his time offscreen. It didn't need to be very long, just enough to give them a chance to talk about their history and reestablish their love story. Then it's on to the Will story.

The purpose of the Bonnie story was, as much as I can tell, to send Lucas on a downward spiral and for comic relief of sorts. It wasn't focused on what was happening to Adrienne to any real degree (there were only a few scenes of her in prison), it wasn't focused on Justin, Sonny, or any other part of Adrienne's family. There were offhand mentions of "Adrienne" seeming different/off, but they were literally throw away lines most of the time. The focus was on Bonnie trying to maintain the charade. Which is fine, if the real end result of the story was supposed to be about Bonnie getting her comeuppance, not about reuniting Justin and Adrienne. Maybe Sheri didn't have enough input on it, but I feel like the bigger problem is Ron wanted to do a story about Bonnie. But that only works if it's set up much better (i.e. Bonnie has some relevance to the show before she takes over Adrienne's life), lasts longer (I know, I know nobody wants it to last longer but if there would have been more buildup with Bonnie really learning Adrienne's life and actually being mostly believable as Adrienne from the beginning, then the slow unraveling would have worked better), and has the audience rooting for Bonnie to be outed by the end. By doing it the way he did, we got a switch that never made a lot of sense in the first place, the middle part dragged because everybody looked stupid for not really questioning Adrienne's behavior, and then one big bombshell that - honestly - who really cares about? Does anybody really care that Bonnie "finally" got caught? We didn't see Adrienne enough, or have enough drama in the prison, to create any huge stakes for her to make the audience feel an urgency to have Bonnie exposed. I'm not saying it would have been a good story regardless because "Bonnie Lockhart takes over Adrienne's life" doesn't scream must-watch TV to me anyway. But I feel like Ron kind of half-assed this one and that just made it worse.
I have found the story highly entertaining. I am sad it isn't lasting longer. After a year of Dena's misery, it's nice to laugh again.
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It wasn't a bad show. My standards have been destroyed by years of boring and dull writing, so I am enjoying it.

Maggie knew who she was marrying, and that marriage in and of itself is totally out of character. However, that was a Hackley creation that was carried over by MarDar. Do I think Maggie's standards would degenerate after years with Victor? I guess so. It's human nature to adapt.

I can hold out hope that Vivian will torture Maggie more once she returns. Now Vivian and Victor....THAT makes sense. Still, since they have made Maggie and Victor one of the most stable couples on this show over the course of the last few years, it has stretched her character and changed her......and it annoys me.

The rest.....like Adrienne not saying that she was in Statesville right away....I can deal with that. That is a page out of JER's book and I was actually use to situations like that during his tenure. Say what you want, but JER wasn't dull.

Is Ron writing deep material? Hell no, and if that's what you want then you are sure to be disappointed.

Is The Show As Dull As It Was Before? Another Hell No! It's Much More Entertaining And Watchable. His stories will be campy, funny, and full of drama. They won't be character driven masterpieces. As for me, I'm happy to enjoy the show right now.
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missmeka1987_
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Long Live Stefano (RIP JOE)

Good episode..
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bygnedys
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Thank you JCP.

JoeBucs32
Oct 24 2017, 10:15 AM
ElizBBrowning
Oct 24 2017, 09:05 AM
bygnedys
Oct 23 2017, 08:39 PM
I want to see Justin tell Bonnie off!

Maggie looked like she grabbed her heart.
I so wanted Justin to play a pivotal part in this ridiculous story, but it never came. As I kept watching, I would say to myself, alright this time he will figure Bonnie out or something close to this, but nothing came of it. Even when he called Marlena for help because he was worried and concerned about Adrienne's behavior, nothing came of it. Justin mentioning Hattie's connection to Adrienne, he should have been the one to follow up on this, but it never came.

I expected something else out of this story knowing that Adrienne and Lucas were each getting a big part and of course I expected Justin would also, but it just never happened. He and Adrienne could have gotten a wonderful love story out of this as did John and Marlena or even their own story as did Lucas (well deserved) but no, and the worse part for me was that the distinction of becoming Adrienne's rescuer was given to Steve and let's not forget Kayla. It should have been Justin who saved the love of his life, no one else, I suppose a drunken Lucas showing up at the prison would have given us more comic relief or more pity for his character and it would have been better than this predictable ending.

If you feel I sound cynical or angry or jealous or whatever, you would be right.

IMO, Justin telling Bonnie off in no way makes up for Ron making him look so foolish in this story.

