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Days Weekly Discussion; Week of Sept. 10
Topic Started: Sep 10 2007, 02:12 PM (2,410 Views)
King
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Definitely post it!
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PhoenixRising05
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GET EM STEPH!!

King
Sep 12 2007, 05:04 PM
Definitely post it!

It's posted in the spoiler forum, King. :)
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Loved seeing Claire Bear again! She looked older then the last time we saw her. Anna should be on this week since LeAnn was credited at the end so hopefully that wasn't a mistake.

I think I figured out why things get so screwing with think Leann and Judi Evans were contract awhile ago. Renee Jones is the last contract actor to be added those appearing after her are contract and that includes Alison and James as Colleen and Santo for some reason they consider that recurring since they came after Ava and Olivia.
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jcar03
Sep 12 2007, 06:00 PM
Loved seeing Claire Bear again! She looked older then the last time we saw her. Anna should be on this week since LeAnn was credited at the end so hopefully that wasn't a mistake.

I think I figured out why things get so screwing with think Leann and Judi Evans were contract awhile ago. Renee Jones is the last contract actor to be added those appearing after her are contract and that includes Alison and James as Colleen and Santo for some reason they consider that recurring since they came after Ava and Olivia.

LeAnn is on Thursday and Friday, Jcar. Not Sure about Monday but she may on then too.

The whole contract/recurring thing with LeAnn and Judi still confuses me. Thaoo claims LeAnn isn't on contract but Jason47 said she was at one point and also said the same about Judi. I don't know what to think.
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I can't wait to see Anna again, i've missed her so much..and tony, anna, roman, and kate all together is going to be wonderful..
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I still have major issues with Max/Stephanie as a couple, but I have to admit I liked them today. Stephanie is being written much better lately. However, they HAVE to address the related-but-not-by-blood issue. I want to see Kayla get up in Max's face and say "You're my brother; why are you trying to have sex with my daughter?" She also needs to have a discussion with Stephanie about the perception of incest even though they aren't blood relatives. IF they can deal with it straight on, in a realistic way, this pairing may work, but there's a lot of people who aren't feeling it yet. I just hope it isn't dealt with offscreen like so many other things have been. This is something that Max and Stephanie need to work through, but also viewers have to work through it.

Thaao was chilling and creepy and wonderful as Andre the clown. Like the scenes at the gym when he was dressed as the ugliest transsexual ever, this could have been high camp but instead was suspenseful and scary. I also loved Sami's reaction--she went from absolute terror to scared but spunky just before Lucas came back. I love Sami when she shows that feisty side!

So, Roman, how's the big plan working out? Half of Salem KNOWS Stefano's death was faked; the other half SUSPECTS it was faked. No one is EVER going to believe the Phoenix is really dead.

Although Shawn was absolutely wrong to make the decision about joining the police academy without discussing it first with Belle, I'm in agreement with him about not wanting Belle running around "helping" Philip all the time. This is her ex husband, the man who terrorized them for months, he's proven he'll do ANYTHING to get what he wants, and he's made it clear to Shawn that he still wants Belle. I think Shawn's right on this one.

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I think Shawn may have made his fatal mistake. No man or woman wants their significant other to track them down when they know what is going on. It is a huge "I don't trust you" signal. I totally feel Belle in this and was absolutely shocked that the stupid Shawn returned.

Claire doesn't look much older and this little girl looks just like the other baby.

Also, who cannot believe that neither Bo nor Kayla looked shocked and angry to find their brother with Stephanie in that obvious position? My skin crawled. At least we know it was an "almost" not actual.
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Jean, I don't think they recasted Claire. I know they took her off contract but it's the same little girl unless I missed something.
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☼ Jinx ☼
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Its the same girl I believe. Claire wasn't recasted. She looks too much like her.
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Sep 12 2007, 06:56 PM
I think Shawn may have made his fatal mistake. No man or woman wants their significant other to track them down when they know what is going on. It is a huge "I don't trust you" signal. I totally feel Belle in this and was absolutely shocked that the stupid Shawn returned.

Claire doesn't look much older and this little girl looks just like the other baby.

Also, who cannot believe that neither Bo nor Kayla looked shocked and angry to find their brother with Stephanie in that obvious position? My skin crawled. At least we know it was an "almost" not actual.

I agree Shawn made a mistake with his surprise visit, but I understand how he feels. Even if he trusts Belle (and the way these two lie to each other, they don't have much basis for trust), he doesn't trust Philip.

It was good to see Claire. She's so cute and seems to be quite the talker now.

