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DAYS:Spoilers & Previews; week of 10/13 **UPDATED 10/7**
Topic Started: Sep 30 2008, 10:06 PM (10,708 Views)
lucaluca


I don't think that we're going to see Sami withhold the child from EJ--the Prevuze day-ahead already shows Lucas calling her out on how she did that to him with Will. He makes the call to EJ. It sounds like he doesn't want EJ to go through that, even though they are enemies.

it's got to come out at some point that she's pregnant--I mean, isn't that why they wrote this in, so that they wouldn't have to hide Ali's belly? I just don't see them trying to pass it off as someone else's baby. I think Sami is just overwhelmed by this news. They made a point to show her yesterday trying to establish some semblance of independence, trying to get her life back, and now this--three young babies. It's just going to take her a while to come to terms with it, I think.

While I want a more devious Sami back, I don't want to see her go all the way back to paternity-switching. But that would require me to place faith in these writers--faith that I don't have, given what I've seen on my screen for the past 6 months...
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Oct 1 2008, 09:30 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 09:25 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 09:12 AM
I don't see how Sami concerning herself with Nicole's pregnancy is proof that she "truly loves" EJ. I still feel about Sami the way I felt about Belle: she doesn't want someone else playing with one of her toys. EJ spent ages allegedly being obsessively in love with her and I think she enjoyed kicking him around because for once she held the power. Now she doesn't, and she doesn't like it. IMO, Sami doesn't love EJ at all.
That's why opinions are a beautiful thing. :smile:

I have to agreee with Paxton.
If Sami "loves" EJ why would she react to the news of her pregnancy the way she did? Why not tell him?




Then we will agree to disagree then. I don't know why Sami does the things she does, I guess her reactions to life's unexpected turn of events are what makes Sami, Sami.

The EJami/Ejole/Lumi debates have become quite monotonously expected here and I won't bite. I'm not going to sit here and debate with you whether or not Sami loves EJ. You have your opinion and I have my own opinion and theory as to how things will play out.

Edited by Pearly, Oct 1 2008, 10:03 AM.
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Oct 1 2008, 10:01 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 09:30 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 09:25 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 09:12 AM
I don't see how Sami concerning herself with Nicole's pregnancy is proof that she "truly loves" EJ. I still feel about Sami the way I felt about Belle: she doesn't want someone else playing with one of her toys. EJ spent ages allegedly being obsessively in love with her and I think she enjoyed kicking him around because for once she held the power. Now she doesn't, and she doesn't like it. IMO, Sami doesn't love EJ at all.
That's why opinions are a beautiful thing. :smile:

I have to agreee with Paxton.
If Sami "loves" EJ why would she react to the news of her pregnancy the way she did? Why not tell him?




Then we will agree to disagree then. I don't know why Sami does the things she does, I guess her reactions to life's unexpected turn of events are what makes Sami, Sami.

The EJami/Ejole/Lumi debates have become quite monotonously expected here and I won't bite. I'm not going to sit here and debate with you whether or not Sami loves EJ. You have your opinion and I have my own opinion and theory as to how things will play out.


Uh...OK. But for the record neither Paxton nor myself even hinted at Lumi or Ejole. We were only discussing the unlikelihood that Sami loves EJ.

Given that you think that Sami loves EJ you might have some insight as to why Sami wouldn't just tell EJ.

Guess I was wrong.
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Oct 1 2008, 10:15 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 10:01 AM
ilovemydays
Oct 1 2008, 09:30 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 09:25 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 09:12 AM
I don't see how Sami concerning herself with Nicole's pregnancy is proof that she "truly loves" EJ. I still feel about Sami the way I felt about Belle: she doesn't want someone else playing with one of her toys. EJ spent ages allegedly being obsessively in love with her and I think she enjoyed kicking him around because for once she held the power. Now she doesn't, and she doesn't like it. IMO, Sami doesn't love EJ at all.
That's why opinions are a beautiful thing. :smile:

I have to agreee with Paxton.
If Sami "loves" EJ why would she react to the news of her pregnancy the way she did? Why not tell him?




