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DAYS: Weekly Discussion...; Week of May 12!
Topic Started: May 12 2008, 02:59 PM (6,451 Views)
darraholic
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PhoenixRising05
May 12 2008, 10:37 PM
Wow...many are going to be shocked by this post because of me always being positive and all but...

This show sucked.


Wait until tomorrow....

I FF pretty much the entire show.
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PhoenixRising05
May 12 2008, 10:37 PM
Wow...many are going to be shocked by this post because of me always being positive and all but...

This show sucked.

It wasn't because of the flashbacks because, truthfully, I couldn't care less unless it reaches JER levels (and, keep in mind, I have seen tomorrow's show and it doesn't bother me although it's a bit distracting). Meaning, I don't want to see flashback sequences like tomorrow's every day or consistently for a month or something.

I have been one of the few that seems to enjoy the Chelsea/Daniel story and, while I still think they are no long-term coupling and that this will lead to something ugly (I see it as more about getting caught up in the emotions of it all with Daniel's past, his saving Bo and Chelsea, etc) but today was the first time I felt the whole thing was forced. For one, it was repetitive and, two, Chelsea came off awful. She just learned about his wife and here she is pushing. Yeah, ok. SC and RM weren't even enough to save this mess today, although SC did his best to keep playing the conflict. I'm still into the story but today was not a good day

Enjoyed seeing more of Nicole's vulnerability with EJ. Nice talk they had. Also liked Sami's meltdown and talk with Caroline and EJ's talk with her as well. I like that they are playing the conflict here. Rolf and Sami was interesting and refreshing. I like how they are getting Rolf out of the scientist thing and taking him in a more realistic direction. He's fun.

Philip was great and I liked Chloe for the first time in months today. She had that edge back. Loved how she ripped Philip's shirt off again (she has a thing for that) and loved Nicole's reaction to it all. My only problem with Chloe is that there really isn't anyone for her to interact with other then Philip, Victor, and Nicole. By getting rid of Shawn and Belle, she has no one else to interact with on a consistent basis. I think that is why she has felt out of place of late. I did enjoy her scenes today though and it was also nice seeing Henderson as well.

Today was below average at best. Not very exciting. The Chelsea/Daniel stuff brought the show down. The Steve/Kayla stuff can't come soon enough for me. Tomorrow is much better, thank God, and I think a break from Chelsea/Daniel tomorrow is refreshing. The rest of the week is looking much better as well.

OK, now when Phoenix says a show sucks, it sounds like I will either be using FF a lot, or will just watch my OLTL recording and let my faux-Tivo delete Days.
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Tripp
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For one, it was repetitive and, two, Chelsea came off awful. She just learned about his wife and here she is pushing. Yeah, ok. SC and RM weren't even enough to save this mess today, although SC did his best to keep playing the conflict. I'm still into the story but today was not a good day


You mean if you were interested in a guy who you just found out lost his wife to a disease so many years ago (that you were probably a toddler at the time) and hasn't moved on since then, you wouldn't immediately chase him down at the local gym, lock yourself into the steam room with him and demand he love you in spite of whatever he says he feels?

Hee.
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Tripp
May 13 2008, 01:30 PM
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For one, it was repetitive and, two, Chelsea came off awful. She just learned about his wife and here she is pushing. Yeah, ok. SC and RM weren't even enough to save this mess today, although SC did his best to keep playing the conflict. I'm still into the story but today was not a good day


You mean if you were interested in a guy who you just found out lost his wife to a disease so many years ago (that you were probably a toddler at the time) and hasn't moved on since then, you wouldn't immediately chase him down at the local gym, lock yourself into the steam room with him and demand he love you in spite of whatever he says he feels?

Hee.

According to Prevuze, tomorrow sounds even worse. She pretty well asks Kate how to make a guy love you, or admit that he loves you. Uh, Chelsea, Daniel is what? 40 years old? He's a grown boy and can handle this. If he can't, you don't want him anyway. But, just another sign that, even if Chelsea is supposedly 21, she acts more like 15.
And boo to Marlena for telling Daniel to follow his heart or such rot. HOW can these two even consider that they love each other when the way in which they met was so stress-inducing, and the rest of their relationship consists of Chelsea healing, then denying,kissing, denying, kissing..........
DAMN! Why did they have to make Nick a rude boob? Poor guy is going to have tire tracks from getting run over by both the Max bus and the Daniel bus.
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ladyofthelake
May 13 2008, 03:04 PM
And boo to Marlena for telling Daniel to follow his heart or such rot.