I read that Justin and Adrienne next week will "recommit to their love," with no buildup, no journey of finding their way back to each other after everything that has happened to them in all these years of being separated, no nothing. Ron wants to wrap up the story as he did so many others quickly, well so be it, but his tactics for me, even though Justin and Adrienne should be together and by not giving any thought to the iconic love story of Justin and Adrienne in the process stinks to high hill.



The timing/pacing of Justin and Adrienne is awful. Rushed with no build-up, drama, or explanations.

Ron needs to work on his storytelling.
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Will'sgirl2017


It was a good ep. I liked the Sami/Rolf/Hope stuff, flashback to Rolf reviving Will, was hoping his eyes would fly open. Are we ever going to maybe get a glimpse of where Will is?
Lucas and Sonny, meh. When Sonny said Drunks are boring I was like he is more exciting than you are Sonny. His reaction to Sami saying that Will might be alive was sweet thou.
Bonnie, I laughed her running away and even Brady couldn't catch her :blulaugh:
Finally they save Adrienne, but that last scene, sounded like she was laughing not crying. So sweet thou
And uh Hope, you could have taken that gun away from Sami at any time.
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dockbuddy


This is what I have been waiting for ! The writers making a good payoff for the long suffering fan. Monday and Tuesday shows were fun !
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I really enjoyed my favorite couple! :) The only bummer for is that they will get back together quickly and I won't see them for months. :(

The whole Bonnie thing kind of reminded me the end of a Scooby Doo episode when the villain says that they would have gotten away with their deeds if it wasn't for those kids...well in this case it was Steve and Kayla. Cracked me up when she threw the flowers at Brady and ran like the wind.

Looking forward to tomorrow.
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Daysfanatic79
Oct 24 2017, 02:58 PM
It wasn't a bad show. My standards have been destroyed by years of boring and dull writing, so I am enjoying it.

Maggie knew who she was marrying, and that marriage in and of itself is totally out of character. However, that was a Hackley creation that was carried over by MarDar. Do I think Maggie's standards would degenerate after years with Victor? I guess so. It's human nature to adapt.

I can hold out hope that Vivian will torture Maggie more once she returns. Now Vivian and Victor....THAT makes sense. Still, since they have made Maggie and Victor one of the most stable couples on this show over the course of the last few years, it has stretched her character and changed her......and it annoys me.

The rest.....like Adrienne not saying that she was in Statesville right away....I can deal with that. That is a page out of JER's book and I was actually use to situations like that during his tenure. Say what you want, but JER wasn't dull.

Is Ron writing deep material? Hell no, and if that's what you want then you are sure to be disappointed.

Is The Show As Dull As It Was Before? Another Hell No! It's Much More Entertaining And Watchable. His stories will be campy, funny, and full of drama. They won't be character driven masterpieces. As for me, I'm happy to enjoy the show right now.
Why should it have been written in Adrienne's script to have said she was in Statesville right away when Ron knew that it was already written in Steve's script to announce.

For me, Steve becoming the hero of the story was very unsettling for me and when he started to recall with Kayla all the changes in Adrienne that he knew about or was told about I wanted to scream STFU while those that said these things just stood by and allowed Steve and Kayla to pat themselves on their backs, any moment there, I thought they would all break out in the song Hail to the chief. Watching Justin just standing there wondering why he wasn't written to be the one to figure this mess out was appalling. PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME HOW STEVE KNOWS WHO BONNIE LOCKHART IS.

This story was unbelievable from start to finish from the time that Adrienne ran over to Justin's office to tell him she dumped Lucas to go back with him so abruptly, to Steve becoming head honcho. There is no way in hell that Justin would not have know that Bonnie was Adrienne, because he knew Adrienne as well as he knew the back of his hand, but as much as I was told Ron loves history he forgot to include Justin and Adrienne's when writing this story.

You can read into my words that I am very bitter with how Justin was portrayed in this story but the ending was all I could ask for. Judi's crying was superb while feeling she was about to lose her mind and I hope I don't hear from anyone that she was over the top because she wasn't and Justin wanting to grab her and pull her into his arms as he did was more than I could ask for. Their kiss was everything.
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Thank you JCP.

Actually, Justin was Adrienne's rescuer, he reached her first in a place that she has been miserable in for some time. :makeout: :smooch:
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bygnedys
Oct 24 2017, 04:36 PM
Actually, Justin was Adrienne's rescuer, he reached her first in a place that she has been miserable in for some time. :makeout: :smooch:
Yes, Justin was Adrienne's rescuer in the end as it should have been, I'm grateful that Ron finally gave Justin something to do, in fact Ron owed Justin and Adrienne and their fans THIS.



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This episode was okay -- another one of those where I enjoyed the writing more than the acting.

