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Dena Higley QUITS — SUDS REPORT EXCLUSIVE; Breaking News — TVGC; ATWT actor FIRED
Topic Started: Jul 26 2008, 06:10 PM (133,430 Views)
Jonatha


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Jul 28 2008, 12:15 PM
First-time poster.

I think we need to read between the lines of Nelson's various reports and posts. As a reporter, he's limited in what he can factually tell us, but if you look at how he wrote his report, and his other various postings, and then throw in some blind items, you can get a picture of what might have happened.

First, we only have Higley's side of the story. No one else's, as per Nelson's report. I'm sure in the coming hours/days, we'll get more information, so this is most likely just the beginning. Keep an eye out for any cast firings as well.

Second, we can possibly put together that Ed Scott might be cheating on his wife (hence the reason that Nelson said how the story affects Y&R since he's married to Melody Thomas Scott, hence the sadness in his tone) with a younger actress on Days who apparently is getting more screen time. To me, the answer would be either Kristen Renton or Nadia Bjorlin, if I was speculating. I'm leaning towards Kristen Renton, because for a minor character she has really shot up the charts in terms of airtime for a character who doesn't have many ties to major characters. They even created a father for her, and it seems like they are laying the groundwork for introducing her mother. If she's gotten a big head due to her new screentime, she could fit the "overblown diva" bill. I doubt it's Rachel Melvin because she's had a ton of screentime for over 2 years now. The items seemed to suggest that this person has had a lot of screentime out of nowhere. But I hope that's not the case because I do like Morgan and Kristen in that role.

As for actors given permission to re-write, I would say that's Stephen Nichols and Mary Beth Evans, but in that case it was justified. They were never provided any closure on the Ava front. Ed Scott and the actors decided to finally address it, and rightfully so.

The other reason I believe that this is all true is the abrupt turn of EJ's character, and the end of his on-again off-again flirtation with Sami. The sudden animosity between the two was out of nowhere, and I think it was probably Ed Scott's doing, although in that case I agree with him again. Any potential for EJ and Sami as a couple was ruined a year and a half ago when EJ held a gun to Sami's head and forced her to have sex. I think that having them sleep together was the last straw for the actors and Ed Scott, but there really isn't any evidence to back that up.

I think Ed Scott's influence, this time in a bad way, can also be seen in the autism story. It's been treated as an afterthought in some ways. Occasional scenes here and there. Nothing serious. I certainly hope that the reveal of Theo's autism (being pushed offscreen) was not sabotaged because it was a Higley story. Again, no evidence of that, but given the apparent disparity between what is written and what is on the screen, it can't be ruled out.

But overall, if Higley's side of the story is true, then it's sad for everyone involved. The writing wasn't good enough so people took it upon themselves to make things better, but it got out of hand. Everyone looks bad. And Ken Corday ends up looking like Captain Smith of the Titanic. Aloof, oblivious. But he has the opportunity to regain control and right the ship, so I hope he does so.
Welcome to all new posters and new members of DR. We are enjoying all of your input. :applause:
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leelee
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Wonder what MTS thinks about all of this if she's read/heard about it?
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brimike
Jul 28 2008, 12:15 PM
Are the nbc boards really down? Strange coincidence.
Exactly. I posted that NBC was down like 30 mins ago and no one answered me. I thought it was only me and I kept trying. LOL!

I bet they are trying to cover it up or something.
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sitrian
Jul 28 2008, 12:10 PM
Does he have the power to fire the head writer?

Did he go to Corday and say "we need to get this taken care of"?

He's championing somebody now so it seems like he does want a new head writer.
That's the other thing that doesn't add up. Corday owns the show and is supposedly in Dena's camp. I could see Scott constantly interfering but it seems highly implausible that he'd have the clout to veto every one of her stories and totally sideline her writing team.

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Jonatha


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Jul 28 2008, 12:15 PM
Are the nbc boards really down? Strange coincidence.
Yes, they are down. Maybe Terry got completely worried and paranoid about his teen crushes and went nuts thinking his imaginary world is about to change in some way. :tounge:
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Ponz
Jul 28 2008, 11:59 AM
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Jul 28 2008, 11:48 AM
Kevc1980
Jul 28 2008, 11:46 AM
This just makes me think that Dena's actual scripts and stories must have been so horrible that Ed and some of the actors just couldn't bare to put it on the screen..So they tweaked stuff, and while the show isn't great now...Its probably better than what Dena would have given us..Maybe she planned to bring the goop back and have Tony run Club Echlon...And give Steve and Kayla In The House..

