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ATWT General Discussion Thread; 10/8 - 10/12
Topic Started: Oct 8 2007, 12:28 PM (488 Views)
Mason	Oct 8 2007, 09:29 PM Post #21
Posts: 40,104 Group: Admin Member #291 Joined: August 26, 2007	Well I loved Margo giving Dusty the third degree for thinking he's above the law. It's about time somebody does.



Steve Frame	Oct 8 2007, 10:05 PM Post #22
Posts: 107 Group: Elite Member Member #121 Joined: July 2, 2007 Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera Law & Order (my favorite daytime show) Favorite Soap Opera of All Time Another World Favorite Current Primetime Soap Opera Nip/Tuck Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time Peyton Place Current Soap Rankings GIVEN UP SOAPS - SO NONE	Winterguy125 Oct 8 2007, 08:54 PM SteveFrame Oct 8 2007, 05:02 PM Winterguy125 Oct 8 2007, 04:55 PM SteveFrame Oct 8 2007, 04:24 PM The sad thing is that probably not on this board but you will see it on other boards. This will be heralded as one of the best shows ever on ATWT because of Luke/Noah. Sad. Wow! how offense is that comment <_< Clint, Why is it so offensive? I have always lived by the motto of calling a show bad when it was bad. And today's was bad, but I knew before I went to any boards what it was going to be. I find it funny that it is now offensive when it applies to Luke/Noah, but a few months ago some of these same fans (not you in particular that I remember anyway) were saying the same things to the Willen fans. ATWT would have some terrible terrible shows esp. during the last Gwen story but the Willen fans would say it was so good just because Willen was on or because Gwen was on. Well now many of the Nuke fans are doing the same damn thing, but get offended when the subject is brought up. Today was a bad show and I will call it that. Friday was so good with wonderful build up and then today was terrible and I am not afraid to call it that because it was. The direction was bad. The execution of the whole thing was bad. Just like the other poster pointed out you never even knew if Luke was shot or not. It was poorly done from every stand point and not just the writing. Yes the acting was good, but with ATWT the actors are always good. Sorry if it is offensive to you as a Nuke fan, but it is the truth. And notice that I did not say all Nuke fans would do it but some. And I have already seen it. For some Luke and Noah could be on reading the phone book and it would be a great show. Sorry about getting so defensive there, I guess I just took your comment the wrong way. I in no way have a problem with you or anyone telling it like is, as I do the same thing. I think the main reason why alot of Luke and Noah fans seem to like every show(though there have been some they have not liked at all) is because they are not on very much and they enjoy when they get the chance to see them, plus alot of people are just plain scared that PGP could end the storyline at any minute, so alot of them just take what they can get. From what I can tell today's show has been highly criticized by alot of Luke and Noah fans, sure some liked it, but I don't think alot of them thought it was great today, as like everyone has been saying it was a huge letdown, hell they could not even afford to show us Luke falling, it is pretty bad when they can't even afford a body double for a stunt. Again sorry I got so defensive. No prob Clint. I just hate looking around on the boards and seeing ATWT go this direction. From watching Days for 30 years and through the super couple era when this happens to a soap it is not good. TPTB get to thinking that can make these fan bases happy and they have it made. And they get into the habit that as long as the couple is in some kind of story whether it be good or bad that is all that matters. I just so hate to see this happen to ATWT.



P.J.	Oct 9 2007, 12:12 AM Post #23
Posts: 113 Group: Members Member #294 Joined: August 26, 2007	The sad thing is, it would take so little to make the viewers happy. (notice I said "viewers" and not "fan base X"). Situations that make sense, and emotions that ring true. So little...yet so complex for these idiots in charge to understand. The ONLY times I've related to the Nuke story, are the rare moments we've gotten at Luke or Noah's feelings about being accepted. This hooey with Winston is just a cheap way to move the action along. It's like JP can only write ONE story. X & Y are in love, but X won't admit it and turns to Z. The more Y tries to get X, the more X clings to Z. Is there really any difference between Paul/Meg/Craig, Carly/Jack/Katie, and Luke/Noah/Maddie? Paul/Meg/Craig and Carjack/Katie are virtually the same story! Ro and Brad are the also rans, Paul and Jack are using two women, Katie and Craig both are doing everything they can to be number 1 in Jack/Meg's hearts, and Carly and Meg are making bad decisions left and right.



