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Dena Higley QUITS — SUDS REPORT EXCLUSIVE; Breaking News — TVGC; ATWT actor FIRED
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Topic Started: Jul 26 2008, 06:10 PM (133,364 Views)
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Jiggs
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Jul 29 2008, 11:54 PM
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I swear, I wish that half of the shit I know now about Days that I never knew then would just be repressed. I wish I was still a DAYS: Behind the Scenes virgin. There have been some crazy ass people working in and around Days.
So, what?! Now this Koala person is coming back to Days as HW....possibly? Or is this a joke.
Thanks Kenny!
No way she's coming back to the show. I'm pretty sure TPTB at Days know what happened with her because it was a scandal all across the soap web at the time. Plus, she opened her mouth way too much and revealed far too much behind-the-scenes stuff in those interviews with WoST -- no way would they trust her to work at the show again. She's a weirdo and a loose cannon. I hope the same goes for Tom Casiello.
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Jul 29 2008, 11:54 PM
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I know some will accuse us of taking things off topic with that last stuff, but to make it on subject for those that get mad about that in this thread.
People say that there is interference now and that is why writers can't write. That has nothing to do with it. There has always been interference and there have always been producers and writers who clashed and ruled their soaps with a tight fist. Soaps prospered under them. People knew their place and they came to work and did their job and did it to the best of their ability. They had the talent to do it.
Today they don't. That is the reason I keep coming back to people using the interference excuse as to why these writers can't write. Of course even though JER was interfered with he isn't given any slack, but Hogan is. But that is another story.
Both fall into the same category. They were too petty and lacked the talent to write anything but what they wanted to write. My guess is that with them and with Higley and others it is not that they really don't have the talent - they are just like the child playing baseball and if it is not done his way by his friends then he is going to take his ball and go home.
JER, Higley and Hogan (if they truly were interfered with) were like that child - well if I can't write what I want this is what you are going to get out of me that that is all. I'll hold back my talent and go home. :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:
Preach It, Brother Steve, Preach It!!! Irna Phillips and Ted Corday may have hated PGP's Robert Short and Ed Trach at the end of the work day but the audience was never the wiser!!! None of the obvious backstage bullshit didn't end up effecting the final result on screen back then like it does nowadays!!!
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Mason
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Jul 29 2008, 11:55 PM
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I hope the same goes for Tom Casiello. Why? What did he do that was so terrible?
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Matt
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Jul 29 2008, 11:57 PM
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I don't even think soap viewers had a clue what went on behind the scenes until that great AW brouhaha of 1975.
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Jul 29 2008, 11:57 PM
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If they promoted from within instead of hiring an outside writer, I would imagine Rick Draughon (Higley's current Co-HW) would get the HW job. Now that's a scary thought!
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Kirk
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Jul 29 2008, 11:58 PM
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I know some will accuse us of taking things off topic with that last stuff, but to make it on subject for those that get mad about that in this thread.
People say that there is interference now and that is why writers can't write. That has nothing to do with it. There has always been interference and there have always been producers and writers who clashed and ruled their soaps with a tight fist. Soaps prospered under them. People knew their place and they came to work and did their job and did it to the best of their ability. They had the talent to do it.
Today they don't. That is the reason I keep coming back to people using the interference excuse as to why these writers can't write. Of course even though JER was interfered with he isn't given any slack, but Hogan is. But that is another story.
Both fall into the same category. They were too petty and lacked the talent to write anything but what they wanted to write. My guess is that with them and with Higley and others it is not that they really don't have the talent - they are just like the child playing baseball and if it is not done his way by his friends then he is going to take his ball and go home.
JER, Higley and Hogan (if they truly were interfered with) were like that child - well if I can't write what I want this is what you are going to get out of me that that is all. I'll hold back my talent and go home. :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: Preach It, Brother Steve, Preach It!!! Irna Phillips and Ted Corday may have hated PGP's Robert Short and Ed Trach at the end of the work day but the audience was never the wiser!!! None of the obvious backstage bullshit didn't end up effecting the final result on screen back then like it does nowadays!!! I think some of that has to do with fans not knowing backstage gossip as easily as fans do today. It seems in today's world its all about the next scoop, who can find the next juicy scoop. The fans know way too much, spoilers included.
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Jul 30 2008, 12:01 AM
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Exactly, Kirk.
With the advent of the message board era, things are much more accessible and it's much more easy for thinks to leak without the person who leaked them being so easy to get caught. A inside source can leak something and we may never know who exactly it is. Not to mention, loyalty means nothing anymore. Yes, there was backstabbing but now it just seems like the genre is such a mess that everyone thinks they have the right idea of how to fix it, hence all the different visions conflicting. That means things are much more volatile and it's hard to trust anyone because they all want their vision to be the one hitting the screen.