That still doesn't change the underhandedness of all of this and the fact that Ed Scott had NON-UNION people rewriting the work of WGA members, which isn't legal.
I'm not convinced that the hijacking is as extensive as NB's source implies. There's a difference between producers/actors serving as de-facto headwriters and them providing input or tweaking the writers' scripts. It's conceivable that someone with a pro-Higley agenda would imply the former as opposed to the latter.
Which is why I want to know more before adamantly saying Ed Scott should lose his job. This could only be one side of the issue. We don't know the extent to which stuff was re-written and so on. Tweaking happens all the time and, as I said, I'm sure EP's interfere all the time. We know they do. It's been happening on Days alone for years. It's not right no matter how you slice it but it happens.

I'm not trying to defend Ed. I just want to make sure this isn't just Higley making shit up. This is the same woman who returned to the HW's seat in a very unsavory manner so anything is possible.

The one thing that is clear is this show is in alot of trouble. This is only just the beginning. People will lose their jobs. I fear for what will be left when the smoke clears.
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So here is what I think it is:

1. Dena writes shit. We all know this.
2. Ed Scott reads the shit, and goes "Shit, this is shit!" So he tweaks it some.
3. Dena gets pissed. Throws a fit.
4. Ed tells her as long as she keeps writing crap, he'll always try to improve it.

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Ellie
Jul 28 2008, 12:13 PM
Tom, your 15 minutes ARE UP. Sorry, I know some of you like the guy, but he completely rubs me the wrong way. This story doesn't involve him at all, other than that he's also a writer.
I think he's upset because these are his colleagues and he was also shoved out of a job only for this to take place. I'd be pretty pissed, too.
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Jul 28 2008, 12:07 PM
Kevc1980
Jul 28 2008, 12:03 PM
I'm still in Ed corner..Seeing how bad the show was during Higley's first run..I have no doubt she would have gotten us to that level again..And while the show isn't great now, maybe Ed have saved it...And i don't need to be told about it being unethical...
Ed is a very very good producer, I'll give him that, but as much as I don't like to keep repeating myself here, if he did not like Higley's writing THAT MUCH he could have just fired her! I mean, its better than doing THIS! The second WGA legal problem they've gotten themselves into in four months.
He couldn´t fire her, that´s Corday´s job and Dena is his friend. Let´s not forget what Toups said. Scott is not responsible for the writing, but because Corday really doesn´t care about daily production and is almost never in the studio, he probably decided to get involved in that too and to help the show.

Another thing, one of the few interviews Dena did she was happy with the blackout/elevator sex idea.

Also people who say she was good during strike. But that´s because she was hired in November and had time to prepare her stories. But the show slowly started to lose direction, because she obviously wasn´t able to do it all. Plan new stories, control writer meetings and prepare breakdowns.
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sitrian


Seriously and wouldn't it be doing favors to whoever the diva is? MBE has had an hour of airtime in the month of July. And yeah they finally got the fallout scenes and they were great... but 3 months late and 2 days? It's not exactly taking over the show and I haven't seen them in the spoilers as anything more than supporting players after that.

Dee had the forced vacation and one would think that she'd be making Marlena a stronger character not a weaker one.

KA looks smokin hot with the badge pinned to her jeans but since walking around with a badge pinned to her jeans has all she has done since May I don't really see her either.

If it's AS she's clearly a robot who doesn't sleep even when pregnant.

I've got to count those four out.
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The NBC board works for me..it's just slow as hell.
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Tripp
Jul 28 2008, 12:20 PM
So here is what I think it is:

1. Dena writes shit. We all know this.
2. Ed Scott reads the shit, and goes "Shit, this is shit!" So he tweaks it some.
3. Dena gets pissed. Throws a fit.
4. Ed tells her as long as she keeps writing crap, he'll always try to improve it.

I think so too. And it sounds far less earth-shattering when put your way.
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The one reason I sort of doubt Rachel would be the big diva is because she was not in that big Summer of Love/Romance promo, and it seems like Daniel is going to be paired with Kate possibly now that she is also suddenly in his orbit, and where would that leave Rachel?
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Jonatha
Jul 28 2008, 12:19 PM
brimike
Jul 28 2008, 12:15 PM
Are the nbc boards really down? Strange coincidence.
Yes, they are down. Maybe Terry got completely worried and paranoid about his teen crushes and went nuts thinking his imaginary world is about to change in some way. :tounge:
LOL...he's probably busily posting on how the over-blown diva CANNOT be SHELLEY BECAUSE HE LOVES SHELLY AND OMG SHE WOULD NEVER DO SUCH A THING AND SHE IS SO TALENTED AND BEAUTIFUL.


heh heh.
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It actually is earth shattering b/c DAYS is getting investigated by the WGA for the second time in three months.

