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Dena Higley QUITS — SUDS REPORT EXCLUSIVE; Breaking News — TVGC; ATWT actor FIRED
Topic Started: Jul 26 2008, 06:10 PM (133,431 Views)
Jonatha


Dragonish1
Jul 28 2008, 12:04 PM
Jonatha
Jul 28 2008, 12:01 PM
Dragonish1
Jul 28 2008, 11:55 AM
e83talus
Jul 28 2008, 11:49 AM
I don't think it is Deidre as she has said for 20 + years that people who are far smarter than she are charged with writing for Marlena. I can't see her all of a sudden after 30+ years on this show to walk into the Producers office and demand to write for charcters and then to write awfully for her and Drake.

Lets review when things went topsy turvy. This would be the week of May sweeps. By the first week in June:

Ejami was apart
J&M were apart and Marlena was shipped to Colorado for the second time in a month.
Java starts.
Max is angry, adopted and in love with Stephanie heated up.
Dansea fell in love.
Payla had their baby and disappeared with the big white elephant in their room that was Steva almost making love to Ava.
Lucas returns and turns to Chole.
Phillip drops Chloe and falls instantly for Morgan.
Bope are the environment police.

None of these twists in s/l' or direction have been good for any of the vet Diva's so I can't see it being them. MBE, Deidre, and KA are either barely on or being written horribly. Who would voluntarily do that to their character?
This exactly when the show went to shit...I think this is when all of ED's stuff began to appear. The show rated high then fell with a huge ass thud. I can not even bare to watch it anymore.
Just adding to that, D. We all remember Dee Hall's interview in SOD when she thought the big love scene (that was already taped) between Nu-John and Marlena was going to actually happen. That was a total let-down. We should have guessed right there and then something was very much amiss. That was my WTF moment.
Yes , that was very shocking to all of us. Here we have a scene, a scene even recapped by the actors in a mag and ...poof....nothing airs...very weird, very weird indeed.
Fuck, I've been reading the soap mags for decades and never, ever, have I read an exclusive column about something that's going to happen stopped as dead in it's tracks as that storyline was. :shame:
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cjknick
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My heads starting to hurt...

The female character who has been on non-stop is Stephanie but I can't see Shelly being the one especially since she was asked if she could speak French by the writer's?

Nadia ... well if it was Nadia you would think she would write herself a love scene with EJ not Lucas! :lol:

So now I'm back to Rachel and MBE!
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Kevc1980
Jul 28 2008, 12:03 PM
I'm still in Ed corner..Seeing how bad the show was during Higley's first run..I have no doubt she would have gotten us to that level again..And while the show isn't great now, maybe Ed have saved it...And i don't need to be told about it being unethical...
Ed is a very very good producer, I'll give him that, but as much as I don't like to keep repeating myself here, if he did not like Higley's writing THAT MUCH he could have just fired her! I mean, its better than doing THIS! The second WGA legal problem they've gotten themselves into in four months.
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Kenny
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I'm still pissed at the idea of one of the actresses going around the studio, bragging to everyone that she's the headwriter with Ed Scott. I mean, ego much?!
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hmmmmm....Very interesting observation Mary. Chan is alot like a would be affair between ED and Melvin...and it was Melvin the blind item said was the mistress of the producer....eww
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Kenny
Jul 28 2008, 12:08 PM
I'm still pissed at the idea of one of the actresses going around the studio, bragging to everyone that she's the headwriter with Ed Scott. I mean, ego much?!
Me too and I hope that actress gets canned big time.
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The way taht the "veteran" leads like Marlena, Hope & Kayla have been written of late and even Sami kind of on the outerfringe now tells me it is someone younger and she wants to push the "veteran" leads out. You look at the ones who have come to the forefront - Nicole with EJ; Ava with John; and Chloe with Lucas.

Sami lost both of her men almost while these other ladies got men and the veteran ladies are on the outs.

Sounds like this little diva not only wanted to push Higley out but maybe even teh vet ladies too. They have definitely been pushed out of the story.

Higley loved Sami and it has shocked me what has been done with Sami in the last month or so. She hardly even gets any hype in the spoilers and stuff I read.
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Jonatha


cjknick
Jul 28 2008, 12:07 PM
My heads starting to hurt...

The female character who has been on non-stop is Stephanie but I can't see Shelly being the one especially since she was asked if she could speak French by the writer's?

