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| Friday, November 3rd Episode Discussion | |
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| Keith | Nov 3 2017, 02:46 PM Post #81 |
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I think Susan being motivated by her grief is plenty believable, especially if EJ was neglectful of his relationship with his mother. Such an estranged relationship followed by a tragic death could unhinge anyone and when was Susan ever...hinged? |
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| bygnedys | Nov 3 2017, 02:53 PM Post #82 |
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Thank you JCP.
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I rewatched part of a past episode. They are talking about someone sending Rolf large sums of money. Does Susan have a lot of money? Sami is ruining it for me, shut up about E.J. |
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| Will'sgirl2017 | Nov 3 2017, 03:00 PM Post #83 |
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It was an okay ep. So sick of Sami always bringing up EJ. This is about Will, not EJ. She has ruined this story for me Adrienne and Justin not feeling them Lucas, put the bottle down, enough of the drinking Paul seeing Will was great :cheer: |
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| Graceland | Nov 3 2017, 03:02 PM Post #84 |
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My son is not a homersexual.
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I've brought that up on here a few times now, and how Susan just happened to run into Rolf again (sketchy), how they suddenly liked each other all of a sudden (John brought up the fact that she hated him), and the fact that Rolf killed himself to protect his boss, Susan? This is all pointing towards Susan actually being Kristen. I mean, Marlena almost killed Kristen, presuming she wasn't killed. Edited by Graceland, Nov 3 2017, 03:03 PM.
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| Graceland | Nov 3 2017, 03:04 PM Post #85 |
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My son is not a homersexual.
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Oh, stop. :rolleyes: |
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| Graceland | Nov 3 2017, 03:54 PM Post #86 |
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My son is not a homersexual.
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I could see Kristen wanting to kill Marlena's precious grandson Will. |
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| The Phoenix | Nov 3 2017, 04:06 PM Post #87 |
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A horrible reconciliation for a horrible relationship. Meh. |
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| KarmicScales | Nov 3 2017, 04:11 PM Post #88 |
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Paul is so pathetic. |
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| throughthehourglass | Nov 3 2017, 04:21 PM Post #89 |
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Susan, please shoot Sami if she refers to |
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| PatNS | Nov 3 2017, 04:35 PM Post #90 |
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It was not a bad episode overall. The best part of the show for me were the John, Marlena, Sami, Susan scenes. Kudos to Eileen Davidson for holding that weapon in the aim position throughout the entire episode. That's not an easy thing to do. The downside of those scenes was Sami and her continuous whining about EJ and her constantly referring to him as the love of her life. It's obvious that Susan is lying, lying, lying. So does she have Will believing he's EJ and does he live there with Susan and Roger. I always like different characters interacting so I didn't mind the Paul / Lucas scenes. If only they hadn't made it so obvious that the entire point of their scenes was to have Paul initially not tell anyone that he saw Will. No wonder Chad was suspicious of Theo, he can't lie or come up with feasible excuses ... he just can't do it. Hope and Abby was okay. But Hope if the temp was so amazing how come you're so swamped with paperwork that you wanted Abby to start on immediately. Chad and Abby = boring. So sad. I wonder what Theo found out. |
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| PatNS | Nov 3 2017, 04:36 PM Post #91 |
