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'Days' Drake Drama: Real or Rumor?; from CDN TV Guide
Topic Started: Sep 3 2007, 03:41 PM (1,323 Views)
King
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juniorz1
Oct 9 2007, 07:08 AM
If any show deserves to be #1 right now, it's DAYS. If you disagree, check out the DR's top 20 polls. Best SHOW?

Like sands through the hourglass, so are the

DAYS OF OUR LIVES

:cheers:

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GET EM STEPH!!

juniorz1
Oct 9 2007, 07:08 AM
If any show deserves to be #1 right now, it's DAYS. If you disagree, check out the DR's top 20 polls. Best SHOW?

Like sands through the hourglass, so are the

DAYS OF OUR LIVES

AMEN!! :rockon:

WELCOME BACK!! :)
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Do I think that Y&R will eventually fall from first place? Yes, I do. It won't be B&B that beats it because B&B only get their viewers from the fall out of the Y&R viewers that follow the series. The only show as of right now that can beat Y&R is GH, and or OLTL if they can overthrow GH.

Could it be DAYS? Not anytime in the near future.
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I have decided that Drew that Y&R will have to take a big hit in the Over 50 Demo for it to drop out of first place. It is still scoring close to 6.0 sometime in that over 50 Demo.

Call them old or whatever you want too. But they are loyal. They stick by the shows they love through thick and thin. It takes a lot to get them to stop watching. And as long as you make the show about people they love that is what matters to them most. They have to have someone to identify with and Y&R unfortunately is the only show that gives them someone to identify with on a regular basis.
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I don't think Y&R will ever get dethroned. I did for a while. But I think it was wishful thinking.
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SteveFrame
Oct 9 2007, 08:42 AM
Oh Greg as to the DR Top 20 polls, I wouldn't count that as indication. Some weeks it deserves to be there, but some not. It is just like at SON right now where we have a bigger group of voters for some shows - the same way that OLTL stayed at the top of SON's Top 10 when they didn't deserve to be there all the time.

It is not that bad yet but it is definitely getting more fan base controlled than when we first started.

The week that EJ and Sami both won 1st and 2nd place and topped the Best Actor and Best Actress poll there were people that voted that week that I haven't even seen around here before or since then. And that is looking at the bottom to see people who were logged in that week and viewing the Top 20 polls at the time.

I love the Top 20 and love it's balance but it is not a full register of quality. I mean we have people every week that get votes and do well even when they aren't on screen. Susan Flannery has managed almost every week that she has been gone to get 3 or 4 votes. Alec Musser is hardly ever on AMC but he gets votes. And so on. Leann Hunley gets votes every week and I think she has had 2 maybe 3 shows since we started the Top 20.

LOL

I don't remember whether or not I voted in this particular poll, but I generally vote for Sami and EJ/Alison and James because they are characters/actors I enjoy the most on Days. If I do vote, it's not because someone told me what to vote for or because I want to beat another actor/couple. I vote for what keeps me watching, what I'm enthusiastic about. Why have polls in the first place if the results are disregarded?
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miou07
Oct 9 2007, 12:54 PM
SteveFrame
Oct 9 2007, 08:42 AM
Oh Greg as to the DR Top 20 polls, I wouldn't count that as indication. Some weeks it deserves to be there, but some not. It is just like at SON right now where we have a bigger group of voters for some shows - the same way that OLTL stayed at the top of SON's Top 10 when they didn't deserve to be there all the time.

It is not that bad yet but it is definitely getting more fan base controlled than when we first started.

The week that EJ and Sami both won 1st and 2nd place and topped the Best Actor and Best Actress poll there were people that voted that week that I haven't even seen around here before or since then. And that is looking at the bottom to see people who were logged in that week and viewing the Top 20 polls at the time.

I love the Top 20 and love it's balance but it is not a full register of quality. I mean we have people every week that get votes and do well even when they aren't on screen. Susan Flannery has managed almost every week that she has been gone to get 3 or 4 votes. Alec Musser is hardly ever on AMC but he gets votes. And so on. Leann Hunley gets votes every week and I think she has had 2 maybe 3 shows since we started the Top 20.