I liked the Bonnie story more today than I did yesterday. I still wish that they would have done more "explaining" as to how she totally fooled some of them, but they did enough for me to be semi-content. Some of the acting was kind of meh, but I will shamefully admit to enjoying Bonnie shoving Maggie out of the way. LOL. Judi was OTT in the ending prison scenes, and I find it kind of funny that Adrienne's thankful to Justin since he was literally the last person to catch on to Bonnie. Heck, he didn't even figure out she was at Statesville -- Steve did.

I liked the little moment where Adrienne couldn't remember the phone number, as I think that's really reflective of current society. I can't remember numbers for anything now thanks to my smartphone. I also thought the pulling in of Lucas and Sonny was good -- even if limited.

Shouty Sami is my least favorite Sami. The Rolf stuff was okay, but I'm glad that the character is minor at this point. Just a tad too cartoony for me.

I wonder how long Sheila will be around? It seems like they started a new arc today with the Eli stuff. On a related note, they really have nothing for Gabi to do....
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Judi Evans stole the show. She was great as Bonnie, and those scenes with Adrienne crying in the end actually got me teared up.
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talbab1994
Oct 24 2017, 04:33 PM
I really enjoyed my favorite couple! :) The only bummer for is that they will get back together quickly and I won't see them for months. :(

The whole Bonnie thing kind of reminded me the end of a Scooby Doo episode when the villain says that they would have gotten away with their deeds if it wasn't for those kids...well in this case it was Steve and Kayla. Cracked me up when she threw the flowers at Brady and ran like the wind.

Looking forward to tomorrow.
Just like every other couple unfortunately.
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This was fine.

Anytime somebody reminds Hope that she shot Stefano, I'm happy. Even if it's Sami. I'm still going to need a break from her. This Rolf return is very underwhelming.

Judi was pretty fun as Bonnie and I live for her hatred of Naggie, but she needs to go away. Enough!

Somebody needs to save Sheila. I hope Eli changes his mind.

Could Gabi be any less relevant? The Dena days are long gone for her.

Did not care one bit about Lucas and Sonny.
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Oct 24 2017, 05:58 PM
This was fine.

Anytime somebody reminds Hope that shot Stefano I'm happy. Even when it's Sami. I'm still going to need a break from her. This Rolf return is very underwhelming.

Judi was pretty fun as Bonnie and I live for her hatred of Naggie, but she needs to go away. Enough!

Somebody needs to save Sheila. I hope Eli changes his mind.

Could Gabi be any less relevant? The Dena days are long gone for her.

Did not care one bit about Lucas and Sonny.
Gabi was irrelevant (in my eyes anyway,) even during Dena, that’s why her story was so awful imo. It was propped to be great, but at the end of the day was equal to mothballs and dust bunnies. It seems now she is just there as scenery.
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funone
Oct 24 2017, 06:01 PM
GoneGirl
Oct 24 2017, 05:58 PM
This was fine.

Anytime somebody reminds Hope that shot Stefano I'm happy. Even when it's Sami. I'm still going to need a break from her. This Rolf return is very underwhelming.

Judi was pretty fun as Bonnie and I live for her hatred of Naggie, but she needs to go away. Enough!

Somebody needs to save Sheila. I hope Eli changes his mind.

Could Gabi be any less relevant? The Dena days are long gone for her.

Did not care one bit about Lucas and Sonny.
Gabi was irrelevant (in my eyes anyway,) even during Dena, that’s why her story was so awful imo. It was propped to be great, but at the end of the day was equal to mothballs and dust bunnies. It seems now she is just there as scenery.
She's really pretty and therefore makes perfect sense as scenery. But didn't make any as the lead heroine Dena tried to turn her into.
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GoneGirl
Oct 24 2017, 06:10 PM
funone
Oct 24 2017, 06:01 PM
GoneGirl
Oct 24 2017, 05:58 PM
This was fine.

Anytime somebody reminds Hope that shot Stefano I'm happy. Even when it's Sami. I'm still going to need a break from her. This Rolf return is very underwhelming.

Judi was pretty fun as Bonnie and I live for her hatred of Naggie, but she needs to go away. Enough!

Somebody needs to save Sheila. I hope Eli changes his mind.

Could Gabi be any less relevant? The Dena days are long gone for her.

Did not care one bit about Lucas and Sonny.
Gabi was irrelevant (in my eyes anyway,) even during Dena, that’s why her story was so awful imo. It was propped to be great, but at the end of the day was equal to mothballs and dust bunnies. It seems now she is just there as scenery.
She's really pretty and therefore makes perfect sense as scenery. But didn't make any as the lead heroine Dena tried to turn her into.
Agreed as long as she isn’t moping. She could be arranging flowers and I’d be fine with that lol.
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