DAYS: Philip takes a bullet!

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DAYS: Philip takes a bullet!
Topic Started: Jul 17 2008, 07:14 AM (2,048 Views)
annalee003	Jul 18 2008, 01:09 PM Post #21
Posts: 324 Group: Elite Member Member #644 Joined: December 20, 2007	Paxton Jul 18 2008, 12:36 PM marisol40 Jul 18 2008, 10:00 AM And guilt is surely the rock solid foundation for any lasting relationship. Well your mind can say one thing and your heart another. Philip is attracted to Morgan, that much as obvious. However, he has been hurt before, so perhaps he is telling himself that he is only interested in her out of guilt, to protect himself from falling for her. That is where the angst comes into play in this storyline and that is why I think if written well ( I know wishful thinking) this love story could be amazing. I think that her confessing her feelings for him is going to be a catalyst in their relationship that is going to cause Philip to examine his own feelings for her. There is alot more going on here then just a guilty conscience. It isn't obvious to me that Philip is attracted to Morgan. KR is the exception to my rule that JKJ has chemistry with everyone. I don't deny that Philip likes Morgan well enough, but IMO she might as well be his sister for all the heat they generate. I will never think this could be an amazing love story, not just because of the lack of chemistry but because it makes no sense to me that even if Philip fell in love with Morgan at some point, that she would ever care for him once she knows the truth. She ought to feel personally used, manipulated and humiliated, never mind that the man she thinks she loves callously rejected her father's bid for help after leading him down the path of criminal destruction--regardless of who actually killed him (or made him disappear). As a former EJAmi fan, I'm certainly not unfamiliar with the concept of rationalizing away the guy's behavior, but even in that case there were things I just couldn't handle, specifically EJ tricking Sami into thinking he had poisoned her when she was pregnant. And back then I saw chemistry, which is enough to cover a lot of ills. When you don't see it, as I don't in this pairing--although others do, of course--then the storyline problems loom larger than ever. But Dena doesn't exactly write women who can walk or chew gum without a man. But one thing we do agree on is that hoping for good writing is wishful thinking! :P :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:



Carengodt	Jul 19 2008, 12:53 PM Post #22
Posts: 8 Group: Members Member #2,319 Joined: June 3, 2008	Hi I'm relatively new to the board. First IA completely with Rhiannon, this seems to be a continuation of the propping of Dr. Dan by DH and crew. I would dread to be in the kiriakis family or even associated with them, as they seem to be on a never ending list for going to the hospital for some absurd and obscure reason only to be 'saved' by Doctor Dan. Now Philip is joining that long line, and I guess I'm already picking out the things to throw at the screen when all the nauseating comentary about how only Dr. Dan can save him and how briliant he is will start up yet again. Seriously enough already !!! Have they lost all creative writing capability since they are continuating this line of BS. It is like the same s/l over and over with a new substitute for the at risk / in need of beeing saved. I'm amazed that the rest of Salems population hasn't headed for the hills already or completly dis-associated themselves from having any contact at all with Dr. Dan as this involves serious risk to ones health. I know that soaps are a step away from reality but come on, give us a break already DH !!!! :frustration:



Shylock	Jul 19 2008, 02:35 PM Post #23
Posts: 703 Group: Elite Member Member #2,476 Joined: June 27, 2008 Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera Days Of Our Lives Favorite Soap Opera of All Time See above. Current Soap Rankings Days & GH	Dan is one of the chief medical personnel at Salem's hospital. Of course he's going to be injected into most of the medic-related scenes. This is more of a problem with Days not having a solid recurring cast to fill in these places and give the soap more depth.



ladyofthelake	Jul 19 2008, 03:10 PM Post #24
Posts: 7,827 Group: Veteran Member #1,765 Joined: January 31, 2008 Twitter ID ladyofthelake60	Nawww. It boils down to Daniel being Super Doc. I used to really like the Morgan character. But, for these past few weeks, she's been getting on my nerves. No more Phorgan love for me.................... (Time to bring Belle back for Philip)...



Carengodt	Jul 19 2008, 03:11 PM Post #25
Posts: 8 Group: Members Member #2,319 Joined: June 3, 2008	I hear what your saying Shylock, but what about Lexi ? Surely as Chief she has equal qualifications.



ladyofthelake	Jul 19 2008, 03:12 PM Post #26
Posts: 7,827 Group: Veteran Member #1,765 Joined: January 31, 2008 Twitter ID ladyofthelake60	Carengodt Jul 19 2008, 03:11 PM I hear what your saying Shylock, but what about Lexi ? Surely as Chief she has equal qualifications. But which is the lesser of two evils?



Carengodt	Jul 19 2008, 03:27 PM Post #27
Posts: 8 Group: Members Member #2,319 Joined: June 3, 2008	IA with you Ladyofthelake with regards to Phorgan. This is another s/l that has been going around in circles for a while. Morgan has reached new levels of annoyance with her relentless accusations of John and sudden overnight blind faith in Philip. However worried she is for her father, she is not giving any thought to his warnings for her to stay away from Philip, instead of just tagging after him like a blind lapdog. Another example of poor writing. It would have been far more interesting to see her dubious of both John and Philip, trying to get to the bottom of things herself. I'm beyond tirred of her character as well plus Phorgan seems contrived and as a result are not intriguing to watch !!! :frustration:



Shylock	Jul 19 2008, 03:29 PM Post #28
Posts: 703 Group: Elite Member Member #2,476 Joined: June 27, 2008 Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera Days Of Our Lives Favorite Soap Opera of All Time See above. Current Soap Rankings Days & GH	ladyofthelake Jul 19 2008, 03:10 PM Nawww. It boils down to Daniel being Super Doc. I used to really like the Morgan character. But, for these past few weeks, she's been getting on my nerves. No more Phorgan love for me.................... (Time to bring Belle back for Philip)... Belle wasn't much more interesting for Phillip than Morgan is now.



