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| Days:Spoilers & Previews; week of 12/17 *updated 12/11* | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 4 2007, 11:06 PM (6,629 Views) | |
| Mason | Dec 5 2007, 03:39 AM Post #21 |
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The balance could still use some work, I'll admit, but overall, I think it's greatly improved since the summer, and especially the spring. |
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| Kevc1980 | Dec 5 2007, 04:38 AM Post #22 |
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The balance is improving a bit..We are finally seeing more of Bo, Hope, Marlena, and Kate...but i would still like to see many things change.. - less Sami, Lucas, and EJ (no more than 3 days a week) - a big storyline for Steve and Kayla (Steve searching for clues to his missing years) - a romance for Billie (Julie Pinson is too good to be so underused) - airtime for Victor, Abe, Maggie - a Tony, Anna, Roman, Kate quad.. |
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| Sindacco | Dec 5 2007, 05:07 AM Post #23 |
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What about the absence of Victor Kiriakis? One of the best villains ever! He's only been on for eight fucking episodes this year, EIGHT! |
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| ☼ Jinx ☼ | Dec 5 2007, 10:17 AM Post #24 |
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Live. Love. Laugh. ♥
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Sorry, I just don't care much for Victor. I got sick of him over the year, when we saw him on pretty much everyday! Right now, I fail to even remember that Victor isn't around. |
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| Sindacco | Dec 5 2007, 10:20 AM Post #25 |
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I understand that not everyone like him (but I dont understand why, hehe) but he has been on the show for much longer then Nick and he deserves to be on more then characters like Nick and all the other younger ones. I see other Days-fans complain about J&M and other vets to not beeing on alot, but Victor is the vet that's been on the least after Alice. |
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| ☼ Jinx ☼ | Dec 5 2007, 10:22 AM Post #26 |
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Live. Love. Laugh. ♥
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Speaking for myself, I considered Victor to match up to other vets like J&M, Bo and Hope, J&J (even though their gone) etc. |
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| PhoenixRising05 | Dec 5 2007, 02:19 PM Post #27 |
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Good to hear LeAnn will be on Christmas. That means Thaoo should be there too. I don't see Tony and Anna leaving...yet. I think the Europe thing is just the way they are going to keep them offscreen for a bit...probably until Christmas. I still think they are stalling until they know what Thaoo is going to do when his contract is up in May or until he gives them an inclination of what he may do. I don't see Tony and Anna leaving until the Brady/Dimera story comes to a final end, which it sounds like it may in early 2008. Tom Casiello said in his blog message on the strike that before he left there was something written where all the Brady's and Dimera's were individually on their way to one place for something big and I think we will see Tony and Anna involved in that, at least in a minor fashion. I still think Hogan likes them because, otherwise, Hogan would've never went back and salvaged Tony and would've just let him and Anna fade off immediately and he hasn't. He's kept them around and the show has kept them around and hinted at possible story so that tells me they are just waiting to see what Thaoo does since he has other things coming up, as stupid as it sounds. Whatever the case, I am sure the fans are the big reason why Kristen Renton got a contract so my hope is that fans will continue to push for more Tony and Anna and a contract for LeAnn. I also hope fans push against the Max/Stephanie pairing. I know Days doesn't always listen but you never know what may happen with Ed there. It may get his and Hogan's attention, especially since we know they all read message boards. |
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| DrewHamilton | Dec 5 2007, 02:42 PM Post #28 |
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I'm not buying the excuse that Hogan and company are waiting for Thaao to decide what he wants to do. They have until May. Do something with the character until May, and come May, if he decides to leave, write him off and keep Leanne Hunley as Anna. Fans have warmed up to her so quickly. She actually has chemistry with Josh Taylor, and has great rivalry chemistry with Lauren Koslow. So to me, it just doesn't make sense that they are choosing not to write for Tony and Anna, just because Thaao may leave. The show doesn't need Tony to write Anna. People keep saying that they want to see the show write characters, not couples. Then while Thaao is off doing all of the extracuricular activities that he does outside of DAYS, give Anna something to do. But to say that the writers aren't doing anything with Tony and Anna because Thaao may leave in May, that doesn't make sense. I think the real thing is that Hogan isn't your tyipcal DAYS writer. He only writes 2 or 3 storylines that involve a large amount of the cast, and the characters come and go throughout the storyline. When Hogan needs Victor, he uses Victor. When Hogan needs Maggie, Doug and Julie, he uses them. When Hogan needs Tony, Anna, Abe and Lexie (not so anymore), he'll use them. That's just how he writes. In the past, DAYS writers dished out 5 or 6 storylines, where a lot of the cast had their own storyline. Unforunately, a lot of those writers had a problem with isolating stories and not intertwining them. And that upset fans, but at least characters were shown in their own storyline. We're not going to have that with Hogan, and I think that is the real reason why we are not seeing Victor, Maggie, Doug, Julie, Tony, Anna, Abe, etc. When he needs them, we'll see them. He obviously doesn't need them right now, so he's not using them. |