LOL

I don't remember whether or not I voted in this particular poll, but I generally vote for Sami and EJ/Alison and James because they are characters/actors I enjoy the most on Days. If I do vote, it's not because someone told me what to vote for or because I'm want to beat another actor/couple. I vote for what keeps me watching, what I'm enthusiastic about. Why have polls in the first place if the results are disregarded?

miou ~ there was one week a while back that a poster who isn't a regular here, but is registered, put up a thread at FL in the "internet poll" section and a lot of people who will register anywhere and vote for all things EJami just to beat others (which was indeed the just of the post at FL) did when that thread was still up. While you aren't necessarily one of them, a lot of people over there, are. That's why I knew what SteveFrame meant by his comments that people came and voted and haven't been back. The post, before it was taken down, actually had the tallies in it. Thank goodness for the staff at FL who immediately removed the thread once they saw it.
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Sephora
Oct 9 2007, 12:06 PM
miou07
Oct 9 2007, 12:54 PM
SteveFrame
Oct 9 2007, 08:42 AM
Oh Greg as to the DR Top 20 polls, I wouldn't count that as indication. Some weeks it deserves to be there, but some not. It is just like at SON right now where we have a bigger group of voters for some shows - the same way that OLTL stayed at the top of SON's Top 10 when they didn't deserve to be there all the time.

It is not that bad yet but it is definitely getting more fan base controlled than when we first started.

The week that EJ and Sami both won 1st and 2nd place and topped the Best Actor and Best Actress poll there were people that voted that week that I haven't even seen around here before or since then. And that is looking at the bottom to see people who were logged in that week and viewing the Top 20 polls at the time.

I love the Top 20 and love it's balance but it is not a full register of quality. I mean we have people every week that get votes and do well even when they aren't on screen. Susan Flannery has managed almost every week that she has been gone to get 3 or 4 votes. Alec Musser is hardly ever on AMC but he gets votes. And so on. Leann Hunley gets votes every week and I think she has had 2 maybe 3 shows since we started the Top 20.

LOL

I don't remember whether or not I voted in this particular poll, but I generally vote for Sami and EJ/Alison and James because they are characters/actors I enjoy the most on Days. If I do vote, it's not because someone told me what to vote for or because I'm want to beat another actor/couple. I vote for what keeps me watching, what I'm enthusiastic about. Why have polls in the first place if the results are disregarded?

miou ~ there was one week a while back that a poster who isn't a regular here, but is registered, put up a thread at FL in the "internet poll" section and a lot of people who will register anywhere and vote for all things EJami just to beat others (which was indeed the just of the post at FL) did when that thread was still up. While you aren't necessarily one of them, a lot of people over there, are. That's why I knew what SteveFrame meant by his comments that people came and voted and haven't been back. The post, before it was taken down, actually had the tallies in it. Thank goodness for the staff at FL who immediately removed the thread once they saw it.

Thanks Seph. I didn't know about that. If I do notice a poll, I'll vote in it, why the heck not? Maybe I'm a little touchy right now because I'm getting really tired of being questioned on other boards as to why or how can I like the people that I like (Sami and EJ as a couple).

I think I need to step back and take a breath and not take what other's say to heart. Maybe what I really need to do is take a two week break from most of the boards. That might be a better solution. :)
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Wow great article! The Canadian media are so much more honest!

Do it, Ed! I've had a feeling that both DAYS and B&B were going to be trying to be more like the old Y&R to court disenchanted Y&R viewers. This would seriously be a terrific strategy for DAYS.
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miou07
Oct 9 2007, 11:54 AM
SteveFrame
Oct 9 2007, 08:42 AM
Oh Greg as to the DR Top 20 polls, I wouldn't count that as indication. Some weeks it deserves to be there, but some not. It is just like at SON right now where we have a bigger group of voters for some shows - the same way that OLTL stayed at the top of SON's Top 10 when they didn't deserve to be there all the time.

It is not that bad yet but it is definitely getting more fan base controlled than when we first started.

The week that EJ and Sami both won 1st and 2nd place and topped the Best Actor and Best Actress poll there were people that voted that week that I haven't even seen around here before or since then. And that is looking at the bottom to see people who were logged in that week and viewing the Top 20 polls at the time.

