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Dena Higley QUITS — SUDS REPORT EXCLUSIVE; Breaking News — TVGC; ATWT actor FIRED
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Topic Started: Jul 26 2008, 06:10 PM (133,352 Views)
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Jul 31 2008, 11:31 AM
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No shows really listen to their fans.
I know the ABC execs have assistants who cruise the message boards for them and only report back what fans like - not hate.
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Jul 31 2008, 11:43 AM
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NBC does listen to some of its fans, Tom C and KR said that the higher ups pay very close attention to the lousy NBC board, and I believe it because a lot things that are said on there materialize on screen.
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Jul 31 2008, 11:47 AM
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This is a bit off topic and regarding the 3 page article about Days in the new SOD. First is the article about Bope's surprise wedding vows renewal. Next is an interview with Joe Mascolo. Lastly, a very short interview with Tamara Braun and Drake Hogestyn.
Someone PM'd me about any J&M info and there really isn't anything but one quote by Higley saying the threat of Stefano will bring J&M "emotionally back together". That quote comes out of nowhere. So what I'm getting at is, the article seems to be chopped up, in that, there are two quotes from Higley, although she is not introduced in the article. If I were a betting woman I would say Higley was interviewed for the article but her complete text was not published. Something went wrong. Possibly she asked to be pulled out of the interview and the editors didn't take everything out. A good interview contains introductions to whom is speaking. Higley is not mentioned, although the mag credits her with two, small, short sentences.
Joe Mascolo mentions Higley's name as he talks about the change of writers since Stefano was put in the coma. Then, out of the blue, we get a Higley quote (no introduction to her or reference to her as being interviewed) about J&M - "(Stefano's return will bring J&M) emotionally back together, then..."
Then, nothing! The article goes on to talk about Tamara Braun's departure. Braun saying she felt Ava really fell for John, etc. Drake comes on to say how much he'll miss Tamara. Then at the very end of the article this, suddenly - out of no where - "Since Ava (Braun) sneaks away in the night, the door is open for a return. And I hope she does," says Higley."
So sorry to be such a tight-ass about things like this, but that's how I am. If anyone else reads the article and actually sees that I've missed something let me know. :wtf:
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Jul 31 2008, 11:55 AM
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- Jul 31 2008, 10:24 AM
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- Jul 31 2008, 09:10 AM
You know after reading upcoming spoilers about Steffy...I am starting to think I may actually like the work of ED and PET....If Higs wrote what I saw the other day when I tuned in I am sorry, but she stinks and did need tweaking with her work. I have heard it said before that Higs is a lazy writer and to me much of what has taken place over the summer is very lazy storytelling....I can see why ED may have been desperate to stop her before she put us all into acoma like Steffy's.
I am actually feeling some hope about the coming weeks....But I am very SAD that Higs is not gone. The woman came in with a bang, then got bored and began to just twang. I think I'd prefer JER over her...And that mountain was one I was so happy to hear got moved out of Salem yrs back....but so far everyone else since has either pissed me off more, or bored me to death with their sls....Not good....Not Good at all.
i agree if ali did take part in this i would not blame her one bit, especially if it gets me being able to tune in every single day again, i really miss my show, but as a fan i want to be heard. shutting down the mailroom and ignoring the very people who make or break you doesnt seem like a great idea, if its true and ali made changes and in two weeks from now i get ej and sami having an intimate moment i will not only applaud her i will encourage it to continue...no matter how unethical it might be....the person writing the last two months has created a ratings fiasco...they needed to be stopped...whoever it was...
I'm fairy certain that wouldn't be the direction Ali would take the story if she had any say in the matter. I have heard something similar about AS' personal choice about whom she wants to be paired with. And there isn't an E or a J in his name ;)
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Jul 31 2008, 12:06 PM
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- Jul 31 2008, 11:31 AM
No shows really listen to their fans. They may not spend a lot of time reading letters, but Y&R does listen to their fans via the ratings or other ways. One of the many reasons I believe Y&R is so successful is because the moment their ratings begin to slip, they make changes (smart ones). They just went through a period of poor writing and a drop in ratings reflected that. However, in the last couple weeks the show has shown great improvement and their ratings are already showing that.
