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Nick/Melanie SOD article; Blake Berris speaks...
Topic Started: Nov 5 2008, 03:35 AM (1,368 Views)
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GET EM STEPH!!

No one posted this and I can't post the whole article (kind of pointless as most of the stuff already happened this week anyway) but since so many mentioned how they are having trouble understanding Nick's motivation for what he is doing to Melanie, I thought I would post this quote from Blake in which he addresses the issue. The article is from the 11/11/08 SOD.

Here it is: "One by one, she's alienated a lot of people, and since Nick is the only one who is there for her, he needs to make sure she needs him like he needs her, and he exploits her vulnerability," explains Berris of his alter ego's motivation. "Being able to be there for her outweighs how hard it is for him to see her in this horrible situation. He gets to spend more time with her and be her hero."

He goes on to say: "There's a lot of emotion clouding Nick's clarity of mind, but I think what he wants is to be with Melanie and he's going to do anything he can to make that happen."

Sounds reasonable to me. Hope this provides some insight to those who were having issues with his motivation behind his actions in regards to the letters and phone call.
Edited by PhoenixRising05, Nov 5 2008, 03:35 AM.
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Nicole Walker


Now that's truly pathetic. Melanie is a witch.
Edited by Nicole Walker, Nov 5 2008, 03:41 AM.
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I still worry they are taking this too far for MICK to come out of. I love Chick too but I had really gotten into the idea of loving the Melanie/Nick/Chelsea triangle. After seeing today's show, I'm not sure Mick can come back, they really do have chemistry.

Again, it's not that I will hate Chick (obviously I won't) but they had an opportunity for a new couple and do them "right". Now it feels like they ruined their chance.
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Sounds like EJ 2006.
I guess I have to get used to new Nick. I still don't know if he is going crazy or becoming pyscho with her or truly likes her.

Thanks for sharing!
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That just makes Nick sound pathetic, not the strong character Hogan created in November 2006, the character that put Chelsea in her place when no other character could.
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Why the hell does Nick "need" Melanie? He's known her for all of what, ten minutes?
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Nov 5 2008, 11:36 AM
Why the hell does Nick "need" Melanie? He's known her for all of what, ten minutes?
Maybe he "needs" Melanie to help him try and forget his feelings for Chelsea. I really hope they pull the plug on Mick. I've never liked the pairing and this whole story just makes both characters looks pathetic.
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I just can't get into this storyline for some reason. It gets two big "who cares" from me!
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What Nick is doing, doesn't want me to root for Nick. Stalking someone isn't cool even if it is Melanie who isn't all that likable. Are they going to use his "obsession" to make Melanie look sympathetic?
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Well, fuck I don't like Melanie..so I really don't feel anything for her. I'm just glad Blake is getting some meaty material to latch onto...I definitely believe he is in some kind of druggie trance and add that with maybe some mental illness...but hell with the way people have treated Nick in Salem, I think he's allow to crack up every once in a while.

here is some great observation from TWOP:

Then has his alter taken over entirely? Because right now I see nothing remotely resembling the real Nick. I see this really evil person pretending to be the real Nick. Maybe Nick's split is the dominant personality which is highly likely if the split took place after he killed Trent and therefore the original personality is "hiding". This is going to be a strange comparison, but there's this video game that my brother and I loved about 10 years ago called "Xenogears" and by the end of the story it was revealed that the main character suffered from MPD and was, in fact, the villain of the story as well as the hero. It's been a while since I played it, but as I recall that character split into three - the "coward" personality was the original one but because of a traumatic event in his life, he split into "the destroyer" and then the main character the player controlled. Now, to make the comparison to Nick, perhaps Nick's main personality could be considered the "coward" meaning that the traumatic event (i.e: killing Trent) caused that personality to go into hiding and to hide, in essence, behind "the destroyer" personality or the personality we see right now; perhaps as a means to be more in control and powerful. As the dominant personality, "the destroyer" would be privy to all of Nick's memories and relations whereas the real Nick wouldn't be privy to anything "the destroyer" does. Didn't Days do something like this with Kimberly? I seem to recall one of her splits killing someone but the real Kimberly not knowing about it. Most likely, though, they'll go with the tride and true "My medication made me do it!".
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I do agree with that. It does make him pathetic but when has Nick been a strong character? He never was to me. The way he chased after Chelsea in 2007 at times was pathetic. The way he got blackmailed by Kate and Willow (he did turn the tables on Kate though), got used by Jeremy, stood in the background during the entire rape story, etc. I mean, it's not like this guy was Bo Brady running all over Salem saving lives, letting people have it, and so on. I think he's in character for the most part and think between Chelsea dumping him and everything else...he was just in a vulnerable state.