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Please note: This report is not to be copied and pasted to any other sites. Please link only. Link to summary archive: http://www.network54.com/Forum/358635/ Director: Steven Williford Scriptwriter: David Kreizman Segment 1 Kate is outside the pub talking on her cell. Yes Mr. Shinn, there's nothing to worry about. I made the decision not to acquire that company because it's not a good match for DiMera. Well whoever told you we were outmaneuvered they have misinformation. You have known me long enough to know that I always get what I want. Well thank you and thank you for the call. End call. When I find out who is trying to sabotage me there will be hell to pay. Theo walks into the D mansion living room. Kate ... are you here. I guess not. Chad comes in. Hey Theo. Theo - Hey Chad. Chad - What's up. What are you doing here? Theo - I just ... have you heard any news on Will Horton? Chad - There's no news yet. Sonny got hurt searching for clues but ... is that really why you're here. That's why you came here today, to ask that. Theo - Uh yeah, yeah. And do you have time to play a game of chess. Chad - Yup. Abby comes into the squad room. Hope, hi. Hope hugs her - You're back. I'm so glad you're back. Abby - With the wedding and medical leave ... Hope - I am so glad you're here. We could really use you. We have our hands full. Abby - I can see that you do. Hope - Let me set you up at a desk so you can start going through all these files. Abby - Hang on. Hope - What? Abby - I know that today was supposed to be my first day back but I didn't come in to work, I came in to quit. John - Susan, no, no, no. Come on, put the gun down. Put the gun down. Susan - I'm going to give you guys 3 seconds. Whatcha doing here? Sami - We came here to find out some answers about my son. Susan - Now what would I know about your son. Sami - Cause we believe that Stefano's man, Dr. Rolf was hired to bring Will back to life. Susan - So? John - So we know that Dr. Rolf was receiving payments from someone at this address. Marlena - Was that someone you? Sami - Of course it was. It had to be you. Did you do it? Did you hire Rolf? Is Will alive! Lucas watches Will unpacking bottles of booze. I didn't drink that much yet. Could that really be my son! He makes his way to the bar. Justin - You and Lucas broke up because of me. Adrienne - Well Lucas wanted the truth and I gave it to him. Justin - What is the truth? Adrienne - When you came into that prison to rescue me we kissed. Everything changed. Justin - But you said it didn't mean anything. Adrienne - I was lying to myself, to you. It made me see everything I was in denial about. You and me ... me and you. Justin - Then this is real, you have come back to me. Adrienne - I won't lie to you. I still care about Lucas and I always will but in the end after everything you and I have been through, the highest of highs, the lowest of lows I know now that we belong together. Lucas - Will. Are you a hallucination or are you real? Hey are you ... Paul puts his hand on Lucas's shoulder. Lucas - What? Paul - Are you okay? You look like you've just seen a ghost. Lucas - Maybe I have. Did you just see that guy behind the bar? Paul looks - Nobody's there. Am I missing something or ... Lucas - I just saw Will. Susan - You've all got some nerve coming in here. You know what I should do. Sami - What should you do, shoot us. Marlena - Sami. Sami - I'm not afraid of you. You're hiding something. Susan - Has anyone ever told you you're rude, rude, rude. That's why my boyfriend had to get a restraining order against you. John - Elvis is your boyfriend? Susan - Well look at you John Black. You just a little bit jealous maybe. John - Susan please put the gun down. Susan - Did you know that Roger is the greatest Elvis impersonator on the whole planet. I bet he had you fooled, didn't he. Did you know he even has a mole just like the King does right on the ... Sami - Can we just stay focused here. Marlena - You're no longer with Edmund? Susan - It was good for me and Edmund in England then my EJ died and it all fell apart. Not that you care about that. Sami - I don't care! EJ was the love of my life! John - Sami! Susan - I'm warning you right now. Marlena - Susan nobody wants to hurt you. John - Just put the gun away so we can talk. Susan - What'll we talk about. John - About Dr. Rolf. Marlena - And Will. Sami - And EJ. Susan looks at