Steve Frame	Oct 9 2007, 01:26 PM Post #24
Posts: 107 Group: Elite Member Member #121 Joined: July 2, 2007 Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera Law & Order (my favorite daytime show) Favorite Soap Opera of All Time Another World Favorite Current Primetime Soap Opera Nip/Tuck Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time Peyton Place Current Soap Rankings GIVEN UP SOAPS - SO NONE	:soapbox: This show makes me so damn mad the way it has a big moment (although poorly executed) like yesterday with Luke either getting shot or not getting shot and the next day there is nothing on it. What is going on behind the scenes these day? They are making so many bad decisions these days. What is wrong with the soaps these days. Are they all trying to run a contest to see who can do the dumbest thing and not get cancelled. :soapbox:



oakdalelover	Oct 9 2007, 01:34 PM Post #25
Posts: 1,134 Group: Elite Member Member #53 Joined: June 14, 2007	SteveFrame Oct 9 2007, 01:26 PM :soapbox: This show makes me so damn mad the way it has a big moment (although poorly executed) like yesterday with Luke either getting shot or not getting shot and the next day there is nothing on it. What is going on behind the scenes these day? They are making so many bad decisions these days. What is wrong with the soaps these days. Are they all trying to run a contest to see who can do the dumbest thing and not get cancelled. :soapbox: ITA Another thing is the switching back and forth from scene to scene. I would like longer scenes with more depth to them insteading of that. They must think the average fan has a short attention span or gets bored easily.



oakdalelover	Oct 11 2007, 11:32 AM Post #26
Posts: 1,134 Group: Elite Member Member #53 Joined: June 14, 2007	Yesterday's episode was OK for me. I enjoyed Carly yesterday. I am glad she is not dying. I know some have said they don't like the idea of her keeping it quiet and not telling anybody. I do think it is in her character to do it though. If the situation was reversed,Katie for sure would do it. Superhero Dusty saves the day for Luke. He came in to the hospital earlier after an ordeal of being shot and left to die. He recovered nicely. I would like to see Lily just go off on Holden.I guess Noah turning to the bottle is her fault too. I was reading another board and a poster said that Holden was comitting "emotional abuse" towards Lily. They suggested that Lily kick him out of "her" house and that he be sure that he leaves"her" checkbook behind. I'd like to see Lucinda stick her nose in to it and give Holden a piece of her mind.



Steve Frame	Oct 11 2007, 02:11 PM Post #27
Posts: 107 Group: Elite Member Member #121 Joined: July 2, 2007 Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera Law & Order (my favorite daytime show) Favorite Soap Opera of All Time Another World Favorite Current Primetime Soap Opera Nip/Tuck Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time Peyton Place Current Soap Rankings GIVEN UP SOAPS - SO NONE	Give JP credit for one thing. She sure can destroy a character and make you hate them. She is turning Holden into a character I don't know. Sure he has a right to be upset to a certain degree but JP always takes the things the core characters say in arguments to the ultimate degree of hurt. I can't believe so many times the things they have Jack say to Carly. And now Holden to Lily. It is totally ridiculous. Sure Lily and Carly make mistakes but it is no reason for Jack and Holden to turn into pompous sons-o-bitches. I have totally hated Holden in this and I should feel a little sorry for him that his wife has made mistakes that have hurt him. But I don't. It goes back to what PJ said last week - all this reminds me exactly as she said that JP just keeps writing the same story for each couple. The way Holden is acting it is so apparent. This time I bet anything Lily will turn to Dusty (like Carly did to the Aussie) and then Holden will move on with some other little tramp in town. Could he be the one who is there to pick up Katie's broken heart. LOL On the Luke/Noah front, I am still very disappointed in this new development but appreciate the drama it is causing - even though it is a very poor writing choice. It does answer one question I had or thought I had. I wondered what they would do to keep Luke and Noah out of bed with one another. Men naturally move to sex quicker than your typical heterosexual couple. I know that overall they are getting good feedback over the relationship but sex is a big step that the network is probably still antsy about. By making Luke not function below the waste they don't have to worry about it for awhile.



P.J.	Oct 12 2007, 12:01 AM Post #28
Posts: 113 Group: Members Member #294 Joined: August 26, 2007	^^^anything that gets that little TWIT away from Jack would be a relief. But with my luck, Holden and Carly will get drunk one night.... :o



oakdalelover	Oct 12 2007, 01:19 PM Post #29
Posts: 1,134 Group: Elite Member Member #53 Joined: June 14, 2007	"He's a Snyder darling. They are always holier then thou!" Lucinda said that to Lily today when they were discussing Lily's troubles with Holden. Leave it to Lucinda to put things in to prospective :D ! I am hoping before the show is over that she rips in to her son in law!



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