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Dena Higley QUITS — SUDS REPORT EXCLUSIVE; Breaking News — TVGC; ATWT actor FIRED
Topic Started: Jul 26 2008, 06:10 PM (133,422 Views)
OneBadKitty
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Jeez, now what?

Does NBC come in and pull the plug?

Does Corday dismiss Ed, the pet actress and Higley?

Is it really a good idea to hire another writer, especially one that I gather is already being investigated by the WGA?

No one is getting out of this without a lot of shit stuck to the soles of their shoes.

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hunterforrester
Jul 28 2008, 02:12 PM
Yes, because actors writing STORYLINES, not dialogue, is a HUGE INFRACTION against Guild LAWS.
I'm confused as to how an altered script would constitute evidence of that, though. Changing the long-term direction of a story as opposed to dialogue requires intervention much earlier in the writing process (i.e. outlines and breakdowns). It can't be accomplished merely by taking a red pen to a script.
Edited by Ponz, Jul 28 2008, 02:23 PM.
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Mitchapalooza
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^ My face watching DAYS

NBC may just decide all this is just not worth it WHATSOEVER and pull the plug. If negotiations are still on going, this no doubt is going to cast a HUGE cloud over that and raise some eyebrows with NBC executives.

Then again, they may enjoy this and see it is an oppourtunity to gain interest and buzz about the show.
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Jiggs
Jul 28 2008, 02:17 PM
jdawg1077
Jul 28 2008, 02:11 PM
hunterforrester
Jul 28 2008, 02:02 PM
the scripts with Ed's — and the top star's — changes! Someone turned them in!
The use of the term "top star" is interesting, because it throws my Kristen Renton theory out the window. She might have gotten a lot more screentime lately, but no one would ever call her a top star at this point. When I think of "top stars" at Days, I think of Deidre, Drake, Peter, Kristian, Stephen, or Mary Beth. But I could be wrong. Now I'm thinking more along the lines of Nadia Bjorlin.

On a side note, I haven't felt this catty in *ages*...
When I think of Days top star, I think Alison Sweeney. She's all over the NBC site.
And IF it is her, I called that shit WAY before the news broke out....page thirtysomething.... :laugh: AND that WOULD be the worst person possible to be linked to this....she (and her growing family) have the most to lose from this, not to mention I would never be able to look at her in the same way. So, let's hope it's NOT Ali.
Edited by Pearly, Jul 28 2008, 02:28 PM.
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Mitchapalooza
Jul 28 2008, 02:24 PM
NBC may just decide all this is just not worth it WHATSOEVER and pull the plug. If negotiations are still on going, this no doubt is going to cast a HUGE cloud over that and raise some eyebrows with NBC executives.

Then again, they may enjoy this and see it is an oppourtunity to gain interest and buzz about the show.
It's definitely gaining some buzz. :shithitfan:
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Ponz
Jul 28 2008, 02:22 PM
hunterforrester
Jul 28 2008, 02:12 PM
Yes, because actors writing STORYLINES, not dialogue, is a HUGE INFRACTION against Guild LAWS.
I'm confused as to how an altered script would constitute evidence of that, though. Changing the long-term direction of a story as opposed to dialogue requires intervention much earlier in the writing process (i.e. outlines and breakdowns). It can't be accomplished merely by taking a red pen to a script.
That's a very good point, Ponz. Changing storyline would mean changing sets and even what actors are in a scene.
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Mitchapalooza
Jul 28 2008, 02:24 PM

Then again, they may enjoy this and see it is an oppourtunity to gain interest and buzz about the show.
You have a point. NBC doesn't always come across as having much class when it comes to programs (Baby Borrowers and American Gladiators comes to mind, as do a few of their other "winners")...so they might just take advantage of this crazy drama behind the scenes and keep promoting it to see if it gets ratings.

The surprise is that it is pissing off more fans than ever before. They are totally ruining our show with all this discord.
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Ponz
Jul 28 2008, 02:22 PM
hunterforrester
Jul 28 2008, 02:12 PM
Yes, because actors writing STORYLINES, not dialogue, is a HUGE INFRACTION against Guild LAWS.
I'm confused as to how an altered script would constitute evidence of that, though. Changing the long-term direction of a story as opposed to dialogue requires intervention much earlier in the writing process (i.e. outlines and breakdowns). It can't be accomplished merely by taking a red pen to a script.
And also, scripts on paper don't mean anything really. Anyone can write anything and type anyone's name. I'm not saying that here but what you need is the digital copy that was transferred back and forth. You can go into the info of a word document and see the name of the person who created it (assuming WOrd was setup with the right name) as well as file locations of where the file was stored. If that comes across showing Ed's notebook was used and he edited it at times he knew he was on his PC, then that is proof.

