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Dena Higley QUITS — SUDS REPORT EXCLUSIVE; Breaking News — TVGC; ATWT actor FIRED
Topic Started: Jul 26 2008, 06:10 PM (133,403 Views)
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Ives
Jul 28 2008, 07:44 PM
PhoenixRising05
Jul 28 2008, 07:37 PM
Terry is probably contacting Ken Corday for the position and considering it's Corday he may consider it :laugh: .

One other thing...I still have this odd feeling Dena is involved in how this was exposed. Hell, I wouldn't even put it past her to make this into a bigger deal then it was to save face and to make her look good with the WGA and give herself an out and also get rid of Ed Scott and maybe return to Days without him there. I mean, it feels like we only got one side of this and that we are missing quite a few pieces. Whoever exposed this and turned in proof, to me, has to be someone with an ax to grind. Why else would they put all this in motion?
Yeah, I kind of have a feeling like that also. But the problem is that she snuck behind the WGA and its rules when it suited her - so it feels like a desperate measure. Also, why break this when Corday is on vacation? Did he know about it?
Maybe she figured with Corday gone she could snow him and make him think that Ed did things that were much worse then what he actually did. We already know they like each other so he would probably believe her on a whim rather then Scott, not knowing any better since he wasn't there when all this went down.

Another thing is maybe Dena quit and then figured she has no shot in hell of getting a job with the way people look at her and the WGA being against her. Enter this whole mess into the mix and she comes off looking more favorable and that helps her cause.
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Jul 28 2008, 07:45 PM
It is weird that many are so adamant about protecting Ed Scott's reputation but at the same time no one except the fan girls are worried about protecting the actresses reputations. So many actresses have had their names dragged through the mud today but no one seems that concerned about it.
The difference between Ed and the actresses is that, with the actresses, it's all innocent (IMO) speculation. With Ed, it's practically being stated as a fact that he did what it's being said he did.
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Well if the WGA is stepping into this so quickly as Nelson is indicating it also indicates that still with the "scab" thing there is no evidence our there. They generally take action pretty quickly and I think they would have stepped in a lot sooner to bring charges against Days if there was full proof that Dena did write during the strike. Evidently if she did she was better at hiding things than Ed Scott and this actress have been. The WGA has been so eager to make someone pay for what happened during the strike and they can't get any proof.

I think many of us are right that Dena dictated to her husband story ideas and stuff and he did the actual writing. If that is all she did, then there is nothing to convict her of. Because she didn't actually write.

Someone brought up about Ken being so evil to organize Dena's writing during the strike before it happened. I think honestly if he had not done that Days would have had no hope of being renewed this year. By doing what he did and acting before the strike even happened, he helped Days in the long run as it was the only soap to maintain during the strike. Without some action and some plan in motion you would have never seen a lot of the stuff that happened during the strike come off as well as it did.
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I get that he may have been going to an extreme to save the show but his career extends beyond the show, so why risk it?

Maybe because he thought he'd never get caught/get in trouble for it.
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Jul 28 2008, 07:39 PM
Even if Dena Higley is behind the reveal, Ed Scott still had to do it in the first place in order for there to be something for her to turn in to the WGA.
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I don't think it's Josh Griffith who's re-writing Maria Bell's stuff. I think it's Eric Braeden. There were already rumors about that.

I'd also like to know where this is coming from. If it's the Corday/Higley camp trying to discredit a long time EP, who's never been accused of anything like this, I say shanangans. Hackley almost distroyed OLTL, she wasn't even professional enough to watch OLTL before or after the got the headwriter job. On Days she got rid of Belle & Shawn, had Sami sleep with her rapist, and lied about scabbing.

I don't believe them.

ETA - I spoke to a WGA friend this morning and this was his take on it:
He thought it sounded more like Higley was trying to diffuse the WGA investagation into her scabbing by using bullsh!t disinformation to take the heat off herself. I guess if it works for Carl Rove and Bush. Also, if she can do an end-run and discredit Scott, then his testimony regarding her to the WGA won't have the same merit. He thought it was a very calculated and desperate move by Higley.

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I'm always suspicious of people who claim to have this friend or that friend but I wouldn't put it past Higley.
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Mason
Jul 28 2008, 07:51 PM
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Jul 28 2008, 07:45 PM
It is weird that many are so adamant about protecting Ed Scott's reputation but at the same time no one except the fan girls are worried about protecting the actresses reputations. So many actresses have had their names dragged through the mud today but no one seems that concerned about it.
The difference between Ed and the actresses is that, with the actresses, it's all innocent (IMO) speculation. With Ed, it's practically being stated as a fact that he did what it's being said he did.
Exactly. It ties in with how we all comment on an actor or actress' look. If they are in the public domain, it's fair game. It's just speculation.