Then we will agree to disagree then. I don't know why Sami does the things she does, I guess her reactions to life's unexpected turn of events are what makes Sami, Sami.

The EJami/Ejole/Lumi debates have become quite monotonously expected here and I won't bite. I'm not going to sit here and debate with you whether or not Sami loves EJ. You have your opinion and I have my own opinion and theory as to how things will play out.


Uh...OK. But for the record neither Paxton nor myself even hinted at Lumi or Ejole. We were only discussing the unlikelihood that Sami loves EJ.

Given that you think that Sami loves EJ you might have some insight as to why Sami wouldn't just tell EJ.

Guess I was wrong.
My apologies to you if I presumed you were debating for a fanbase.

However, yes, you were wrong. I don't have any insight on what the writers will do. We can sit here and speculate 'til kingdom come but we'll never know what's gonna happen until it's on our screens. So, no, I don't have insight, none of us do, no matter which couple or character you are or aren't rooting for. Who knows how Sami, Nicole, EJ or any one character on the show will be written in the future. History on this show obviously means nothing.

Regardless, I stand firm on my opinion that Sami does love EJ and I don't have to explain my opinion or theory to anyone.
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Oct 1 2008, 09:12 AM
I don't see how Sami concerning herself with Nicole's pregnancy is proof that she "truly loves" EJ. I still feel about Sami the way I felt about Belle: she doesn't want someone else playing with one of her toys. EJ spent ages allegedly being obsessively in love with her and I think she enjoyed kicking him around because for once she held the power. Now she doesn't, and she doesn't like it. IMO, Sami doesn't love EJ at all.
LOL! Sami reacts angrily to her ex-lapdog impregnating Nicole? In other news, the sky is blue, grass is green and the earth rotates.
Edited by Ponz, Oct 1 2008, 10:43 AM.
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Oct 1 2008, 10:30 AM

Regardless, I stand firm on my opinion that Sami does love EJ and I don't have to explain my opinion or theory to anyone.
Go Pearly!!! :rockon:

I think we all get caught up in our own line of thinking and forget that there are two sides to every coin. With soaps, as most of us know, who someone loves today, may not be who they love tommorrow. But we can try to figure out who we think someone loves or doesn't love on the show, and who knows, to some extent we're probably all right!!! :shrug:

But, as for me, I'm with you Pearly, I think Sami does love EJ, but that scares the :shithitfan: out of her!!!
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Oct 1 2008, 10:30 AM
My apologies to you if I presumed you were debating for a fanbase.

However, yes, you were wrong. I don't have any insight on what the writers will do. We can sit here and speculate 'til kingdom come but we'll never know what's gonna happen until it's on our screens. So, no, I don't have insight, none of us do, no matter which couple or character you are or aren't rooting for. Who knows how Sami, Nicole, EJ or any one character on the show will be written in the future. History on this show obviously means nothing.

Regardless, I stand firm on my opinion that Sami does love EJ and I don't have to explain my opinion or theory to anyone.

really? you think?

I've often seen posters remark, "She never would have done that." or "That's classic Sami" and "Wash, rinse, repeat"

The reason I like the writing for Nicole so far is that she is acting true to her character. Yes her character is evolving but it the writers have her evolving and behaving in away that makes sense for someone that has been through what she has.

Oh well, I guess same old Sami has always acted in an inexplicably idiotic manner. She has that going for her and apparently, some people like it.



Edited by ilovemydays, Oct 1 2008, 10:46 AM.
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Oct 1 2008, 10:43 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 09:12 AM
I don't see how Sami concerning herself with Nicole's pregnancy is proof that she "truly loves" EJ. I still feel about Sami the way I felt about Belle: she doesn't want someone else playing with one of her toys. EJ spent ages allegedly being obsessively in love with her and I think she enjoyed kicking him around because for once she held the power. Now she doesn't, and she doesn't like it. IMO, Sami doesn't love EJ at all.
LOL! Sami reacts angrily to her ex-lapdog impregnating Nicole? In other news, the sky is blue, grass is green and the earth rotates.
Perspective is also another beautiful thing. :smile:
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Oct 1 2008, 10:15 AM
Uh...OK. But for the record neither Paxton nor myself even hinted at Lumi or Ejole. We were only discussing the unlikelihood that Sami loves EJ.