Sami - I know you. I put the gun down and you're just going to give me the bum's rush. You know why, you always thought you were so much smarter than me, didn't you. Guess what, this is my house. I have every right to defend it against trespassers like you and there's not one person in this whole county who would bat a teeny weeny eyelash if I shot you right there. Segment 2 Theo is deep in thought. Chad - Theo! Theo - Hmm. Chad - It's your move. Theo - Oh right. Chad - That's your move? Theo - Yeah. Chad - You just going to leave your Queen unguarded like that. Theo - What! I didn't even see that. Chad - Apparently not. You're not really on your game today, are you. What's going on? Kate walks in - Theo, what are you doing? Theo - Nothing. Sorry I ... Chad - Sorry for what? Theo - I'm sorry that there's no news on Will. Kate - That's what we're all thinking about. Theo - Actually I should be going. Chad - We're not finished with our game. Theo - I know but I remembered I have a paper I have to write. Bye, see you guys. Chad - He seemed nervous didn't he. Hope - You're quitting. Abby - Yeah when I took this job I was a single mom and I needed to take care of Thomas and I was very determined to pay my own way without any help from Chad. Hope - And I thought that was very admirable. Abby - Well it was great for me at the time but I'm starting over now. I'm looking forward to finding a career that I'm passionate about, that really speaks to me. Hope - I understand completely. Abby - Of course I'll stay on as long as you need until you find a replacement. Hope - I appreciate the offer but the temp who has been covering for you has been doing a really amazing job. I think she'll be thrilled to get the job on a permanent basis. Abby - I'm sorry if I let you down. Hope - No don't be silly, not at all. I loved having you here and I'm going to miss you. Most importantly I want you to be happy. Abby - Thank you. Hope - You know I found my calling a long time ago and so will you. I have no doubt about that. Hug. Justin - You have no idea how long I've waited to hear you say you want to be with me. Even after you chose Lucas I never stopped hoping, praying that you would change your mind. Adrienne - I didn't know. Honestly I thought you'd moved on. Justin - Adrienne, you're a hard person to get over which is why when Bonnie broke up with Lucas ... Adrienne - You don't have to talk about that. Justin - I want to talk about it because I need to explain. Adrienne - She fooled a lot of people Justin, it's okay. Justin - A lot of people aren't me. I just want you to know that Bonnie made sure we were never intimate because of course I would know then that she wasn't you. Adrienne - I'm glad to hear that. Justin - But still I knew something was off, how could I not. The way she broke up with Lucas and came back to me ... whatever doubts I had I just pushed them aside because I wanted so badly to believe it. You were back in my life and I didn't want to do or say anything that might drive you away again. But I realise now I was wrong, so wrong. Adrienne - Not wrong, just ahead of the curve. Justin - Ahead of the curve? Adrienne - I'm here now Justin and I choose you. Kiss. Paul follows Lucas back to his table. Hey you might want to slow down there. Lucas - Thanks for the advice. Paul - What do you mean that you saw Will? Lucas - Maybe I was hallucinating. I must have been hallucinating like I did at the church and the graveyard. Paul - Have you been seeing Will a lot lately? Lucas - I don't just see him, he talks to me. Paul - Okay, how about I get you back to the hotel. Lucas - I can't go back. It's a good thing I keep seeing him like this. I mean at least he's a part of my life again which is more than I can say for Adrienne. Paul sits down. He's not real Lucas. Lucas - Yeah I know that. I know he's not real. I know he's dead. But you guys, everyone from Salem comes here ghost hunting and trying to get my hopes up again, aren't you. He drinks. Paul - That's not what we're trying to do. Lucas - Yeah? Tell that to Sonny. Why doesn't everyone just back off and leave my son alone, let him stay buried. Sami - I just want answers. Susan - She's pushing me! Sami - I want answers about my son and EJ. John - No, no, no. We'll cooperate. We all want the same thing here, right. Sami - That's right because we're all family here. I'm the mother of your grandchildren. I loved EJ. I lost EJ too and