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| Kevc1980 | Dec 5 2007, 02:51 PM Post #29 |
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Drew that was an excellent post and so obviously true..I never really looked at it that way...Phoenix i agree with many of you opinions but sometimes you try to hard to make up excuses...Hogan has barely used Tony and Anna since August, and May is still a long time away..He could easily write a big story for them during the meantime....We've seen with Jack/Jennifer and Carrie/Austin just how easy it is to write out a couple at the last minute.. |
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| DrewHamilton | Dec 5 2007, 02:58 PM Post #30 |
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And Tim, that is not an attack on you, personally. But you do seem to try very hard to make up excuses, and I just don't see the need. I understand that you are a big fan of Hogan's. I am as well. However, I'm not going to continue to pull excuses out of wherever, just for the sake of defending the man. When he pisses me off, I'll let it known. When he's doing a bad job, I'll let it known. |
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| ArizonaDaze | Dec 5 2007, 03:04 PM Post #31 |
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I, too, would like to see a lot of these ideas Kev, especially getting to the bottom of Steve's past. That is one story that shouldn't be dropped. I still want to know how the Dimeras got him away from Lawrence Alamain. Also, we can speculate all we want to as to why this character or that character is written for and some of our favs are not, but all it will do is make us crazy. |
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| Kenny | Dec 5 2007, 03:07 PM Post #32 |
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Absolutely. Kristian Alfonso could leave when her contract is up, whenever that is. Does it mean the writers should just stop writing for Hope now, just incase? Same goes for any other actor on the show. While you've got 'em, use 'em when you can. Of course, "when you can" is the dilemma. That's like saying that Days may be cancelled in 2009, so why not just stop writing it now, just incase? Doesn't make one droplet of sense. It's a bad excuse, IMO. It's respectable to say that Hogan doesn't have anything to write for Thaao right now. Days has a large canvas, they can't possibly all be frontburner at once, and that's understandable. There's no need in making flimsy excuses for 'em. Just give a decent amount of balance, and I'm happy. |
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| PhoenixRising05 | Dec 5 2007, 03:14 PM Post #33 |
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I am trying hard not to let loose here because my post was not an excuse and I am getting sick and tired of every one of my posts being looked at that way. Just because I like to play devil's advocate and not immediately blame the show and TPTB for things doesn't mean I am pulling excuses out my ass. I don't have enough time in my day to do that and it's not like I care whether anyone agrees with me or not. I post what I feel and, sometimes, what I know. If people don't agree or like it, tough. I always post in a respectful manner unless things get heated but I am getting sick of my opinions being looked at as excuses. It's more like being in the minority and not tearing apart every thing the show does. My post was just looking at the other side of the issue rather them simply saying it's Hogan or Ed's or whoever's fault...but, as usual, the first conclusion anyone can come up with is me making excuses. If people view it as excuses, fine. I don't care anymore but it's not going to stop me from posting what I want to. Thaoo said in his messages early on when he started he had a project coming with Sheri in 2008 and that he didn't know what would happen when the contract is up. If the show went ahead and did a story and then he left, you would have the usual nitpicking fans who would be upset that the show tied up everything to quick and there is no way that LeAnn Hunley is staying on this show without Thaoo. It's wrong but fans see them as a couple, just like Steve and Kayla. That is not my opinion but fans want them together after all these years. They would not want a triangle. If LeAnn had never come back, I think a Tony/Kate pairing would be accepted but not now. Thaoo is probably the reason why LeAnn even has a recurring role. I think he lobbied hard to get her back. I can't blame the writers. Why bother writing for someone if you have reason to believe they are leaving? If that is the case, they are probably keeping them around to finish out the Brady/Dimera story and, like you said Drew, Hogan seems to only like focusing on a few main stories at a time, which is part of his problem. Given that fact, he isn't going to write an individual Tony/Anna story until this feud story is over since he seems to like putting all his eggs in one basket. |
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| maconrich | Dec 5 2007, 03:19 PM Post #34 |
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I tend to agree with you and this style of writing is what I remember from the 80s. It worked then and I think it still could - as long as the writing is good, vets are used in meaningful ways and there's balance. With these spoilers I'm wondering if the 2009 deadline is promoting Days to destroy the DiMera's once and for all. I know I'm *not* liking the idea of that, and while Stefano is, for the first time ever, making me nervous, I still love this family and what they add to the show (now that they are being written more true to history that is). |
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| DrewHamilton | Dec 5 2007, 03:28 PM Post #35 |