Given that you think that Sami loves EJ you might have some insight as to why Sami wouldn't just tell EJ.

Guess I was wrong.
Welll, I'm not Pearly, but I can take a stab at this.

Right now, Sami's alone with no means of support other than her children's fathers. She was going to try to get a job, but that just became a lot more difficult considering she's pregnant--and she didn't exactly have that many prospects to begin with. The last time she was pregnant, EJ was threatening to steal custody before the baby was born. And he was in love with her then. Now, he's dating her enemy, and he's basically told Sami that he doesn't care about her at all anymore other than as Johnny's mother. And he's already talked about custody. Is it that surprising that she would want to think things through before telling him they're going to have another baby?
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Oct 1 2008, 10:51 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 10:15 AM
Uh...OK. But for the record neither Paxton nor myself even hinted at Lumi or Ejole. We were only discussing the unlikelihood that Sami loves EJ.

Given that you think that Sami loves EJ you might have some insight as to why Sami wouldn't just tell EJ.

Guess I was wrong.
Welll, I'm not Pearly, but I can take a stab at this.

Right now, Sami's alone with no means of support other than her children's fathers. She was going to try to get a job, but that just became a lot more difficult considering she's pregnant--and she didn't exactly have that many prospects to begin with. The last time she was pregnant, EJ was threatening to steal custody before the baby was born. And he was in love with her then. Now, he's dating her enemy, and he's basically told Sami that he doesn't care about her at all anymore other than as Johnny's mother. And he's already talked about custody. Is it that surprising that she would want to think things through before telling him they're going to have another baby?
It makes sense only if I set aside the scene of them going over her resume but I appreciate your thoughts. Thanks for sharing.
Edited by ilovemydays, Oct 1 2008, 10:54 AM.
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Oct 1 2008, 10:45 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 10:30 AM
My apologies to you if I presumed you were debating for a fanbase.

However, yes, you were wrong. I don't have any insight on what the writers will do. We can sit here and speculate 'til kingdom come but we'll never know what's gonna happen until it's on our screens. So, no, I don't have insight, none of us do, no matter which couple or character you are or aren't rooting for. Who knows how Sami, Nicole, EJ or any one character on the show will be written in the future. History on this show obviously means nothing.

Regardless, I stand firm on my opinion that Sami does love EJ and I don't have to explain my opinion or theory to anyone.

really? you think?

I've often seen posters remark, "She never would have done that." or "That's classic Sami" and "Wash, rinse, repeat"

The reason I like the writing for Nicole so far is that she is acting true to her character. Yes her character is evolving but it the writers have her evolving and behaving in away that makes sense for someone that has been through what she has.

Oh well, I guess same old Sami has always acted in an inexplicably idiotic manner. She has that going for her and apparently, some people like it.



Again, difference of opinion. Nicole is not being written now as she was during her first run, not by a long shot. It may make sense how she is reacting NOW but it does not fit to how her character WAS written, historically.

Funny you say that Sami has always acted in an inexplicably idiotic manner because that's just how I feel about how Nicole is being written now. I guess you can say "She has that going for her and apparently, some people like it".
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Oct 1 2008, 10:56 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 10:45 AM
Pearly
Oct 1 2008, 10:30 AM
My apologies to you if I presumed you were debating for a fanbase.

However, yes, you were wrong. I don't have any insight on what the writers will do. We can sit here and speculate 'til kingdom come but we'll never know what's gonna happen until it's on our screens. So, no, I don't have insight, none of us do, no matter which couple or character you are or aren't rooting for. Who knows how Sami, Nicole, EJ or any one character on the show will be written in the future. History on this show obviously means nothing.