Here is a little blurb from another article on this subject in SOW.

Blake: "This is the best stuff I've ever had on the show, and the writers are making the transition believable. It's not like, 'Now Nick is a crazy, psycho creep.' Circumstances have created this."
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If he's gonna do all this for a girl it should at least be for a girl that's actually worth it. Melanie is an azz and she don't truly care about Nick.
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Nov 6 2008, 01:35 AM
I do agree with that. It does make him pathetic but when has Nick been a strong character? He never was to me. The way he chased after Chelsea in 2007 at times was pathetic. The way he got blackmailed by Kate and Willow (he did turn the tables on Kate though), got used by Jeremy, stood in the background during the entire rape story, etc. I mean, it's not like this guy was Bo Brady running all over Salem saving lives, letting people have it, and so on. I think he's in character for the most part and think between Chelsea dumping him and everything else...he was just in a vulnerable state.
Nick was a very strong character. Think about it. He was the one person that really turned Chelsea around, made her see what a selfish and bratty bitch she was being towards everyone. When no one else could get through to Chelsea, Nick was able to. That's a strong person there. He also did the same for Willow. She started regretting some of the things she did because Nick told her how it was and didn't take her shit at first. Granted, he got mixed up with a lot of bad things concerning Willow, and Chelsea, but he wasn't opposed to telling them how it was.

As for the Jeremy stuff, I tend to ignore that because none of the characters were acting in character during the Touch the Sky storyline, not Chelsea, not Stephanie, not Max, and not Nick. And in regards to the rape storyline, Nick wanted to be there for Chelsea. He tried to be there for Chelsea, but she kept it the truth from him for most of the part. But he was there right by her side before Ford died, sneaking into Ford's room with Chelsea and taking all of those pictures of Ford's dorm room in hopes that it would make him look guilty of the rapes. He was there and was willing to do it all.

He's never came off as pathetic to me until now with Melanie. The way he needs Melanie. Give me a break! Had this been Chelsea in this position, okay, I could understand his reasoning and I could understand his actions because he needs to be with her. But Melanie? That's pathetic. He's known her for only a couple months and it's ridiculous to think that he's this obsessed with her.
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Yeah, I always saw Nick as a strong character, and one that stood out in a crowd. Now he's just so commonplace. I definitely think there was that "geek" side of Hogan that infused romances like Nick/Chelsea (and Adam/Abigail on ATWT) with a spark of life that his successors either never understood, or just didn't find romantic or attractive. Which is fine - not saying they have to. It's their show and they can do what they want. But I've noticed it at both shows now. (And I'm curious to see if Noah/Eden ends up taking that route as well now that he's on Y&R)