For whatever reason, DAYS hasn't listened to the voice of their viewers (via ratings, the net, letters, etc.) for several years now. I don't believe viewers should dictate the show, but when it becomes as clear as it's been for DAYS that viewers are so unhappy that they're tuning out, changes have to be made. Throughout the last 3 writing teams, changes have been made, but they haven't been the right changes and bringing Higley back wasn't exactly one of their brightest decisions :angry:
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Jul 31 2008, 12:09 PM
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- Jul 31 2008, 08:43 AM
I'm a little confused as I havent' been to the board in a few days. I got a PM saying that the rumor about AS was "she's blond and no loser". that tells me the opposite of what everyone is saying about her being the diva. Saying that she's "no loser" is telling me that it's NOT AS, but another blond. Have we not gotten anymore news from nelson? I thought the same way you do. I don't get why everyone is so sure it's her. It means the opposite to me. I feel bad for all the unjustified mudslinging going her way. Certainly haven't seen the writing going her way either, unlike a lot of others that I just don't get.
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Jul 31 2008, 12:09 PM
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Thanks for the info about the article Jonatha. J&M back together, "emotionally"? I'll believe it when I see it.
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Jul 31 2008, 12:09 PM
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- Jul 31 2008, 11:47 AM
This is a bit off topic and regarding the 3 page article about Days in the new SOD. First is the article about Bope's surprise wedding vows renewal. Next is an interview with Joe Mascolo. Lastly, a very short interview with Tamara Braun and Drake Hogestyn. Someone PM'd me about any J&M info and there really isn't anything but one quote by Higley saying the threat of Stefano will bring J&M "emotionally back together". That quote comes out of nowhere. So what I'm getting at is, the article seems to be chopped up, in that, there are two quotes from Higley, although she is not introduced in the article. If I were a betting woman I would say Higley was interviewed for the article but her complete text was not published. Something went wrong. Possibly she asked to be pulled out of the interview and the editors didn't take everything out. A good interview contains introductions to whom is speaking. Higley is not mentioned, although the mag credits her with two, small, short sentences. Joe Mascolo mentions Higley's name as he talks about the change of writers since Stefano was put in the coma. Then, out of the blue, we get a Higley quote (no introduction to her or reference to her as being interviewed) about J&M - "(Stefano's return will bring J&M) emotionally back together, then..." Then, nothing! The article goes on to talk about Tamara Braun's departure. Braun saying she felt Ava really fell for John, etc. Drake comes on to say how much he'll miss Tamara. Then at the very end of the article this, suddenly - out of no where - "Since Ava (Braun) sneaks away in the night, the door is open for a return. And I hope she does," says Higley." So sorry to be such a tight-ass about things like this, but that's how I am. If anyone else reads the article and actually sees that I've missed something let me know. :wtf: Thanks for the recap, Jonatha. :rockon:
Dena left the interview when she found out that people at SOD are non WGA members. lol j/k
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Jul 31 2008, 12:14 PM
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as has always spoken in a certain frame of time in relation to her character..i do not think she cares who she is paired with, i do think she would feel badly if bryan were written off the show..but that is show biz..at recent fan events she has been somewhat surprised by the apparent lack of enthusiasm for the lumi pairing though..since she was always in the greenville cocoon and who the fans there preferred..but in getting out to different events she has come in close contact with the big fan base that prefers ejami..
so i think to assume we can read her mind is a bit silly.
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Jul 31 2008, 12:23 PM
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After all... tomorrow is another day!
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And while it took 174 pages to get here... here comes the Lumi-Ejami debate. I guess this thread is OFFICIALLY dead.
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Jul 31 2008, 12:25 PM
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What many people (viewers & TPTB) tend to fail to realize is that listening to fans' comments verbatum and acting on those directives specifacally is far different than being able to read between the lines and seeing what the comments *really* mean. Just because fans are pissed isn't exactly a bad thing and there is a definite skill in being able to determine between happy fans and angry fans and the positives/negatives of each. Believe it or not, sometimes happy fans are a negative while angry fans are a positive. One story in particular that I know of illustrates this point *very* well. Way back when in the early 1970s on AW, HW Harding Lemay decided to break up solid married couple John & Pat Randolph who were fan favorites. John had an affair and Pat began to drink. Irna Phillips nearly had a coronary and told him he couldn't do it because the Randolphs were a tent-pole couple -- they *had* to be together. Lemay ignored her. Fans went into a tizzy. And ratings went up. John & Pat eventually got back together, but separated again and *never* got back together (John ended up killed in a fire a few years later). There's a big difference between what fans say and what they really mean (whether they know they mean it or not).