Regardless, I stand firm on my opinion that Sami does love EJ and I don't have to explain my opinion or theory to anyone.

really? you think?

I've often seen posters remark, "She never would have done that." or "That's classic Sami" and "Wash, rinse, repeat"

The reason I like the writing for Nicole so far is that she is acting true to her character. Yes her character is evolving but it the writers have her evolving and behaving in away that makes sense for someone that has been through what she has.

Oh well, I guess same old Sami has always acted in an inexplicably idiotic manner. She has that going for her and apparently, some people like it.



Again, difference of opinion. Nicole is not being written now as she was during her first run, not by a long shot. It may make sense how she is reacting NOW but it does not fit to how her character WAS written, historically.

Funny you say that Sami has always acted in an inexplicably idiotic manner because that's just how I feel about how Nicole is being written now. I guess you can say "She has that going for her and apparently, some people like it".

Really? It wasn't revealed that Nicole was drugged and forced to do porn as a young teen last time? :shrug:
I imagine you misunderstand me. I'm not saying that Nicole is behaving in the same way she was in the past. I'm saying that Nicole is behaving in a way that coincides with her past.




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Oct 1 2008, 11:06 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 10:56 AM
ilovemydays
Oct 1 2008, 10:45 AM
Pearly
Oct 1 2008, 10:30 AM
My apologies to you if I presumed you were debating for a fanbase.

However, yes, you were wrong. I don't have any insight on what the writers will do. We can sit here and speculate 'til kingdom come but we'll never know what's gonna happen until it's on our screens. So, no, I don't have insight, none of us do, no matter which couple or character you are or aren't rooting for. Who knows how Sami, Nicole, EJ or any one character on the show will be written in the future. History on this show obviously means nothing.

Regardless, I stand firm on my opinion that Sami does love EJ and I don't have to explain my opinion or theory to anyone.

really? you think?

I've often seen posters remark, "She never would have done that." or "That's classic Sami" and "Wash, rinse, repeat"

The reason I like the writing for Nicole so far is that she is acting true to her character. Yes her character is evolving but it the writers have her evolving and behaving in away that makes sense for someone that has been through what she has.

Oh well, I guess same old Sami has always acted in an inexplicably idiotic manner. She has that going for her and apparently, some people like it.



Again, difference of opinion. Nicole is not being written now as she was during her first run, not by a long shot. It may make sense how she is reacting NOW but it does not fit to how her character WAS written, historically.

Funny you say that Sami has always acted in an inexplicably idiotic manner because that's just how I feel about how Nicole is being written now. I guess you can say "She has that going for her and apparently, some people like it".

Really? It wasn't revealed that Nicole was drugged and forced to do porn as a young teen last time? :shrug:
I imagine you misunderstand me. I'm not saying that Nicole is behaving in the same way she was in the past. I'm saying that Nicole is behaving in a way that coincides with her past.




But that's still a difference of opinion. I don't believe that the Nicole who'd try to kill someone as powerful as Victor Kiriakis would have allowed Trent to waltz back into town, terrorize her, and blackmail her. I can understand where the people who feel that that is true to character are coming from, but it doesn't work for me.
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Oct 1 2008, 08:50 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 08:10 AM
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Sep 30 2008, 10:19 PM
^I never bought the Nicole/Daniel thing anyway.

I am wondering why they even did a paternity test. We never saw Nicole get it on with anyone else unless maybe Sami put the idea in EJ's head that he should have it done just in case given how Nicole drinks and could've slept with anyone. That probably explains it.

The CDN spoilers make this week sound boring so far. I'll wait until we get the detailed ones or find out more before I decide since these are vague but so far not much going on in these spoilers.
I think you've forgotten how much Nicole slept around before. She went prowling with Ava, and while the scene with Ava showed them not liking those particularly guys, it was very apparent that Nicole wasn't averse to sleeping around. She just wasn't into either of those guys. It does not mean she didn't sleep with other guys, and I felt it was likely she did.