And Tim, I hate to be the lone dissenter on this, but just because the actors say to the press "This is the best writing I've ever had", it doesn't mean much, whether it's SOD, SOW, or Michael Fairman. They said it under Reilly: Part Deux, they said it under Hogan, they said it under Dena/Ed, and they're saying it now. It's like all the actors saying to the press during Higley-Gate "We had no idea what was going on, but yeah, I guess it's a little tense". Really? It's called keeping their heads down low and not saying anything to rock the boat. Especially with all of their jobs on the line, and the fate of the show still in the air. NOBODY is going to say "I don't like the material they're giving me" at this point in time, ESPECIALLY not to the press.
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Nov 6 2008, 02:38 PM
PhoenixRising05
Nov 6 2008, 01:35 AM
I do agree with that. It does make him pathetic but when has Nick been a strong character? He never was to me. The way he chased after Chelsea in 2007 at times was pathetic. The way he got blackmailed by Kate and Willow (he did turn the tables on Kate though), got used by Jeremy, stood in the background during the entire rape story, etc. I mean, it's not like this guy was Bo Brady running all over Salem saving lives, letting people have it, and so on. I think he's in character for the most part and think between Chelsea dumping him and everything else...he was just in a vulnerable state.
Nick was a very strong character. Think about it. He was the one person that really turned Chelsea around, made her see what a selfish and bratty bitch she was being towards everyone. When no one else could get through to Chelsea, Nick was able to. That's a strong person there. He also did the same for Willow. She started regretting some of the things she did because Nick told her how it was and didn't take her shit at first. Granted, he got mixed up with a lot of bad things concerning Willow, and Chelsea, but he wasn't opposed to telling them how it was.

As for the Jeremy stuff, I tend to ignore that because none of the characters were acting in character during the Touch the Sky storyline, not Chelsea, not Stephanie, not Max, and not Nick. And in regards to the rape storyline, Nick wanted to be there for Chelsea. He tried to be there for Chelsea, but she kept it the truth from him for most of the part. But he was there right by her side before Ford died, sneaking into Ford's room with Chelsea and taking all of those pictures of Ford's dorm room in hopes that it would make him look guilty of the rapes. He was there and was willing to do it all.

He's never came off as pathetic to me until now with Melanie. The way he needs Melanie. Give me a break! Had this been Chelsea in this position, okay, I could understand his reasoning and I could understand his actions because he needs to be with her. But Melanie? That's pathetic. He's known her for only a couple months and it's ridiculous to think that he's this obsessed with her.
But Nick was always obsessed with bad sexy girls. Itīs his weakness. And he never was the honest and stright guy who would just go to the girl and ask her out. He knows and/or believes he would never win that way. He fell in love with Chelsea when she was almost a prostitute, trying to seduce much older guy who dated her mum and he was able to create this whole complicated and elaborate scheme how to get close to her.

And Melanie? He was totally into her months before Max even knew she is his sister. He was watching her personal blog, studying and having all the kinds of fantasizes about a young girl from France he had never chance to meet in person. Nick is no Max and/or Phillip. He is no womanizer. He is an insecure geek with a brain of genius who has a tendency to scheme and lie when it comes to women. So I think this stuff is very in character for him.

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Nov 6 2008, 01:35 AM
I do agree with that. It does make him pathetic but when has Nick been a strong character? He never was to me. The way he chased after Chelsea in 2007 at times was pathetic. The way he got blackmailed by Kate and Willow (he did turn the tables on Kate though), got used by Jeremy, stood in the background during the entire rape story, etc. I mean, it's not like this guy was Bo Brady running all over Salem saving lives, letting people have it, and so on. I think he's in character for the most part and think between Chelsea dumping him and everything else...he was just in a vulnerable state.
Nick was a very strong character. Think about it. He was the one person that really turned Chelsea around, made her see what a selfish and bratty bitch she was being towards everyone. When no one else could get through to Chelsea, Nick was able to. That's a strong person there. He also did the same for Willow. She started regretting some of the things she did because Nick told her how it was and didn't take her shit at first. Granted, he got mixed up with a lot of bad things concerning Willow, and Chelsea, but he wasn't opposed to telling them how it was.

As for the Jeremy stuff, I tend to ignore that because none of the characters were acting in character during the Touch the Sky storyline, not Chelsea, not Stephanie, not Max, and not Nick. And in regards to the rape storyline, Nick wanted to be there for Chelsea. He tried to be there for Chelsea, but she kept it the truth from him for most of the part. But he was there right by her side before Ford died, sneaking into Ford's room with Chelsea and taking all of those pictures of Ford's dorm room in hopes that it would make him look guilty of the rapes. He was there and was willing to do it all.

