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DAYS: Weekly Discussion; Week of Sept. 17th
Topic Started: Sep 17 2007, 01:25 PM (1,955 Views)
King
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DAYS was kick ass today!

I wish everyday could be like this....

LMAO at naked Kate!
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I agree. I loved every minute of it and can't wait until tomorrow.

I was shocked when Benjy shot Stefano and then he woke up. Why did OMB not appear to be surprised that this was a set up?

Lucas, Kate, and EJ in the alley was mighty funny. EJ's facial expression changed once found out Kate was naked. Then him complimenting her on how fabulous she looks and her snark back at him "love" :P

I am with Sami, OMB needs to speak up. Isn't it about time for this to come to an end. I don't want to hear about this fued anymore.

Oh and at the cemetary that laugh of Andre's was quit hilarious. Anna being so dramatic over Roman being missing. That woman makes me laugh.
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After all... tomorrow is another day!

I guess I have a case of the Mondays because this episode made me really bitchy and nitpicky.

Overall this was an entertaining and exciting episode full of drama and the great lighting and editing I've grown accustomed to under Ed Scott but...

-Why did Benjy have a gun and bring it to the funeral? How did he know Stefano wasn't really dead? Or was he just that angry he wanted to empty some rounds into his corpse? So stupid that they went ahead with the funeral that no one thought was real. But still I did find it intriguing that after all these times of Kayla not having the guts to pull the plug when she visited Stefano in Italy, Sami not being able to pull the trigger at DiMansion, Roman having his gun out and thinking about shooting him last week that it was a DiMera who was the one who finally had the guts to pull the trigger, even if the Bradys wound up thwarting him by putting that bulletproof vest on Stefano. Still pissed Celeste isn't at this funeral. But I love Stefano's freakout and the power outage, especially the end with Grandpa Shawn blowing out the candles. Frank Parker was stellar.

-Enjoyed the Lucas-Sami-EJ conversation. I am amused that Lucas is so at his wit's end about EJ and Sami that he doesn't even think about what a bad idea it is to argue with her in front of EJ nowadays. Kind of crappy he is calling her "crazy" and questioning her mental state over and over so I was also glad that Sami stood up for herself somewhat until she finally told EJ to leave and I was glad he didn't. Also loved the touch where you saw EJ's hands in the corner of the frame playing "She loves me... she loves me not" with the rose petals. Don't know if that was in the script, James Scott's idea or the director's, but whoever came up with it, I adore them for it. I didn't like however them putting the line in EJ's mouth that he saved Lucas's life TWICE. He has actually saved Lucas's life three times in the past 13 months if EJ is going to take credit for the beam lifting and the freezer truck rescue as he also rescued Lucas from the fire in his and Carrie's apt., and given this was a script written by like the one writer who actually was working at DOOL last summer I expect her to know that and present that truth, even if it goes against the current characterization of EJ as completely selfish and manipulative. But that sniping aside and even if EJ has already confessed his love for Sami before (when Lucas made him promise to move out of his apartment), it's nice to hear it again if only for the way that James Scott is perfection as he delivers those lines all quiet with his bedroom eyes... *swoon* Lucas doesn't stand a chance.

-What is up with Hogan Sheffer's obsession with people being trapped in the cold or heat and stuff exploding? I don't know if there is some parallel we are supposed to draw from EJ and Sami being trapped in the sauna by Andre and EJ getting injured and wheeled away on a gurney trying to help them escape when pretty much the same thing happened with Belle and Shawn in this freezer or the show is really just THAT redundant. But yay for Hope having the Salem brain and knowing to look at the pub.

-Memo to Bryan Dattilo: VENdetta, not VANdetta.

-Why didn't Roman tell anyone where he went? So stupid. Is it wrong that I am kinda sorta rooting for Andre a little bit at this point? He's just so good at punishing the idiots of Salem. Love the evil laughter and that he stole the chauffeur's uniform.

-But why did they have Andre take Kate's clothes? Was it just more misogynistic sexual degradation masquerading as light humor in Sheffer's world? Was it to have Kate and EJ interact in front of Lucas to embarrass him with a reminder of Kate's prosmiscuity? Or to remind us of EJ's lecherous past. If it was supposed to remind us of the EJ-Kate debacle as a sign they are not whitewashing that then that leads me into...

