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DAYS: Weekly Discussion!; 7/7/08 - 7/11/08
Topic Started: Jul 7 2008, 10:13 AM (7,827 Views)
ladyofthelake
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Jonatha
Jul 8 2008, 01:59 PM
ladyofthelake
Jul 8 2008, 12:55 PM
Christian and Talia's love scenes on OLTL were just about on the same level. In the diner? Yeah, it happens. Sorry, off my soapbox now. :soapbox:
What? When? I think you mean Antonio and Talia, Lady of the Lake! :biggrin:
EEEEKKKK!!! Now I'm mixing up brothers on OLTL! Did I just condemn the brother girl swap of Days to OLTL now??????? :drunk:
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Mason
Jul 8 2008, 02:14 PM
At least with the conference table sex, it lead to much bigger and much better story. There was a purpose for it, in the grand scheme of things. The Lucas/Chloe and E.J./Nicole elevator sex, on the other hand, I feel, was just thrown in for the hell of it, more or less.
What makes you think this isn't going to lead to EJ getting involved in the Nicole/Trent storyline? As for Lucas and Chloe....no comment.
I still hated the conference table scene. I don't like Marlena sacrificing her daughters (particularly Sami) for John. Not atall. And in the immortal words of Forest Gump "That's all I have to say bout that" :)
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ladyofthelake
Jul 8 2008, 02:18 PM
Mason
Jul 8 2008, 02:14 PM
At least with the conference table sex, it lead to much bigger and much better story. There was a purpose for it, in the grand scheme of things. The Lucas/Chloe and E.J./Nicole elevator sex, on the other hand, I feel, was just thrown in for the hell of it, more or less.
What makes you think this isn't going to lead to EJ getting involved in the Nicole/Trent storyline?
He might, but what difference would it make if he hadn't had sex with Nicole in the elevator? He'd probably still be involved in the Nicole/Trent storyline, anyway.
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Mason
Jul 8 2008, 02:21 PM
ladyofthelake
Jul 8 2008, 02:18 PM
Mason
Jul 8 2008, 02:14 PM
At least with the conference table sex, it lead to much bigger and much better story. There was a purpose for it, in the grand scheme of things. The Lucas/Chloe and E.J./Nicole elevator sex, on the other hand, I feel, was just thrown in for the hell of it, more or less.
What makes you think this isn't going to lead to EJ getting involved in the Nicole/Trent storyline?
He might, but what difference would it make if he hadn't had sex with Nicole in the elevator? He'd probably still be involved in the Nicole/Trent storyline, anyway.
EJ is most definitely going to get involved in the Nicole/Trent storyline..I think EJ will end up rescuing Nicole from Trent, but for now Trent will be a major complication for them..and i'm very excited for this story..3 characters that i really enjoy all in the same story..
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Mason


^ Right, but my point was, did E.J. and Nicole necessarily have to have sex for that to happen? No.
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Well I liked the EJole sex. I loved how they were so unapologetic to Sami when exiting that elevator and how far we've come that Nicole can seem so much more dignified telling Sami it's her own damn fault this happened then Sami can. I was a huge Sami fan but no character has deserved this much comeuppance other than Chelsea (so can we get Daniel/Lexie along side Nick and Stephanie next?)

And I agree, last year people were upset there were no love scenes. Granted this isn't so much love but I can dig it because I feel like all four characters are at a crossroads and it certainly makes for good drama.

Now Max is interesting when he is in scenes with other people rather than Stephanie. However, that does not include Roman and green talk is bad enough with popular characters like Bope discussing it but Max and Roman makes it puke green talk. I find Stephanie and Max are such bores when they have the same conversation over and over. Ok, so talking about his long lost sister is new, but the emotions are the same and all it does is remind me how much I miss Chick, since Blake and Rachel always keep my interest, even last summer when they repeated the same breakup scene five times in a row. (Damn you show for choosing Stax over Chick!)