I also wish we had seen more reaction from Bo and Kayla when they came across Max and Stephanie in their compromising position. I don't care they aren't blood relatives, Stephanie was raised knowing her "Uncle Max", and this is just icky. They can't make these two a rooting couple unless and until the family issue is addressed, discussed and worked through and even with that some viewers will never overcome their revulsion. My husband has an adopted brother, and the idea of my daughter dating him is so disgusting that I can't even imagine how I'd react.
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I don't see the big incest deal with Max and Stephanie, b/c they aren't blood related and its not like they grew up in the same household as brother and sister. Maybe its because I live in Tennessee? :lol:

I am LOVING Thaao as Andre, give me more!
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They are uncle and neice. My surprise was that Bo and Kayla weren't shocked. They would be the ones that this would affect as Max and Steph are only feeling hormones....not considering consequences.

If these two are to pursue a romantic interest, the fans need to see it worked out instead of just brushing the importance of relationships aside.

My husband and I are fourth cousins (we just learned that) and I even have pause to wonder even from this distance. Thankfully our families never knew one another so we don't have a feeling of being raised as cousins.

It just was so unreal that Bo and Kayla were showing only relief at finding them.
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Well, in all fairness, their first concern was for their safety so their first reaction being relief is realistic. They jumped out of a plane and Bo and Kayla were just happy to see them alive so I am glad they showed that instead of immediate reaction to the lovemaking.
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Sep 12 2007, 11:30 PM
Well, in all fairness, their first concern was for their safety so their first reaction being relief is realistic. They jumped out of a plane and Bo and Kayla were just happy to see them alive so I am glad they showed that instead of immediate reaction to the lovemaking.

I understand this, and I also understand that Kayla felt an urgency to tell Stephanie about Steve "killing" Stefano. However, lately DAYS has made a habit of skipping over emotional scenes that we need to see, and I don't want that to happen here. If they don't acknowledge and deal with the family issue, Max and Stephanie are not going to be accepted as a new couple by many viewers. Simple as that. I hope the writers realize this and write the story appropriately. They had an opportunity Wednesday that they missed--when Stephanie and Max were getting dressed, she made a comment about how Kayla must feel seeing her daughter who is dating one guy making out with another guy. She could easily have said something like "My mom's probably freaking out. I'm supposed to be in love with Jeremy and she finds me making out with another guy who also happens to be her brother!" That acknowledgment would at least let the viewers know that the writers are planning to deal with the fallout of a relationship between these two.
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Days4Life
Sep 13 2007, 11:20 AM
PhoenixRising05
Sep 12 2007, 11:30 PM
Well, in all fairness, their first concern was for their safety so their first reaction being relief is realistic.  They jumped out of a plane and Bo and Kayla were just happy to see them alive so I am glad they showed that instead of immediate reaction to the lovemaking.

I understand this, and I also understand that Kayla felt an urgency to tell Stephanie about Steve "killing" Stefano. However, lately DAYS has made a habit of skipping over emotional scenes that we need to see, and I don't want that to happen here. If they don't acknowledge and deal with the family issue, Max and Stephanie are not going to be accepted as a new couple by many viewers. Simple as that. I hope the writers realize this and write the story appropriately. They had an opportunity Wednesday that they missed--when Stephanie and Max were getting dressed, she made a comment about how Kayla must feel seeing her daughter who is dating one guy making out with another guy. She could easily have said something like "My mom's probably freaking out. I'm supposed to be in love with Jeremy and she finds me making out with another guy who also happens to be her brother!" That acknowledgment would at least let the viewers know that the writers are planning to deal with the fallout of a relationship between these two.

Oh, I agree. They can't gloss over it and they really haven't. They have made subtle references so that is a start but they really need to go a little further with it. All I was saying was I understand Bo and Kayla initial reaction to finding them. I would feel relieved to finding my loved ones alive after they jumped out of a plane.

I do feel that since Ed's material started the show is doing a better job of giving us the necessary scenes to move and execute stories. There is some motional intensity and the connection to the characters is there again so I think it's improving in that regard. Hopefully, it continues.
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I agree that there is improvement under Ed Scott, but they have to keep it up if they want to win back the viewers' trust. I think story execution will continue to improve and look forward to it.

And I agree...if I had found my brother and daughter after they jumped out of a plane, my first thought would be relief. But once we were back home....
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Kate vs. Anna is AWESOME!!!!!!


Anna: I heard you're re-visiting your checkered past with Stefano. Isn't there a word for that?
Kate: Whatever. I'm outta here.


HAHAH.
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There was a real sense of danger today in the last scene. DAYS hasn't had the feel of danger since the SSK.

Bravo, DAYS!
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I look forward to commenting on tomorrow's US episode. It was fantastic!
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After all... tomorrow is another day!