-As much as the Marlena-Sami conversation helped advance EJami and the idea that Sami has feelings for E.J. and as much as I normally like scripts written by Jodie Scholz, I still didn't like today's scene between them. AT ALL really. Not that we really have that much of a barometer for what a normal Marlena and Sami conversation SHOULD be like given how strangely undeveloped that relationship is after all the years of them both being on the canvas but so far removed from each other's orbits, I still think it just doesn't make any sense on either of their parts. I don't understand how or why Sami had her big epiphany last fall that she should completely and totally forgive her mom's affair and embrace John after she had that FANTASTIC anti-Brady drunken scene at Carrie and Austin's wedding other than it possibly having been somehow tied to the revelation that EJ was a DiMera but I don't get why that would trigger that 180 in her. I also HATE the way they are ignoring the way that Marlena should hate EJ with every fiber of her being after she not only is supposed to believe he raped her daughter, but also is supposed to think EJ shot John putting him into a coma and then orchestrating the hijacking of his kidney. You know, besides being the son of the man who kidnapped and tortured her for years because of his obsession with her. And I just don't get where this whitewashing is coming from after just a month or two ago they were going to such great pains to make what happened between EJ and Sami in the car even WORSE than it actually was with the spurious claim being thrown around by the characters that EJ forced Sami to have sex with him at gunpoint and all the dialogue about EJ and Sami was raperaperaperaperapehijackedkidneyraperaperapehijackedkidney after they had failed to have Sami act like a rape victim the first five months of the year. This show needs to stop giving me whiplash with their dropped plotpoints and lack of convictions.

And what was up with Marlena questioning Sami about her thoughts on whether Lucas might fail her? I mean there is such RICH history for Marlena to think that's a possibility and Sami to be insecure about that given Lucas and Sami's history so if you are going to throw out lines like that why not use it? Ugh and they have Sami sobbing and Marlena saying that Sami has become the woman she always thought she could be? Marlena always thought Sami could grow up to be an emotional wreck? What the hell was all that about?

I think I'm most pissed though because I have long thought there was a Roman/Marlena/John quality to this triangle but they are just bungling it all so much that it is robbing this story of the emotional impact it SHOULD have. If Sami is going to forgive Marlena for John it would have made sense if she did that AFTER she had an affair, not before, unless she was lusting for someone other than her husband from the getgo and if that was the case they should have shown it to make that clear that's why that happened. Also, it was so awkward the way they just had Marlena talk about Sami's feelings for EJ in comparison to hers with John so clinically and out of the blue, even if she is a psychiatrist, as there just seemed to be so much emotional detachment talking about it and it's such a waste because this could be a BIG story for Marlena, too, if instead of them manufacturing a heart to heart between Sami and Marlena this way... what if just like Sami walked in on John and Marlena at the office that 14 years later it was Marlena walking in on her daughter sharing a kiss with someone that wasn't her daughter's husband in finding her with EJ. Marlena wouldn't be able to judge her daughter for that infidelity at all given her past so that would probably keep her quiet, but at the same time she would have to feel hugely betrayed by her daughter kissing the man who hurt John the way he did and confused/worried given Sami's rape accusations about the man she's kissing and so we get great Marlena angst as those things eat her up inside.

Yeah it would be dark and angsty and complicated, but it could be very good soap. I just feel like this is the show letting themselves off the hook way too easily for the biggest mistake of a story arc in DOOL history that they set up that last week of December last year and the way they are writing Marlena today makes me wonder if the real reason they are writing out John is that they can't seem to find a way to reconcile what they showed EJ doing to John with their plans for EJ in the future so they are just trying to make John disappear. I'm a huge EJ fan and could give a crap about John for the most part, but even I don't think that's right if that's the case. I hope I'm wrong about that.