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Mason
Jul 8 2008, 02:30 PM
^ Right, but my point was, did E.J. and Nicole necessarily have to have sex for that to happen? No.
Yes because it progressed them as characters and as a couple. It was time to move them to another level. They've been building to it for 3 months. He;ll, they almost did it before and Nicole put the breaks on. You can tell these two are being built for the long haul. The way their scenes are executed and written suggests that and I'm with Kev. This is a great story and you toss in the Trent complication and also Sami as a lingering presence and it's solid.

I couldn't agree more that Lucas/Chloe was forced and trashy. No question but I think that was intentional. It's just a way of causing Sami to meltdown and to realize she screwed up. It's a comeuppance of a different sort.

Haven't watched today's yet but will post when I do.
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PhoenixRising05
Jul 8 2008, 03:05 PM
I couldn't agree more that Lucas/Chloe was forced and trashy. No question but I think that was intentional. It's just a way of causing Sami to meltdown and to realize she screwed up. It's a comeuppance of a different sort.
I am all for Sami getting whats coming to her... but was it necessary to give the viewing audience retina burn and a upset stomach in the process lmao. We were the ones to had to VIEW Lucas and Chloe, Sami was fortunate that she only got the aftermath of it :P

Forgive me... I am in a weird mood today lol.
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PhoenixRising05
Jul 8 2008, 03:05 PM
Mason
Jul 8 2008, 02:30 PM
^ Right, but my point was, did E.J. and Nicole necessarily have to have sex for that to happen? No.
Yes because it progressed them as characters and as a couple. It was time to move them to another level. They've been building to it for 3 months. He;ll, they almost did it before and Nicole put the breaks on. You can tell these two are being built for the long haul. The way their scenes are executed and written suggests that and I'm with Kev. This is a great story and you toss in the Trent complication and also Sami as a lingering presence and it's solid.

I couldn't agree more that Lucas/Chloe was forced and trashy. No question but I think that was intentional. It's just a way of causing Sami to meltdown and to realize she screwed up. It's a comeuppance of a different sort.

Haven't watched today's yet but will post when I do.
Although I think they could have progressed their story without the elevator sex, I agree that it does show progression in the EJ/Nicole story. There was a lot more to their scene than just sex; there was also tenderness and respect and friendship. When I watched, I could feel real emotion between Nicole and EJ, unlike what was taking place with Chloe and Lucas. That felt gratuitous, like the show was just wanting to placate the BD fans by showing some skin. The writers are clearly giving their time and attention to EJ and Nicole, while Chloe and Lucas--up to this point--are being used to force another Sami tantrum.
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Got to say Chloe was hillarious today..Loved how she faked her histerics to try to save Lucas..While shes not my favorite character, there are moments like today when i really enjoy her..

And loved EJ, Nicole, and Sami..Loved Nicole telling Sami thats its not always about her...

Max and Stephanie were pretty good too, its amazing what an interesting story can do for characters i don't care about..But Max's flashback was way too long..
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ladyofthelake
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Mason
Jul 8 2008, 02:30 PM
^ Right, but my point was, did E.J. and Nicole necessarily have to have sex for that to happen? No.
Why not? Hasn't Days been a sexless soap long enough?
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Days4Life
Jul 8 2008, 03:57 PM
PhoenixRising05
Jul 8 2008, 03:05 PM
Mason
Jul 8 2008, 02:30 PM
^ Right, but my point was, did E.J. and Nicole necessarily have to have sex for that to happen? No.
Yes because it progressed them as characters and as a couple. It was time to move them to another level. They've been building to it for 3 months. He;ll, they almost did it before and Nicole put the breaks on. You can tell these two are being built for the long haul. The way their scenes are executed and written suggests that and I'm with Kev. This is a great story and you toss in the Trent complication and also Sami as a lingering presence and it's solid.

I couldn't agree more that Lucas/Chloe was forced and trashy. No question but I think that was intentional. It's just a way of causing Sami to meltdown and to realize she screwed up. It's a comeuppance of a different sort.