He's never came off as pathetic to me until now with Melanie. The way he needs Melanie. Give me a break! Had this been Chelsea in this position, okay, I could understand his reasoning and I could understand his actions because he needs to be with her. But Melanie? That's pathetic. He's known her for only a couple months and it's ridiculous to think that he's this obsessed with her.
Good points, Drew. For my own opinion, I admit Nick has had some weak moments. It took awhile for him to stand up to Willow. It's one thing for him to help someone else or go out of his way to help someone else, but Willow moving into his bedroom and he sleeping on teh board even though Maggie would hit the roof was stupid.

That said, Nick's been pretty strong lately. He's not been on much but he's been supportive of Chelsea. I loved how he and she snuck into Ford's room. Granted Nick didn't want to go but IMO that wasn't weak but more finetuned to knowing how to "handle" Chelsea (since the show wants to use that word). He knew if he refused, she'd go anyway, he might as well go to. What I loved is a quick moment where Chelsea wanted to rush out of the closet and Nick held her back, showing how their differences could make them a great couple and then later he did get in Ford's face when he threatened Chelsea. Once Nick found out about Fordgate, he was strong and did not back down insisting Chelsea come forward but he didn't betray her at the same time. He knew it was something she had to do, and once she did it, he stood behind her. He was strong in confronting Mad when he was monkeying around his work. He was strong with Dan when they dared to allow Nick an episode to see his girlfriend mooning over the hot doctor who had no business hanging out with her. He was strong with Melanie initially in France.

Right now I'm worried because Blake is making good sense explaining Nick's problems. I think Nick's obsession is being driven by something else which I'm hoping is where the mental illness story is going. Hopefully the show will explore it and not just let SOW/SOD articles tell us the character's motivation. Once this whole thing is made clear to Nick's family and friends, they are gonna want to kow what happened to him to make him do this and that should be what the shrink is for. The show is lucky in it that it can use most of what has happened to Nick for this year as leverage to setup his mental breakdown which was pushed into a breaking point by the drugs he was assigned. Nick has always wanted to be in a happy relationship with someone who loves and depends on him, and it's clear he's not in reality right now. But again, all of this must be accurately explained by the writers so that he can recover and be back to the original Nick. Finding out if they can pull off the explanations is the part that remains to be unseen.
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Nov 6 2008, 02:38 PM
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Nov 6 2008, 01:35 AM
I do agree with that. It does make him pathetic but when has Nick been a strong character? He never was to me. The way he chased after Chelsea in 2007 at times was pathetic. The way he got blackmailed by Kate and Willow (he did turn the tables on Kate though), got used by Jeremy, stood in the background during the entire rape story, etc. I mean, it's not like this guy was Bo Brady running all over Salem saving lives, letting people have it, and so on. I think he's in character for the most part and think between Chelsea dumping him and everything else...he was just in a vulnerable state.
Nick was a very strong character. Think about it. He was the one person that really turned Chelsea around, made her see what a selfish and bratty bitch she was being towards everyone. When no one else could get through to Chelsea, Nick was able to. That's a strong person there. He also did the same for Willow. She started regretting some of the things she did because Nick told her how it was and didn't take her shit at first. Granted, he got mixed up with a lot of bad things concerning Willow, and Chelsea, but he wasn't opposed to telling them how it was.

As for the Jeremy stuff, I tend to ignore that because none of the characters were acting in character during the Touch the Sky storyline, not Chelsea, not Stephanie, not Max, and not Nick. And in regards to the rape storyline, Nick wanted to be there for Chelsea. He tried to be there for Chelsea, but she kept it the truth from him for most of the part. But he was there right by her side before Ford died, sneaking into Ford's room with Chelsea and taking all of those pictures of Ford's dorm room in hopes that it would make him look guilty of the rapes. He was there and was willing to do it all.

He's never came off as pathetic to me until now with Melanie. The way he needs Melanie. Give me a break! Had this been Chelsea in this position, okay, I could understand his reasoning and I could understand his actions because he needs to be with her. But Melanie? That's pathetic. He's known her for only a couple months and it's ridiculous to think that he's this obsessed with her.
Let me explain why I disagree.