Now all that said... I did love when Marlena yelled "SAMI!" when she was freaking out over Roman and Marlena just gave her that cold stare. I sort of got a flashback to the Marlena of old, the Marlena of the 90s who I loved and didn't take any crap from her daughter or suffer fools gladly, the Marlena before SSK and Melaswen and Alex North damaged the character so much. Damn I miss her.
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I loved today's show! There were so many great moments, and a couple things that didn't make a lot of sense but I'm going to ignore those and focus on the good. I love-to-hate Andre, who is just so wicked and so smart and has half of Salem running around in circles right now!

Frank Parker is doing excellent work, but I agree it's time for Grandpa Shawn to come clean with what he knows. I found the flashback scene very intriguing with the twist of Santo's wife being alive...or is Stefano lying? I can't wait for a grown-up Shawn/Stefano confrontation!

I'm so glad EJ called out Lucas on his bossy, condescending, caveman behavior towards Sami. I've been yelling that at my TV all summer.

I hope Kate remembers that Andre taped her conversation with Roman so they can figure out that wasn't a legitimate phone call. Judging from the promo that aired during the show, Roman is not in a good place!
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GET EM STEPH!!

Superb show today. Loved the gothic feel. Very creepy.

EJ calling out Lucas was nice and I enjoyed them finding Kate naked. It was likely just Andre having fun so I don't see a need to have them show a scene explaining that. It would be unnecessary IMO. Loved EJ mentioning he had seen Kate naked before. Cute, flirtatious moment there. Lucas's reactions were funny.

Kate in the Pub hanging from a noose was freaky. Good dramatic scene though with her, Roman, and Andre.

Sami/Marlena was good too and very needed . Loved her yelling at her. Dee and Ali were great.

I also enjoy how Bo and Hope were all over the place today. This is why I disagree with those who say they have very little to do. Sure, it's not their own story because it is an umbrella story but they are very active. Loved it and the resolution to the Belle/Shawn cliffhanger was well-done. It wasn't over the top and there were no crappy SFX. Loved Bo's reactions throughout the episode. You can tell Peter is playing it like Bo knows he screwed up :lol: .

The funeral scenes and cemetery scenes were awesome. John and Abe together again was nice (even though Drake was a total downer) and I enjoyed seeing Lexie/Marlena interact and helping Benji. The Benji scene was great, as was Stefano waking up and threatening everyone. The scene with him and Abe was very good. Frank Parker also shined today too. Loved that flashback. The feud story is getting a chilling feel to it. You can just feel this thing building to something big now. Ed Scott is saving it big time. Loved Andre's laughs, Anna being over dramatic, and the way they ended the show with everyone wondering about Roman.

Oh, and about Benji, he knows his father tends to "rise" from the dead so he probably brought it to shoot him and make sure he stayed dead this time. Simple enough for me.

The show is on a roll. Based on things I have read, it looks like the vets are back big time because they are even appearing in the B-C story shows now.
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So much happened today.

It was just like a 90's episode. Dark. Lots of running around town. I feel like the episodes are starting to have arcs, and so are the weeks.


I really think Ed Scott is doing wonders for Hoagie.
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GET EM STEPH!!

You can say that again, King. Everything feels so much more cohesive and there is a direction and purpose behind everything. It really is engrossing.

I have a feeling we will be seeing more vets too. When they start showing up even in days with the supporting stories airing, you know things are on the upswing.
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IMissAremid
Sep 17 2007, 02:15 PM
-Why did Benjy have a gun and bring it to the funeral? How did he know Stefano wasn't really dead? Or was he just that angry he wanted to empty some rounds into his corpse?

yeah, I kind of gave up on that over the weekend. It bothered me a great deal, but I still find it dumb. Of course, Benjy appears to be intelligent enough to know his father doesn't die.
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GET EM STEPH!!

Nixsoaps
Sep 17 2007, 08:58 PM
IMissAremid
Sep 17 2007, 02:15 PM
-Why did Benjy have a gun and bring it to the funeral? How did he know Stefano wasn't really dead? Or was he just that angry he wanted to empty some rounds into his corpse?

yeah, I kind of gave up on that over the weekend. It bothered me a great deal, but I still find it dumb. Of course, Benjy appears to be intelligent enough to know his father doesn't die.

