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| SOW: Stephanie and Philip Smooch; Jan 6 issue, article summary | |
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| Topic Started: Dec 24 2008, 11:21 AM (2,128 Views) | |
| jane1978 | Dec 28 2008, 09:25 AM Post #31 |
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I agree, except Sami was obsessed with Austin. Sheīd hopelessly fell in love with him months before she discovered he is already in love with Carrie and she wanted him badly. So far I didnīt see any signs Melanie is in love with Phillip or is dreaming about happily ever after with him. Her main motivation seems to be her hate for Stephanie. Stephanie is popular, respected and loved, thatīs everything what Mel would like to be too, but the ways she chooses are completely wrong. She envies Steph and she wants to teach her a lesson and there is no better way than to separate and try to seduce her boyfriend, but IMO she is not interested in Phillip beyond the way she is interest in any good looking man with money. Edited by jane1978, Dec 28 2008, 09:26 AM.
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| ladyofthelake | Dec 28 2008, 09:47 AM Post #32 |
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And, too, she and Stephanie were at odds when Stephanie had her number back in Paris. All Max could see was he found his sister, and Stephanie had her figured out right away. Melanie knew it, too. So, I just think it's more of a "Melanie is trying to get everything Stephanie has and ruin her life" type of thing. And, it seems now she's going to be making a play for Brady. That's how Melanie survived in Paris, after all. She'd get guys to fall in love with her and buy things for her. (Remember George)? More and more, I think I might start to enjoy this storyline. I might even enjoy Stephanie and Philip! They have the Shelley/JKJ friendship going for them, and it seems these two actors are very comfortable with each other. And again, this wasn't a big surprise. This is something that has been hinted at for a while, and, at least at Emmy time, something the actors apparently wanted. Now, yes, I know that isn't always a good thing (Allison Sweeney, anyone?) but for me right now, it's working, and for some others. Are they going to be a raging success? Probably not. They're going to be one of those middlin' couples....probably split down the middle in terms of popularity, but not causing any massive mob scenes. Edited by ladyofthelake, Dec 28 2008, 09:48 AM.
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| SpriteEyes | Dec 28 2008, 11:35 AM Post #33 |
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I don't think she was making a play for Brady. I think she just flirts and doesn't even realize she does it. It's how she managed to get by while on her own in Paris. I also think she wanted to get Phil's attention. Do I think she's in love with Phil? No. But I do think she's interested, not obsessed. But definitly crushing. And compared to some of the things the previous younger generations have done, Melanie's don't come close and yet she's taking a great amount of heat. It's not her fault Nick went bonkers. She hasn't broken up any marriages or accidently caused anyone to die. As much as Stephanie wants to blame Melanie for her and Max's breaking up, it's not Melanie's fault. |
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| phloeishot | Dec 28 2008, 02:03 PM Post #34 |
 
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I think they should pair Melanie off with Victor. He likes them young and she likes money. |
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| ladyofthelake | Dec 28 2008, 02:13 PM Post #35 |
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OK, I need the brain bleach now. |
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| Paxton | Dec 28 2008, 03:46 PM Post #36 |
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I agree with this. I don't see her interest in Philip as being entirely or even primarily motivated by hatred for Stephanie, though that's probably part of it. Philip and Stephanie weren't yet a twinkle in the writers' eyes when Melanie first met him and was raving to Max about how hot Philip was. I think Melanie's a pathetic third-rate excuse for an actual maneater, but she does apparently fancy herself capable of landing a rich, powerful man even though we have no evidence she actually was able to manipulate/attract grown men--only boys. Particularly not corporate tycoon disabled Marine men, who theoretically ought to be able to fend off advances from teenage wannabe vixens (or is she an abuse victim today? Which version are the writers going with? I guess they don't need her to be an abuse victim now that Trent's dead and Philip gave her the job at Titan). I've been complaining that this is Sami/Austin/Carrie version 2.0 for quite some time now, and that's exactly why I hate it. Well, one of the reasons. But though Sami was the bad-seed interloper to Carrie/Austin, she did get Austin from time to time. The fact that she didn't get him for long or permanently is irrelevant to me, because Philip is (was) my favorite character and Melanie is my most hated. I could learn to tolerate her if they kept her away from Philip and reduced her airtime, but as that seems unlikely, I'm sure I'll eventually end up FF'ing Philip, because I won't watch Phelony, period. I already wish JKJ hadn't re-signed precisely because of this storylline. I did like Melanie with Nick. Those two actors had chemistry together. So why that pairing got destroyed for a totally unnecessary and unwanted S/A/C is completely mysterious to me. |
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| esp13 | Dec 28 2008, 09:22 PM Post #37 |