Yay for the Salem Spectator printout and again the use of quick flashbacks to set up the story. I feel like the show's plots are getting order and proper pacing again and I like this. The directors and producers FINALLY understand how to build drama not just from episode to episode but from act to act and scene to scene. It feels like a real soap again.

Please bring on the Tony/Anna/Roman/Kate quad! This has the potential for so much deliciousness. Each corner of the square has good chemistry with all the other parts and even though I want Tony and Anna and Kate and Roman together in the end, I'm thrilled with Romanna/Tote detours if it leads to Kate-Anna Dynasty-style catfights and Roman and Tony getting a chance to play some Brady-vs-DiMera angst out in a way that doesn't involve stabbings or non-fatal bombs or faked deaths or old love letters.

Loved the EJ and Sami scenes. The wheeling away to sit against the wall and the joke about the broken glass still in his hair were cute even as the show yet again playfully dances around that elephant in the room and says I don't want to think about that today, I'll think about that tomorrow despite promises weeks ago from that producer who was fired that it be dealt with in "a fundamental way." It was funny that Sami didn't seem to think her dad's plot to catch Andre would work any more than EJ did. The EJ and Sami watching Santo and Colleen in bed voyeurism was kind of unintentionally funny, although I do think they played it just right with Sami looking so horrified while EJ just sat there with a big smile on his face, plus it was nice to have the break from people just sitting around and reading Colleen-Santo letters to tell the story. The use of "Easter 1916" by Yeats in this story is both baffling and intriguing to me. Is this soap really getting SOOOO deep they are trying to draw parallels between the martyred patriots who died in the Dublin post office during the infancy of Ireland's eventually successful bid for independence from Britain leading to the birth of the "terrible beauty" that was a free Ireland to Colleen's death perhaps leading to Sami's eventual independence from the expectations of the Brady family and the birth of the "terrible beauty" of an EJ and Sami romance? Probably not. I bet they just thought it sounded cool. But you know I paid a lot of money for that Irish lit class I took when I was studying abroad in Dublin so I'll be damned if I don't use a thing or too I learned then to overanalyze this soap. It's not like I have a chance to use that sort of information in my real life.

Roman Thomas? Pfft. Sorry Tom Horton. But Sami's boy is so going to wind up EJ's and going to have Santo for a first or middle name. Although if the girl winds up Lucas's maybe this means she'll get to be Alice, which I would dig.

Is it just me or did JT distort his voice a little bit when he had his monologue talking over Stefano talking in the coffin to try to sound more like Wayne Northrup? OK it was just me, but that scene was just funny because as much as I appreciate them trying to incorporate some real history with what they've manufactured for this storyline I couldn't help thinking that 20 years ago JT was Chris Kosichek so why would he think the feud was about him all this time? But LOL at Andre's flowers AND Roman being too stupid to see the card without Hope finding it. And while I appreciate the drama of drunk Kate being left in the bar to be terrorized by rattling doorknob of mystery, if they think Andre is after her isn't that even MORE reason to have her go with them to the funeral so the lure of Stefano's funeral AND her brings Andre out?

What the hell was Belle crying about? And why did Shawn fly into Tulsa with his kid when he has no job and no money only to fly back right away after having dropped off said kid with fiance and her ex-husband only to torture me with the fact that my first Hope scene in what seems like forever is me being stuck reminded that this loser is her son with Bo? Ugh. I also wish they did more to show Bope and Shawn's hostility toward Kate when they are all in the pub together because I don't think they've ever addressed the way that Kate put Shelle and Claire and Bo in danger by helping Phillip and EJ track them down in Tinda Lao, let alone what Kate did for causing so many of Shawn and Belle and Phillip's problems in the first place with her keeping the Claire paternity a secret. Isn't this bitch EVER going to get any comeuppance? I mean more than a lame insult from Shawn that allows her to throw it back in his face that he's a bartender. Oh I forgot, it's Kate. She can blackmail her granddaughter's boyfriend and daughter's ex-lover into being her accomplice into getting her unborn twin grandchildren nearly aborted just to spite Sami and there's no consequences. Not even when her doing so also screws over EJ and could have resulted in Stefano dying. But she gets away with it all. Because she's Kate. Sure she had to sleep with Stefano and everyone knows it so that brings her down a per or two... but she still GOT PAID. That's not comeuppance. That's a business transaction.


A few other things I have to address.
-I'm curious to see what they do with Kate and Tony's made up history.
-I'm not surprised they are ignoring Kate and Andre's history when they had that sexy tango and limo tryst a few years back, although I kind of wish they hadn't.
-Anna is being a hypocrite by trashing Kate's past as having been one of Stefano's hookers when didn't she come to the show as having been one of Stefano's hookers? That doesn't stop me from loving Anna to pieces, mind you, I just have to point this out.
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