I don't think it's about defending Ed or trying to maintain his reputation. I think it's pretty clear he's involved but to what extent? I mean, it feels like a whole other side to this is missing and a man as smart as Ed Scott doing this...something isn't right. Does that mean he didn't do it? No. I just think there is more to it and that someone whose been in the business like Ed for years has to be smarter then doing something like this at a soap that was already under investigation for the strike situation. There is just too much risk and that is what puzzles me.
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Jul 28 2008, 07:51 PM
Steve Frame
Jul 28 2008, 07:45 PM
It is weird that many are so adamant about protecting Ed Scott's reputation but at the same time no one except the fan girls are worried about protecting the actresses reputations. So many actresses have had their names dragged through the mud today but no one seems that concerned about it.
The difference between Ed and the actresses is that, with the actresses, it's all innocent (IMO) speculation. With Ed, it's practically being stated as a fact that he did what it's being said he did.
But so many others careers have been ruined over just rumors and this info came from an insider.

last year Drake Hogestyn was dragged through the mud for things people thought he said or things they heard he said.

Here we have in print from an insider what Ed did. All we are stating is what is in print. There's a big difference to me.
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Jul 28 2008, 07:52 PM
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I get that he may have been going to an extreme to save the show but his career extends beyond the show, so why risk it?

Maybe because he thought he'd never get caught/get in trouble for it.
But as Phoenix just said, how could he think that? Days is already being watched/looked at by the union for previous union infractions, very serious ones. He's been around for years and I just don't get he would be so foolish. And what is this about Corday taking back the show? It is his show...how would he not be a part of this?

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jcar03
Jul 28 2008, 07:55 PM
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Jul 28 2008, 07:39 PM
Even if Dena Higley is behind the reveal, Ed Scott still had to do it in the first place in order for there to be something for her to turn in to the WGA.
This was posted at Gold Derby:


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Cindi Posted July 28, 2008 11:30 AM Hide Post
I don't think it's Josh Griffith who's re-writing Maria Bell's stuff. I think it's Eric Braeden. There were already rumors about that.

I'd also like to know where this is coming from. If it's the Corday/Higley camp trying to discredit a long time EP, who's never been accused of anything like this, I say shanangans. Hackley almost distroyed OLTL, she wasn't even professional enough to watch OLTL before or after the got the headwriter job. On Days she got rid of Belle & Shawn, had Sami sleep with her rapist, and lied about scabbing.

I don't believe them.

ETA - I spoke to a WGA friend this morning and this was his take on it:
He thought it sounded more like Higley was trying to diffuse the WGA investagation into her scabbing by using bullsh!t disinformation to take the heat off herself. I guess if it works for Carl Rove and Bush. Also, if she can do an end-run and discredit Scott, then his testimony regarding her to the WGA won't have the same merit. He thought it was a very calculated and desperate move by Higley.

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I'm always suspicious of people who claim to have this friend or that friend but I wouldn't put it past Higley.
I don't know how much more of the plot being thickened I can take.... :shrug:
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Jul 28 2008, 07:48 PM
I just can't see Ed being that desperate. Even if he had sex with an actress or whatever, it's just a bit much. He broke union rules to save a show he's been at for about a year? I mean, he can find another job. I would buy him doing this for Y&R because he was there forever. I just can't see it for Days. Hell, I can't see it at all. Sure, sometimes people do things and doubt they will get caught but knowing full well Days was already under investigation for the strike stuff, why would he take such risks? Days was already under a microscope so it's an even bigger risk. It's just hard to imagine someone like Ed doing that and taken so many risks with the higher then normal probabilities that he would be caught. Something isn't adding up and it's not just me defending Ed. I feel like there is a missing link and I wouldn't be surprised if it somehow has to do with Higley and her wanting to get Scott out and trying to make herself look more favorable to the WGA and others. We already know she hates criticism so maybe she figured she could make herself look like a victim and make herself more endearing to fans. There are just so many questions.
But if this is the way he has always done things he would just be acting as he always has. He probably felt that no one would turn him in.

I mean we know what Brenda Dickson said about him.

We know that Kay Alden hated him.

Rumors have been out there.

He just never got turned in before. This time he possibly did.

Many people do stuff all the time thinking they won't get caught. But as the guy said on Two & Half Men this afternoon - "at some point you have to pay the piper."
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Jul 28 2008, 07:51 PM
Well if the WGA is stepping into this so quickly as Nelson is indicating it also indicates that still with the "scab" thing there is no evidence our there. They generally take action pretty quickly and I think they would have stepped in a lot sooner to bring charges against Days if there was full proof that Dena did write during the strike. Evidently if she did she was better at hiding things than Ed Scott and this actress have been. The WGA has been so eager to make someone pay for what happened during the strike and they can't get any proof.

I think many of us are right that Dena dictated to her husband story ideas and stuff and he did the actual writing. If that is all she did, then there is nothing to convict her of. Because she didn't actually write.

Someone brought up about Ken being so evil to organize Dena's writing during the strike before it happened. I think honestly if he had not done that Days would have had no hope of being renewed this year. By doing what he did and acting before the strike even happened, he helped Days in the long run as it was the only soap to maintain during the strike. Without some action and some plan in motion you would have never seen a lot of the stuff that happened during the strike come off as well as it did.
I will agree with that. I never thought they would actually catch her because with her husband and Victor G (her best bud), I can see her just writing through them. It is funny how her husband was fired after the strike and Victor G was demoted shortly thereafter.