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Jul 30 2008, 12:01 AM
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I swear, I wish that half of the shit I know now about Days that I never knew then would just be repressed. I wish I was still a DAYS: Behind the Scenes virgin. There have been some crazy ass people working in and around Days.
So, what?! Now this Koala person is coming back to Days as HW....possibly? Or is this a joke.
Thanks Kenny!
No way she's coming back to the show. I'm pretty sure TPTB at Days know what happened with her because it was a scandal all across the soap web at the time. Plus, she opened her mouth way too much and revealed far too much behind-the-scenes stuff in those interviews with WoST -- no way would they trust her to work at the show again. She's a weirdo and a loose cannon.
I hope the same goes for Tom Casiello. Does he not like J&M or something?
I don't think he would be the best HW of all time like some seem to believe, but what's not to like about Tom Casiello? He loves and has passion for the soap genre, grew up watching soaps, and is very dedicated from what I can tell and just wants a chance at writing good soap. I know if I were hiring someone that's all the qualities I would be looking for.
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Jul 30 2008, 12:07 AM
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I'd love Casiello, but I am afraid he shot himself in the foot by speaking out to us. :(
Which is horribly unfair to him. More writers should be like him. Frankly!
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Jul 30 2008, 12:08 AM
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I swear, I wish that half of the shit I know now about Days that I never knew then would just be repressed. I wish I was still a DAYS: Behind the Scenes virgin. There have been some crazy ass people working in and around Days.
So, what?! Now this Koala person is coming back to Days as HW....possibly? Or is this a joke.
Thanks Kenny!
No way she's coming back to the show. I'm pretty sure TPTB at Days know what happened with her because it was a scandal all across the soap web at the time. Plus, she opened her mouth way too much and revealed far too much behind-the-scenes stuff in those interviews with WoST -- no way would they trust her to work at the show again. She's a weirdo and a loose cannon.
I hope the same goes for Tom Casiello.
Does he not like J&M or something? I don't think he would be the best HW of all time like some seem to believe, but what's not to like about Tom Casiello? He loves and has passion for the soap genre, grew up watching soaps, and is very dedicated from what I can tell and just wants a chance at writing good soap. I know if I were hiring someone that's all the qualities I would be looking for. Tom said he would get rid all the Vets and only have young ones on!!!! Sorry I won't be watching!!!
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Jul 30 2008, 12:11 AM
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Well, here's a bit of history that kinda ties in to this thread... the rumor has it Irna wasn't happy when Don McLaughlin (Chris, ATWT) changed some of Irna's dialogue. She'd call from her Chicago apartment and complain that he was doing it.
Finally, when she was in New York a little later and I think Helen Wagner had been hired back, Don went to Irna and said "Irna, I'll say the lines you've written and I'll follow the content of your script. But if you want me to say your lines word for word... well, you'd better get yourself another actor."
She never said a damn thing to Don after that. :)
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Jul 30 2008, 12:15 AM
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I swear, I wish that half of the shit I know now about Days that I never knew then would just be repressed. I wish I was still a DAYS: Behind the Scenes virgin. There have been some crazy ass people working in and around Days.
So, what?! Now this Koala person is coming back to Days as HW....possibly? Or is this a joke.
Thanks Kenny!
No way she's coming back to the show. I'm pretty sure TPTB at Days know what happened with her because it was a scandal all across the soap web at the time. Plus, she opened her mouth way too much and revealed far too much behind-the-scenes stuff in those interviews with WoST -- no way would they trust her to work at the show again. She's a weirdo and a loose cannon.
I hope the same goes for Tom Casiello.
Does he not like J&M or something? I don't think he would be the best HW of all time like some seem to believe, but what's not to like about Tom Casiello? He loves and has passion for the soap genre, grew up watching soaps, and is very dedicated from what I can tell and just wants a chance at writing good soap. I know if I were hiring someone that's all the qualities I would be looking for. Tom said he would get rid all the Vets and only have young ones on!!!! Sorry I won't be watching!!! I am not saying he didn't say this, but that doesn't sound like anything close to what Tom would say. I have heard just about all his interviews and he loves writing for the vets and characters with lots of history. Maybe he was being sarcastic when he said he would only write for the youngins'.
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Jul 30 2008, 12:15 AM
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I hope the same goes for Tom Casiello.
Why? What did he do that was so terrible? His dream storyline is to bring on a female character who interacts with everyone but who is troubled and hooks up with Brady Black and goes to Marlena for counseling and eventually we find out it's really Kristen Blake? That's all he needed to say to seal his fate with me LOL
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Jul 30 2008, 12:19 AM
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I hope the same goes for Tom Casiello.
Why? What did he do that was so terrible?
His dream storyline is to bring on a female character who interacts with everyone but who is troubled and hooks up with Brady Black and goes to Marlena for counseling and eventually we find out it's really Kristen Blake? That's all he needed to say to seal his fate with me LOL I would love that! And that would give Marlena ample screen time, isn't that a good thing Jiggs?