I thinks it makes perfect sense that she would take a paternity test. I know you buy into her 'poor little me, I hate men because I was abused theory', but until recently that was NOT how she was portrayed. She used to be shown to like men. Nothing wrong with that btw, I liked that she liked men. I liked alot about her before. It just means this insta-pathetic Nicole who doesn't like men because she's always been a victim portrayal makes no sense, which has been my problem with this story. That and the fact that she still doesn't regret anything she's done. People just want her redeemed based on her having a horrible past vs her regretting what she did and understanding it because she had a horrible past...

If you're gonna ignore history, then I could see how this might confuse you though.
That last comment came off more than a bit condescending and rude and IMO it is also incorrect.

If by “they”, you are referring to TPTB I would say that “they” are not the ones that are ignoring history. They are merely expounding upon it.


It appears that TPTB recognize, as do I, that Nicole’s behavior is typical of someone that has been sexually abused as a child (young adult). Promiscuity, drug and alcohol abuse, low self esteem are all indicative symptoms of victims of incest and sexual abuse. The changes in Nicole represent her transition from victim to survivor. I don’t see her being a saint I just see her as a woman that realizes that she can get past what happened to her and stop victimizing herself.


After Nicole shot down that guy she flashbacked to her kiss with EJ and on more than one occasion she has expressed that she wanted more for herself than just sex.

EJ and Nicole are both making attempts to change their lives (not their personalities) but judging by the spoilers Sami is about to do something typically Sami.

You don’t have to repeat history to honor it.
Superb analysis. :applause:
I didn't mean it as condescending or rude or inaccurate. It is simply how I view the idea of Nicole's paternity test. I have brought up many instances where history is violated and some people have indicated they don't care about history. They just enjoy the current story for what it is. I was referring to those who don't care about history (you as in a global 'you', not a personal 'you'). Nothing wrong with being like that. It's not the way I watch, but there's nothing wrong with watching it that way. I would be alot happier if I could watch that way, but for me it makes it worthless to watch when what I'm watching changes daily, so it does ruin my enjoyment.

I'm sorry if I worded it badly. Perhaps I should have said:
Imo, if you've seen Nicole as she was portrayed historically, it makes perfect sense that EJ would want a paternity test. I think it was well established that she would go trolling for guys. If you think she's not promiscuous, it doesn't. Does that read better?

I really don't want to debate Nicole anymore, but I do like reading your perspective even if I don't see everything the same way. I have never disputed that they have given her a background that would allow for redemption. I just haven't seen her feel one bit sorry for anything she's done. She's sorry for losing the money, but not about how she used people to get the money. If they are going the redemption way, then I'd like to see her admit that marrying a man just for his money is wrong and try to live without leeching off of another person. Try to change even if she fails. I personally don't equate being bored with her life as regret about what she's done and wanting to be a better person.

I hope I made my thoughts clearer not worse.
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Oct 1 2008, 11:10 AM
But that's still a difference of opinion. I don't believe that the Nicole who'd try to kill someone as powerful as Victor Kiriakis would have allowed Trent to waltz back into town, terrorize her, and blackmail her. I can understand where the people who feel that that is true to character are coming from, but it doesn't work for me.
I feel the same way. Thanks.
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Oct 1 2008, 10:15 AM
Uh...OK. But for the record neither Paxton nor myself even hinted at Lumi or Ejole. We were only discussing the unlikelihood that Sami loves EJ.

Given that you think that Sami loves EJ you might have some insight as to why Sami wouldn't just tell EJ.

Guess I was wrong.
Welll, I'm not Pearly, but I can take a stab at this.

Right now, Sami's alone with no means of support other than her children's fathers. She was going to try to get a job, but that just became a lot more difficult considering she's pregnant--and she didn't exactly have that many prospects to begin with. The last time she was pregnant, EJ was threatening to steal custody before the baby was born. And he was in love with her then. Now, he's dating her enemy, and he's basically told Sami that he doesn't care about her at all anymore other than as Johnny's mother. And he's already talked about custody. Is it that surprising that she would want to think things through before telling him they're going to have another baby?
It makes sense only if I set aside the scene of them going over her resume but I appreciate your thoughts. Thanks for sharing.
I loved those scenes, but to me, ten minutes of getting along doesn't wipe out multiple arguments where he basically called her a spoiled brat, and said he thought Johny might be better off without her. And, to make matters worse, he's talked about Nicole making a wonderful stepmother. And, of course, Sami's not allowed to mention that Nicole was a horrible stepmother to Will.