I also agree about Corday. I hate that he brought in Higley and her buddies but Days did extremely well during the strike, much better then every other show IMO.
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I'm sure Ed is no angel, but I don't think he should be the only one vilified for what's gone down. As it was said much earlier in this thread, there's not one person in this whole thing that's innocent.
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ETA - I spoke to a WGA friend this morning and this was his take on it:
He thought it sounded more like Higley was trying to diffuse the WGA investagation into her scabbing by using bullsh!t disinformation to take the heat off herself. I guess if it works for Carl Rove and Bush. Also, if she can do an end-run and discredit Scott, then his testimony regarding her to the WGA won't have the same merit. He thought it was a very calculated and desperate move by Higley.


This was my gut feel when I first read the scoop. I think someone close to Higley has "sexed up" the story for her benefit.
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Jul 28 2008, 07:58 PM
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Jul 28 2008, 07:48 PM
I just can't see Ed being that desperate. Even if he had sex with an actress or whatever, it's just a bit much. He broke union rules to save a show he's been at for about a year? I mean, he can find another job. I would buy him doing this for Y&R because he was there forever. I just can't see it for Days. Hell, I can't see it at all. Sure, sometimes people do things and doubt they will get caught but knowing full well Days was already under investigation for the strike stuff, why would he take such risks? Days was already under a microscope so it's an even bigger risk. It's just hard to imagine someone like Ed doing that and taken so many risks with the higher then normal probabilities that he would be caught. Something isn't adding up and it's not just me defending Ed. I feel like there is a missing link and I wouldn't be surprised if it somehow has to do with Higley and her wanting to get Scott out and trying to make herself look more favorable to the WGA and others. We already know she hates criticism so maybe she figured she could make herself look like a victim and make herself more endearing to fans. There are just so many questions.
But if this is the way he has always done things he would just be acting as he always has. He probably felt that no one would turn him in.

I mean we know what Brenda Dickson said about him.

We know that Kay Alden hated him.

Rumors have been out there.

He just never got turned in before. This time he possibly did.

Many people do stuff all the time thinking they won't get caught. But as the guy said on Two & Half Men this afternoon - "at some point you have to pay the piper."
I see what your saying Steve but if he had been doing stuff like this before, it would've came out. He's been in the business for many years. Someone would've spilled. Just look at how quick this came out. It hasn't even been more then a half a year.

I'm not saying the man is a saint and that he hasn't done unsavory things. I just think there are too many pieces missing. It may end up being as bad as it looks for him. I just feel like a huge chunk is missing and my theory is it relates to Higley because she can reap the benefits of Ed Scott and all involved going down in flames. She has alot to gain from all this, which is why I can see her maybe exaggerating what went down or turning them all in herself.
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Jul 28 2008, 08:00 PM
I'm sure Ed is no angel, but I don't think he should be the only one vilified for what's gone down. As it was said much earlier in this thread, there's not one person in this whole thing that's innocent.
I was the one that said that and I agree.

I don't think anyone is innocent including Higley and Scott.

But many across the Internet hate Higley so much that they are actually getting enjoyment out of what Scott did. All I can say is when it costs them Days totally who is going to be getting the last laugh.

If Ed did this he was unethical and it was the wrong way to go about it and most likely it will mean the end of Days on the air or ever as we know it.

It was stupid.
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Jul 28 2008, 02:43 PM

I could see Deidre giving her input on the Stefano story and the stuff about Samantha since some of it is from over twenty years ago. No one on the writing staff has been involved with the show that long.
You all know I lurk about-- hardly ever post-- but you all should know in formulating your theories that Dena has been writing relatively consistently in some way for DOOL since ~1985 (except for OLTL fiasco). So if she sucks, it ain't cuz she doesn't know the history...
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ok, this may be way off base here, but i just thought, could overBLOWn diva be a hint here? just wondering...
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As far as who sent in the scripts to the WGA, I personally do believe it was Higley that did that. Who else would have had as much motivation to do that (or as much to gain if it diverted the Guild from her own actions)?
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Remember Nelso clarified that his source was someone close to Higley but not friends with her.

Whatever Errol knows he refuses to say anything and so does Toups. Both said they were leaving this one alone which indicates there is a whole lot more to it than we know and it aint' good.
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Jul 28 2008, 08:04 PM
As far as who sent in the scripts to the WGA, I personally do believe it was Higley that did that. Who else would have had as much motivation to do that (or as much to gain if it diverted the Guild from her own actions)?
Yep. She has alot to gain from this trainwreck.

Even if this story is being exaggerated by Higley's camp, it does not absolve Scott. As has been said, there are no innocents in this and this is a major hit for Days. I just want to hear all sides and as many facts as possible because I feel like we are merely scratching the surface.
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