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DAYS: Weekly Discussion; Week of May 19
Topic Started: May 19 2008, 03:03 AM (6,708 Views)
Angie79
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Mason
May 22 2008, 12:37 AM
Call me old fashioned, but to me, when you verbally claim to love someone who loves you back, and then you have sex with someone else behind their back, it's cheating.

I would agree with you if Lucas hadn't refused to see Sami and told her to move on. By doing that he is breaking off the relationship, IMO.
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Tammy
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Both Sami and Lucas are to blame IMO. If you love someone and are commited to them you wouldn't WANT to sleep with someone else, for ANY reason. And if Lucas wanted Sami to be faithful he shouldn't have told her to move on. He can't very well tell her move on without me... just NOT with EJ!

JMO ;)
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IMissAremid
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After all... tomorrow is another day!

OK I have really no opinion on whether what Sami did constitutes as official actual cheating on Lucas, but I am just going to jump in and say whether you think it's cheating or not I would think most people would agree it is TOTALLY in character for Sami to self-righteously insist it's not cheating using whatever technical argument she has at her disposal after she's discovered in bed with EJ.

Also, I disagree that it is some big character betrayal for Sami to sleep with EJ while professing love for Lucas or for her to sleep with anyone that she is not definitely madly in love with, even though Drew is not the only person I've seen make this argument.

The first time Sami had consensual sex it was not because she was head over heels in romantic love for Lucas. She was feeling sad and vulnerable and lonely and within five minutes of it being over with she was back to her futile pursuit of Austin, realizing how the situation of Austin seeing them could be manipulated to break up Carrie and Austin, and the end result was it turned out that Sami had only used her supportive friend Lucas for sex, or at least that was what Sami projected toward Lucas while she professed true love for Austin.

Also, while Sami has always been so sanctimonious about the cheating of Marlena and her sisters and she never has cheated on Lucas before, she certainly did think about it with Brandon back in the day and IMO she sort of flirted with cheating on Lucas many times before this roll in the hay with the multiple times dating all the way back to fall 2006 that she has kissed/made out with EJ to manipulate him. IIRC all of these kisses she has kept a secret from Lucas, so that hints at some cheating or at least deception toward Lucas about her feelings for EJ. So to me this whole scene and her not thinking how her being with EJ would affect Lucas isn't totally out of nowhere.

I do agree though that Lucas coming to live at the mansion with his shooting victim is totally contrived and plot-driven. Now if it's entertaining (and to me it is at least in Thursday's show because it allows for all sort of Jawn snarking on the situation) I will forgive it, but I totally get why others think it's a load of crap.
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DramaKing
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^YUP!

However you feel about it it is IN char. it is who sami brady is.

gone are the days of that carrie wannabe heroine sami, back are the days of selfish its never my fault self distructive bitch sami!
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Red Mist
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WOW...Lucas is more horrible then I remembered. <_<

Ej's face broke my heart...Love him.

WAKE UP SAMI!!!

Oh and Again, SAMI did not cheat. She is married to Ej and Lucas dumped her VIA email. :lol: It makes me sick that Lucas would assume Sami was just sitting there waiting for the guy who cut her off and broke her heart... I guess Lucas thinks he is a bit of all that. lol :lol:
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☼ Jinx ☼
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Its not cheating!!

She married EJ because she was forced to. So, if she had slept with him during that timeperiod, it would qualify as cheating. Now, there was no hope of Lucas returning, and he dumped her via a letter. So, its not cheating anymore. He dumped her.

Lucas didn't seem as disturbed about the fact that she slept with another man but moreso because the other man was EJ. Lucas kept going on and on about how she betrayed him with the man who shot him. Lucas is so envious of EJ!!!
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Pearly
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Angie79
May 22 2008, 01:33 AM
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May 22 2008, 12:09 AM
I was rolling my eyes watching Sami tell Lucas that her marriage to EJ is not real! She could've come out of that marriage a long time ago if she really wanted to. Rather, she decided to help EJ from getting deported by staying married to him and becoming even closer to him. That is a choice Sami made. No one twisted her arm! She wouldn't have agreed to help EJ if she didn't care for him. That was her chance of get him out of her life if she really wanted.

Exactly. She could have ended the marriage by now if she wanted out! She did not cheat on Lucas. She is married to EJ and obviously has feelings for him; plus Lucas told her to move on! Telling someone to move on means the relationship with them is over. How anyone can say she cheated on Lucas is beyond me.

Preach it Angie!!!
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jcar03
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Are we going to start with a baby dream sequence everyday?
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Rakesh198
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I cannot believe Lucas called Samantha a lying cheating whore. I've lost all respect for him.
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Rakesh198
May 22 2008, 02:25 PM
I cannot believe Lucas called Samantha a lying cheating whore. I've lost all respect for him.

Does it really surprise you, Rakey? Once a moronic asshole.....always a moronic asshole.
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I don't believe Sami cheated on Lucas but she did betray him.

It was not that she slept with someone else as Lucas did dump her. It was that she slept with EJ, Lucas' mortal enemy.

Sami sleeping with EJ, TO ME, says that Sami does not really love Lucas. She may think that she does BUT actions speak louder than words.

She wouldn't lie for Lucas and help him build a defense to the attempted murder charges. She DID lie for EJ to help keep him in the country.

