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Dena Higley QUITS — SUDS REPORT EXCLUSIVE; Breaking News — TVGC; ATWT actor FIRED
Topic Started: Jul 26 2008, 06:10 PM (133,402 Views)
jcar03
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Yeah, when the news broke and someone posted it on SON Toups and Errol said something was going down but they were waiting for confirmation.
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Steve Frame
Jul 28 2008, 08:05 PM
Remember Nelso clarified that his source was someone close to Higley but not friends with her.

Whatever Errol knows he refuses to say anything and so does Toups. Both said they were leaving this one alone which indicates there is a whole lot more to it than we know and it aint' good.
Yep. And that scares me.

They had the same stance last night. I get the feeling it's going to take a long time to see all this play out and how it's all handled.

Way to shakeup what was a quiet summer :laugh: .
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jcar03
Jul 28 2008, 08:07 PM
Yeah, when the news broke and someone posted it on SON Toups and Errol said something was going down but they were waiting for confirmation.
I didn't even see them say that.

All I saw was them saying they weren't going to get involved and they were going to let Nelson have the scoop.

If Days gets a new writer and/or producer, they will likely report that but I can't see them going into all the other stuff.
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Jul 28 2008, 07:51 PM
Someone brought up about Ken being so evil to organize Dena's writing during the strike before it happened. I think honestly if he had not done that Days would have had no hope of being renewed this year. By doing what he did and acting before the strike even happened, he helped Days in the long run as it was the only soap to maintain during the strike. Without some action and some plan in motion you would have never seen a lot of the stuff that happened during the strike come off as well as it did.
I am not sure if you were referring to some posts of mine because I did discuss that. The point I was trying to make in those posts, though, was about Dena Higley. She was willing to plan ahead of time to go behind the union's rules and ethics and now, while under investigation by the union, it seems disingenuous that she is now trying to avail herself of that same protection.

I am glad Corday made some provision for Days during the strike.

And for the record, I am not a huge anti-Dena Higley viewer or poster. Like Hogan, she has had some hits and some misses. I am just suspicious to pass judgments until a fuller picture of the situation is shown.
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Jul 28 2008, 08:05 PM
Remember Nelso clarified that his source was someone close to Higley but not friends with her.

Even so, it's highly probable this person has a material interest in the outcome of Scott versus Higley. Pretty much everyone behind the scenes has a reason to take sides.
Edited by Ponz, Jul 28 2008, 08:11 PM.
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Matt
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So, Dena didn't tip off the WGA -- it was someone "close" to her (but not friends). To get that kind of documentation, they'd definitely have to be someone with a connection to the show -- perhaps one of her assistants/secretaries or maybe even one of her writing staff. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that's where the chain begins. I think it's highly reasonable to assume that the person who leaked the information could very well have been tipped off by a set-side source -- perhaps an uninvolved actor/actress who saw what was going on and didn't like it (be it for ethical reasons or because the changed stories had negative effects on them). The person who sent the scripts, breakdowns, and emails is obviously someone who has access to them. It can't exactly be easy to get copies of someone else's emails.
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And that is the issue, Ponz. They are all going to take sides. This puts everyone at Days in that predicament because you have producers, writers, and actors/actresses involved. There is going to be division and there is going to be lots of fighting. That is what is heartbreaking. It's almost like the foundation has been laid for this show to tear itself apart.

The only hope now is they can clean out all the scandalous crap and find some stabilization but it's going to be a long time before that happens.
Edited by PhoenixRising05, Jul 28 2008, 08:14 PM.
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What is the biggest shame is the backstabbing...the loyality level is at an all time low - how utterly unprofessional. This is a production that is on the chopping block and the actors are working their bums off. And this behind the scene bullshit is self serving and in my opinion disturbing.... I understand that there are rules but I m sure those rules have been broken a billion times. Higley herself has broken them. Higley may never be hired again in this industry!
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PhoenixRising05
Jul 28 2008, 08:09 PM
jcar03
Jul 28 2008, 08:07 PM
Yeah, when the news broke and someone posted it on SON Toups and Errol said something was going down but they were waiting for confirmation.
I didn't even see them say that.

All I saw was them saying they weren't going to get involved and they were going to let Nelson have the scoop.

If Days gets a new writer and/or producer, they will likely report that but I can't see them going into all the other stuff.
I am pretty sure they know what is going on (by the posts I have seen from them) but they don't want to get involved in the messiness of it.
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You just never expected this at Days. It's always been a close-knit group. You never felt such dissension like on some other shows. That is why I tend to think the actors or actresses involved have to be someone young or new to the show because there has never been a hint of issues like this at Days, at least not involving cast members.

Someone really needs to call Sony and see what they say LOL.
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PhoenixRising05
Jul 28 2008, 08:15 PM
You just never expected this at Days. It's always been a close-knit group. You never felt such dissension like on some other shows. That is why I tend to think the actors or actresses involved have to be someone young or new to the show because there has never been a hint of issues like this at Days, at least not involving cast members.