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Jul 30 2008, 12:20 AM
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But Jiggs, you should read some of his blogs..The guy is very passionate about Days and about the soap genre..And he actually takes time for chat sessions...He's a really cool guy...And a talented script writer..But i do think the head writer position would probably be too much for him to take on..i just wish he hadn't have been screwed over by the writers strike for Dena Higley and her team..
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Jul 30 2008, 12:30 AM
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I hope the same goes for Tom Casiello.
Why? What did he do that was so terrible?
His dream storyline is to bring on a female character who interacts with everyone but who is troubled and hooks up with Brady Black and goes to Marlena for counseling and eventually we find out it's really Kristen Blake? That's all he needed to say to seal his fate with me LOL Well that actually would be a story to appeal to me if they cast the right people in it, but even if I hated the idea of this storyline I still don't get why that would make Tom C. either a "weirdo" or a "loose cannon" on par with Kola Boof.
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Jul 30 2008, 12:33 AM
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Tom is very passionate and has some great ideas. Of course, I doubt he will ever get a HW's position now. Like King said, he has opened up alot and while that is welcome by us, it's not by the TPTB.
Jiggs, Tom merely said at some point the torch needs to be passed, just like what happened in the 80's when Bope, J&M, and Steve and Kayla came on the scene. Days probably should've did it years ago but it kept milking the supercouples and now it's stuck between a rock and a hard place. It's also got so many fans who want different things. That is one of the big issues along with Corday and the writers.
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Jul 30 2008, 12:41 AM
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I know some will accuse us of taking things off topic with that last stuff, but to make it on subject for those that get mad about that in this thread.
People say that there is interference now and that is why writers can't write. That has nothing to do with it. There has always been interference and there have always been producers and writers who clashed and ruled their soaps with a tight fist. Soaps prospered under them. People knew their place and they came to work and did their job and did it to the best of their ability. They had the talent to do it.
Today they don't. That is the reason I keep coming back to people using the interference excuse as to why these writers can't write. Of course even though JER was interfered with he isn't given any slack, but Hogan is. But that is another story.
Both fall into the same category. They were too petty and lacked the talent to write anything but what they wanted to write. My guess is that with them and with Higley and others it is not that they really don't have the talent - they are just like the child playing baseball and if it is not done his way by his friends then he is going to take his ball and go home.
JER, Higley and Hogan (if they truly were interfered with) were like that child - well if I can't write what I want this is what you are going to get out of me that that is all. I'll hold back my talent and go home. :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: Preach It, Brother Steve, Preach It!!! Irna Phillips and Ted Corday may have hated PGP's Robert Short and Ed Trach at the end of the work day but the audience was never the wiser!!! None of the obvious backstage bullshit didn't end up effecting the final result on screen back then like it does nowadays!!!
I think some of that has to do with fans not knowing backstage gossip as easily as fans do today. It seems in today's world its all about the next scoop, who can find the next juicy scoop. The fans know way too much, spoilers included. I totally disagree. As Gregorzick said and I tried to say.
Today even if you don't know what is going on you see from what gets onscreen that something is happening.
What happened back then didn't affect it. Gloria Monty and Allen Potter put Douglas Marland through hell working at GH and GL, but you would never know it from watching the stories.
Eileen Fulton and Rosemary Prinz both went through hell working for Irna in the 60's from waht both have said. Rosemary even vowed to never work in daytime again because of all the headaches. But both turned in great performances all the time.
Today you don't even have to know to what is going on behind the scenes to know something is not right. The quality is not there. Things are uneven.
I mean you would have to be an idiot to tune into Days the last few weeks from waht I am told and try to catch the autism story and not know something happened. I mean they went on Today Show for fuck's sake and promoted the story and then that is all there is.
Things come off very uneven. I will agree with you for the sake of argument here that Hogan was interfered with. Well you knew something wasn't right when you watched the show. I mean here was a man who won 4 Emmy awards. But yet he turned out the dull stuff he did. He let if affect him - either that or he just didn't try.
Marland, Corday, Phillips and others didn't. You never got uneven shows or the lack of quality in writing and stuff that you do today. They were just more professional - both actors and writers and all. They went to work and did the jobs they were paid to do.
Today they don't.
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Jul 30 2008, 12:42 AM
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I hope the same goes for Tom Casiello.
Why? What did he do that was so terrible?
His dream storyline is to bring on a female character who interacts with everyone but who is troubled and hooks up with Brady Black and goes to Marlena for counseling and eventually we find out it's really Kristen Blake? That's all he needed to say to seal his fate with me LOL And ironically, that cements my absolute adoration for him, LoL.
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Jul 30 2008, 12:45 AM
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Higley back at work? GAG x1000
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