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Jul 31 2008, 12:25 PM
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- mesagirl
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- Jul 31 2008, 09:10 AM
You know after reading upcoming spoilers about Steffy...I am starting to think I may actually like the work of ED and PET....If Higs wrote what I saw the other day when I tuned in I am sorry, but she stinks and did need tweaking with her work. I have heard it said before that Higs is a lazy writer and to me much of what has taken place over the summer is very lazy storytelling....I can see why ED may have been desperate to stop her before she put us all into acoma like Steffy's.
I am actually feeling some hope about the coming weeks....But I am very SAD that Higs is not gone. The woman came in with a bang, then got bored and began to just twang. I think I'd prefer JER over her...And that mountain was one I was so happy to hear got moved out of Salem yrs back....but so far everyone else since has either pissed me off more, or bored me to death with their sls....Not good....Not Good at all.
i agree if ali did take part in this i would not blame her one bit, especially if it gets me being able to tune in every single day again, i really miss my show, but as a fan i want to be heard. shutting down the mailroom and ignoring the very people who make or break you doesnt seem like a great idea, if its true and ali made changes and in two weeks from now i get ej and sami having an intimate moment i will not only applaud her i will encourage it to continue...no matter how unethical it might be....the person writing the last two months has created a ratings fiasco...they needed to be stopped...whoever it was...
I'm fairy certain that wouldn't be the direction Ali would take the story if she had any say in the matter.
I have heard something similar about AS' personal choice about whom she wants to be paired with. And there isn't an E or a J in his name ;) :lol:
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- Jul 31 2008, 11:47 AM
This is a bit off topic and regarding the 3 page article about Days in the new SOD. First is the article about Bope's surprise wedding vows renewal. Next is an interview with Joe Mascolo. Lastly, a very short interview with Tamara Braun and Drake Hogestyn. Someone PM'd me about any J&M info and there really isn't anything but one quote by Higley saying the threat of Stefano will bring J&M "emotionally back together". That quote comes out of nowhere. So what I'm getting at is, the article seems to be chopped up, in that, there are two quotes from Higley, although she is not introduced in the article. If I were a betting woman I would say Higley was interviewed for the article but her complete text was not published. Something went wrong. Possibly she asked to be pulled out of the interview and the editors didn't take everything out. A good interview contains introductions to whom is speaking. Higley is not mentioned, although the mag credits her with two, small, short sentences. Joe Mascolo mentions Higley's name as he talks about the change of writers since Stefano was put in the coma. Then, out of the blue, we get a Higley quote (no introduction to her or reference to her as being interviewed) about J&M - "(Stefano's return will bring J&M) emotionally back together, then..." Then, nothing! The article goes on to talk about Tamara Braun's departure. Braun saying she felt Ava really fell for John, etc. Drake comes on to say how much he'll miss Tamara. Then at the very end of the article this, suddenly - out of no where - "Since Ava (Braun) sneaks away in the night, the door is open for a return. And I hope she does," says Higley." So sorry to be such a tight-ass about things like this, but that's how I am. If anyone else reads the article and actually sees that I've missed something let me know. :wtf: I used to be an editor, and it's not uncommon (but very embarrassing) for an editor to have to edit an article for space reasons. When that happens, there are times when an introductory line is cut and the first name or title is not added back into the story. I wouldn't read anything more into the article than that.
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I'm a little confused as I havent' been to the board in a few days. I got a PM saying that the rumor about AS was "she's blond and no loser". that tells me the opposite of what everyone is saying about her being the diva. Saying that she's "no loser" is telling me that it's NOT AS, but another blond. Have we not gotten anymore news from nelson?
I thought the same way you do. I don't get why everyone is so sure it's her. It means the opposite to me. I feel bad for all the unjustified mudslinging going her way. Certainly haven't seen the writing going her way either, unlike a lot of others that I just don't get. People in this thread did not want to name AS so they gave clues as to who the real actress was purpoted to be. One of the clues was that the "overblown Diva" was a blond and indeed not a loser (in real life AS is not a loser although she is on the show). This was a clue that it was AS with the pun being loser from the show "Biggest Loser". It was a sarcastic clue but the clue was so that people would know it was AS!