Someone really needs to call Sony and see what they say LOL.
I totally agree with this!!
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Ok .... so lemmie get this straight


Dena Higley's had her work re-written by Scott and some woman in the cast and others when they basically get infront of a camera, so the scabber called the WGA and bitched like a whinny little baby. Dena Higley possibly isnt gone, if Corday's trying to regain control. And the WGA has fined Days. Fucking excellent!


I dont blame Scott for the awful state of Days. Garbage scripts in ... garbage scripts out, rewrites or no rewrites. This is a soap opera, not fucking improv! Without someone guiding the show with a strong vision, of course nothing is going to work out on screen. And I know if I were petty (which I am) and Ed Scott I'd hand over all that nice proof he must have as the one in charge showing she scabbed to the WGA and get her blacklisted forever.

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Wait, WHAT has happened now?!
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Steve Frame
Jul 28 2008, 07:56 PM
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Jul 28 2008, 07:51 PM
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Jul 28 2008, 07:45 PM
It is weird that many are so adamant about protecting Ed Scott's reputation but at the same time no one except the fan girls are worried about protecting the actresses reputations. So many actresses have had their names dragged through the mud today but no one seems that concerned about it.
The difference between Ed and the actresses is that, with the actresses, it's all innocent (IMO) speculation. With Ed, it's practically being stated as a fact that he did what it's being said he did.
But so many others careers have been ruined over just rumors and this info came from an insider.

last year Drake Hogestyn was dragged through the mud for things people thought he said or things they heard he said.

Here we have in print from an insider what Ed did. All we are stating is what is in print. There's a big difference to me.
Just because one insider says some vague things does not mean we know the entire story. I'm waiting for more information from someone with a name rather than 'a set insider'. Nothing against Nelson, but stuff like this merits hearing the actual facts.
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Jul 28 2008, 08:03 PM
ElvisDiMera
Jul 28 2008, 02:43 PM

I could see Deidre giving her input on the Stefano story and the stuff about Samantha since some of it is from over twenty years ago. No one on the writing staff has been involved with the show that long.
You all know I lurk about-- hardly ever post-- but you all should know in formulating your theories that Dena has been writing relatively consistently in some way for DOOL since ~1985 (except for OLTL fiasco). So if she sucks, it ain't cuz she doesn't know the history...
Samantha was from a few years before even that though. It's much easier for the character who plays the role to remember details than writers because writers write for all the characters and are involved in all the storylines. It gets hard to remember who was involved in what but actors generally remember everything about their characters since it's much more personal for them and they have to memorize the dialogue and search out the meaning and how they want to play it.

So while Dena would know more about the history of Days than Hogan or some other writer, she wouldn't necessarily know it all.

But I agree, she doesn't suck because she doesn't know the history. She sucks because she is not a good head writer and doesn't have a good pulse on today's audiences. She doesn't understand what viewers want to see.
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PhoenixRising05
Jul 28 2008, 08:13 PM
And that is the issue, Ponz. They are all going to take sides. This puts everyone at Days in that predicament because you have producers, writers, and actors/actresses involved. There is going to be division and there is going to be lots of fighting. That is what is heartbreaking. It's almost like the foundation has been laid for this show to tear itself apart.

The only hope now is they can clean out all the scandalous crap and find some stabilization but it's going to be a long time before that happens.
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This is the escape I needed from my own overblown workplace drama.

If this whole deal is partly a ploy by Higley to distract from her own shenanigans during the strike I sincerely hope that TPTB are participating in it. She risked for them, they can take a hit for her.

Also, I'm loving the timing- right as they need to ramp up before The Olympics there's a much-needed injection of drama. It's nicely planned, and I appreciate that.
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PhoenixRising05
Jul 28 2008, 08:15 PM
You just never expected this at Days. It's always been a close-knit group. You never felt such dissension like on some other shows. That is why I tend to think the actors or actresses involved have to be someone young or new to the show because there has never been a hint of issues like this at Days, at least not involving cast members.

Someone really needs to call Sony and see what they say LOL.
Well I'm not surprised if Corday sticks up for Higley he has known her a lot longer and many have said that DAYS is mostly like a family and Ed Scott would be the outsider. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Ken was the one that turned the evidence in.
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Damn, you guys are tenacious! I can't wash dishes, take a bath, or take a pee without this thread increasing 100 fold!!!!! Good thing I have a laptop so I can use this as my nighttime reading...........
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jcar03
Jul 28 2008, 08:25 PM
PhoenixRising05
Jul 28 2008, 08:15 PM
You just never expected this at Days. It's always been a close-knit group. You never felt such dissension like on some other shows. That is why I tend to think the actors or actresses involved have to be someone young or new to the show because there has never been a hint of issues like this at Days, at least not involving cast members.

Someone really needs to call Sony and see what they say LOL.
Well I'm not surprised if Corday sticks up for Higley he has known her a lot longer and many have said that DAYS is mostly like a family and Ed Scott would be the outsider. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Ken was the one that turned the evidence in.
So Ken turned in the evidence to sink his own show? Why not just fire Ed and let Dena keep writing the show into the ground?
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