Nadia ... well if it was Nadia you would think she would write herself a love scene with EJ not Lucas! :lol:

So now I'm back to Rachel and MBE!
There are rumors, just rumors, that Nadia didn't want the hook up between Lucas and Chloe. Just rumors, kids. I'm thinking it's RM as well.
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sitrian


Does he have the power to fire the head writer?

Did he go to Corday and say "we need to get this taken care of"?

He's championing somebody now so it seems like he does want a new head writer.

And how much rewriting was done. I would really like to see where his side of this story comes in because I think the truth will lie somewhere in between the sides.
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Kenny
Jul 28 2008, 12:08 PM
I'm still pissed at the idea of one of the actresses going around the studio, bragging to everyone that she's the headwriter with Ed Scott. I mean, ego much?!
Oh too true, and it was such a dumb move considering they could out her and Ed to the WGA at any time.
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pnelsen


Having met MBE, she is like the least likely candidate to be a diva. She is so down to earth. Definitely cross her off the list.
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Ellie


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Jul 28 2008, 11:39 AM
Tom, your 15 minutes ARE UP. Sorry, I know some of you like the guy, but he completely rubs me the wrong way. This story doesn't involve him at all, other than that he's also a writer.

Thanks Nelson for posting this. I do give the actors and Ed credit for trying to improve on Higley's writing. Of course, if Corday hadn't rehired Higley, with her less-than-stellar resume, none of this would have happened. I can't even imagine how bad her stories were before the rewrites. (And yes, I'm absolutely convinced they were worse than what we're seeing.)

lol my only other comment is what photographic evidence is there? People sitting with a pen and paper?

And by the way - I cringed as soon as I read the word 'diva', because like it or not, the soap press does sometimes use that word for Deidre, and she was sometimes referred to as a diva in the 80's. It's not her. Let's not forget that there's a whole new generation of divas now, lol - and I'm sure Nelson is talking about one of them.
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IMissAremid
Jul 28 2008, 12:05 PM
I'm fairly certain that the two others to rewrite their story is Steven and Mary Beth, but I'm not sure about the overblown diva.

It could be...

-Deidre, if only because Nelson used the term diva to describe her in the next paragraph. I don't buy that so much though because I can't fathom why an actor would write such an awful story (or non-story) for herself.
-Nadia Bjorlin, as Chloe is a real opera diva, but if she is the one going to Ed asking for different scene partners that I don't understand as I don't know why she would want out of JKJ's orbit and ask to be inserted in the Ejamicas mess by having Chloe take up with Lucas.
-Rachel Melvin, because we do know that her and Blake Berris had a falling out before she became paired up with Shawn Christian. If Ed and her were having an affair and were running the show, that would explain why Rachel was given this other love interest and Blake was backburnered and also why we were shoved the Chelsea-Dan pairing down our throats for so long if they were playing out their own affair on screen thus were the only people not grossed out/annoyed by it. Didn't we have a blind item not that long ago that their was a Days starlet that came out of nowhere to dominate the show and that the actress was getting a big coke problem?

My feeling is Melvin.
i completely agree. nick and the pairing with chelsea was well-recieved. all of a sudden, nick is gone and we get a new, controversial pairing with an older man? yup, i'm pretty sure something is going on there. that coupled with the BI tells me it's rachel that's the overblown diva. diedre, i feel, would have written the whole java mess differently if she had been involved. neither nadia or marybeth have recieved nearly enough screentime for them to be considered a pet of anyone. when you add in the coke rumor, it's blatantly obvious. sorry, the actresses on the soap are all thin, but in my estimation, only one of them is coke-thin.

ETA: morgan is out, at least as far as the BI goes. it stated that the actess in question had over a hundred episodes under their belt. kristen wasn't close at that time, although she may be now.
Edited by luvpumpkns, Jul 28 2008, 12:20 PM.
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jdawg1077


First-time poster.

I think we need to read between the lines of Nelson's various reports and posts. As a reporter, he's limited in what he can factually tell us, but if you look at how he wrote his report, and his other various postings, and then throw in some blind items, you can get a picture of what might have happened.

First, we only have Higley's side of the story. No one else's, as per Nelson's report. I'm sure in the coming hours/days, we'll get more information, so this is most likely just the beginning. Keep an eye out for any cast firings as well.