She has no clue that he's talking about Chelsea. I'm sure if she knew, she'd be repulsed as some of us are. That being said, I hate that she's being written as having to (albeit blindly) pimp that sick relationship.
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Tripp
May 13 2008, 01:30 PM
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For one, it was repetitive and, two, Chelsea came off awful. She just learned about his wife and here she is pushing. Yeah, ok. SC and RM weren't even enough to save this mess today, although SC did his best to keep playing the conflict. I'm still into the story but today was not a good day


You mean if you were interested in a guy who you just found out lost his wife to a disease so many years ago (that you were probably a toddler at the time) and hasn't moved on since then, you wouldn't immediately chase him down at the local gym, lock yourself into the steam room with him and demand he love you in spite of whatever he says he feels?

Hee.

I personally thought Chelsea's plan was brilliant!;) Works every time!

Do we know when there will be less Chan/Dansea/WTH they are called? My fingers are getting tired from all the ff I have done lately.
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ladyofthelake
May 13 2008, 02:04 PM
And boo to Marlena for telling Daniel to follow his heart or such rot.

Marlena also told Billie to follow her heart and go after Steve. She gives people terrible advice.
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Mason


DAYS bored me even more today than it did yesterday!
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PhoenixRising05
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May 13 2008, 12:54 AM
Mason
May 13 2008, 01:46 AM
Kenny
May 13 2008, 12:43 AM
God, this show is boring as shit.

I keep reading posts saying stuff to the effect of "this is the REAL DAYS!" or "this is how DAYS should have been all along!", and I just have to think to myself, 'DAYS is supposed to be as dull as watching paint dry?' :huh:

Go figure...

Yeah, it's pretty peculiar. This doesn't feel like Days to me at all.

I wonder why the show is constantly changing its identity? It keeps going through these weird eras, and as a result, the show is just a mess without a real identity. If you look back at the show from the past 10 years, there are many periods where it just feels like an entirely different show altogether. There's never a steady identity that defines the show overall from headwriter to headwriter. Each writer comes on and tries to mold it into something different. As a result, I think many viewers feel lost and disconnected.

Y&R got to #1 by mastering the ability to keep its identity intact through all of its eras. They stuck with what worked, and didn't change it every whipstich on the whim of some random new writer. Days should learn how to do that.

They constantly change their identity because there is just too much fan division. Some fans want character-driven and some find that boring. Some fans like plot-driven and camp and some hate it. Some fans want a little of both. Some fans want all supercouples and romance all the time. Some don't. Then you have general fans that just want good drama and then some general fans that just want to be entertained and could care less who is on or whatever.

Everytime the ratings drop, Corday and co end up changing direction during their next "Save Days" plan and that is because the fans are too divided. Just look at what happened with Hogan. Regardless of Corday's interference, some still didn't care for what was given while some appreciated it. Same goes for what Higley is doing. You go to some boards and they are loving it or enjoying it more then Hogan. Everyone is different and, just is the case with any show, with every writer only about 50% of the audience if your lucky is going to be happy. Hell, it's worse with Days. It's more like 25% or less. The problem is you can't change what fans want and that has been Days' biggest dilemma since JER's first stint. Every writer came in and presented something different and JER's first stint had changed Days so much it created a major schism. You had fans wanted camp, gothic tones, etc and then you had fans who wanted a return to the 80's/early 90's. Toss in the other fan groups I listed above and you have a mess.

Days can't please them all and I think that is the problem. They have spent the last ten years trying to please too many of these groups. They just need to perfect a direction they feel is best and go with it, regardless if it pisses some off or not. I feel Hogan's would've been the best (B&C's too) because it appealed to general audiences and I think there is more upside there. I almost feel like they rely on fan input, particularly fanbases, why too much. I think that played a big role in the Lumi/Ejami debacle of last year. That story changed direction so many times it made you wonder if it ebbed and flowed according to the fan mail and reactions.

Now, about today, the flashbacks were annoying but I had seen this episode online yesterday and thought it was much better then yesterday. I enjoyed the Ava stuff and the Nick/Max/Stephanie stuff. I am happy with the direction Ava is going in and hope they keep her around. I actually like Angelo too and I loved the stuff with Sami and Roman and also with Bo and Roman at the cop shop. Steve playing the harmonica was a pleasant surprise and a nice tie to history and the end with the gun aimed on him and Bo and Roman coming to his rescue was a good cliffhanger.