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Tim, stop taking things so personally. No one is looking at your opinions as excuses. What I see here was an excuse and that is why I commented on it. I am not looking down on your for your opinions. You said something, something that you've been saying several times everytime the topic comes up, and I commented on my disagreeing. You say you were just playing devil's advocate. Maybe you were. If that's the case, then you really shouldn't get upset when someone disagrees with what you say. Are you playing devil's advocate or are these your true opinions? Because if these are your true opinions, then you should continue to defend them. But if you're playing devil's advocte, there's no reason to get upset or "let loose" as you said. But Kenny is right when he used Kristian Alfonso as an example. He also was correct in using DAYS' speculated time on the air as an example. It's the same thing as what is apparently going on with Thaao. You use the man until you can. Thaao posts on his blog several times talking about how the show has not been giving much for Tony and Anna to do, and that gives him time to do other projects. Did you ever think that maybe if DAYS gave the two something to do, then Thaao would agree to be more on the set rather than doing these outside projects? I think what is happening in this situation is that the show doesn't have anything for Tony and Anna. They don't have anything concrete for the two, other than using them when needed in the feud storyline. When Andre was alive, Hogan wrote for Thaao, and Thaao was there to be written for. Andre was needed a big deal in the beginning of the feud storyline, and Thaao saw much airtime. Now, Andre is dead. Tony isn't essential to the storyline as Andre was, and Thaao doesn't get anything. In Leann's case, I do believe she is only here because of Thaao. Thaao probably talked to Hogan in the meetings before he returned and talked about great idea and opportunity to bring Anna back to the show and reunite with Tony. But with the fan approval and great-taking to Anna, you would think that the writers would think to capitalize on that and start using her. She has ties to the Bradys and the DiMeras. Use her! |
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| PhoenixRising05 | Dec 5 2007, 03:40 PM Post #36 |
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Drew, 99% of the time I state my opinions. Sometimes I will just put out the other side of the issue just to present the fact that something might not be what it is on the surface. In this case, I am doing a bit of both because Thaoo mentioned back in May the project he had coming with Sheri Anderson in 2008. That was planned before he even started taping but he also said alot would depend on the writing and story. I do think they don't have much for him or Anna and I have to wonder if maybe Thaoo convincing them to bring LeAnn actually may have hurt his story possibilities with the writers. However, I do think alot of it has to do with them not wanting commit a big story to someone that may or may not be around. They may know something or may not. I don't know either way. I just think the chance is there that this may be the case and I can see why they wouldn't use them if that was the case. I agree that if you have someone you use them but, in this case, they don't need Tony and Anna. They're not like Kristian, who is very important to the show. They are expendable so rather then go forward with a story and have to tie it up quick, they are waiting to see what happens. Another side of this is they may get a story once this is all over since Hogan just can't seem to focus on that many stories or, this could be a case of Hogan originally only wanted Thaoo to play Andre or crazy Tony and was convinced by Thaoo to salvage the character and bring Anna back. That may be why they are not seen now since Hogan never intended on having those characters. I didn't mean to lash out at you, personally. I just get accused of making excuses often and that is never the case and I do apologize for taking it out on some of you in this thread. It's just hard not to take something like this personally when it seems like people are reducing your views all the time to excuses and I know it often times looks like that is what I'm doing but that is not the case. I don't make excuses. It's not like I am friend of Hogan's or something. I like the guy but that doesn't mean I am trying to be his fan club president. I just think he takes more criticism then he deserves, given the circumstances, and I also always recognize that more happens behind the scenes then we see on the surface. I post what I feel and I just hope that people will begin to see me as not making excuses but, rather, as offering an opinion that may be in the minority or may, in some cases, be playing devil's advocate. We'll see what happens. Hopefully, Thaoo will stay and fans will keep pushing for them to remain and get ample story. |
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| Dawn7 | Dec 5 2007, 03:52 PM Post #37 |
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Thanks Angie :wine: |
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| Angie79 | Dec 5 2007, 03:53 PM Post #38 |
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Daily spoilers Monday, December 17th Kate warns Lucas that E.J. has his package; Lucas admits he was at the church but says he did not shoot E.J.; Stephanie and the sorority sisters comfort Cordy; Billie arrives, looking for Ford; Max tries to advise Nick; Nick dares Max. Tuesday, December 18th Stephanie finds Cordy hiding in the ladies' room at Chez Rouge; Morgan offers Max an early Christmas gift; Kayla wants to have a baby; Steve makes Kayla promise to have a complete physical; Sami tells Marlena that she admitted having feelings for E.J. |
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| Red Mist | Dec 5 2007, 03:57 PM Post #39 |
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Thanks Angie! :hail: I can not wait for Marlooney and her daughter's little heart to heart...drama drama drama! :lol: |
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| Sindacco | Dec 5 2007, 04:34 PM Post #40 |
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That's one of the reasons I hate him. He sucks :soapbox: |
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