Not a typed page with a person's name on it.
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Tripp
Jul 28 2008, 02:29 PM
Ponz
Jul 28 2008, 02:22 PM
hunterforrester
Jul 28 2008, 02:12 PM
Yes, because actors writing STORYLINES, not dialogue, is a HUGE INFRACTION against Guild LAWS.
I'm confused as to how an altered script would constitute evidence of that, though. Changing the long-term direction of a story as opposed to dialogue requires intervention much earlier in the writing process (i.e. outlines and breakdowns). It can't be accomplished merely by taking a red pen to a script.
And also, scripts on paper don't mean anything really. Anyone can write anything and type anyone's name. I'm not saying that here but what you need is the digital copy that was transferred back and forth. You can go into the info of a word document and see the name of the person who created it (assuming WOrd was setup with the right name) as well as file locations of where the file was stored. If that comes across showing Ed's notebook was used and he edited it at times he knew he was on his PC, then that is proof.

Not a typed page with a person's name on it.
Unless you're talking about handwriting.
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I think the problem with not naming names, and understand that you can't, but the problem is that now innocent actresses names are being thrown out there - is that fair? Is everyone's integrity being questioned because of the actions of one actress - seems like a shame to me!
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When Nelson said "top star" I immediately went back to Diedre. She's moving into this big story with Stefano.....and if this has just been going on for weeks, it might just now be making it to the screen, and that would also mean Higley did write the "elevator crap" and the "Java mess" that we've been subjected to........
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Alligato
Jul 28 2008, 02:29 PM
Mitchapalooza
Jul 28 2008, 02:24 PM

Then again, they may enjoy this and see it is an oppourtunity to gain interest and buzz about the show.
You have a point. NBC doesn't always come across as having much class when it comes to programs (Baby Borrowers and American Gladiators comes to mind, as do a few of their other "winners")...so they might just take advantage of this crazy drama behind the scenes and keep promoting it to see if it gets ratings.

The surprise is that it is pissing off more fans than ever before. They are totally ruining our show with all this discord.
Expect no one cares about daytime anymore. Back when Melissa Reeves up and walked out in the mid-ninities I think it was huge news across the board because she was a big star for the show and walked in the middle of her contract then was sued and then there were all those rumors about why and who and what not. I could be remembering it wrong because I was only eleven too.
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cjknick
Jul 28 2008, 02:32 PM
I think the problem with not naming names, and understand that you can't, but the problem is that now innocent actresses names are being thrown out there - is that fair? Is everyone's integrity being questioned because of the actions of one actress - seems like a shame to me!
It is a shame, but that's the price you pay to be in the limelight. You can't control millions of viewers thoughts, whether the accusations are assumed or not.
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cjknick
Jul 28 2008, 02:32 PM
I think the problem with not naming names, and understand that you can't, but the problem is that now innocent actresses names are being thrown out there - is that fair? Is everyone's integrity being questioned because of the actions of one actress - seems like a shame to me!
Exactly. Most people are throwing out any and every name and most seem way off base and many go back to the fact that they just don't like that character/performer.
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There's no way it's NB. Do you really think ES would give her that kind of power over the scripts? She's not a Vet. Plus she loves working with JKJ (that's one of the reasons she came back to DOOL) and wouldn't have Chloe acting so out of character.

I'm betting on it being a vet actress that is part of a popular couple.
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Jul 28 2008, 02:33 PM
When Nelson said "top star" I immediately went back to Diedre. She's moving into this big story with Stefano.....and if this has just been going on for weeks, it might just now be making it to the screen, and that would also mean Higley did write the "elevator crap" and the "Java mess" that we've been subjected to........
A time line would be helpful - like when did all of this crap start to happen!

