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DAYS: Weekly Discussion...; Week of May 12!
Topic Started: May 12 2008, 02:59 PM (6,450 Views)
ladyofthelake
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Ellie
May 13 2008, 03:14 PM
ladyofthelake
May 13 2008, 03:04 PM
And boo to Marlena for telling Daniel to follow his heart or such rot.

She has no clue that he's talking about Chelsea. I'm sure if she knew, she'd be repulsed as some of us are. That being said, I hate that she's being written as having to (albeit blindly) pimp that sick relationship.

My problem with Marlena is, she was written to say the same thing to her daugher belle when Shawn was married to someone else.
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heartsong
May 13 2008, 05:05 PM
ladyofthelake
May 13 2008, 02:04 PM
And boo to Marlena for telling Daniel to follow his heart or such rot.

Marlena also told Billie to follow her heart and go after Steve. She gives people terrible advice.

:hail: :hail:
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☼ Jinx ☼
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This episode and the next are lame!!

The only component that even remotely interested me was Nick and his grant. I think I know what Max is up to, and I'm waiting to find out if its really the case. My theory is, for some reason he isn't revealing to everyone that he is bright and he is helping Nick with his project behind the scenes.

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psychofan
May 13 2008, 07:45 PM
Mason
May 13 2008, 07:18 PM
psychofan
May 13 2008, 07:16 PM
It's sad how everyone is complaining about DAYS.  I think Dena's rocking it.  I love the show.

Now you know how everyone who liked Hogan's DAYS felt when everyone who was complaining then was complaining.

An extremely good point. And likewise for you. But I can't help but wonder if some people are choosing to see the bad. With Hogan, there were always excuses made for him. Now, Higley's just a "Bitch" as so many people (who don't even know her) like to call her.

Because higley already had a bad history, first with Days, then with the famous calling out and bashing at OLTL. Sheffer came to Days with a pretty good reputation originally.
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annalee003
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I maybe in the minority but I am really enjoying the show. Much better than this time last year.
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I liked part of the show today. I liked Nick's grant storyline and I sort of liked the Steve knowing he was being followed and teasing the shooter by hiding behind that column and sticking his head out once and awhile.
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heartsong
May 13 2008, 05:05 PM
ladyofthelake
May 13 2008, 02:04 PM
And boo to Marlena for telling Daniel to follow his heart or such rot.

Marlena also told Billie to follow her heart and go after Steve. She gives people terrible advice.

How is it bad advice to tell someone to follow their heart? She is a psychiatrist... she can't be blinded or swayed by the fact that she knows the parties involved. She has to give them the same advice that she would give any stranger. People often seem to come to her to ask if they are making the right decision about something, that is why I believe she tells people to follow their hearts, because in their HEARTS they know the right thing to do in a given situation. JMO ;)

That being said...

I HATE the way Marlena is being written! Whoever is doing the writing for her needs to make up their FUCKING MIND! Marlena is a complete wishy washy HOT MESS... at least in regards to John! She changes her mind every ten seconds regarding how she feels about him. "I am very disappointed in you John" next second "I love you John" next second "I don't know how I feel about you" next second "I love you John" next second "That man is not MY husband" next second "I Love you John".

MAKE UP YOUR MIND PLEASE! :drunk:
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Mason


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May 14 2008, 12:11 AM
That being said...

I HATE the way Marlena is being written! Whoever is doing the writing for her needs to make up their FUCKING MIND! Marlena is a complete wishy washy HOT MESS... at least in regards to John! She changes her mind every ten seconds regarding how she feels about him. "I am very disappointed in you John" next second "I love you John" next second "I don't know how I feel about you" next second "I love you John" next second "That man is not MY husband" next second "I Love you John" MAKE UP YOUR MIND PLEASE! :drunk:

OMG I love you! LoL!

I had been thinking the same thing for weeks now, but I could never find the right way to put it, but that's IT! LoL
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^She changes her mind depending on what John does. For instance, when John saw right through Nicole, she praised him and when he was working on illegal things with Paul, she was pissed. John isn't sure of who he is. He admitted that. He is kind of making it up as he goes along and that is what Marlena is reacting too. I think it makes perfect sense for both of them.
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May 14 2008, 12:13 AM
^She changes her mind depending on what John does. For instance, when John saw right through Nicole, she praised him and when he was working on illegal things with Paul, she was pissed. John isn't sure of who he is. He admitted that. He is kind of making it up as he goes along and that is what Marlena is reacting too. I think it makes perfect sense for both of them.

I get that aspect of it... I really do. But if you love someone you LOVE them. You can't keep flipping the script because they do something that you don't like. How is John supposed to believe that she loves him if she changes her mind every two seconds?
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Tammy
May 14 2008, 12:17 AM
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May 14 2008, 12:13 AM
^She changes her mind depending on what John does.  For instance, when John saw right through Nicole, she praised him and when he was working on illegal things with Paul, she was pissed.  John isn't sure of who he is.  He admitted that.  He is kind of making it up as he goes along and that is what Marlena is reacting too.  I think it makes perfect sense for both of them.

I get that aspect of it... I really do. But if you love someone you LOVE them. You can't keep flipping the script because they do something that you don't like. How is John supposed to believe that she loves him if she changes her mind every two seconds?