Sami's had guys flip flop on her before. Brandon loved her until they actually got together, and then it was all Lexie all the time. Austin said he loved her, and then he found out she lied about Lucas hiitting Will. Lucas said he loved her any number of times only to change his mind. I do think she loves EJ, but they're not in a relationship. Not even close. At this point, I'd say even friends is iffy. And I don't blame her for being scared to death.
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Oct 1 2008, 10:30 AM
My apologies to you if I presumed you were debating for a fanbase.

However, yes, you were wrong. I don't have any insight on what the writers will do. We can sit here and speculate 'til kingdom come but we'll never know what's gonna happen until it's on our screens. So, no, I don't have insight, none of us do, no matter which couple or character you are or aren't rooting for. Who knows how Sami, Nicole, EJ or any one character on the show will be written in the future. History on this show obviously means nothing.

Regardless, I stand firm on my opinion that Sami does love EJ and I don't have to explain my opinion or theory to anyone.

really? you think?

I've often seen posters remark, "She never would have done that." or "That's classic Sami" and "Wash, rinse, repeat"

The reason I like the writing for Nicole so far is that she is acting true to her character. Yes her character is evolving but it the writers have her evolving and behaving in away that makes sense for someone that has been through what she has.

Oh well, I guess same old Sami has always acted in an inexplicably idiotic manner. She has that going for her and apparently, some people like it.



Again, difference of opinion. Nicole is not being written now as she was during her first run, not by a long shot. It may make sense how she is reacting NOW but it does not fit to how her character WAS written, historically.

Funny you say that Sami has always acted in an inexplicably idiotic manner because that's just how I feel about how Nicole is being written now. I guess you can say "She has that going for her and apparently, some people like it".

Really? It wasn't revealed that Nicole was drugged and forced to do porn as a young teen last time? :shrug:
I imagine you misunderstand me. I'm not saying that Nicole is behaving in the same way she was in the past. I'm saying that Nicole is behaving in a way that coincides with her past.




But that's still a difference of opinion. I don't believe that the Nicole who'd try to kill someone as powerful as Victor Kiriakis would have allowed Trent to waltz back into town, terrorize her, and blackmail her. I can understand where the people who feel that that is true to character are coming from, but it doesn't work for me.
Nicole tried to kill Victor after over a year of tolerating his blackmail, physical/sexual abuse and virtual imprisonment in his home. There was nothing strong or powerful about it.
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I get that Sami is scared...and I understand that.

but no matter what EJ has done or not done, he deserves to know.

Sami has already kept another man's child from him, and this isn't fair to EJ. He cannot make an educated decision about what to do if he doesn't have all the facts.

Sami's only hurting herself with this. I DO think this is typical Sami...I've always thought she lacked brains.
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Oct 1 2008, 11:35 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 10:56 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 10:45 AM
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Oct 1 2008, 10:30 AM
My apologies to you if I presumed you were debating for a fanbase.

However, yes, you were wrong. I don't have any insight on what the writers will do. We can sit here and speculate 'til kingdom come but we'll never know what's gonna happen until it's on our screens. So, no, I don't have insight, none of us do, no matter which couple or character you are or aren't rooting for. Who knows how Sami, Nicole, EJ or any one character on the show will be written in the future. History on this show obviously means nothing.

Regardless, I stand firm on my opinion that Sami does love EJ and I don't have to explain my opinion or theory to anyone.

really? you think?

I've often seen posters remark, "She never would have done that." or "That's classic Sami" and "Wash, rinse, repeat"

The reason I like the writing for Nicole so far is that she is acting true to her character. Yes her character is evolving but it the writers have her evolving and behaving in away that makes sense for someone that has been through what she has.