Susan I just want you to explain to me why his initials are over that bed. Whose clothes are in that drawer? Susan - You went through the dresser. Marlena - We were just trying to figure out what happened. Sami - So we know that Dr. Rolf was hired to bring Will back to life ... Susan - Well maybe you just need to talk to Wilhelm okay. Sami - I tried. Rolf killed himself. Susan - No! My sweet Wilhelm. Oh no. Oh no. Marlena - I thought you hated him. Susan - Well I did. He was creepy, like one of those vampires. But after I left Salem he became a close and personal friend. John - Really. How'd you two reconnect. Susan - It was a twist of fate. Our paths crossed. We kind of bonded over our feelings about Stefano. John - That doesn't make much sense. Like Doc said you hated Stefano, Rolf loved him. Susan - You know what they say, it's a real fine line between love and hate. Anyway Wilhelm was kind of smitten with me. Marlena - Rolf was in love with you! Susan - Don't seem so surprised Dr. Marlena Evans, yes, he would have done anything for me. Sami - Like what? What did he do for you? Susan - It's just a figure of speech Sami. Sami - No I don't think it was. I think you were thinking of something very specific. Susan - I want you to get out of here right now. Go. Go. Sami - I'm not leaving. I'm not going anywhere until I get some answers about what happened to Will and EJ. Segment 3 Chad - Theo never makes careless mistakes when he's playing chess. Kate - Everyone makes mistakes. Chad - Theo doesn't. He seemed startled to see me when I came in. Kate - Did he say why he was here? Chad - He asked about Will, then he challenged me to a game of chess. Theo's literal. He didn't say he was here for either of those things. Kate - So what's your point. Chad - My point is maybe he was here to see someone else. Someone who might try to use him to advance their own agenda. Kate - Chad ... Chad - Andre. Andre's trying to use him to help sabotage the company. Justin and Adrienne still kissing. Adrienne - How is it that after all these years, all these kisses, it still feels fresh and new. Justin - I was wondering that myself. Adrienne - It's going to be different this time. Justin - The kissing? Adrienne - All of it. Justin - What was so wrong with what it was before? Adrienne - It didn't last. That's what was wrong, remember. Justin - Well it's going to last this time, that I promise you. Adrienne - I'm going to hold you too it. Justin - Okay. Adrienne - I'm serious Justin. This is it for me. No more breaking up and starting over again. I almost died. Bonnie took over my life. I know how lucky I am to be here right now. Justin - Not as lucky as I am to have you. Adrienne - Life is short Justin. Things happen but I know I am going to savour and enjoy every moment that I have with you. And this time we are going to get it right. Lucas - You of all people shouldn't believe all these crazy things about Will. Paul - I don't believe that Will is alive. Lucas - Oh really, you don't. Then what are you doing here huh. Paul - Sonny and the rest of his family need closure. Lucas laughs - Closure. There's no such thing as closure. Paul - What are you doing here in Memphis if you think this is all just a wild goose chase. Lucas - Me, I'm having a great time. I'm drinking, I'm listening to the blues, drinking Tennessee whiskey ... Paul pushes Lucas's hand down so he can't take a drink. I think you came here for the same reason everyone else did. You don't want to admit it but you are hoping that your son is alive. Susan - People like to think that I'm a little crazy Sami. You are as looney as they come. You're as nutty as that possum that got stuck under the ? Roger's coming home ... Sami - EJ left me clues. Susan - What kind of clues? Sami - Hidden messages, to let me know he was still alive. Marlena - Sami's been following clues for over a year. Susan - What'd you find? Sami - Nothing. A whole lot of dead ends. Susan - EJ's dead and you will be too if you don't leave right now. Sami - You can shoot me. You can call the police. I don't care Susan. I'm not leaving here without answers. Marlena - She deserves the truth. We all do. John - Susan just tell us what we want to know and we'll leave you alone. Susan - Make it quick. Sami - Okay. Let's start with why you have a room for EJ. Susan - Cause I feel close to my boy here. Marlena - So this is sort of a shrine to him. Susan - You can call it whatever