First off, look at how Nick let Chelsea hold his sleeping with Billie over his head for so long, much like she just did with Chelsea and Danil only Kate put a stop to that quick. I can understand him taking it from her initially but for MONTHS he sat back and took it and he had no right to. He wasn't with Chelsea when he slept with Billie, just like Chelsea wasn't with Daniel. Yet, Nick let Chelsea hold that over him and she used that to manipulate him. Remember the hair brush fiasco? She used what he put her through and put on the charm to use him and manipulate him into getting rid of the brush. He was her doormat.

I know your a Willow fan but he was a doormat for her too. The way he let her manipulate him was just as bad as what happened with Chelsea, if not worse.. He was such a sucker. I can understand being a good guy but come on. He let her screw with him so much he nearly lost everything.

Then there is how he allowed Kate to blackmail him over the hairbrush incident. Yes, he did turn the tables on her eventually and that is probably one of the few instance where he showed strength as a character but that took him how long to get to that point? About two months. Meanwhile, he kept the truth and let Kate blackmail him.

Then there's how Nick allowed Chelsea to string him along all summer and how he pathetically chased after her. Remember his gambling to try to win money to impress her and the way he ran to her when he did win? Very similar to Nick and Melanie now only Melanie loves it and Chelsea could care less. i realize TTS was a horrible story but Nick was barely a part of it so he's fair game IMO. He was more involved with Kate/Sami/Lucas/EJ and then got involved briefly and became isolated when he got the kids, which brings me to my next point. The way he let China Lee walk all over him too. How many times did he buy into her BS? Again, he was being nice but it was pretty damn obvious she was taking him for a ride.

I also have to say that the way he quickly reunited with Chelsea after how she strung him along and treated him doesn't help his character either. He never once went off on her for how unfair she was and she was unfair.

I should not have brought up the rape story as Nick didn't really have a big role in that but, then again, when Chelsea went on her crusade to get rid of Ford and broke into his room, Nick went along with it. He clearly hated it but said nothing to Chelsea. Just went along with it. Again, I will say that there was one instance where Nick was strong and firm and that was when he learned the truth about Ford and pushed Chelsea to tell the truth. He was quite vocal about that.

Nick is one who can easily be influenced. Earlier this year, when Morgan was flirting with him, he bought it hook, line, and sinker. I know he's told Chelsea off a few times this year but when the breakup actually happened, he did nothing. Just moped and took it.

Yes, he did change Chelsea. He was a catlayst to her changing but circumstances changed Chelsea too. Her changes started when Bo disowned her and she made up for it by helping Shawn to learn he was Claire's father. Nick just furthered the changes along and helped her stay the course. Is he an influential character? Yeah. Is he unique? Definitely. That is why I will agree with brimike on his point that Nick has lost his uniqueness but that happened a long time ago. That actually happened back under Hogan. Characters do change and Nick has been through so much that I find it logical that he has changed and I can see why he feels he NEEDS Melanie. He lost Chelsea after everything they went through. He had nothing else but work in his life. He really has nobody. Melanie comes into his life and now he has someone. Someone who showed interest toward him. Someone he likes and feels sorry for. Someone he started out helping but grew closer too. With everything Nick has been through (including what he did for her in regards to Trent), I can see why he feels he needs her now more then ever.

And brimike, I realize what your saying but body language says alot too. For one, they actors hardly praised JER his second time except during the SSK story and Zack's death. Other then that, not much praise at all. During the scandal this summer, hardly anyone said anything at all. Problems backstage were hardly mentioned. Those that did comment did so after it all blew over and they did make light of it. My point is that I don't think any actor says something is the best work they have ever gotten without meaning it. Sure, they can something is good or whatever but Blake's making it personal, saying he's never had better material. That is why I buy into it. I know actors and such try to sell things but when they make it persona, I put more stock in it. He has no reason to say that unless he believes it.
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Nov 6 2008, 01:35 AM
I do agree with that. It does make him pathetic but when has Nick been a strong character? He never was to me. The way he chased after Chelsea in 2007 at times was pathetic. The way he got blackmailed by Kate and Willow (he did turn the tables on Kate though), got used by Jeremy, stood in the background during the entire rape story, etc. I mean, it's not like this guy was Bo Brady running all over Salem saving lives, letting people have it, and so on. I think he's in character for the most part and think between Chelsea dumping him and everything else...he was just in a vulnerable state.
Nick was a very strong character. Think about it. He was the one person that really turned Chelsea around, made her see what a selfish and bratty bitch she was being towards everyone. When no one else could get through to Chelsea, Nick was able to. That's a strong person there. He also did the same for Willow. She started regretting some of the things she did because Nick told her how it was and didn't take her shit at first. Granted, he got mixed up with a lot of bad things concerning Willow, and Chelsea, but he wasn't opposed to telling them how it was.