I love the Top 20 and love it's balance but it is not a full register of quality. I mean we have people every week that get votes and do well even when they aren't on screen. Susan Flannery has managed almost every week that she has been gone to get 3 or 4 votes. Alec Musser is hardly ever on AMC but he gets votes. And so on. Leann Hunley gets votes every week and I think she has had 2 maybe 3 shows since we started the Top 20.

LOL

I don't remember whether or not I voted in this particular poll, but I generally vote for Sami and EJ/Alison and James because they are characters/actors I enjoy the most on Days. If I do vote, it's not because someone told me what to vote for or because I want to beat another actor/couple. I vote for what keeps me watching, what I'm enthusiastic about. Why have polls in the first place if the results are disregarded?

I don't think anywhere that I said the results were totally disregarded.

If anyone will take the time to look at the rules and guidelines for which we started The Daytime Top 20 we set it up not as a fave poll but as a Best of Poll. That is the reason we give people threads to point out who they feel was the best that week and pimp them.

We do not at the same time stop people from voting for who they want. That is their perogative. There are some sites that set up the Best of Polls and if a person wasn't on that week they will not allow them to be voted for. We do not do that. You vote for whoever you please to vote for. But the Top 20 is not just a favorite show or favorite performer poll.

We are not naive enough to know that the fan bases will still not try to fix the results. It happens with any magazine poll or online poll these days. We just try to stress the fact that our poll is designed to be different. We have lofty expectations that people will vote who is the best that week and not who is just their favorite.

I applaud Mary who admitted to not voting for Days 2 weeks ago as she said even though it is her favorite it didn't deserve the vote.

Frankly the week that EJ/Sami won I didn't have that much of a problem with it as that week EJ/Sami had some great scenes and were very good. There have been other weeks when they are Days top duo in the poll and other performers have blown them away.

So no the results are not totally disregarded but as someone else pointed out a few weeks ago when people or shows win consistently every week no matter what then it makes it hard to appreciate the weeks they really deserve to be at the top.

And one last comment, fan bases feel like they are helping their performer but they are actually not. And they are not helping their show either. When fan bases consistently put their performer at the top at the expense of others who deserve the limelight at times, they only harbor resentment for that couple or actor among others. The saddest thing is that many times yes they rob another show from getting the spotlight but it also robs others from the same show to shine when they deserve too.

When SON had their top 10 Michael Easton and Alicia Minshew and Renee Elise Goldsberry stayed at the top so often and consistently that they became hated, no one appreciated them anymore, and many of their own castmates never got the recognition they deserved.
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Oct 9 2007, 12:43 PM
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Oct 9 2007, 11:54 AM
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Oct 9 2007, 08:42 AM
Oh Greg as to the DR Top 20 polls, I wouldn't count that as indication. Some weeks it deserves to be there, but some not. It is just like at SON right now where we have a bigger group of voters for some shows - the same way that OLTL stayed at the top of SON's Top 10 when they didn't deserve to be there all the time.

It is not that bad yet but it is definitely getting more fan base controlled than when we first started.

The week that EJ and Sami both won 1st and 2nd place and topped the Best Actor and Best Actress poll there were people that voted that week that I haven't even seen around here before or since then. And that is looking at the bottom to see people who were logged in that week and viewing the Top 20 polls at the time.

I love the Top 20 and love it's balance but it is not a full register of quality. I mean we have people every week that get votes and do well even when they aren't on screen. Susan Flannery has managed almost every week that she has been gone to get 3 or 4 votes. Alec Musser is hardly ever on AMC but he gets votes. And so on. Leann Hunley gets votes every week and I think she has had 2 maybe 3 shows since we started the Top 20.

LOL

I don't remember whether or not I voted in this particular poll, but I generally vote for Sami and EJ/Alison and James because they are characters/actors I enjoy the most on Days. If I do vote, it's not because someone told me what to vote for or because I want to beat another actor/couple. I vote for what keeps me watching, what I'm enthusiastic about. Why have polls in the first place if the results are disregarded?

I don't think anywhere that I said the results were totally disregarded.