And it might get sued...again.

DAYS has NOOOO money.

This could put DAYS under.
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sitrian


That's kind of my read too, Tripp.

I'm not saying Ed didn't cross a line and if he did that he shouldn't get some comeuppance for it but this story is clearly one sided and reputation wise I have to give Ed the benefit of the doubt here when I don't have enough information to know what happened.
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I would love to know who is writing their own scenes because most of the dialogue between people have really sucked...so it goes to show how stupid they really are.

I totally rule out Ali Sweeney has her character has been destroyed recently, and she has no story. Dee has been pretty bad too. Tamara left weeks ago, so not her. And don't really see much happening with Nadia coming up, other than waiting on Lucas...which really isn't in her character. And Ari, while having some screen time, really hasn't been on THAT much, and just in EJ/Trent orbit.

So I would either guess Rachel Melvin...who has been acting like a little giddy teenager around an older man which makes me REALLY surprised that someone hasn't stepped up and told her to mature her character a bit...unless Scott really likes it when she does that to HIM. Rachel's character has done a total change in the past few months and has shared screen with all the big vets (Vic, Kate, Bo, Hope) not to mention is the new prodigy at the hospital getting involved in the big Theo story.
Her Emmy might have inflated her ego a bit too...not to mention that all the behind the scenes people just love her. She might just have gotten carried away a bit.

Shelley has been on alot too, but her scenes are so bad and repetitive that I think she would ask for something more for herself.

SN and MBE have already said that they went to the producer and got them to write in the Ava talk...who is to say that didn't write that themselves? And just got carried away?

I loved Casiello's post but thought it funny that he said none of his commentary was about him, but in his recap, it was all about him being hired, writing, fired, etc. He made some excellent points about being strung around and the fans paying for it.
It does seem that the execs are totally taking their audience for granted...and the ratings are showing it.

Thanks, Nelson, brimike et al for the scoop!
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luvpumpkns
Jul 28 2008, 12:23 PM
Jonatha
Jul 28 2008, 12:19 PM
brimike
Jul 28 2008, 12:15 PM
Are the nbc boards really down? Strange coincidence.
Yes, they are down. Maybe Terry got completely worried and paranoid about his teen crushes and went nuts thinking his imaginary world is about to change in some way. :tounge:
LOL...he's probably busily posting on how the over-blown diva CANNOT be SHELLEY BECAUSE HE LOVES SHELLY AND OMG SHE WOULD NEVER DO SUCH A THING AND SHE IS SO TALENTED AND BEAUTIFUL.


heh heh.
AND SHE'S HIS GIRL, NOT YOUR GIRL, HIS GIRL!!! NO ONE ELSES!!
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But Ed's rep is not completely untarnished. As Alvin and I have both pointed out - a writer got him fired before. Kay Alden hates him and she has a great rep and is loved by everyone she works with but Ed Scott.

The reasons back then were not revealed but Kay Alden personally went to Bell and got Scott fired. Bell would not have done that for no reason.

When Bell was writing Scott would have never tried anything like this with the big man, but I am sure he felt he could walk over Alden but she showed him.
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Jonatha


Ponz
Jul 28 2008, 12:26 PM
luvpumpkns
Jul 28 2008, 12:23 PM
Jonatha
Jul 28 2008, 12:19 PM
brimike
Jul 28 2008, 12:15 PM
Are the nbc boards really down? Strange coincidence.
Yes, they are down. Maybe Terry got completely worried and paranoid about his teen crushes and went nuts thinking his imaginary world is about to change in some way. :tounge:
LOL...he's probably busily posting on how the over-blown diva CANNOT be SHELLEY BECAUSE HE LOVES SHELLY AND OMG SHE WOULD NEVER DO SUCH A THING AND SHE IS SO TALENTED AND BEAUTIFUL.


heh heh.
AND SHE'S HIS GIRL, NOT YOUR GIRL, HIS GIRL!!! NO ONE ELSES!!
OMG, you have that right. It's good to have a laugh at this point.
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