you want Dr. Evans. I just know that I miss my boy every second of every day. Sometimes I just come in here and I just want to sit on his bed. She sits. I just want to talk to him. Sometimes I bring him a fried bologna sandwich because he loved them so much. Sami sits on the end of the bed. He told me that he hated them but I caught him eating those bologna sandwiches all the time. So EJ really is dead. Susan stands up and points the shotgun at Sami. Because of you. Sami - ME! Marlena - Why do you think that Sami is responsible. Susan - Do you remember I had a premonition. Do you remember that! A new ? John - Yeah, yeah we remember. You flew all the way from England to try to warn him. Susan - But he wouldn't come back with me, would he. Sami - Because Salem was his home. Susan - No because you twisted him all up. Sami - We were a family! And he was the love of my life. Susan - Than an evil man killed my boy. I hated you Sami. I hated you every second of every minute of every hour. Poor EJ. It just built up and built up and I knew I just had to get some revenge. Sami - What kind of revenge? Susan - You took my boy so I sold my soul to try and take yours. Segment 4 Sami - Susan you are making less sense than usual. Susan - You know what it's like Sami, don't you, when you lose your boy. You lose a part of yourself, don't you. Maybe even lose part of your mind. I think maybe I snapped a little bit. John - Sorry Susan. What did you do? Susan - I suffered. That's what I did, I suffered. I lost my faith and I lost my hope and I lost my Edmund because after EJ died nothing mattered to me. Marlena - Is that why you came to Memphis. Susan - All I had left was the King's music. So I built a home in the shadow of his but as the first anniversary of my boy's death came around I knew I was never going to get any peace of mind, not until I got justice. You took my boy Sami. You took him so I made a plan to take yours. Sami - And do what? Susan - You hurt me and I wanted to hurt you. So Wilhelm and I hatched a plan. John - Susan you didn't kill Will, Ben Weston did. Susan - I know. I know. I was even there. I saw him flee the scene of the crime, that Ben Weston. Marlena - You saw Ben the night that he killed Will. Sami - What did you do? Susan - I called Wilhelm. I told him I needed some of his resurrection magic. Marlena - But if you wanted Will dead why would call Rolf to try and bring him back. Lucas - It would be so easy for me to give in to that kind of hope like Sami has. Paul - Like Sonny has. Lucas - If I do that, if I give in to that, if I believe that there's a chance that I could see my son again and it doesn't happen I don't think I could take it man. I've fallen too many times. I can't fall again. It would kill me. He drinks. Paul - That is why I'm so afraid of what it might do to Sonny. Abby - I would give anything for Will to still be alive but either way I just hope that Sonny finds some closure. Hope - He seemed to have that before Ben showed up at the wedding. Abby - We were all so excited to share that day together, to start our life as married couples. Of course if Chad and I can make our way back to each other anybody can. Kate - If Andre is the one trying to sabotage DiMera it wouldn't surprise me at if he was trying to use Theo to help him. What are you doing? Chad - I'm going to call Theo. He's not going to lie to me. Kate - Wait. No, don't do that. If it is Andre we don't want him to know that we're on to him, do we. Chad - Right, he'd probably just cover his tracks anyways. Kate - Chad I don't want you to worry about this alright. I'm going to find the responsible party. As long as I'm CEO I'm going to do everything to protect the DiMera legacy at all costs. Chad - I'm sure you will but I don't want anyone to get hurt. Kate - I'll be careful. Right now you just need to concentrate on Abigail and Thomas and work towards your beautiful future. Chad - Okay thank you. Just let me know if you ? Kate - Of course I will. Chad leaves. Kate looks at Stefano's picture. What are you looking at. Chad has a big heart, I have to protect him. EJ understood. Andre understands. Sometimes in business people have to be hurt and if Andre is the one trying to take me down, there will be blood. Segment 5 Justin comes back into the lounge. The doctor just told me that Sonny's awake. We can go back in there in a few minutes. Adrienne - Good, I can't wait to take our boy