Haven't watched today's yet but will post when I do.
Although I think they could have progressed their story without the elevator sex, I agree that it does show progression in the EJ/Nicole story. There was a lot more to their scene than just sex; there was also tenderness and respect and friendship. When I watched, I could feel real emotion between Nicole and EJ, unlike what was taking place with Chloe and Lucas. That felt gratuitous, like the show was just wanting to placate the BD fans by showing some skin. The writers are clearly giving their time and attention to EJ and Nicole, while Chloe and Lucas--up to this point--are being used to force another Sami tantrum.
What can I say but yes??? :hail:
And yes, Phoenix, it does take the relationship to another level.
Chloe and Lucas? I guess rebound "let's test the waters and see what happens so we can do something with these guys without the same old same old". Since I'm been patiently waiting for them to treat Lucas right (like I've been waiting for good Nick stuff) I'm going to see how the story progresses before I set judgement.
However, Chan? I will eagerly and faithfully judge in the negative til Kingdom Come. :D
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Days4Life
Jul 8 2008, 03:57 PM
PhoenixRising05
Jul 8 2008, 03:05 PM
Mason
Jul 8 2008, 02:30 PM
^ Right, but my point was, did E.J. and Nicole necessarily have to have sex for that to happen? No.
Yes because it progressed them as characters and as a couple. It was time to move them to another level. They've been building to it for 3 months. He;ll, they almost did it before and Nicole put the breaks on. You can tell these two are being built for the long haul. The way their scenes are executed and written suggests that and I'm with Kev. This is a great story and you toss in the Trent complication and also Sami as a lingering presence and it's solid.

I couldn't agree more that Lucas/Chloe was forced and trashy. No question but I think that was intentional. It's just a way of causing Sami to meltdown and to realize she screwed up. It's a comeuppance of a different sort.

Haven't watched today's yet but will post when I do.
Although I think they could have progressed their story without the elevator sex, I agree that it does show progression in the EJ/Nicole story. There was a lot more to their scene than just sex; there was also tenderness and respect and friendship. When I watched, I could feel real emotion between Nicole and EJ, unlike what was taking place with Chloe and Lucas.
James and Ari have great chemistry but the best thing about EJ/Nicole is there's a clear vision behind the pairing. Unlike so much else on the show, very few of their scenes come across as random or plot-driven. The reason new couples consistently bomb on DAYS is writers waste time with aimless "chemistry experiments" instead of developing a compelling dynamic from day one. This is a refreshing exception.

I also love the irony of EJ learning about true love/acceptance from someone with such a tragic record in that department. It's a premise that allows for both romance and angst...always the most compelling combination, IMO.
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ladyofthelake
Jul 8 2008, 05:27 PM
Mason
Jul 8 2008, 02:30 PM
^ Right, but my point was, did E.J. and Nicole necessarily have to have sex for that to happen? No.
Why not? Hasn't Days been a sexless soap long enough?
I'm not saying I don't want to see love scenes or that E.J. and Nicole shouldn't have had sex. All I'm saying is that, for the purposes of bringing E.J. into Nicole's story with Trent, it was unnecessary.
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Mason
Jul 8 2008, 06:30 PM
ladyofthelake
Jul 8 2008, 05:27 PM
Mason
Jul 8 2008, 02:30 PM
^ Right, but my point was, did E.J. and Nicole necessarily have to have sex for that to happen? No.
Why not? Hasn't Days been a sexless soap long enough?
I'm not saying I don't want to see love scenes or that E.J. and Nicole shouldn't have had sex. All I'm saying is that, for the purposes of bringing E.J. into Nicole's story with Trent, it was unnecessary.
We don't know that. Yeah, you're probably right, but I'll fight that because you know....I don't think you'd say anything good about Dena's writing if someone had a gun to your head. :D And I want to have high hopes about SOMETHING. I don't think I got more excited about a couple since Shimi. (yeah, I know how that turned out too, but it was great while it lasted!)
BUT, there are things about her writing that make me cringe (Stax and Chan, anyone?) but I don't mind admitting when I enjoy something or have a hint of enjoying something. I enjoy this, and I'll eagerly wait to see it unfold. Now, if it unfolds like EJami ended up, then I'll be pissed. But I'll be pissed after waiting it through first.
Same with the Steve/Kayla confrontation and the autism storyline.
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ladyofthelake
Jul 8 2008, 07:37 PM
I don't think you'd say anything good about Dena's writing if someone had a gun to your head. :D
What good is there to say about it?
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Jul 8 2008, 06:30 PM
ladyofthelake
Jul 8 2008, 05:27 PM
Mason
Jul 8 2008, 02:30 PM
^ Right, but my point was, did E.J. and Nicole necessarily have to have sex for that to happen? No.
Why not? Hasn't Days been a sexless soap long enough?
I'm not saying I don't want to see love scenes or that E.J. and Nicole shouldn't have had sex. All I'm saying is that, for the purposes of bringing E.J. into Nicole's story with Trent, it was unnecessary.
I think EJ and Nicole being lovers could play a very important role in their scenes with Trent. Trent used and manipulated Nicole. She basically sees him as one of her abusers.