Hope/Kayla was cute too and loved the moment of tension with Ava. Steve and EJ's meeting was also intriguing. Wonder where that is going and I like that they acknowledged their past history.

With the exception of the flashbacks, today was good. About the flashbacks, I don't consider them a Higley trademark. I also haven't seen that many fakeouts. I think we've only had one or two, which is ok IMO. They add some suspense as long as not overused. For some reason, I still have much of Higley's 1st stint on tape (no idea why) and I watched some of it when it was announced she was returning and there weren't that many fakeouts or flashbacks at all. That's a JER thing. There were fantasies at times but I often find those fun and I think fans of camp do too.

I watched bits of tomorrow already and the week seems to be getting better as we go, which is good. Today was an improvement and tomorrow is even better IMO.

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When does Kayla start to go into labor? is that the end of today, tomorrow, or wednesday?
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May 13 2008, 06:01 PM
When does Kayla start to go into labor? is that the end of today, tomorrow, or wednesday?

I think it was at the end of today's, but then, I wasn't paying very close attention so I could be wrong, LoL.
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Kevc1980
May 13 2008, 06:01 PM
When does Kayla start to go into labor? is that the end of today, tomorrow, or wednesday?

Tomorrow.
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It's sad how everyone is complaining about DAYS. I think Dena's rocking it. I love the show. Today was a little slow, but I loved yesterday and tomorrow looks good. This is the Days that I love!
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Mason


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May 13 2008, 07:16 PM
It's sad how everyone is complaining about DAYS. I think Dena's rocking it. I love the show.

Now you know how everyone who liked Hogan's DAYS felt when everyone who was complaining then was complaining.
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^ Good point. :)
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Mason
May 13 2008, 07:18 PM
psychofan
May 13 2008, 07:16 PM
It's sad how everyone is complaining about DAYS.  I think Dena's rocking it.  I love the show.

Now you know how everyone who liked Hogan's DAYS felt when everyone who was complaining then was complaining.

An extremely good point. And likewise for you. But I can't help but wonder if some people are choosing to see the bad. With Hogan, there were always excuses made for him. Now, Higley's just a "Bitch" as so many people (who don't even know her) like to call her.
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Tueday's show was just so boring, nothing exciting happens in Salem anymore. Although it does seem like the rest of the week gets a lot better. Monday was just as boring and bad.
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Higley's writing is boring and inconsistent. That's all that I can say. To me, I'm a fan of the day-to-day stuff, not the actual long-term storyline. I think that's why I liked Hogan and his team. Higley's team is below par and it just makes the whole show dull to me.
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DrewHamilton
May 13 2008, 08:11 PM
Higley's writing is boring and inconsistent. That's all that I can say. To me, I'm a fan of the day-to-day stuff, not the actual long-term storyline. I think that's why I liked Hogan and his team. Higley's team is below par and it just makes the whole show dull to me.

ITA on the inconsistent writing. Sometimes I feel like I can see where a different writer is picking up the story.

And the dialogue is just bad. If I hear "hot" used to describe a good looking person one more time I'm going to scream.

I guess that's why I could enjoy Hogan versus Higley or JER. With Hogan, even if his overall stories were dragging or didn't make much sense, the day to day stuff was fairly good, with good conversations and humor driven in. With Higley or JER, there isn't anything there in one given episode that drives me to pay attention. I think the difference is when Hogan had to stretch a story he would use filler scenes or mini plots (such as Philip and EJ breaking into Bope's house) while Higley just repeats the same conversations over and over. How many days did we see Steve, Ava and Hope ahve the same conversation? In fact while Bo was "dying" we had the same conversation between him and Hope. Now we are getting the same conversation with Chan.
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Tripp
May 13 2008, 09:22 PM
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May 13 2008, 08:11 PM
Higley's writing is boring and inconsistent. That's all that I can say. To me, I'm a fan of the day-to-day stuff, not the actual long-term storyline. I think that's why I liked Hogan and his team. Higley's team is below par and it just makes the whole show dull to me.

I think the difference is when Hogan had to stretch a story he would use filler scenes or mini plots (such as Philip and EJ breaking into Bope's house) while Higley just repeats the same conversations over and over.

That's a great point, Tripp. I'd much rather take three episode "mini-arcs" then repeated conversations and flashbacks.

Granted, the "mini-arcs" were not always that good - but at least there was something different on the screen to fill the gaps.

Although with the strongest writers, NOTHING feels like filler. But that's a whole other thread. :lol:
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