home. Justin - Sonny's not going to leave Memphis, not without answers about Will. Adrienne - I know. I'm going to text Paul and let him know. Justin - I feel really bad for Paul. Adrienne - I know. He doesn't deserve this. Justin - He's doing everything he can to be supportive and help with the search for Will but he's terrified that if it turns out Will is alive Sonny's going to leave him. Adrienne - Impossible situation. Justin - I know. I have to say that I understand a little about what Paul's going through. Sometimes when you're faced with the possibility of losing the person you love even though you want them to be happy it's hard to do the right thing. Paul - I want Will to be alive just like everyone else. Lucas - But you're scared, right. I can see it in your eyes. Don't blame yourself. I felt the same way when I saw Justin and Adrienne together and it turns out that I was right. Paul - That's not the same thing. Lucas - Why, because Will's dead? Sonny doesn't believe that. Paul - My job is to support Sonny through all of this. Lucas - Your job? Paul - I love him. We're going to be married. Lucas - You're a nice guy Paul. You stand by the person you love no matter what. Paul - It's not about being nice. It's about having faith in what we have together. Lucas - If you believe that ... whatever works for you alright. Come on, let's have a toast. You and me. To nice guys everywhere who inevitably end up all alone. Come on. Lucas drinks. Paul - I don't believe that. Lucas - Yeah well believe what you want okay. It's too late for me. But if you want to hang on to Sonny maybe you should stop being such a nice guy. John - You're not a murderer Susan. That's just not who you are. Susan - Good people do bad things John when they're pushed just a little too hard. Look at you, how many people have you killed in your life. A hundred? Maybe a thousand. Sami - Okay we're the one's asking the questions. Susan - You're not Queen here Sami. You know some people are good with just a little bit of mean but not you. You're mean, mean, mean. Sami - Then you know better than to mess with me or to hurt my kid. Susan - Do you want to know what happened ... about Will. I had my doubts about whether I could go through with it because you know it's not in my nature but it didn't even matter because when I got there he was already dead. Marlena - You saw him! Susan - You know what I felt, I wasn't sad. I didn't feel guilty. I was mad because I felt cheated out of my revenge. I was the one who was supposed to kill your son. Ben Weston took that from me and you see I couldn't let that happen. John - So what'd you do. Susan - I paid Wilhelm to bring your son back to life so I could kill him myself. Segment 6 Abby returns home and sees Chad standing over the chess table. Hi. Pretty focused on that chess game huh. Chad - Yeah I was playing with Theo but he took off. How did Hope take the news of you quitting? Abby - Good, she understood. And since we're starting our new life I kind of get to figure out what I want to do with mine. Chad - Let me know if I can help. Abby - So did you talk to Sonny? Chad - Sonny's still in the hospital and there's no news about Will. Abby - Sorry, you want to talk about it. Chad - I want to talk about Theo. Theo answers the door at his apt. Kate. Kate - WTH were you thinking! Justin takes Adrienne's hand in his. Adrienne - It feels so good to be able to take your hand and know that I can do it anytime I want. Justin - With everything that's gone wrong lately ... Adrienne - This just feels right. Justin - I'm sorry Adrienne. I'm so sorry that it's taken so long and it's been so hard to get here. Adrienne - Me too. I'm just sorry that Lucas had to get hurt in the process. I only hope that he can find the kind of happiness that we found. Kiss. Justin - Let's go see our soon. Lucas's bottle is empty. Maybe I can get my hallucination Will to hook me up with another bottle. What do you think. He turns around. Hey Will ... Paul - Hey I know that it must have been hard for you to lose Adrienne but what if you tried being clean and sober. Lucas scoffs - Clean and sober. My Mom and sister tried that man. It didn't work. You can't save me. Paul - I'm not trying to save you. I'm just saying, you talk about being nice maybe you should try being nice to yourself. Lucas - Why the hell would I do that! Paul - Because if Will were here he'd say that you deserve better. Lucas laughs