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Massive, Across the Board Paycuts; at ABC Daytime?
Topic Started: Nov 26 2008, 08:13 AM (1,751 Views)
miche


A source close to ABC Daytime says Mouse House daytime employees were all informed they would have to take across the board paycuts.

"It affects everyone, actors, writers, producers," says the source.

I guess it could be worse. They could work for NBC. Keep checking back to Daytime Confidential as the story develops.
http://www.daytimeconfidential.com/2008/11/breaking-news-massive-across-the-board-paycuts-at-abc-daytime
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miche
Nov 26 2008, 08:13 AM
A source close to ABC Daytime says Mouse House daytime employees were all informed they would have to take across the board paycuts.

"It affects everyone, actors, writers, producers," says the source.

I guess it could be worse. They could work for NBC. Keep checking back to Daytime Confidential as the story develops.
http://www.daytimeconfidential.com/2008/11/breaking-news-massive-across-the-board-paycuts-at-abc-daytime
It could be worse if they were on NBC. I bet they don't decide to up and fire Suan Lucci or Erika Slezak though. Just a wild guess in the dark.
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Well, Erika Slezak maybe - she's not an icon like Lucci. Doubt it would come to that though, most of their actors are on first or 2nd term contracts.

I wonder how Y&R is able to stay afloat. You dont hear rumblings from their camp about paycuts and layoffs, yet they can keep Braeden, Scott, both Davidsons, Diamont, Bergman, Walton, Cooper, Case, Stafford and Morrow and they've mostly all been there atleast 20 years.
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Sharongate, bitches!

Drew
Nov 26 2008, 10:20 AM
I wonder how Y&R is able to stay afloat. You dont hear rumblings from their camp about paycuts and layoffs, yet they can keep Braeden, Scott, both Davidsons, Diamont, Bergman, Walton, Cooper, Case, Stafford and Morrow and they've mostly all been there atleast 20 years.
Back in 2005, Jack F. Smith bitched and complained that Y&R's budget was declining, that's why he had to get rid of some supporting/younger players.

However, Y&R's been building more sets lately, and bringing back some older sets. That all costs a ton of money, and they've kept a lot of their veteran performers. I think the Bell's manage Y&R and B&B's budget quite well, and maybe Y&R's recent exposure to various internet distributors has helped in brining in some decent revenue. Y&R also demands the same ad rates it demanded two-three years ago, when it's fallen for most other soaps.
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e83talus
Nov 26 2008, 08:25 AM
miche
Nov 26 2008, 08:13 AM
A source close to ABC Daytime says Mouse House daytime employees were all informed they would have to take across the board paycuts.

"It affects everyone, actors, writers, producers," says the source.

I guess it could be worse. They could work for NBC. Keep checking back to Daytime Confidential as the story develops.
http://www.daytimeconfidential.com/2008/11/breaking-news-massive-across-the-board-paycuts-at-abc-daytime
It could be worse if they were on NBC. I bet they don't decide to up and fire Suan Lucci or Erika Slezak though. Just a wild guess in the dark.
I think they'll be watching DAYS ratings once Drake & Deidre leave. I would not be surprised if we start seeing vets getting fired if DAYS ratings stay the same.
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Nov 26 2008, 10:27 AM
Drew
Nov 26 2008, 10:20 AM
I wonder how Y&R is able to stay afloat. You dont hear rumblings from their camp about paycuts and layoffs, yet they can keep Braeden, Scott, both Davidsons, Diamont, Bergman, Walton, Cooper, Case, Stafford and Morrow and they've mostly all been there atleast 20 years.
Back in 2005, Jack F. Smith bitched and complained that Y&R's budget was declining, that's why he had to get rid of some supporting/younger players.

However, Y&R's been building more sets lately, and bringing back some older sets. That all costs a ton of money, and they've kept a lot of their veteran performers. I think the Bell's manage Y&R and B&B's budget quite well, and maybe Y&R's recent exposure to various internet distributors has helped in brining in some decent revenue. Y&R also demands the same ad rates it demanded two-three years ago, when it's fallen for most other soaps.
Dont the Bells bring in revenue from selling Y&R and B&B on the international market? Maybe that helps...
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DAYS is just the first show to experience the symptoms, but they'll all do it eventually.

ABC is next.

CBS after that, but still a few years off.

I think when all is said and done and one looks back on soap history, one will be able to see NBC actually started shooting itself in the foot twenty years ago with SB's cancellation. DEFINITELY ten years ago with AW's cancellation. NBC has been well on its way for years. The industry has been dying, but they didn't do themselves any favors over the years.
Edited by King, Nov 26 2008, 02:35 PM.
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I'm not surprised..ABC Daytime isn't doing much better in the ratings...If i were Tony Geary i would be worried..
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e83talus
Nov 26 2008, 08:25 AM
I bet they don't decide to up and fire Susan Lucci or Erika Slezak though.
SO true!
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I don't know. I'm with Drew. I think Slezak is up in the air.
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Guess Rebecca Budig is leaving AMC/ABC just in the nick of time! ;)
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Nubia
Nov 26 2008, 10:31 AM
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Nov 26 2008, 10:27 AM
Drew
Nov 26 2008, 10:20 AM
I wonder how Y&R is able to stay afloat. You dont hear rumblings from their camp about paycuts and layoffs, yet they can keep Braeden, Scott, both Davidsons, Diamont, Bergman, Walton, Cooper, Case, Stafford and Morrow and they've mostly all been there atleast 20 years.
Back in 2005, Jack F. Smith bitched and complained that Y&R's budget was declining, that's why he had to get rid of some supporting/younger players.