Second, we can possibly put together that Ed Scott might be cheating on his wife (hence the reason that Nelson said how the story affects Y&R since he's married to Melody Thomas Scott, hence the sadness in his tone) with a younger actress on Days who apparently is getting more screen time. To me, the answer would be either Kristen Renton or Nadia Bjorlin, if I was speculating. I'm leaning towards Kristen Renton, because for a minor character she has really shot up the charts in terms of airtime for a character who doesn't have many ties to major characters. They even created a father for her, and it seems like they are laying the groundwork for introducing her mother. If she's gotten a big head due to her new screentime, she could fit the "overblown diva" bill. I doubt it's Rachel Melvin because she's had a ton of screentime for over 2 years now. The items seemed to suggest that this person has had a lot of screentime out of nowhere. But I hope that's not the case because I do like Morgan and Kristen in that role.

As for actors given permission to re-write, I would say that's Stephen Nichols and Mary Beth Evans, but in that case it was justified. They were never provided any closure on the Ava front. Ed Scott and the actors decided to finally address it, and rightfully so.

The other reason I believe that this is all true is the abrupt turn of EJ's character, and the end of his on-again off-again flirtation with Sami. The sudden animosity between the two was out of nowhere, and I think it was probably Ed Scott's doing, although in that case I agree with him again. Any potential for EJ and Sami as a couple was ruined a year and a half ago when EJ held a gun to Sami's head and forced her to have sex. I think that having them sleep together was the last straw for the actors and Ed Scott, but there really isn't any evidence to back that up.

I think Ed Scott's influence, this time in a bad way, can also be seen in the autism story. It's been treated as an afterthought in some ways. Occasional scenes here and there. Nothing serious. I certainly hope that the reveal of Theo's autism (being pushed offscreen) was not sabotaged because it was a Higley story. Again, no evidence of that, but given the apparent disparity between what is written and what is on the screen, it can't be ruled out.

But overall, if Higley's side of the story is true, then it's sad for everyone involved. The writing wasn't good enough so people took it upon themselves to make things better, but it got out of hand. Everyone looks bad. And Ken Corday ends up looking like Captain Smith of the Titanic. Aloof, oblivious. But he has the opportunity to regain control and right the ship, so I hope he does so.
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brimike


Are the nbc boards really down? Strange coincidence.
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Steve Frame
Jul 28 2008, 11:55 AM
Again the almost hypocrisy with some fans I am seeing on boards is weird and so funny.

When Corday seemingly pulled this coup with Higley to save Days from Hogan, fans were outraged.

Now the same fans are praising Scott for doing the same thing in a similar underhanded way to save the show from Higley.

But I think honestly corday had the show's best interest at heart, but I think Scott was just thinking with his pecker.

Albeit Corday even though he wants best for the show doesn't know how to get it.
I agree Steve. It has been like that ever since Ed Scott joined and Higley came back.
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sitrian


Yeah... and seriously... like how... because actors, producers, direcotrs make changes... so somebody with a pen would hardly be damning evidence. I suppose video of them rewriting a script could be what's alluded to here?

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a thought just popped in my mind in the other thread on this. This could all boil down to simply an "All About Eve" situation. A good old classic story of a young diva trying to get ahead in the entertainment industry and conniving and scheming and using whoever she can to get ahead.

Anne Baxter used her feminine wiles on men in that movie to get them to do her bidding and she became a star because of it.

In the end that may be all this is about and really nothing to do with anyone trying to save the show - just a young actress trying to get ahead. It happens all the time in Hollywood - it's as common as the casting couch.
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Kenny
Jul 28 2008, 12:08 PM
I'm still pissed at the idea of one of the actresses going around the studio, bragging to everyone that she's the headwriter with Ed Scott. I mean, ego much?!
Exactly and I can't see MBE, Deidre or KA doing this. This would be completely out of left field for the veterans of the industry! Ali has been filming two shows and I would have to ask where she found the time to write in between the two shows, her pregnancy and this. I just don't think it is any of them.
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IMissAremid
Jul 28 2008, 12:05 PM
If Ed and her were having an affair and were running the show, that would explain why Rachel was given this other love interest and Blake was backburnered and also why we were shoved the Chelsea-Dan pairing down our throats for so long if they were playing out their own affair on screen thus were the only people not grossed out/annoyed by it.
A big ole "ewwww!" to that one.
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