and then cries. I already had that conversation with my dead son. Paul - Maybe you should start listening. Lucas - Why should I listen to him. He's dead, remember. And I think I'm tired of listening to you too Paul. Lucas staggers as he gets up. Paul grabs him - At least let me get you something to eat. Lucas - You're doing it again Paul. Don't do that, you're being too nice. I'm going to go continue this party across the street. Paul - Lucas wait. Come on. Lucas - Hey do me a favour. Find Sonny, make yourself happy. Do everything you can to stay with him alright. He leaves. Sami - What kind of freak are you! John - Susan are you trying to tell us that you were so disappointed that you didn't get to murder Will that you ... Susan - Yes I had Wilhelm bring him back to life so I could kill him myself. Marlena - That is beyond twisted. Why would Rolf even help you with that. Susan - I told you Dr. Evans, he would do anything for me. Marlena - Well if that's true it's morally reprehensible. We're going to turn you over to the authorities. Sami - I don't care about that. John - Sami, did you hear what she just said? Sami - I did. I heard every word. She hired Rolf to bring Will back from the dead. So what happened? Susan what happened next. Is Will alive or not? Segment 7 Abby - So you think Andre is using Theo to get Kate out of the company. Chad - I think it's possible. Abby - But why would Theo do that. I don't see him going along with that because he loves you. He would never do anything to hurt you or this family. Chad - Maybe Andre convinced him he was doing it for the family. Abby - I know that Andre's done a lot of really bad things but he's always been very protective of Theo. I just don't see him using him like that. Chad - Well Theo's definitely hiding something. Kate - You can't just show up at the mansion without telling me. Theo - Well I needed to speak to you in person. Kate - I understand that but Chad could tell there was something up by the way you were acting. Theo - Yes but I didn't tell him anything. I made you a promise. Kate - Look I trust you and I know it's really difficult for you not to say anything. Theo - Yes because I hate lying. Kate - You're not lying. You're doing what's best for him. Chad and Abigail have a lot to worry about right now and I can't have Chad confronting Andre if we don't have definite proof that Andre is the one trying to sabotage me and the company. Theo - Actually I might have some proof. Kate - About what's happening? Theo - That's why I came to the mansion. I have information about who's been sabotaging DiMera. Sami - Did you and Rolf bring Will back to life? Susan - Okay now listen here. Wilhelm did exactly what I asked him to do. When Will's body was brought to the morgue Wilhelm snuck right in there and shot him up with some of that stuff that reanimates you. Sami - So he brought Will back to life. Susan - No, it didn't work. Sami - What do you mean it didn't work! Susan - There was no resurrection that day Sami. Sami - So Will's dead. Susan - As dead as the King himself. Paul is placing an order. Can I get fries with that? Waitress - Sure, just to let you know I'm going off shift soon, bartender will be taking care of you. Paul - No problem. Paul looks towards the bar and sees Will. |
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| Lifetime943 | Nov 3 2017, 04:43 PM Post #92 |
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If EJ is being brought up that's on Ron C. He could have revived Will anyway he wanted. He is choosing to have EJ's mother as the person behind Will's return. He is choosing to use an Elvis lookalike as Susan's companion & show her having a shrine to EJ (Elvis JR). Ron C is thrusting EJ and his memory right into the middle of Will's return from the dead. I had hoped that Sami would return and that the storyline would have minimal reference to EJ, but that simply is not going to be possible given the path Ron is writing this return on. |
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| Drew | Nov 3 2017, 04:46 PM Post #93 |
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It's one thing if they were never really dead, or their death was faked, but reanimating zombie cocktails? That's where daytime is going now? And forgive me, I'm Canadian, but does one normally hold a rifle above the shoulder and next to the ear? Is that how people gun? Edited by Drew, Nov 3 2017, 04:48 PM.