Lucas, while he may have had no right, did tell her to stay away from EJ except as absolutely necessary. Plus, she knows that Lucas feels EJ is responsible for ruining their lives. She also knew that Lucas could be out of prison soon. EJ told her while the first attempt failed, they could try again.

She sleeps with EJ? None of that adds up unless Sami doesn't really love Lucas the way she claims. So either Sami doesn't know what love is or the man she is really in love with is E.J. DiMera.
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Pearly_Moon
May 22 2008, 02:42 PM
Rakesh198
May 22 2008, 02:25 PM
I cannot believe Lucas called Samantha a lying cheating whore. I've lost all respect for him.

Does it really surprise you, Rakey? Once a moronic asshole.....always a moronic asshole.

I guess you're right. :D

I was ROFL when John said he's glad EJ finally did Sami. LMFAO.
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Kenny
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Phillip: "You just may be the medicine I need."

Chloe: "But I go down much easier."

Was this really said?! LoL 'Cause if so, kudos to the writers!
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Kenny
May 22 2008, 08:10 PM
Phillip: "You just may be the medicine I need."

Chloe: "But I go down much easier."

Was this really said?! LoL 'Cause if so, kudos to the writers!

For some reason I found it much easier when you brought it up
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I loved the Phloe lines. Of course, I loved all their interaction today. Philip looked hot in all black, and Chloe was covered up for once, which was nice. I loved her offer, him not jumping at it but telling her repeatedly to wait when she was ready to walk away. LOL

Higley's managing to get me watching a large part of the show again. I watched all of Lumi/J&M today, all of EJ/Nicole and even some of crazy Ava and Kayla. I'm not an Ejami or Lumi fan, but I am enjoying these scenes because I think they're well-acted and well-written (and the Ejami love scenes were pretty hot!).

I am seeing chemistry with EJ and Nicole, though. I wonder if Days will ever give them a shot, or if it'll be this triangle until the end of time.
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lucas wants to know how sami could be with ej after all hes done to her? reall;y?

hi lucas, remember when you tried to MURDER sami with ur mums?
remember when you plotted to take her son away?
remeber when you sent her to death row?
shall we go on?

not saying sami is innocent, fa rfrom it. but nither is lucas.

Lucas broke up with sami when he wouldnt talk to her, let her come see him, or anything. so it wasnt cheating.
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Todays show was pretty good, loved the Phloe scenes(Nadia actually acting), Nicole/EJ scenes, and the DiMansion drama. The Ava/Kayla scenes was just a pitiful attempt and making Ava likeable. You don't think Steve would have noticed Ava in disguise, no way he takes his eye off little Joe. I just found the scenes so forced.

Phloe: JKJ was smokin' in that black shirt he was wearing. I can't wait for Phillip and Chloe to get it on. I think they have loads of chemistry, and for once Nadia didn't seem as monotone as usual.

EJ/Nicole: Are we actaully ever going to see Pookie, besides the 5 seconds we saw the dog as Nicole stormed in the Kiriakis mansion? I really like when these two interact, I see them eventually hooking up.

How funny was Jawn, especially calling out the sexual energy between EJ and Sami. I wish Marlena would be given something to do, I just don't think Dena knows what to do with the character. I already want Lucas to leave, and it was just so stupid for him storm out of the DiMansion. Too bad he won't get thrown back in jail.



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IMissAremid
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After all... tomorrow is another day!

Jawn stole the DiMansion scenes for me today with all of his weird twitchy mannerisms, references to Lucas as "the convict," his cheshire grin as he takes a sip of his drink as the shit hit the fan, his waving his cigar in forgiveness for Sami calling the DiMansion a "nut house" and his blowing smoke in Marlena's face toward the end of the eppy. I don't know if Jawn amusing me made Lucas more tolerable or it was BD doing a better job or it was Sami standing up for herself somewhat or it was Jawn and Marlena sticking up for her, but the scenes were a lot more enjoyable for me today and I didn't even really care that much when Lucas berated her the way that the previous eppy had me throwing things at my TV. The ending with Lucas running outside and finding the ankle bracelet alarm actually worked and would go off if he left was really stupid though and Lucas and BD deserve better.

I love Nicole and I love the EJ-Nicole friendship. Nicole cracked me up with her reaction to Sami sleeping with EJ (her "tramp" was a lot funnier than Lucas's "lying, cheating whore") and EJ was sweet trying to give her the pep talk. If they fall into bed I won't be terribly upset even though I'm an Ejami fan, as long as it's not blackmail sex or anything that hurts Nicole or EJ's character too much.

So I missed all the Ava crazy so her insta-redemption doesn't bother me at all for what she's done in the past, but gosh she's kinda boring to me so far.

And as for Phloe, though I have recently been brought up to speed exactly why they fell apart as I had forgot/blocked out/never realized what happened after Victor caught them in the barn, these two are quite pretty together and I like Phil getting to be a badass Kiriakis while getting some romance too. So much better than roid rage Phillip or pining for Belle Phillip.
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I kind of liked the Ava and Kayla story today. It was real nice What Ava did for Kayla at the end.

The rest of the show was alright, especially in FF.
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Today was alright. I might be in the minority but I thought John's comment "I am glad EJ finally did you" was stupid. I normally like his little one liners but that sounded like it was written by a five year old.
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