Which is why he did it. He needed to make sure he stayed dead. That was his mindset. He no longer cares about the man and needed to make sure he was gone to ensure the safety of those he cares about, along with himself.
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I didn't know that Benjy bringing a gun would confuse anyone. That seemed pretty straight forward that Benjy who had just be attacked and had his part of his liver stolen for his father to live and left for dead. He really did think he was dead. Not that complicated at all.
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Benjy shooting the gun repeatedly was very dramatic. I loved that scene! But, I gave up hope a long time ago of Stefano EVER dying!

Kate naked in the street was funny :lol: It was a good way for Andre to keep her put.

EJ telling Sami and Lucas for that matter, that he loves Sami was hilarious. I'm surprised Lucas didn't beat the living shit out of him, but hearing that was nothing shocking, really.
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I'm shocked and saddened to see that Santo is a LYING DOG!!

Get away from him Colleen.

that selfish ASS is two-timing you!!

BASTARD!
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I have to add something: Deidre Hall has almost NEVER looked as good as she does with Ed Scott's dark lighting.

Damn, keep this girl on the show, guys! She has earned it!
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ITA.

Dee looked f-ing awesome today.

Annnd, I was shocked by Santo. Lying ass.

Little Stefano was so cute tho!
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Great Monday. Tomorrow will be totally like a different soap...but I'm looking forward to it, too.

Frank Parker did an outstanding job today. We scarcely get to see him in a part worth watching. I just loved every move he made today.
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My poor Santo and Colleen. :(
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Sep 17 2007, 09:42 PM
So much happened today.

It was just like a 90's episode. Dark. Lots of running around town. I feel like the episodes are starting to have arcs, and so are the weeks.


I really think Ed Scott is doing wonders for Hoagie.

I watched yesterday's episode and I completely agree.

The lighting is SUPERB. Dark, gothic and dramatic as it should be. The scenes had a flow. The stories had layers and movement. Things were happening and POPPING. I loved it! It felt like an episode straight out of 1995.
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Kenny
Sep 18 2007, 06:41 AM
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Sep 17 2007, 09:42 PM
So much happened today.

It was just like a 90's episode. Dark. Lots of running around town. I feel like the episodes are starting to have arcs, and so are the weeks.


I really think Ed Scott is doing wonders for Hoagie.

I watched yesterday's episode and I completely agree.

The lighting is SUPERB. Dark, gothic and dramatic as it should be. The scenes had a flow. The stories had layers and movement. Things were happening and POPPING. I loved it! It felt like an episode straight out of 1995.

Today's US episode is even better ;)
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What am amazing day.

I loved the mention of Chelsea running over Zach. It is about time that we hear how she feels about it.

I even liked when Shawn brought up Bo's motorcycle accident. I have completely forgotten about it.

OMG, that smoldering look that Philip gave Belle when he asked if she was afraid to be alone with him. JKJ can give me that look any day. Now he has just come into Shawn's hospital room talking about Tyler. Oh Belle, what do you think you are doing. Don't go getting yourself into trouble Belle. Shawn is totally baiting Belle to see if she will really go with Philip.

I wanted to slap Jeremy when he was asking why Steve had to go off and stab Stefano. Uh, sorry Jeremy... What an idiot. I have to say that I think Shelly and Trevor are both improving. I loved their scenes when his angry abusive side came out and Stephanie was caught up in everything and couldn't come to terms w/what was going on.

I was shocked to see Caroline and Shawn so late into the show. It was great. Caroline's concern for her sons. OMB just spill it already.

Oh no, poor Pocket. Of course the DiMera’s would do something to Pocket Lexie wake up girl.

Wish we could see Justin and the kids since they are in Salem. Oh wait, it's not like we have seen Adrienne. (rolling my eyes)

Nick is teaching? I am really enjoying him with the boys. He is fabulous with them. Just get out of town China Lee.

Cripes! Roman's in the casket. (like I didn't see that one, but still it is going to be interesting)

Let's hope tomorrow is another good show. :cheers:
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And, although I did enjoy Shawn and Lexie's scenes. I was a little confused. Have these two ever interacted? Outside of the JT/Zach baby switch. I think it is great that the cast is involved with different things, I just found it od.
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