As for the Jeremy stuff, I tend to ignore that because none of the characters were acting in character during the Touch the Sky storyline, not Chelsea, not Stephanie, not Max, and not Nick. And in regards to the rape storyline, Nick wanted to be there for Chelsea. He tried to be there for Chelsea, but she kept it the truth from him for most of the part. But he was there right by her side before Ford died, sneaking into Ford's room with Chelsea and taking all of those pictures of Ford's dorm room in hopes that it would make him look guilty of the rapes. He was there and was willing to do it all.

He's never came off as pathetic to me until now with Melanie. The way he needs Melanie. Give me a break! Had this been Chelsea in this position, okay, I could understand his reasoning and I could understand his actions because he needs to be with her. But Melanie? That's pathetic. He's known her for only a couple months and it's ridiculous to think that he's this obsessed with her.
Good points, Drew. For my own opinion, I admit Nick has had some weak moments. It took awhile for him to stand up to Willow. It's one thing for him to help someone else or go out of his way to help someone else, but Willow moving into his bedroom and he sleeping on teh board even though Maggie would hit the roof was stupid.

That said, Nick's been pretty strong lately. He's not been on much but he's been supportive of Chelsea. I loved how he and she snuck into Ford's room. Granted Nick didn't want to go but IMO that wasn't weak but more finetuned to knowing how to "handle" Chelsea (since the show wants to use that word). He knew if he refused, she'd go anyway, he might as well go to. What I loved is a quick moment where Chelsea wanted to rush out of the closet and Nick held her back, showing how their differences could make them a great couple and then later he did get in Ford's face when he threatened Chelsea. Once Nick found out about Fordgate, he was strong and did not back down insisting Chelsea come forward but he didn't betray her at the same time. He knew it was something she had to do, and once she did it, he stood behind her. He was strong in confronting Mad when he was monkeying around his work. He was strong with Dan when they dared to allow Nick an episode to see his girlfriend mooning over the hot doctor who had no business hanging out with her. He was strong with Melanie initially in France.

Right now I'm worried because Blake is making good sense explaining Nick's problems. I think Nick's obsession is being driven by something else which I'm hoping is where the mental illness story is going. Hopefully the show will explore it and not just let SOW/SOD articles tell us the character's motivation. Once this whole thing is made clear to Nick's family and friends, they are gonna want to kow what happened to him to make him do this and that should be what the shrink is for. The show is lucky in it that it can use most of what has happened to Nick for this year as leverage to setup his mental breakdown which was pushed into a breaking point by the drugs he was assigned. Nick has always wanted to be in a happy relationship with someone who loves and depends on him, and it's clear he's not in reality right now. But again, all of this must be accurately explained by the writers so that he can recover and be back to the original Nick. Finding out if they can pull off the explanations is the part that remains to be unseen.
You know, your take on them sneaking into Ford's room is interesting. I guess I can see how that can be looked at in the terms you are describing.

I think your right on about the mental illness aspect. His fantasies play into that. This isn't Nick. He isn't in his right mind so even if you believe he's a strong character being made pathetic, when you consider this really isn't him, it kind of works against that. It's just like the arguments being made about John never doing half the stuff he did this year to Marlena. Well, it's not technically John so I don;t understand how that assertion works.