However, Y&R's been building more sets lately, and bringing back some older sets. That all costs a ton of money, and they've kept a lot of their veteran performers. I think the Bell's manage Y&R and B&B's budget quite well, and maybe Y&R's recent exposure to various internet distributors has helped in brining in some decent revenue. Y&R also demands the same ad rates it demanded two-three years ago, when it's fallen for most other soaps.
Dont the Bells bring in revenue from selling Y&R and B&B on the international market? Maybe that helps...
that's true. The non-Bell soaps dont have that international revenue. Days is the only other one that really has much of a presence outside North America, and i've heard of it being dropped in places like the UK and others. Same with the other shows that have made the jump across the pond, most have failed and been dropped.

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Sharongate, bitches!

According to Daytime Confidential, Agnes Nixon confirmed these budget cuts in a recent interview.

http://www.daytimeconfidential.com/2008/11...ildren-pay-cuts
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This just in. All My Children and One Life to Live creator Agnes Nixon has confirmed to Advertising Age that massive pay cuts have indeeed taken place at one of her two ABC soaps!

"All the actors on 'All My Children' have been reduced [in salary]," said creator Agnes Nixon, who also created the ABC soap "One Life to Live" and is now a paid consultant to the network's daytime division. "Susan Lucci, Michael Knight and Ray McDonald have all been reduced -- substantially. And so have I, as a consultant. The ratings are not the same."

In addition to ratings woes, the article cites the pisspoor state of the American automobile industry, a one-time strong advertiser during soap broadcasts, as reason for the economic hardships facing daytime television.

"The affiliate stations are really hurting because the automobile dealers don't advertise [like they used to]," Ms. Nixon said. "It's a ripple-down effect."
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Nov 26 2008, 02:34 PM
CBS after that, but still a few years off.
ATWT and GL are already experiencing massive hemoprraging at the hands of Goutman/Wheeler/Bloom, who assume that you can put on a quality product five days a week for one hour withy a ten dollar budget.

The only way CBS will save it's own daypart is by killing off both dying PGP shows and replacing them both with first-run programming. The could both be talk shows, one could be a reality show(i.e. Big Brother: Daytime), but in my dream world, one would be an L.A. soap(either DAYS or evcen better, something new) and the other could be a network talk show, either with the Chenbot or Russ Mitchell. I think Bloom should have suggested this ages ago. If ATWT and GL are canceled and the time is given to the affiliates, with two soaps on the lineup(two very self-sufficient soaps, as evident in Bloom's interviews), her position as daytime chief is expendible.

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I think when all is said and done and one looks back on soap history, one will be able to see NBC actually started shooting itself in the foot twenty years ago with SB's cancellation. DEFINITELY ten years ago with AW's cancellation. NBC has been well on its way for years. The industry has been dying, but they didn't do themselves any favors over the years.


I agree in terms of SB's cancelation: NBC coasted on the idea that they only needed two soaps for years before NBC's BEACH came along(a show they should have slashed to death, budget-wise, before getting rid of it altogether). Even to this day, I cannot fault NBC for axing AW in favor of Reilly's PASSIONS. It was a new soap, it was created by the man who saved DAYS and NBC Daytime in the 90's. But you don't give the kid addicted to candy the keys to the sugar shoppe, you know? There should have been checks and balances and a level of accountability where he was concerned.

Susan Lee thought you could build a network around a sinking ship. She was sadly mistaken.
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King
Nov 26 2008, 02:34 PM
DAYS is just the first show to experience the symptoms, but they'll all do it eventually.

ABC is next.

CBS after that, but still a few years off.

I think when all is said and done and one looks back on soap history, one will be able to see NBC actually started shooting itself in the foot twenty years ago with SB's cancellation. DEFINITELY ten years ago with AW's cancellation. NBC has been well on its way for years. The industry has been dying, but they didn't do themselves any favors over the years.
I agree.

And I do think if Days' ratings stay the same or improve even slightly with them gone, you just watch the other shows dump vets. They all (outside of Y&R) like to follow each other anyway and if they can save money, all the more reason. I think it's easy to blame poor decisions and the execs but this all would've happened eventually anyway. Between the economy and other factors, I think it was inevitable. Maybe it wouldn't have happened this quickly but this is also happening in primetime too. Ratings are down and with the economy cuts are coming left and right.

I also agree that NBC's downfall began by canceling SB and AW. I think one could go but they never even attempted to save SB. They could've tried but they just let it go. Hell, they tried saving Passions for years.

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