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| Daysfanatic79 | Nov 3 2017, 05:06 PM Post #94 |
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I want to be happy about this episode. I have Susan back, and Will is finally seen, but here I am trying to hang on to things. Now Justin and Adrienne are not my favorite couple, but I feel they deserved better than these short scenes. There was no depth there for a couple that's been going since 1986. Do I feel they did great in their scenes? No, but they didn't have a lot to work with. Some of this is the result of apathetic direction and poor breakdown and script writing. It was just a perfect storm in these scenes, and I felt bad for the couple and the fan base. Will, a very important character, is going to be stuck with this shit. I cannot get this, and personally I have arrived at the point where I am just going to enjoy every moment without Sami I get, and pray that Eileen ends up with John and Marlena scenes (without Samantha stinking it up). Sami is a black hole sucking the life out of this show. SHE is the VAMPIRE, a daytime parasite that is too over the top to be taken seriously, and so weak as an actress that she brings everyone down with her. It's sad, but I just want her gone. That said, I have also arrived at the place where I am not blaming Ali/Sami for this. Like I said before, it's the perfect storm. It's a weak story, with some bad scripts, featuring an over-rated actress ranting about everything, and piss poor production values. Anytime Ali has been great on here, she's shared the screen with better actors. More Deidre and Eileen would help. Is this the worst it's been? NO!!! This is just a waste though. It could have been outstanding. |
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| Panda Panda | Nov 3 2017, 05:31 PM Post #95 |
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Susan did lock both Marlena and Kristen up so she could marry John. And she was totally okay with Edmure killing her sister and sending Kristen off to be a sex slave for over 15 yrs without saying anything. So, yea. Susan is definitely capable of "evil" and doing whatever she can to help herself & her needs. Susan has always been a morally shady character, tbh. But we just focus on her ridiculous behavior more often. |
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| Dr. Chip | Nov 3 2017, 05:39 PM Post #96 |
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I'm not an E.J. fan, but I think these are beats that NEED to be played. Sami left Salem with clues that E.J. was alive. It needed to be addressed. And it makes sense that Sami is confused and thinks this is about him. I don't see the problem with any of that. I just hope we can move on from it now. |
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| Kenny | Nov 3 2017, 05:45 PM Post #97 |
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This. Let's not forget that Susan was introduced as the woman who sold her newborn baby (EJ) to Kristen so she could pass it off as hers and John's. And when she developed an infatuation with John, she locked Kristen in the secret room with Marlena so she could have John to herself. Then she basically raped him pretending to be Kristen. More than once. And despite her fondness for Marlena, she kept quiet about her captivity because she knew John loved her and would be with her. Then there's that whole "selling Kristen into sex slavery for 15 years" thing. Susan is no saint, LoL. Now, is any of this realistic? No. But this is a soap opera and that's her history. |
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| lysie | Nov 3 2017, 05:55 PM Post #98 |
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I don't have a problem with those beats being played. They just have a way of playing them at Will's expense. I thought they did it effectively yesterday, but they failed drastically today, IMO. But I don't think there's even a little tiny chance we're moving on from it now. |
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| WGuyMd35 | Nov 3 2017, 06:05 PM Post #99 |
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I agree. Sami has spent the past year looking for EJ, it makes sense she would think he would be involved in this too. I don't mind it and think she is being totally in character (however annoying that may be to some viewers). To further the Susan-is-Kristin theory, we saw Kristin injecting EJ's dead body with something. So Kristin knew about the "re-animation" drug. When Sami told "Susan" that EJ left her clues that he was alive, her reaction was odd - it wasn't a motherly "my son might be alive" reaction, it came across she was more concerned about what Sami found out. But - if Will is living with Susan and thinks that's his mother, that doesn't seem like something Kristin would do. She desperately wanted a baby, but taking a 20something on as your child is odd, she would have taken Ali or Johnny. |
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| Rosebud | Nov 3 2017, 06:17 PM Post #100 |
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I’ve only ever known Susan to have one job, being a nanny for John and Kristen. |
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