Oh well, I guess same old Sami has always acted in an inexplicably idiotic manner. She has that going for her and apparently, some people like it.



Again, difference of opinion. Nicole is not being written now as she was during her first run, not by a long shot. It may make sense how she is reacting NOW but it does not fit to how her character WAS written, historically.

Funny you say that Sami has always acted in an inexplicably idiotic manner because that's just how I feel about how Nicole is being written now. I guess you can say "She has that going for her and apparently, some people like it".

Really? It wasn't revealed that Nicole was drugged and forced to do porn as a young teen last time? :shrug:
I imagine you misunderstand me. I'm not saying that Nicole is behaving in the same way she was in the past. I'm saying that Nicole is behaving in a way that coincides with her past.




But that's still a difference of opinion. I don't believe that the Nicole who'd try to kill someone as powerful as Victor Kiriakis would have allowed Trent to waltz back into town, terrorize her, and blackmail her. I can understand where the people who feel that that is true to character are coming from, but it doesn't work for me.
Nicole tried to kill Victor after over a year of tolerating his blackmail, physical/sexual abuse and virtual imprisonment in his home. There was nothing strong or powerful about it.
Victor's not known for his far reaching connections and power? I guess that's another thing we'll agree to disagree on. I don't recall him sexually abusing her, but if he did, she got sick of it and tried to kill him. Then she came back to Salem and moved right into his house, paying no attention to his threats. She also tried to kill Colin when he blackmailed her. I still don't think someone who took on Victor would be pushed around by Trent.
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My apologies to you if I presumed you were debating for a fanbase.

However, yes, you were wrong. I don't have any insight on what the writers will do. We can sit here and speculate 'til kingdom come but we'll never know what's gonna happen until it's on our screens. So, no, I don't have insight, none of us do, no matter which couple or character you are or aren't rooting for. Who knows how Sami, Nicole, EJ or any one character on the show will be written in the future. History on this show obviously means nothing.

Regardless, I stand firm on my opinion that Sami does love EJ and I don't have to explain my opinion or theory to anyone.

really? you think?

I've often seen posters remark, "She never would have done that." or "That's classic Sami" and "Wash, rinse, repeat"

The reason I like the writing for Nicole so far is that she is acting true to her character. Yes her character is evolving but it the writers have her evolving and behaving in away that makes sense for someone that has been through what she has.

Oh well, I guess same old Sami has always acted in an inexplicably idiotic manner. She has that going for her and apparently, some people like it.



Again, difference of opinion. Nicole is not being written now as she was during her first run, not by a long shot. It may make sense how she is reacting NOW but it does not fit to how her character WAS written, historically.

Funny you say that Sami has always acted in an inexplicably idiotic manner because that's just how I feel about how Nicole is being written now. I guess you can say "She has that going for her and apparently, some people like it".

Really? It wasn't revealed that Nicole was drugged and forced to do porn as a young teen last time? :shrug:
I imagine you misunderstand me. I'm not saying that Nicole is behaving in the same way she was in the past. I'm saying that Nicole is behaving in a way that coincides with her past.




But that's still a difference of opinion. I don't believe that the Nicole who'd try to kill someone as powerful as Victor Kiriakis would have allowed Trent to waltz back into town, terrorize her, and blackmail her. I can understand where the people who feel that that is true to character are coming from, but it doesn't work for me.
Nicole tried to kill Victor after over a year of tolerating his blackmail, physical/sexual abuse and virtual imprisonment in his home. There was nothing strong or powerful about it.
Victor's not known for his far reaching connections and power? I guess that's another thing we'll agree to disagree on. I don't recall him sexually abusing her, but if he did, she got sick of it and tried to kill him. Then she came back to Salem and moved right into his house, paying no attention to his threats. She also tried to kill Colin when he blackmailed her. I still don't think someone who took on Victor would be pushed around by Trent.
OK to all of you. But where are J&M?
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