I don't think she knows if she loves him. I think she is just as confused as he is. She still longs for the "old" John. She came back saying she wanted him and wanted to accept him for who he was but I don't buy that. I think she wanted to on the surface but I think in a way it was her way of opening the lines of communication and I also think she got renewed hope when he had that mini-breakthrough while at the police station and seeing Roman's name around. I think that brought the "I want my John" feeling right back out of her and made it more explicit again.

She seems to only love him when he acts or shows signs of the "old" John like what he did to Nicole or during the plant crash when he saved everyone so she's not changing her mind every two seconds. She just isn't sure about anything. She's conflicted, much like he is. He doesn't know who to be. All he knows is that he enjoys power, mostly because he is able to get revenge against Stefano in some way. Marlena is the only solid thing he can count on too in addition to the power. She's been there and he likes her and I think that is a source of conflict too. He wants her and the power and has yet to understand the power and way he is obtaining it pushes her a way. He just doesn't "get" alot of things yet and she hasn't fully grasped her feelings for him because of the "old" John component. This is not the same someone she loved. She's not in love with this man yet. She likes him, unless he is committing criminal acts or doing something John wouldn't do, but she she is not in love with "this" John. She only seems to "love" him when he acts similar or like the "old" John.
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bringing john back was the worst thing to ever happen for marlena, imho.. yes worse then being posessed.

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May 14 2008, 01:35 AM
bringing john back was the worst thing to ever happen for marlena, imho.. yes worse then being posessed.

I agree, actually (although I floved the possession, LoL!). I hated John being killed off, but damn if it didn't make Marlena the most interesting she'd ever been.
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I just decided to delete todays show, i'll watch tomorrow for Ross the interns scenes...Dena really needs to step things up, i'm bored with her stories..
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Kevc1980
May 14 2008, 02:38 AM
I just decided to delete todays show

Trust me, you didn't miss anything.
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Mason
May 13 2008, 11:35 PM
JackPeyton
May 14 2008, 01:35 AM
bringing john back was the worst thing to ever happen for marlena, imho.. yes worse then being posessed.

I agree, actually (although I floved the possession, LoL!). I hated John being killed off, but damn if it didn't make Marlena the most interesting she'd ever been.

The problem is there is no Marlena. There is a John&Marlena. Hell, there is a John. There is Belle & Sami's mom (sometimes). But there is no Marlena.

once they killed John off... It was like Marlena woke up and became this amazing char again.. but was quickly put back on the back burner then john cameback and like evrything ekse on this show it then became pointless.
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Kevc1980
May 14 2008, 02:38 AM
I just decided to delete todays show, i'll watch tomorrow for Ross the interns scenes...Dena really needs to step things up, i'm bored with her stories..

I'm actually kind of shocked you and many others didn't at least like the Hope/Kayla stuff and Steve stuff at the end. That was a pretty good cliffhanger and the harmonica and way that Steve knew what was going on and kept trying to avert the shooter was classic Steve.

As opposed to Monday, yesterday had lots of story movement. It set the stage for Lucas, built up to the Kayla going into labor stuff, and built up the end of Martino while also finally progressing the Nick/Max grant story. Alot of things on the show are clearly in setup mode but I thought yesterday was a drastic improvement over Monday's and I think some overinflated the affect of the flashbacks on the show yesterday. It was annoying but it wasn't that bad IMO.
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May 14 2008, 01:35 AM
bringing john back was the worst thing to ever happen for marlena, imho.. yes worse then being posessed.

I agree in a way. I'm still upset they reversed John's death because, judging by what I have read on Goldderby, it cost her and Martha and the show Emmy nods and I think they could've waited much longer to bring him back. I feel cheated because they didn't delve into Marlena without John that much but Corday had to go fuck that up by getting rid of Hogan.

However, I do enjoy this version of John and J&M are the most interesting they have been in years so I guess I will take it. :lol:
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☼ Jinx ☼
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Marlena was doing wonderful as an independant women. It was a new, fresh side to her character. However, if John hadn't come back, they would've still spent months doing a recovery storyline for her. Her future as a character would've been uncertain if John hadn't come back, I think. Chances are they would've paired her back with Roman which would've been lamer than the present situation.

While I'm also frustrated with John returning from the dead AGAIN like every other person that has died in Salem, his new personality is unique, witty and fantastic to watch.

His return has put Marlena on the backburner, but put an interesting spin on the couple!
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PhoenixRising05
May 14 2008, 01:22 AM
Tammy
May 14 2008, 12:17 AM
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May 14 2008, 12:13 AM
^She changes her mind depending on what John does.  For instance, when John saw right through Nicole, she praised him and when he was working on illegal things with Paul, she was pissed.  John isn't sure of who he is.  He admitted that.  He is kind of making it up as he goes along and that is what Marlena is reacting too.  I think it makes perfect sense for both of them.

I get that aspect of it... I really do. But if you love someone you LOVE them. You can't keep flipping the script because they do something that you don't like. How is John supposed to believe that she loves him if she changes her mind every two seconds?

I don't think she knows if she loves him. I think she is just as confused as he is.

Now see I agree there lmao! She is confused lol. All I am saying is she needs to tone it down with John. If she doesnt know how she feels about this John that is perfectly fine and normal, but then she needs to stop telling him that she loves him... because as I see it she DOESN"T love him... she loves her husband the OLD John. And as she always points out this John is not her husband! ;)
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