Say EJ learns what happened to Nicole and is forced to watch as Nicole and Trent continue to interact...say because they have a child in common, will EJ have a new found understanding for what Lucas had to endure?

I don't know what is going to happen, all I'm saying is that the elevator scene might have been necessary.

For the record I loved watching the intimacy between EJ and Nicole unfold. JS and AZ really blew me away.
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I really don't see why people get on Mason and others for expressing their dislikes of Dena Higley's writing. He's not alone. There are a lot of people that find DAYS unwatchable right now, myself included. I have yet to watch more than 10 minutes of an episode since last Tuesday. I'm just bored with everything. I keep up with spoilers and recaps on the Internet, but when I go to turn the show on at 3, by the opening segment, I'm turning the show off. I just don't care anymore. None of Dena's stories are intriguing to me and don't grab my attention. It's just boring.

Not everyone is going to enjoy what is being on screen. Not everyone enjoyed Hogan Sheffer's time on DAYS, but I did. Now I know how those other people felt. But that isn't goin to stop me from expressing my dislike of the show until something is corrected, the same way everyone else didn't shut up until Hogan was released. And I hope Mason and the others don't quit "complaining" either. It's our right to express our views, even if they're negative. If that's how we feel about the show right now, then that's all we can post about.
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Mason
Jul 8 2008, 07:41 PM
ladyofthelake
Jul 8 2008, 07:37 PM
I don't think you'd say anything good about Dena's writing if someone had a gun to your head. :D
What good is there to say about it?
Wow, Mason, I don't KNOW!!!! Seems like there are posters here who have found something good. Hmmm. ;)
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ladyofthelake
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DrewHamilton
Jul 8 2008, 08:51 PM
I really don't see why people get on Mason and others for expressing their dislikes of Dena Higley's writing. He's not alone. There are a lot of people that find DAYS unwatchable right now, myself included. I have yet to watch more than 10 minutes of an episode since last Tuesday. I'm just bored with everything. I keep up with spoilers and recaps on the Internet, but when I go to turn the show on at 3, by the opening segment, I'm turning the show off. I just don't care anymore. None of Dena's stories are intriguing to me and don't grab my attention. It's just boring.

Not everyone is going to enjoy what is being on screen. Not everyone enjoyed Hogan Sheffer's time on DAYS, but I did. Now I know how those other people felt. But that isn't goin to stop me from expressing my dislike of the show until something is corrected, the same way everyone else didn't shut up until Hogan was released. And I hope Mason and the others don't quit "complaining" either. It's our right to express our views, even if they're negative. If that's how we feel about the show right now, then that's all we can post about.
Oh, good grief, just relax. I was razzing him. We were in a debate. I hoped to lighten the mood, but apparently, my joke fell flat. :shrug:
I've done my share of bitchin' about the show, and I'm thankful that I have something to actually look forward to. And, I have the right to point THAT out. So, we're all good. Time to sing Kum Bah Yah and all that jazz.................I'm sure in time, I'll have something to bitch about, and it might be when you celebrate. Who knows?
Now I return your to your regular show bash.......
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