If this were Nick in his right mind, then I can see it but, he's not. He's delusional and in his mind thinks he has to have Melanie. He essentially has a one track mind right now and that is not Nick at all.
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Nov 6 2008, 03:23 PM
Sure, they can something is good or whatever but Blake's making it personal, saying he's never had better material. That is why I buy into it. I know actors and such try to sell things but when they make it persona, I put more stock in it. He has no reason to say that unless he believes it.
Well honestly he hasn't. That still doesn't mean this story isn't a mess. I took what Blake said there meaning this is the most CHALLENGING thing he's ever been given on this show and that's true. Even with the Billie!sex reveal, the Willow death and initial concussion story, those were pretty just one shot episode deals that usually still wound up being all about Cheslea's reaction. This is the first story that he's been given that should showcase him from now until the end. But I'm not sure they will dare do that.

I can't disagree Nick has had issues with standing up for himself. But that's another reason why I like him because he's real. I'm sick of characters who are always sure and confident of themselves with false bravado. Nick is probably the most realistic guy on this show because he's an actual average guy who simply wants to find love and success in love. Sometimes he gets things right and other times he screws up but usually learns from his mistake.

So now that all said what they are doing now is making him fairly just 100% crazy. Again, as a Blake fan I can certainly look forward to how he'll act out these scenarios, but what I'm expecting Blake telling us in this article BETTER show up in the writing and explain even more what is driving Nick's obsession. Is it because of just the drugs? Is it a mental illess/split personality? Could Chelsea dumping him but constantly running back to him over and over have something to do with it? How about the fact that the show wants us to believe Max is smarter then NIck, that in itself makes me crazy? These are things that should be addressed but the show has dropped the ball time and time before. I've let it go with some characters I find pretty beloved (Steve coming to mind). But for me to accept Nick as this crazy ass killer who is willing to let "the girl he loves" believe she killed her own father needs to have explanation backing it up.
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Tripp
Nov 6 2008, 03:31 PM
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Nov 6 2008, 03:23 PM
Sure, they can something is good or whatever but Blake's making it personal, saying he's never had better material. That is why I buy into it. I know actors and such try to sell things but when they make it persona, I put more stock in it. He has no reason to say that unless he believes it.
Well honestly he hasn't. That still doesn't mean this story isn't a mess. I took what Blake said there meaning this is the most CHALLENGING thing he's ever been given on this show and that's true. Even with the Billie!sex reveal, the Willow death and initial concussion story, those were pretty just one shot episode deals that usually still wound up being all about Cheslea's reaction. This is the first story that he's been given that should showcase him from now until the end. But I'm not sure they will dare do that.

I can't disagree Nick has had issues with standing up for himself. But that's another reason why I like him because he's real. I'm sick of characters who are always sure and confident of themselves with false bravado. Nick is probably the most realistic guy on this show because he's an actual average guy who simply wants to find love and success in love. Sometimes he gets things right and other times he screws up but usually learns from his mistake.

So now that all said what they are doing now is making him fairly just 100% crazy. Again, as a Blake fan I can certainly look forward to how he'll act out these scenarios, but what I'm expecting Blake telling us in this article BETTER show up in the writing and explain even more what is driving Nick's obsession. Is it because of just the drugs? Is it a mental illess/split personality? Could Chelsea dumping him but constantly running back to him over and over have something to do with it? How about the fact that the show wants us to believe Max is smarter then NIck, that in itself makes me crazy? These are things that should be addressed but the show has dropped the ball time and time before. I've let it go with some characters I find pretty beloved (Steve coming to mind). But for me to accept Nick as this crazy ass killer who is willing to let "the girl he loves" believe she killed her own father needs to have explanation backing it up.
Right. If the writing doesn't back what is being said up, then I will be upset myself. I just believe the explanation thus far is fine.

I don't quite know how to respond to what you said in the first paragraph of your post. I think he has made it personal but your right in that Blake has not had much to work with so it's not like there is a large sample size. That is a good point. One of the reasons I like this story is that it's a character story. Yes, it ties to his wanting Melanie but it's about him and, ultimately, will be about him trying to come back from this and trying to reclaim his sanity and his life. It very much is about him and it's stories like that the show needs more of and not just couple stories.
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