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Jul 31 2008, 12:28 PM
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So i have tried to read through this thread, but there are not enough hours in the day lol What is the gist of the story now of what happened? I don't need to know the name of the actress, just what the latest story is that is said to have happened now. Thank you! :)
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Jul 31 2008, 12:35 PM
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This is a bit off topic and regarding the 3 page article about Days in the new SOD. First is the article about Bope's surprise wedding vows renewal. Next is an interview with Joe Mascolo. Lastly, a very short interview with Tamara Braun and Drake Hogestyn. Someone PM'd me about any J&M info and there really isn't anything but one quote by Higley saying the threat of Stefano will bring J&M "emotionally back together". That quote comes out of nowhere. So what I'm getting at is, the article seems to be chopped up, in that, there are two quotes from Higley, although she is not introduced in the article. If I were a betting woman I would say Higley was interviewed for the article but her complete text was not published. Something went wrong. Possibly she asked to be pulled out of the interview and the editors didn't take everything out. A good interview contains introductions to whom is speaking. Higley is not mentioned, although the mag credits her with two, small, short sentences. Joe Mascolo mentions Higley's name as he talks about the change of writers since Stefano was put in the coma. Then, out of the blue, we get a Higley quote (no introduction to her or reference to her as being interviewed) about J&M - "(Stefano's return will bring J&M) emotionally back together, then..." Then, nothing! The article goes on to talk about Tamara Braun's departure. Braun saying she felt Ava really fell for John, etc. Drake comes on to say how much he'll miss Tamara. Then at the very end of the article this, suddenly - out of no where - "Since Ava (Braun) sneaks away in the night, the door is open for a return. And I hope she does," says Higley." So sorry to be such a tight-ass about things like this, but that's how I am. If anyone else reads the article and actually sees that I've missed something let me know. :wtf: Who was writing when Stefano went into his coma? I thought it was during the strike but they were using Sheffer's stockpiled scripts.
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Jul 31 2008, 12:41 PM
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so i think to assume we can read her mind is a bit silly. Exactly, bann!!! I think she is a great actress and very commited to her craft. I'm not one of those who thinks she is behind the re-writes. She's always seemed so professional, I just can't see her going against the grain. I can however see how she would be sickened by how her character has been written over the last couple of months.
This whole story is starting to smell a little fishy anyway. It's been awhile since we've had any new news.
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Jul 31 2008, 12:45 PM
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Yeah, I do not for one minute buy that we know who ALi wants to be paired with...I am sure she just wants someone for her character...As of late Sami has sort of vanished off screen.
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Jul 31 2008, 12:51 PM
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- Jul 31 2008, 12:25 PM
What many people (viewers & TPTB) tend to fail to realize is that listening to fans' comments verbatum and acting on those directives specifacally is far different than being able to read between the lines and seeing what the comments *really* mean. Just because fans are pissed isn't exactly a bad thing and there is a definite skill in being able to determine between happy fans and angry fans and the positives/negatives of each. Believe it or not, sometimes happy fans are a negative while angry fans are a positive. One story in particular that I know of illustrates this point *very* well. Way back when in the early 1970s on AW, HW Harding Lemay decided to break up solid married couple John & Pat Randolph who were fan favorites. John had an affair and Pat began to drink. Irna Phillips nearly had a coronary and told him he couldn't do it because the Randolphs were a tent-pole couple -- they *had* to be together. Lemay ignored her. Fans went into a tizzy. And ratings went up. John & Pat eventually got back together, but separated again and *never* got back together (John ended up killed in a fire a few years later). There's a big difference between what fans say and what they really mean (whether they know they mean it or not). Exactly. The problem with Days is that tptb don't know how to listen, they just take the fans literally, which results in really choppy writing. Safer to not even try to listen to fans, especially since Days fans are particulary...intense about their favorites.
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Jul 31 2008, 12:57 PM
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- Jul 31 2008, 12:23 PM
And while it took 174 pages to get here... here comes the Lumi-Ejami debate. I guess this thread is OFFICIALLY dead. There's a Lumi-EJami debate? What's it about? Sounds interesting! :wink:
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