jane1978

Dec 26 2008, 04:21 PM

SpriteEyes

Dec 26 2008, 01:42 PM

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"Stephanie's ready to be in love again," says Shelley Hennig (Stephanie). Steph wants to experience something with a new guy.

:lol: How long as she and Max been apart?

Guess she wasn't in love to begin with and so much for taking this slow.

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Maybe this is why, to me, Philip and Stephanie don't feel forced because JKJ and Shelley were already good friends, dating, or something. They've apparently had some type of friend or dating relationship for months.

I don't care about offscreen, I haven't seen it onscreen. These two have known each other for a couple of weeks, unlike Shawn and Mimi who we saw since high school.

For me, they make as much sense as Lucas and Chloe. Insta-Romance. :shrug:

I don´t think they are insta couple. For me insta couple is someone who is suddenly written as in love while we´ve never seen something develop before.

But Phillip/Steph has been flirting and cyrcling around each other for months and atleast from the famous drunken Steph scene you could clearly see the sparks flying between them. So when he asked her to work for him and they eventually ended in the vault and almost kissed it was natural, not something the writers suddenly made up. The writing was following the chemistry, not otherwise.

For me, the same thing happened with the elevator scene. I´d seen EJ/Nicol falling with each other before they made love there, so no surprise it happened, it was just a matter of time. On the other side, Chloe/Lucas were like WTF are they suddenly scre*ing each other? it was totally forced, totally out of the blue, just something the writers needed for the story but not prepared at all.

Luckilly, I think Steph/Phillip are EJ/Nicol, not Lucas/Chloe.

esp13

Dec 26 2008, 05:56 PM

Well, "months" is a relative thing with Days when we have days that last for weeks sometimes. But, Stephanie did go to the Kiriakis mansion on Halloween to talk to Philip (just a day or so after the break-up with Max), so it has been a couple of months since Stax broke up and they put Stephanie in Philip's orbit. The almost kiss in the vault was mid-December, so that's about a month and a half of establishing a friendship between the two (the visit to the mansion, drunk Stephanie, they convo at the gym, Philip offering the internship, the Nick stuff) before it moved to a different level.

I'll be the first to admit that's a far cry from the old days when it was 6 months before a couple shared their first kiss. But, in terms of how things work these days, it's a fair amount of pre-romance set-up. I'd like it to be longer and I would have loved if they had allowed the relationship to grow more gradually, but I've given up hoping for that stuff anymore. It's far from perfect, but I'll take at least some minimal set-up over the truly "insta-love" of Lucas and Chloe or Chloe and Daniel, or Kate and Daniel, or Chelsea and Daniel, etc., etc.

esp13

Dec 26 2008, 06:11 PM

Well, thus far, she appears to be able to go to the post office and pick up a package without needing Philip's support. I liked Morgan and Philip and Morgan right up until they made Morgan a simpering wimp who totally believed Philip was a wonderful guy despite the fact that her father (who she believed could do no wrong) warned her multiple times to stay away from him.

Thus far (and Lord knows it could change tomorrow), I like that Stephanie has been more confident lately and most of her interaction with Philip has been fun and banter-y. I really wish they would develop Stephanie's character further, but I hold no real hopes for that since the show doesn't seem to have any interest in developing anybody's character.

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Outside of her cute dimples and perky boobs, what exactly makes her different from Morgan?

esp13

Dec 26 2008, 06:11 PM

Well, thus far, she appears to be able to go to the post office and pick up a package without needing Philip's support. I liked Morgan and Philip and Morgan right up until they made Morgan a simpering wimp who totally believed Philip was a wonderful guy despite the fact that her father (who she believed could do no wrong) warned her multiple times to stay away from him.

Thus far (and Lord knows it could change tomorrow), I like that Stephanie has been more confident lately and most of her interaction with Philip has been fun and banter-y. I really wish they would develop Stephanie's character further, but I hold no real hopes for that since the show doesn't seem to have any interest in developing anybody's character.

Sariah

Dec 26 2008, 06:50 PM

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Outside of her cute dimples and perky boobs, what exactly makes her different from Morgan?

Nothing. Plus, I'm pretty sure Morgan had those extra assets too. ;)

Not even remotely interested in Philip and Stephanie (I've disliked her since the SH recast). More tuning out for me, I guess.

Paxton

Dec 26 2008, 07:20 PM

I like Stephanie fine. I couldn't stand Shayna Rose but I've liked Stephanie (or the potential of Stephanie, at least) since the recast. My problem is the buildup, even as delineated in this thread, is virtually non-existent. I still don't see why Philip likes Stephanie or vice versa other than that they're both hot. Now, if the actors had smoking hot chemistry together in my eyes, I could forgive that, but IMO, they simply don't. At best they're sort of cute together.

Plus, it just doesn't matter. This story is apparently all about Melanie, not Philip and Stephanie. Everything has been about Melanie for months now and I see no hope of that changing. I don't think the writers are bothering to give Stephanie a personality of her own because Carrie 2.0 is good enough for them. Everything that's happened between Philip and Stephanie from the vault on has apparently been staged solely for Melanie's benefit. I hate Melanie and she is very close to being the worst possible love interest I can imagine for Philip (I'll keep the others to myself so as not to give Dena ideas), so as long as she continues to be anywhere near Philip I'm barely watching Philip. I'm not boycotting Philip/Stephanie, I'm boycotting Philip/Melanie--I don't even see that there is really IS a Philip/Stephanie. They don't exist for any reason independent of Melanie and there isn't enough chemistry there for me to care.

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Again, though, is it Stephanie or the fact that they're pairing her with Philip instead of Chloe?

Paxton

Dec 26 2008, 07:20 PM

I like Stephanie fine. I couldn't stand Shayna Rose but I've liked Stephanie (or the potential of Stephanie, at least) since the recast. My problem is the buildup, even as delineated in this thread, is virtually non-existent. I still don't see why Philip likes Stephanie or vice versa other than that they're both hot. Now, if the actors had smoking hot chemistry together in my eyes, I could forgive that, but IMO, they simply don't. At best they're sort of cute together.

Plus, it just doesn't matter. This story is apparently all about Melanie, not Philip and Stephanie. Everything has been about Melanie for months now and I see no hope of that changing. I don't think the writers are bothering to give Stephanie a personality of her own because Carrie 2.0 is good enough for them. Everything that's happened between Philip and Stephanie from the vault on has apparently been staged solely for Melanie's benefit. I hate Melanie and she is very close to being the worst possible love interest I can imagine for Philip (I'll keep the others to myself so as not to give Dena ideas), so as long as she continues to be anywhere near Philip I'm barely watching Philip. I'm not boycotting Philip/Stephanie, I'm boycotting Philip/Melanie--I don't even see that there is really IS a Philip/Stephanie. They don't exist for any reason independent of Melanie and there isn't enough chemistry there for me to care.