I think that if the ratings were good we would not be hearing about this - klind of seems like finger pointing to me!
Edited by cjknick, Jul 28 2008, 02:46 PM.
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jcar03
Jul 28 2008, 02:36 PM
cjknick
Jul 28 2008, 02:32 PM
I think the problem with not naming names, and understand that you can't, but the problem is that now innocent actresses names are being thrown out there - is that fair? Is everyone's integrity being questioned because of the actions of one actress - seems like a shame to me!
Exactly. Most people are throwing out any and every name and most seem way off base and many go back to the fact that they just don't like that character/performer.
I can only speak for myself when I say that I for one am not dragging anyone's name through the mud. We are just speculating....and without going to off topic, I must respectfully disagree with you since I don't see what the big deal is. There has been nasty shit said about actors/actresses since the inseption of theater, tv and cinema, etc. Speculating who the "top star" is no different than being critical about what an actor looks like or their acting talents, or lack thereof.

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cjknick
Jul 28 2008, 02:36 PM
JANALH
Jul 28 2008, 02:33 PM
When Nelson said "top star" I immediately went back to Diedre. She's moving into this big story with Stefano.....and if this has just been going on for weeks, it might just now be making it to the screen, and that would also mean Higley did write the "elevator crap" and the "Java mess" that we've been subjected to........
A time line would be helpful - like when did all of this crap start to happen! If we have not seen it yet it could be DH - she is getting a dual role and we all know that sometimes leads to meaty material and an emmy nod!
Expect Deidre Hall is notorious for not caring about getting Emmy recognition.
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I also don't think one altered script with notes by Ed and the actor is proof of Ed taking over the whole show and rewriting everything that comes to him from the writers.

Dena had to be involved up through the John and Ava sex because she crowed about it to SOD. These are her ideas. June and at least most of July were all Dena. There is no way Ed could rewrite the whole show by himself with a couple of actors. Most actors would refuse to write their own stuff. They wouldn't want to get in trouble or they would just know it's not their job and that they are better to do what they do best - acting - not writing.

I could see Deidre giving her input on the Stefano story and the stuff about Samantha since some of it is from over twenty years ago. No one on the writing staff has been involved with the show that long.

I think it's possible all of this is blown out of proportion and what we have is a couple of egos clashing and, personally, I think the person with the track record should win out. Ed Scott has over 20 years of proven success in an Executive Producer type role. Dena is a two time headwriter failure who is hated by actors and fans alike. The only reason she has this third job as a headwriter is Corday, and obviously, because she and her husband were willing to circumvent the rules of the strike in order to produce material for the show during it.

But we'll see how it shakes out. I just don't see that Higley is a victim in this because she seemed very much behind and proud of the 4th of July elevator episodes which were only a few weeks ago. If that was a rewrite, she had no control over, then why would she gush about it to SOD? Headwriters don't have to gush about their storylines. Leave it to the actors, the EP or Ken Corday. She was very proud of it and I think that's a huge reason why ratings are down is viewers not liking to see casual sex, long time beloved characters like Chloe suddenly acting like sluts and non-rooting couples in graphic sex scenes with their interlopers. To get these elevator scenes, she stalled the EJ & Sami love story which has a huge fan following, giving that fanbase nothing to hold onto in the weeks leading up to the elevator stuff.

She alienated fanbases and fanbases who are alienated TUNE OUT these days. In one episode, she alienated four separate fanbases. And most of you who watched OLTL while Higley ran that show know that that is right up Higley's ally and one of th reasons she is so hated. She pretends she cares about the fans but that never shows on screen. Actions speak louder than words as they say.
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cjknick
Jul 28 2008, 02:36 PM
JANALH
Jul 28 2008, 02:33 PM
When Nelson said "top star" I immediately went back to Diedre. She's moving into this big story with Stefano.....and if this has just been going on for weeks, it might just now be making it to the screen, and that would also mean Higley did write the "elevator crap" and the "Java mess" that we've been subjected to........
A time line would be helpful - like when did all of this crap start to happen! If we have not seen it yet it could be DH - she is getting a dual role and we all know that sometimes leads to meaty material and an emmy nod!
I still don't think it's Dee. Weeks and weeks translates to more than one month, IMO. Given the interviews she has done, she has no clue what is going on. She has said things like Marlena returns to accept the nuJohn and just the opposite has happened. And being a long time fan of hers, she has absolutely no interest in writing for herself. Especially at this point.

And Dee has been very outspoken about her distaste for the Emmy's. And her dual role is only for a hallucinogenic type experience.
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