If anyone will take the time to look at the rules and guidelines for which we started The Daytime Top 20 we set it up not as a fave poll but as a Best of Poll. That is the reason we give people threads to point out who they feel was the best that week and pimp them.

We do not at the same time stop people from voting for who they want. That is their perogative. There are some sites that set up the Best of Polls and if a person wasn't on that week they will not allow them to be voted for. We do not do that. You vote for whoever you please to vote for. But the Top 20 is not just a favorite show or favorite performer poll.

We are not naive enough to know that the fan bases will still not try to fix the results. It happens with any magazine poll or online poll these days. We just try to stress the fact that our poll is designed to be different. We have lofty expectations that people will vote who is the best that week and not who is just their favorite.

I applaud Mary who admitted to not voting for Days 2 weeks ago as she said even though it is her favorite it didn't deserve the vote.

Frankly the week that EJ/Sami won I didn't have that much of a problem with it as that week EJ/Sami had some great scenes and were very good. There have been other weeks when they are Days top duo in the poll and other performers have blown them away.

So no the results are not totally disregarded but as someone else pointed out a few weeks ago when people or shows win consistently every week no matter what then it makes it hard to appreciate the weeks they really deserve to be at the top.

And one last comment, fan bases feel like they are helping their performer but they are actually not. And they are not helping their show either. When fan bases consistently put their performer at the top at the expense of others who deserve the limelight at times, they only harbor resentment for that couple or actor among others. The saddest thing is that many times yes they rob another show from getting the spotlight but it also robs others from the same show to shine when they deserve too.

When SON had their top 10 Michael Easton and Alicia Minshew and Renee Elise Goldsberry stayed at the top so often and consistently that they became hated, no one appreciated them anymore, and many of their own castmates never got the recognition they deserved.

Good points Steve. And you're right, if someone gives a mediocre performance, they don't deserve to get a vote for the best. If I felt like my "faves" on a particular week were sleepwalking through a performance, I just wouldn't bother to vote for them. And if I felt the someone I normally wouldn't take much notice of gave a knockout performance, I'd vote for that person. And I apologize if it sounded in any way like I was knocking you or this site--I'm glad that I found DR. I enjoy visiting here because most people do tend to look at soaps as a whole rather than a fanbase vehicle.
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OT, but King, I LOVE your new banner!
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Thanks, Mason!
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Put your hands up for Obama

I am shocked they actually fired him. Not that he's Brando or Depp, but he had a huge fanbase. He shouldn't have whined so much.
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Well, actually, Lucas is a Horton and he is more of a real Days character than a newly comeuppance foreigner. I think EJ has to go and the sooner the better. Days started dropping as soon as it was apparent that Sami was going to come under his spell. Major mistake. James Scott is a good actor and a good-looking one with charisma. He could have had a story that would have been invigorating and shot him to superstardom but instead he was put into a loathsome position with LUMI fans. He could have been an excellent hero type. What a waste. With a name of DiMera and the wretched personality he has, I don't know if he can be redeemed so that is why I think he should just go.

Back on topic of Drake. I see no reason to have a fake death with rating in the gutter. Personally, I'm sick to death of fake anything or misleading anything. Give us a story with a sweet and good ending in sight and reward us with watching it happen...for a change.

And as far as having characters that the viewers can relate, to.....I relate to Belle. She is more my style, now that she has taken charge of her life.
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I liked Drake when he first came on but once they revealed he was John Black and not Roman and brought back Wayne for the first time, I stopped liking him. I loved Days back in the 80s but as long as they have ex-faux Roman and nu-faux Roman, I just can't get into it.

Maybe this will be good for the show. Marlena can move on and there are so many possibilities for her. Sometimes there long-time couplings become stale and the show is afraid to break them up. Marlena has had many loves before. I liked her with Don, loved her with real Roman and even liked her with Drake's Roman at first. She can be great with a new lover too.
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Oct 13 2007, 02:52 AM
Personally, I'm sick to death of fake anything or misleading anything.  Give us a story with a sweet and good ending in sight and reward us with watching it happen...for a change.


:hail: Quote of the week Jean

And I actually think this time it's for real. I think Drake is deader than a doornail.
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