Carengodt	Jul 19 2008, 03:31 PM Post #29
Posts: 8 Group: Members Member #2,319 Joined: June 3, 2008	Wow ladyofthelake you are quick with your replies. :wave: Plus LOL at the thought of the lesser of two evils. Now that you mention it that is definetly worth taking into consideration. I guess one shouldn't really get ill etc. in Salem !



Shylock	Jul 19 2008, 03:50 PM Post #30
Posts: 703 Group: Elite Member Member #2,476 Joined: June 27, 2008 Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera Days Of Our Lives Favorite Soap Opera of All Time See above. Current Soap Rankings Days & GH	Carengodt Jul 19 2008, 03:11 PM I hear what your saying Shylock, but what about Lexi ? Surely as Chief she has equal qualifications. They kinda go back and forth between Lexie and Dan, but they've since shifted focus to Dan. [random tangent] I think they really missed out on an Abe/Lexie storyline where her faithfulness to him becomes an issue. Ever since she came back, they haven't done anything with that. The show has so many characters going back and forth with the same ol', that they should've really utilized some of the other characters on the show. Lexie should have had a fling with Dan, to where Abe eventually finds out and dumps her. This would've coincided with Dan finally succumbing to his feelings for Chelsea and then you bring the Kate factor in later. What you'd have is some scumbag playboy doctor character. I would say that, although they don't get rid of her altogether, they strip Lexie of her Chief of Staff position and hand it to das wunderdoctor Daniel. He could lie to the Salem Hospital's board of directors (or whoever controls this stuff) and say that she said if he didn't shack up with her that his job would be at risk. Then Lexie could find out that Daniel had also gotten with Kate before he committed to her granddaughter (or whatever), and then she'd have that against him, but he'd fire her and kill her reputation so that she couldn't work as a doctor again if it came out. He'd have the commitment to Chelsea, there'd be that "we want each other, but it's so wrong" thing with Kate (where they would probably succumb to their temptations again), and then there's his issue with Lexie (and Abe). This would be a lower-level storyline that'd have about six or seven people involved (Abe, Lexie, Daniel, Kate, Chelsea, Theo, and bring in Celeste too) and could be a compelling mid-level story that they could use instead of having the same dialogue with other stories over and over again. You also play out the angst in Abe and Lexie's relationship (at whatever level that may be) with both being dedicated to their job, the strife at home, and Theo getting into trouble at school (fights, bad grades, bad attitude, etc). Eventually you could bring more people in with motivations against Daniel and do a whodunnit type of storyline when you kill him off (because I really wouldn't see him lasting). Abe has motivation, as do Lexie, Chelsea (when she finds out), Kate (when the whole thing's exposed much to her chagrin), maybe Bo (for Daniel using his daughter, this could also play into the inevitable corruption thing), etc. I'd probably bring Tek back into the mix and maybe have him frame Abe for the murder. Then Mike Horton comes back, gets voted to Chief Of Staff, and all is well with the world. [/random tangent] Edited by Shylock, Jul 19 2008, 03:51 PM.



ladyofthelake	Jul 19 2008, 04:05 PM Post #31
Posts: 7,827 Group: Veteran Member #1,765 Joined: January 31, 2008 Twitter ID ladyofthelake60	Shylock Jul 19 2008, 03:29 PM ladyofthelake Jul 19 2008, 03:10 PM Nawww. It boils down to Daniel being Super Doc. I used to really like the Morgan character. But, for these past few weeks, she's been getting on my nerves. No more Phorgan love for me.................... (Time to bring Belle back for Philip)... Belle wasn't much more interesting for Phillip than Morgan is now. Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on that and save it for another thread. ;) Either way, at least Philip is the object of female affection instead of being the third wheel. He's too hunky to be a third wheel!!! :D



ladyofthelake	Jul 19 2008, 04:07 PM Post #32
Posts: 7,827 Group: Veteran Member #1,765 Joined: January 31, 2008 Twitter ID ladyofthelake60	Carengodt Jul 19 2008, 03:31 PM Wow ladyofthelake you are quick with your replies. :wave: Plus LOL at the thought of the lesser of two evils. Now that you mention it that is definetly worth taking into consideration. I guess one shouldn't really get ill etc. in Salem ! LOL. Sometimes being quick with my replies gets me into a HELL of a lot of hot water! But, yeah. I still secretly hope Daniel is a doctor that is trying to make people sick. Or, like the running storyline on ER a few years ago with (dang it, who was that?) actress who made her way into the hospital, and they found out she had fake credentials. Was that Mare Winningham, or am I dreaming that?



ladyofthelake	Jul 19 2008, 04:08 PM Post #33
Posts: 7,827 Group: Veteran Member #1,765 Joined: January 31, 2008 Twitter ID ladyofthelake60	Shylock Jul 19 2008, 03:50 PM Then Mike Horton comes back, gets voted to Chief Of Staff, and all is well with the world. Only if Mike Horton is Michael T. Weiss!! Well, OK, I'll take Wesley Eure, too. (I'm aging myself here) :D



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