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While I don't think we're supposed to see Melanie's interest as driven by her hatred/jealousy of Stephanie, that's exactly how it comes across to me. I know that there was the whole attempted seduction scene before Stephanie and Max ever broke up, but it seems like since that time almost everything has been driven by Melanie's desire to mess with Stephanie's life. It seems like if she were more interested in Philip than messing with Stephanie, she'd be trying to get Max and Stephanie back together, not pushing Chelsea and Max together. While I hated the Sami/Austin/Carrie storyline, the one thing that made Sami somewhat sympathetic was that I could see why she wanted Austin so badly -- there was a lonely, insecure little girl inside that just wanted somebody to love her best. In this current version, I can't find anything sympathetic about Melanie because she comes across as simply a teenage golddigger looking for a guy with money. I know we're supposed to feel sorry for her because of Trent, but that storyline was so out of nowhere and completely consistent with everything about the character that I can't really buy it. Who knew they could actually make the S/A/C triangle even worse than it was the first time around? |
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| Mikegoldy | Dec 28 2008, 09:23 PM Post #38 |
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Now, this is not just because I like them together, but I have a feeling that the Philip and Stephanie relationship is going to continue to gain popularity. It is already happening around the net. IF written well, the story can also include Victor, Steve, and Kayla, and if MBE and SN are willing to work for newbie salaries, maybe they will get to stay with the show :D |
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| Mikegoldy | Dec 28 2008, 09:25 PM Post #39 |
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See, I feel bad for poor Melanie, because she just can't seem to understand why people don't like her. She wants to have friends, but doesn't seem to realize that her scheming ways, are getting in the way |
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| esp13 | Dec 28 2008, 09:41 PM Post #40 |
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^^I think Melanie knows exactly why people don't like her and just doesn't care. I think she's confused as to why her ownership of Nick's project hasn't made her Philip's favorite person, but she thinks that's Stephanie's fault, I'm sure. I think Melanie could have been made sympathetic with better writing and more nuanced acting, but it hasn't happened for me so far. And, while I don't care for Melanie, I think Molly Burnett is a decent actress. I just don't think she's done very well conveying any underlying vulnerability in Melanie. The few times I think she's tried to convey that, it's come across as very fake like she's manipulating whoever she's talking too. Maybe that's now how it's intended to come across, but that's how I've seen it. Which, in turn, makes Melanie even less sympathetic. |
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| Paxton | Dec 28 2008, 09:54 PM Post #41 |
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It's irrelevant to me whether Melanie actually wants Philip because she thinks he's the right man for her or whether she wants him because she wants to screw Stephanie over. Like I said, I think there are elements of both. What matters to me is that I hate her with Philip under any circumstances, for any reason, and therefore since she's chasing him I have to worry about when or if she's going to catch him even temporarily. And I assume she will somehow eventually manipulate him into bed or a romantic situation because for some reason the writers seem to think he's too dumb to figure out what she's doing. Once that's done, the character of Philip is ruined for me. Sex with an 18-year-old (whose character I also can't stand)--there's no going back for me. Others will differ, but that's my line in the sand.
Edited by Paxton, Dec 28 2008, 09:55 PM.
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| esp13 | Dec 28 2008, 10:01 PM Post #42 |
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Well, it's irrelevant to me as well because I don't want Philip anywhere near Melanie even if they ditch the idea of Philip and Stephanie tomorrow. But, it terms of good soap storytelling, I think it's an important element that has, of course, been totally ignored by the writing staff. |
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| ladyofthelake | Dec 28 2008, 11:06 PM Post #43 |
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That's the ticket! Also, they portrayed Sami as being insecure as far as her position and "favored status" went in the family. There was that sibling rivalry factor with she and Carrie that also factored into their rivalry and made it much more interesting. Although, I am seeing facets of Melanie's deep insecurities, especially around Christmas when it seemed everyone was happy with their families and she had no one but Max, who seemed to begrudgingly willing to let her join in the festivities, worried about having to clamp her mouth shut if necessary. I think Molly is learning the nuances of showing inner vulnerability. She doesn't have it down pat yet. Rather, she keeps the sarcasm full to the forefront. She needs to master the wistful glance look. If they could develop that in her a little more, they might be able to pull this off after all. Edited to say: esp, I should have quoted your other post! IT's more in line of what I was thinking at the end of mine. :D Edited by ladyofthelake, Dec 28 2008, 11:08 PM.
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| esp13 | Dec 29 2008, 10:36 AM Post #44 |
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^^I've seen Molly throw moments of vulnerability in, but the problem is that they've been exactly the same expressions and tones and mannerisms as when she's tried to make a play for sympathy. That's where she needs to work on the nuances. Because when I see a character act sad and vulnerable but know (based on other scenes) that's it's a big act and blatant play for sympathy and then see that same character act exactly the same way when it's supposed to be a "real" moment of vulnerability, it doesn't work so well. |
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| ladyofthelake | Dec 29 2008, 11:53 AM Post #45 |
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She needs tutoring from Arianne Zucker or old school Allison Sweeney. Allison used to be so good with those...... |
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